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Friday November 28 00:00:30 2003
Re: Soul Survivors question
Must happen before the credits. A blond is leaving someones house and gets jumped by some guys on the sidewalk where she is gaged and her wrists are cut. Sorry you missed it cause the gag scene was the only good part about the movie. Strange thing is this scene has almost nothing to do with the rest of the movie.

Friday November 28 00:47:15 2003
Re: The Missing
> If only the rope gags had been cleaves, it would have >become an instant classic. As is, it was still pretty good.

I agree, but it makes me wonder; when was the last really good, really long scene in a movie? I know "really good" is subjective, but let me throw out a basic that seems to be popular: white cleave gag, wrists behind for more than 10 seconds, pretty girl, sexy clothes. I can't think of any, and the only one overall (meaning movies and TV) is "Parting Gifts" from Angel several years ago.

I had high hopes for The Missing, but I suppose my "interests" are far too specific; it sucks "wanting what you want".

Friday November 28 01:32:02 2003
THE MISSING
jUST sore The Missing. Must say Racel Wood looked very cute in bondage as she spent most of the film in this predicament along with several other girls (including a cute red-head). The only compaint , of course , lile you other bondage buzards out there was the quality of the gags. Would have preferred tight cleve gags on all the gals (Ron Howard should have gotten advice from his brother Clint, who makes a cameo, on this subject as he had a cutie in a tight white cleve in "Silent Night Deadly Night 4" about a decade or so ago.) Anyway, that is my one and only compaint about the bondage, as the girls where tied nicely, hands behind back and ankles tied at all times including a rope on the foreheads that somehow connected to the ropes behind thier backs. Some interesting bondage work indeed. And given the choice between a tape or detective gag, I'll take the thin rope gags seen in the movie, some excellent close-ups of the too cute Ms. Wood mphing through the rope gag. Another great thing was that the girls escaped a couple of times , only to be recaptured and placed back in the same bondage scenerio can't wait for the movie to cum to cable!
RICHIE CUNNINGHAM
Friday November 28 01:40:07 2003
Re: The Missing
>when was the last really
> good, really long scene in a movie? I know "really
> good" is subjective, but let me throw out a basic
> that seems to be popular: white cleave gag, wrists behind
> for more than 10 seconds, pretty girl, sexy clothes.

On the big screen, the most recent one I recall like that would be "The Big Hit". I prefer cleaves, too, but if you'll settle for tape, "The Transporter" was pretty lengthy, as well.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Friday November 28 02:56:07 2003
Re: Soul Survivors question
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Must happen before the credits. A blond is leaving
> someones house and gets jumped by some guys on the
> sidewalk where she is gaged and her wrists are cut. Sorry
> you missed it cause the gag scene was the only good part
> about the movie. Strange thing is this scene has almost
> nothing to do with the rest of the movie.
The scene where the girl gets jumped by the 2 guys is shown on the DVD only, and it's in the first 5 minutes of the movie. I saw Soul Survivors at the movies as well and the scene wasn't in it.

Friday November 28 05:48:20 2003
Re: THE MISSING
RICHIE CUNNINGHAM wrote:

> jUST sore The Missing. Must say Racel Wood looked very
> cute in bondage as she spent most of the film in this
> predicament along with several other girls (including a
> cute red-head). The only compaint , of course , lile you
> other bondage buzards out there was the quality of the
> gags. Would have preferred tight cleve gags on all the
> gals (Ron Howard should have gotten advice from his
> brother Clint, who makes a cameo, on this subject as he
> had a cutie in a tight white cleve in "Silent Night
> Deadly Night 4" about a decade or so ago.) Anyway,
> that is my one and only compaint about the bondage, as
> the girls where tied nicely, hands behind back and ankles
> tied at all times including a rope on the foreheads that
> somehow connected to the ropes behind thier backs. Some
> interesting bondage work indeed. And given the choice
> between a tape or detective gag, I'll take the thin rope
> gags seen in the movie, some excellent close-ups of the
> too cute Ms. Wood mphing through the rope gag. Another
> great thing was that the girls escaped a couple of times
> , only to be recaptured and placed back in the same
> bondage scenerio can't wait for the movie to cum to cable!

The aforementioned cutie who is bound and gagged in "Silent Night, Deadly Night 4" is Neith Hunter. Her cleave gag is actually a tape gag that is wrapped between her lips. I recall some contributors to this message board mentioning a fondness for such a gag and lamenting the dearth of such gags in mainstream media. Well, this is an excellent example of such a gag.
Clint Howard is really Ron Howard's brother? They look nothing alike!
Hadji
Friday November 28 09:56:39 2003
Re: THE MISSING
> The aforementioned cutie who is bound and gagged in
> "Silent Night, Deadly Night 4" is Neith Hunter.
> Her cleave gag is actually a tape gag that is wrapped
> between her lips.

