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Monday November 03 00:52:18 2003
Nice scene on Charmed
Never thought I'd see Rose McGowan so nicely chained (she was cuffed at ankles and wrists with iron manacles, with a chain connecting her ankles to her wrists, long enough to permit her to walk upright, but not long enough to raise her wrists above waist level). The scene was brief but there was a nice lingering shot of her chains -- tasty, tasty. Thanks for the alert on this one, it was very nice.
Pat Powers
Monday November 03 00:59:07 2003
Re: Latin Lover caps
Someone had expressed an interest in "Latin Lover" -- well there's a review with caps up now in the Banter section of my site. It has extensive blindfold scenes and a bit of bondage as well. Enjoy, and thanks, JayL, for sending down the tape.
Pat Powers
http://www.jollyroper.com
Monday November 03 01:56:50 2003
Alias
Preview for next week's "Alias" shows Melissa George getting kidnapped. It appears her hands are being tied or cuffed behind her back as the grab scene was previewed. Maybe this show will finally deliver something.
Monday November 03 07:00:51 2003
Re: Tarzan - don't waste your tape
Van wrote:

> chubby wrote:
>
> > Nothing at all tonight for either damsel. The hot
> blonde
> > sister gets abducted at gunpoint at the :45 minute
> mark
> > but her only restraint is her seatbelt.
>
> {Sigh} Would that the *villain* had wasted some tape.
> {Sigh}
> http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/

After the first episode, I speculated that the good-looking blonde younger sister had the potential to be an excellent source of bondage, as she would be menaced by villains. It appears that my speculation was only partially correct; she was indeed menaced by the villain in the latest episode, but was in no way restrained.
This show has been an utter disappointment. It seems to be more of a soap opera rather than a genuine action series. Romance and the sexual tension between the male and female leads seem to comprise a larger component of the plots than action and imperiled damsels.

Hadji
Monday November 03 07:06:18 2003
Re: missed she spies
Paul wrote:

> > > That means the damsel-in-distress tie ups we
> saw
> > just about every other week last year have pretty
> much
> > gone bye-bye.
>
> We had a scene just last week. It did, however, uphold
> their previous standard of lameness.

Next week's episode has the potential for a bondage scene. The preview showed that it is about Natasha Henstridge battling her evil double. The double may overpower Henstridge and leave her bound and gagged somewhere while she assumes her identity.
Hadji
Monday November 03 08:05:23 2003
question
hey all, i recently saw the movie "feardotcom" and it was won of the first movies ive seen with a leather gag in it. This is fairly rare, i think the only other movie i saw it in was hellrasier 3 that had one. Has anyone on here seen any other movies where some sort of leather gag is used?

Cheers
spino
Monday November 03 09:51:31 2003
Re: question
> Has anyone on here seen any other movies where some sort
> of leather gag is used?

I was going to recommend the database, but it pulled up only five hits for "leather gag" and I know a lot mroe than that have been seen. So I tried one the database didn't have -- Whoops Apocalypse -- where the gag was described as a "black over the mouth gag." Which it was, but it was also leather.

Split Second had a leather gag, part of a leather hood that covered the entire lower half of the woman's face.

Tor the Mighty Hunter had a gag made of leather and wood.

I'm sure there's quite a few others that you could cull out from the database by doing a search for just "leather" but that would be tedious as there are a LOT of entries for women bound with leather cuffs and leather straps.
Pat Powers
Monday November 03 09:57:44 2003
Leather Gags
spino wrote:

> i recently saw the movie "feardotcom"
and it was won of the first movies ive seen with a leather gag in it. This is fairly rare, i think the only other movie i saw it in was hellrasier 3 that had one.

Has anyone on here seen any other movies where some sort of leather gag is used?
------
Excluding mainstream Bit-gags and Ballgags (where generally the leather component is the strap itself):

The Abductors (1972)
The Surrogate (1984)
The Barbarians (1987)
Walker, Texas Ranger ("The Return of LaRue")
Warrior Queen (2003).
Kinky-napper
Monday November 03 10:09:15 2003
1-800-Missing ("Deliverance from Evil")
Overlooker wrote:

> > .....Anyone have a good handle on the time for the climactic scene?
> >
> ...It pops up about 7 or 8 minutes before the end. You can see it coming because Gloria Ruben's character busts
through the door of a cabin where the damsel is being held. And IMHO the full-treatment scene is pretty good,
though about 2 blinks in length. The damsel does spend a bit of time floundering around on the floor still tied to her chair after being ungagged.
------
Reminder that if you caught the episode, it can be added to the Database. :-)
Kinky-napper
Monday November 03 10:52:46 2003
Leather gag
Demi Moore in Scarlet Letter
Donna D'erico in Candyman 3
Monday November 03 11:21:31 2003
Re: Leather gag
Francesca Annis in "Dune".

Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Monday November 03 11:30:23 2003
MUTANT X
Episode 306 There is a cap of a gagged actress at the official site.Also what's happening with that WIP episode 305 last week ?
togolane
Monday November 03 11:43:27 2003
Re: MUTANT X
> Episode 306 There is a cap of a gagged actress at the
> official site.

Doesn't look like one of the hotties

For fellow Canuckers, this week's episode of the Great Detective (Bravo 12/6:30 PM) should have the B&G scene. As I recall, the DinD says she was gagged with burlap (not quite leather).
http://www.mutantx.net/images/episodic/306/pics_306_09.jpg
Canuck
Monday November 03 12:42:03 2003
Re: TITLE?
Todd 3-D wrote:

> Well, ~I~ went to LisaThornhill.com and your site and
> managed to match the caps up right. Unknown #1 is indeed
> 18 Wheels of Justice Hot Cars, Fast Women.

Got that confirmed now (had to convert my Mac to a virtual PC to get the links to work, luckily it is rare I have to go through that humiliation), but you are right. I added an entry.

Thanx.
Per
Monday November 03 12:49:18 2003
Re: missed she spies
Hadji wrote:

> Next week's episode has the potential for a bondage
> scene. The preview showed that it is about Natasha
> Henstridge battling her evil double. The double may
> overpower Henstridge and leave her bound and gagged
> somewhere while she assumes her identity.

Always a must-record with that storyline. The soaps usually cash in on that with a B&G damsel. Kim Zimmer and Kristian Alfonso both were B&G in the past few years by their doubles. On regular TV, Justina Vail on "Seven Days" and Pam Anderson in "VIP" both left B&G by the double. Some disappointments, too. I think Melissa Joan Hart was doubled on "Sabrina" at some point but didn't find any trouble.

Monday November 03 12:55:23 2003
Gagged with her own headband
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Of course there's the famous scene from Mother Lode where Kim Basinger (was there EVER a sexier mouth?) is cleave gagged with her own headband/bandana.
-----
On Simon & Simon ("Just Because I'm Paranoid..."), Jenilee Harrison was cleave gagged with her own headband/sweatband when she was abducted while running a marathon.
Kinky-napper
Monday November 03 13:24:58 2003
"Double" Gaggings
> > Next week's episode has the potential for a bondage scene. The preview showed that it is about Natasha Henstridge battling her evil double. The double may
overpower Henstridge and leave her bound and gagged somewhere while she assumes her identity.
> > >
> Always a must-record with that storyline. The soaps usually cash in on that with a B&G damsel. Kim Zimmer and Kristian Alfonso both were B&G in the past few years by their doubles. On regular TV, Justina Vail on "Seven Days" and Pam Anderson in "VIP" both left B&G by the double.
-----
And in the TV-movie genre, fans finally received a b&g scene for Yasmine Bleeth in "The Lake" (1998). Too bad she didn't gag-talk the Ginger Grant "You'll never get away with this" line from Gilligan's Island.

And in its one season, the evil twin brother was ALWAYS b&g'ing attractive guest stars on the TV series "Two" to set up his "good" twin. Hmm, next time I'm suspected of kidnapping a beautiful Hollywood actress, I'll have to remember that "Evil twin" alibi...
Kinky-napper
Monday November 03 15:14:47 2003
Evil Twin-a-GoGo!
...not to mention the Liberty Meadows story thread of Evil Brandy from a parallel universe popping through to "our" universe (the one with the talking cartoon animals) & B&G'ing Good Brandy (meaning "our" Brandy.)

As Frank "Monkey Boy" Cho himself said: Brandy's not Bette Page. She's *BETTER*!!! ;-) (I would pay *BIG MONEY* to see a Frank Cho graphic novel of Brandy as Dejah Thoris, Princess of Mars, captive of the Tharks; *&/or* as Cavegirl Brandy, captive of the Ooga Booga Tribe; *&/or* as Brandy *AS* Bette Page!!!) {Sigh}
http://www.libertymeadows.com/images/Left1.GIF
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Monday November 03 15:48:15 2003
Re: Evil Twin-a-GoGo!
Van wrote:

> As Frank "Monkey Boy" Cho himself said:
> Brandy's not Bette Page. She's *BETTER*!!! ;-)

Uh... just to be clear... it's *VAN's* opinion that Brandy's *BETTER* than Bette Page. (I don't want to put words in Maestro Monkey Boy's mouth.) :-)

The point being: Brandy needs to get tied up & gagged! ...a lot!!!
http://www.cs.cuc.edu/~scottrel/brandy.gif
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Monday November 03 16:18:39 2003
Re: Evil Twin-a-GoGo!
Van wrote:

> Van wrote:
>
> > As Frank "Monkey Boy" Cho himself said:
> > Brandy's not Bette Page. She's *BETTER*!!!