Don't forget there was packing also, A very nice touch for a nice gag
Friday November 28 10:32:29 2003
Re: Soul Survivors question
> The scene where the girl gets jumped by the 2 guys is
> shown on the DVD only [SNIP]

Ah, that explains it...thanks all!
roland
Friday November 28 11:16:48 2003
Re: The Missing


I was always under the impression that a cleave gag is one that goes between the teeth. What difference does it make if the material is cloth, tape, or in this case, rope? And as far as stopping talking, no cleave gag, no matter what the material, will stop talking unless the mouth is packed.

southbound
Friday November 28 11:22:58 2003
Re: The Missing
As ineffective as a silencer a rope cleavegag may be, it makes it considerably more difficult to undo knots with the teeth.
Per
Friday November 28 11:55:39 2003
Re: The Missing
> As ineffective as a silencer a rope cleavegag may be, it
> makes it considerably more difficult to undo knots with
> the teeth.

With the ubiquitousness of duct tape, I'm almost suprised it wasn't used anachronistically in the film.
B Fife
Friday November 28 15:40:33 2003
CAPS ID
Whatever became of those caps at http://homepage.mac.com/perk99/FileSharing1.html ? Did they get identified?
togolane
Friday November 28 16:05:17 2003
Re: The Missing
>Jeb wrote: On the big screen, the most recent one I recall >like that would be "The Big Hit".

Absolutely Jeb, very pretty girl, white blouse schoolgirl outfit, thick white cloth gag and a long, fun scenario when cooking and using the bathroom (way sexier than Secretary imho).

And to RC poster, yes, SNDN4 with Neith Hunter was just about perfect and the tape wrap gag looked cloth like enough for me. White knit tank top, hands behind, good chase and probably one of the best on screen tie ups and gagging ever, imho.

Friday November 28 16:16:12 2003
Re: The Missing
B Fife wrote:

> With the ubiquitousness of duct tape, I'm almost suprised
> it wasn't used anachronistically in the film.

For that we should be Thankful!
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Friday November 28 17:05:47 2003
Re: THE MISSING
> Clint Howard is really Ron Howard's brother? They look nothing alike!

Well, they're both bald.

Clint Howard wa involved in another scene, in a horror movie I've been trying to identify. He's in the process of kidnapping this girl, has her tied hands behind and cleave gagged (*with packing* IIRC--I do remember it being tight and effective). There's an interruption and the victim runs away and hides under the bed, still tied and gagged. We can clearly see her bound hands from the rear. Anybody know what I'm talking about?
Paul
Friday November 28 17:09:24 2003
Re: THE MISSING
> Clint Howard wa involved in another scene, in a horror
> movie I've been trying to identify.
> Anybody know what I'm talking about?

Paul, that's Silent Night Deadly Night 4
Friday November 28 17:42:50 2003
Doctor Wholy Grail
Check out http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/photonovels/smugglers/three/04.shtml
for stills of Anneke Wills b&g as Polly!

The pix were photographed off the screen during transmission in 1966, and the Beeb has compiled them into a photonovel.

The lovely onscreen gagging of Ms Wills was just missed (except for a faint cross-faded frame in Part 2), but there are three or four reasonable long shots of her tied up. Note that she stays tightly OTM gagged while the putz gets to talk. Now there was a show that understood its audience...
Mad Dan
Friday November 28 17:49:25 2003
forgotten scene
Someone please ease my mind. In the late 80s I saw an unforgetable scene during a UPN series of a teenager in school girl uniform who is tape gagged and straped to some booby trap. The young damsel was abducted by a women who sent the tape of the girl to the cops. While she was giving demands she stuck her leg (complete with black stocking) into the view of the ransom video. It was a cop show and the only other thing I remember was the main cop telling the girl as he was disabling the trap how much she had grown. Any idea what show this was?
noonie
Friday November 28 17:56:23 2003
Re: CAPS ID
togolane wrote:

> Whatever became of those caps at
> http://homepage.mac.com/perk99/FileSharing1.html ? Did they get identified?

The first I put up was from American series like Renegade or Mutant X. Most of them was identified.
Last I put some up from series or movies maybe American, maybe not.
I got few answers, and most (all but 1) of them remained unidentified.
Anyway the 60 day free trial I got from Apple has expired, and (partly) due to the poor response the last time, I decided not to pay for a continued Homepage.

Togolane, you have been among the ones ID'ing most of the caps I put up, thanks a lot for that.
Thank you to all others who have participated!

Per
Friday November 28 18:24:10 2003
Re: The Missing
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>
>
> I was always under the impression that a cleave gag is
> one that goes between the teeth. What difference does it
> make if the material is cloth, tape, or in this case,
> rope? And as far as stopping talking, no cleave gag, no
> matter what the material, will stop talking unless the
> mouth is packed.
>
> southbound

A thin cleave gag, such as one consisting of rope, can be very effective if applied properly. If it is drawn very tightly at the corners of the mouth, it can force the damsel's lips so closely together that she is utterly unable to move them and thus speak.

Hadji
Friday November 28 18:33:57 2003
Re: CAPS ID
Per wrote:



Togolane, you have been among the ones ID'ing most of the
caps I put up, thanks a lot for that.
Thank you to all others who have participated!