I saved the pics from that strip when it was running. Now that you're waxing nostalgic about this scene, do you want the strips?
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Monday November 03 16:43:38 2003
Re: Evil Twin-a-GoGo!
Jazz411 wrote:

>
> I saved the pics from that strip when it was running. Now
> that you're waxing nostalgic about this scene, do you
> want the strips?

I've already got 'em. Thanks! (It *is* the thought that counts.) :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Monday November 03 17:02:52 2003
Re: question
Pat Powers wrote:

> > Has anyone on here seen any other movies where some
> sort
> > of leather gag is used?
>
>
Lana Wood OTM onscreen with a sheet of soft leather in "Grayeagle."
Phimophilus
Monday November 03 17:12:24 2003
Wot Van wrote...
Yep. Agreed. I'd love to see Cho do a book or series with Brandy or a Betty Paige lookalike in distressful situations.

The fella can draw damn delectable sheilas.
C
Monday November 03 18:28:58 2003
Re: Evil Twin-a-GoGo!
Drew Barrymore gave her double a nice handgag in Doppelganger.
Monday November 03 18:37:24 2003
Bondage re 2002's Masterpiece Theatre "Hound of the Baskervilles"
> Unfortunately, the only bondage in last years "HOTB" was the noose around the good lady's neck that choked her to death.
> >
> Yeah, it's not in Sir Arthur's original story. His version has her beaten and whipped by her crazed brother before he binds and gags her to a post with torn bedsheets.
-----
As Van has noted in the past, we can only mumble the mantra "It's not about the bondage"...

"Masterpiece Theatre" -- what a misnomer. Apparently the producers thought, "While everyone thinks 'Hound' is Doyle's masterwork, it can be 'punched up' when we do our version. Let's throw in a seance scene at Baskersville Hall, and a gala Christmas Eve party there for good measure. And let's change the climactic ending with a shootout and Holmes falling into quicksand."

Sheesh! Compared to departures from the novel like that, one hardly noticed Sherlock Holmes not wearing a deerstalker hat, let alone Beryl Stapleton not b&g'd nor surviving.

I miss the Jeremy Brett version...
Kinky-napper
Monday November 03 19:14:48 2003
Re: Evil Twin-a-GoGo!
>(I
> would pay *BIG MONEY* to see a Frank Cho graphic novel of
> Brandy as Dejah Thoris, Princess of Mars, captive of the
> Tharks;

It is a damn shame that his "Princess of Mars" illustrations go for the cheesecake, not the D-i-D aspects (though I suppose if he did the entire novel...).

He's supposedly got a "Sheena" miniseries coming from Marvel at some point, but the one preview they've shown so far just looks like a swipe from his earlier "Cavewoman" series-- leapord skins and dinosaurs, but no restraint in sight.

And, of course, with the Bettie Page reference, it's clear that he's AWARE of the possibilities... just not his thing, I guess.
Jeb
Monday November 03 19:16:34 2003
Re: Evil Twin-a-GoGo!

>
> He's supposedly got a "Sheena" miniseries
> coming from Marvel at some point,

Duh. Of course, that should be "Shanna", not "Sheena". Like it matters.
Jeb
Monday November 03 19:17:28 2003
Re: "Double" Gaggings
Kinky-napper wrote:

> On regular TV, Justina Vail on
> "Seven Days" and Pam Anderson in
> "VIP" both left B&G by the double.

Pam also was "doubled up" in Snapdragon. And this probably doesn't count, but she played two characters in Baywatch one time -- her own, and a Charlie's Angel type that was bound (but not gagged) by a weird Elvis-style bad guy. Bodes well for Stripperella.

Teri Hatcher, of course, went through this, but like Sabrina the witch, all too often these opportunities are missed. Barbara Eden on Jeannie. Samantha the witch, if you count cousin Serena as an evil twin. The girls on V.R. Troopers and Power Rangers Ninja Storm both battled, but didn't bind, their twins. And oh yeah, there was this Lost in Space episode where almost the whole family was captured by evil counterparts, but they were just held in cryo stasis tubes or whatever.

Anyone remember Superboy? Evil Stacy Haiduk had her twin dazed and up against a pole in a basement somewhere, but didn't bother to tie her to it! Jessica Alba exchanged restraints with a twin, but I don't think she was gagged either time.
Not Brian
Monday November 03 20:22:21 2003
Re: Leather Gags
> Has anyone on here seen any other movies where some sort
> of leather gag is used?

> The Abductors (1972)
> The Surrogate (1984)
> The Barbarians (1987)
> Walker, Texas Ranger ("The Return of LaRue")
> Warrior Queen (2003).

Let's not forget the recent scene with Eliza Dushku in "Wrong Turn" where she was cleave gagged with her own (I assume) belt. The belt was made of leather so I guess this would qualify as a "leather gag".
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Monday November 03 20:30:36 2003
Re: "Double" Gaggings
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Lynda Evans was tied & gagged by George Hamilton on "Dynasty", wasn't there a look-a-like Krystle double involved in this plotline?

Also, Sherilyn Fenn was tied & gagged on an "Outer Limits" episode by her evil double.
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Monday November 03 21:00:09 2003
Current trends
Year end is soon; been thinking about current trends. Not so much statistically but rather impressionistically. Movies lately seem ok; Joy Ride, The Transporter, Spun, Wrong Turn and others; even TV seems ok, the soaps are pretty good; series television better than nothing. I-800 Missing, She Spies, Jake 2.0, almost Smallville; many of the Law and Order variety seem ok. But there are trends I feel, and see, that put a cap on some of the enjoyment; and to a degree, hope, and I'm not sure why... it's just a feeling.

Too many scenes are way too short (I bet the on screen average is under 5 seconds); too many use the same gray duct tape. Way too many are not sexy, or playful or interesting in any sense; they just lay there, or worse if you blink. One season of The Avengers had more interesting (and lengthy) bondage than all shows in the entire last year put together (or so it seems to me).

So, I guess I'm feeling quality and length is way down and doesn't seem to be improving; I mean, do you really think they're going to stop or even slow the use of gray duct tape... ever? Damn, whatever happened to white over the mouth and tight tops with a little struggling? Don't get me wrong, I don't want the good old days, I just want longer modern scenes (and less gray tape).

Sometimes, when I see caps from foreign scenes, like "You Have My Family's Trust", it seems we in the US are missing a lot. Of course, I can't prove this, it's just a feeling.

Sorry, don't mean to get anyone down, maybe some of you will tell me it's all in my head, and that will make me feel a little better... I hope so anyway.
Monday November 03 21:00:41 2003
Re: "Double" Gaggings


> Kinky-napper wrote:
>
> and Pam Anderson in
> > "VIP" both left B&G by the double.
>
Pam also got it from her evil twin in Snapdragon
Mark C
Monday November 03 21:16:14 2003
Speciall all-female Fear Factor tonight
Unlikely, but we can always hope for something.
Malasfan
Monday November 03 21:44:17 2003
Re: Current trends
> Too many scenes are way too short (I bet the on screen
> average is under 5 seconds); too many use the same gray
> duct tape. Way too many are not sexy, or playful or
> interesting in any sense; they just lay there,

I have no problem with a short scene as long as it has one good camera angle or grey duct tape as long as it is lusterous and you can see an impression of her lips, but I hate women who just lay there and whine. Would it kill an American woman to struggle against her ropes & moan a little?

However, there a good source of energized women in bondage: Spanish Soaps. They always struggle and make some noise through the gag. Plus, they sometimes smile and laugh while tied up, like in the recent Uga Uga scene. (or Ms. Diaz in "A Life Less Ordinary")
G-MaN
Monday November 03 21:46:37 2003
Re: "Double" Gaggings
There was an episode of "Arrest & Trial" that dealt with a real-life evil twin Bind & Gagging.
G-MaN
Monday November 03 23:51:16 2003
Re: question
spino wrote:

> hey all, i recently saw the movie "feardotcom"
> and it was won of the first movies ive seen with a
> leather gag in it...I think the only
> other movie i saw it in was hellrasier 3.
> Has anyone on here seen any other movies where some sort
> of leather gag is used?

Spino:

"Romance" starring Caroline Ducey featured a double-whammy: a strap-ball gag. That is, a strap-gag buckled snugly over her mouth, covering an attached (and TIGHT) red ballgag.
The Kindly One

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