I hate to answer a question that's already been answered which is why I checked.I think the redhead in the ancient Roman movie is Rhonda Fleming in THE QUEEN OF BABYLON. It's in the database.
togolane
Friday November 28 18:54:11 2003
Re: The Missing
> I agree, but it makes me wonder; when was the last really
> good, really long scene in a movie? I know "really
> good" is subjective, but let me throw out a basic
> that seems to be popular: white cleave gag, wrists behind
> for more than 10 seconds, pretty girl, sexy clothes. I
> can't think of any, and the only one overall (meaning
> movies and TV) is "Parting Gifts" from Angel
> several years ago.
>
Speaking of that classic Angel scene, it will be shown this weekend on sydication. That scene is definitely one of my all time favorites, they even throw in a nice quick hand gag scene with Charisma(in her prime)mmphing deliciously. Anyways, check your local listings to see if "Parting Gifts" airs in your area.


Paco The Bandit
Friday November 28 19:19:54 2003
Re: The Missing
Paco The Bandit wrote:

> Speaking of that classic Angel scene, it will be shown
> this weekend on sydication. That scene is definitely one
> of my all time favorites, they even throw in a nice quick
> hand gag scene with Charisma(in her prime)mmphing
> deliciously. Anyways, check your local listings to see
> if "Parting Gifts" airs in your area.

And as if that weren't enough, remember that CC's other classic Angel scene, "Over the Rainbow," comes around again Sunday on TNT. (Thanks to MadFish for the alert.)
Raffish
Friday November 28 19:22:17 2003
This week's update
This week: Elaine Giftos in Bonanza "The Lady And The Mark," Melissa Reeves in Days Of Our Lives, Kim Poirer in Paradise Falls "The Killer," Gayle Hunnicutt in Target, Honor Blackman in The Avengers "Intercrime," and Andrea Sawatzki in The Experiment.
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/1128.jpg
Raffish
raffish@abductor.com
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/
Friday November 28 19:25:56 2003
Re: CAPS ID
togolane wrote:

.I think the redhead in the ancient
> Roman movie is Rhonda Fleming in THE QUEEN OF BABYLON.
> It's in the database.

I think you are right. I wonder, what WAS it with redhead Rhonda and stakes?
Anyway thanks!

Per
Friday November 28 20:11:42 2003
Re: The Missing
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > If only the rope gags had been cleaves, it would
> have >become an instant classic. As is, it was still
> pretty good.
>
> I agree, but it makes me wonder; when was the last really
> good, really long scene in a movie? I know "really
> good" is subjective, but let me throw out a basic
> that seems to be popular: white cleave gag, wrists behind
> for more than 10 seconds, pretty girl, sexy clothes. I
> can't think of any, and the only one overall (meaning
> movies and TV) is "Parting Gifts" from Angel
> several years ago.

To me, the last one that fits the criteria has gotta be Bound, especially Jennifer Tilly. There wasn't much to complain about with that one. Excellent ropework and gagging, and a hot outfit. If I can find any complaint, it's that I'm into the stockings. She wore black hose throughout the movie up until that scene, dammit. But that didn't ruin it for me, of course.


Tom
Friday November 28 20:27:41 2003
Swindle
I have never posted before but I just watched a movie from Blockbuster that may interest some of you. The movie is Swindle. Three attractive young women,miniskirts and heels held hostage during robbery. Plastic ties, blindfolds, no gags. Starts at about 35 minutes and continues for rest of movie sporadically until about 70 minutes and then for the rest of the movie the most attractive(Katie Griffin ?) is featured with and without blindfold but still bound until end of movie. All hands behind.
Friday November 28 21:25:25 2003
Van's Fiction is Updated!
I woke this morning in a post-turkey tryptophan haze & forgot to post my update to *Van's Fiction*, until now. So, for your reading pleasure... Chapter 3 of "Chattel Mountain Lodge-Personnel Problem!"
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Friday November 28 21:31:08 2003
Re: forgotten scene
noonie wrote:

> It was a cop show and the only other thing I remember was
> the main cop telling the girl as he was disabling the
> trap how much she had grown. Any idea what show this was?
>

I think you're talking about POINTMAN with Jack Scalia ... from 1994 (the IMDb is, indeed, my friend).
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Friday November 28 22:07:37 2003
Unknown British Film from the 50's or 60's
While we're on the subject of vaguely remembered scenes...

I remember a B&W movie I saw on daytime TV years ago. It was a British production, late 50's or 60's, set in London, a whodunit about artists' models being murdered. Towards the end, a blonde model was tied to a stand (kneeling, hands behind her back & ropes around her body.) She was posing as a Christian martyr. The artist was a middle-aged woman (who smoked.) Someone showed up to chat, so the model was untied for a lunch break. A couple of scenes later, the model is missing! No one can find her. The artist is in the police station, offering to help. Later, she goes back to her studio (a barge on the Thames, I think), casually goes to a closet, slides open the door... & there's the model, tied to the post as she was before, & now she's *tightly* cleave-gagged. Her hair is disheveled, as if she's been struggling for hours. The artist is the murderer, of course. She grabs a knife & starts the gloating scene... & the cops rush in & arrest her. They'd figured out what was up & had talked the model into being bait. I didn't recognize any of the actors & don't know the title, any character names... *any*thing I can use to frame a search.

This ring any bells with anybody?
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/

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