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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Sunday November 30 01:47:15 2003 Re: The Missing--Rich |
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> Went to see The Missing this afternoon, >and upon reflection I can't help but >wonder if the head ropes on the captives >were not meant to be gags at all, but >rather control bridles intended to >discourage active struggling. That is a very interesting idea Rich. Since it is highly unlikely that a talk show host is going to say something like 'You really had those girls roped up pretty good Ron, was that from personal experience?'. A laughing Ron would respond 'Yeah, Andy showed me that on Aunt Bea'. I can see two plausible ways that Howard, or his team, might address the point Rich raised: 1. there is an active campaign on the net challenging the movie's historical accuracy 2. an 'offended' group protests the girls being tied like that. Either would give Howard and his team a chance to state their rationale for using it [Dr Snorkenvelt in his landmark book on the Apaches clearly documents.....]. Given how much the efforts at accuracy were stressed in that 'making of program', I would not be at all surprised if what Rich described is not a documented Apache prisoner control method. However, in light of the PC nature of today's USA society, even if it was historically accurate and published in a respected, peer reviewed, history/anthropology journal, it is not the type of 'historical accuracy' a moviemaker would brag about. Now, it would really be interesting if The Smithsonian magazine gave 'The Missing' the same coverage it did 'The Patriot, ie full color photos and a lengthy discussion on how Apaches controlled and transported female prisoners :-) |
| Jacot |
| Sunday November 30 02:13:42 2003 Anything? |
| Anything on the christina special? |
| Bowers |
| Sunday November 30 09:20:28 2003 Mini Update |
| Major John's has a minor update with a clip.
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| Major John |
| silent_night_022003@yahoo.com |
| http://www.fuzzweb.org |
| Sunday November 30 11:10:09 2003 Re: Swindle |
| anna wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > > Don't you mean $windle? Swindle is a different movie! I am not sure as I have already returned it. The one I referred to stars Tom Sizemore as an undercover cop and Sherilyn Fenn as the criminal mastermind. |
| Sunday November 30 11:59:23 2003 FUZZWEB |
| Update to FUZZWEB is complete. This time featuring: Mutant X, On Top Of Old Smoky & Knee High PI |
| FUZZ |
| fzfamily@aol.com |
| http://fuzzweb.org |
| Sunday November 30 11:59:40 2003 Re: The Missing--Rich |
| Jacot wrote:
> However, in light of the PC nature of today's USA > society, That enough of this right now. Any further political commentary will be moved to AG, regardless of other on-topic content. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday November 30 12:24:46 2003 mutant x |
| I was looking for a vidclip of the Mutant X scene (red cloth gag - now on Fuzzweb's site). Hopefully someone will send one to Raffish... looks like a decent scene |
| Rob |
| Sunday November 30 13:10:46 2003 Re: Anything? |
| Bowers wrote:
> Anything on the christina special? It's on this evening. |
| Malasfan |
| Sunday November 30 14:35:35 2003 Line of Fire |
| Saw a quick promo of "Line of Fire" from ABC and someone got tape-gagged, but it may have been a guy (with the way this TV season is going, not surprised). Leslie Hope and Leslie Bibb (back as a brunette, just like when she was a cop on "Big Easy) are the two FBI agents in this one. |
| Sunday November 30 15:49:46 2003 Lizzie McGuire DiDcaps |
| I just posted DiDcaps from Lizzie McGuire - "Lizzie Strikes Out".
Enjoy. |
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| perl |
| reckonwith69@hotmail.com |
| http://www.mte.com/perl/b/lizzie_mcguire/lizzie_strikes_out/ |
| Sunday November 30 16:10:39 2003 Re: The Missing--Rich |
| The Moderator wrote:
> Jacot wrote: > > > However, in light of the PC nature of today's USA > > society, > > That enough of this right now. Any further political > commentary will be moved to AG, regardless of other > on-topic content. > Jeeeeez, I was just speculating on what it would take to get the people behind "The Missing' to explain why they used that particular method of restraining the prisoners. |
| Jacot |
| Sunday November 30 16:24:36 2003 Dark Shadows---TOMORROW!!! |
| Okay, I guess I screwed up. Last week I went to tvguide.com's listing to see when "Dark Shadows" would next air, but I must have got my AM's & PM's mixed up. DARK SHADOWS RESUMES ITS NORMAL SCIFI CHANNEL BROADCAST SCHEDULE *TOMORROW* (Monday, December 1st)... & I remain convinced Kate Jackson's "bondage" scene is NEXT! (...the second half-hour, actually.) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Sunday November 30 16:57:50 2003 Re: The Missing--Rich |
| Jacot wrote:
> Jeeeeez, I was just speculating on what it would take to > get the people behind "The Missing' So? |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday November 30 17:32:04 2003 Paycheck |
| Did anyone hear any rumors about a possible Uma Thurman DID scene in the new John Woo movie Paycheck? |
| tripper |
| Sunday November 30 21:34:45 2003 The Missing. |
| I saw the film, and I think it was apparent the the rope gags were really more of a bridal meant to control and intimidate the captives rather then silence them.
Just from a realistic point of view, why would the captives need to be silenced since they were miles away from civilization in all the film, and if they yelled their heads off nobody could hear them? That you also had loops around the damsels' forehead indicated they were control devices rather then gags.Struglling would not so much strangle them as somehere suggested as cut into their mouths--not dangerous but painful. It's indicative of this that they were ungagged though still bound after they had been dressed in the whore outfits and were awating the purchasers..the villians did not want fresh cuts on the mouths to lessen the value of the captives. As for the films authenticity, for all the publcity on that angle their are some really questionable scenes. A few have pointed out that white slave angle is really more applicable to the 1850'and 60's when the Comanches made a regular commerce in white women. It's a lot less likely for the late 1880's. Interesting that Cate Blanchett, though not tied up in this film,--sadly, she is very attractive and is really a little too young for the role of the mother.. was tied up in a very difficult position in "Paradise Road". Wonder if she gave advice to Evan Rachel Hunter.... |
| The Knotty Professor |
| Sunday November 30 21:59:11 2003 Re: The Missing. |
| The Knotty Professor wrote:
> Interesting that Cate Blanchett, though not tied up in > this film,--sadly, she is very attractive and is really a > little too young for the role of the mother.. was tied up > in a very difficult position in "Paradise Road". Cate is 34 and Evan is 16; 18 is not an unusual age for a woman of that era (or this) to have a baby. You make some interesting points in support of my "control bridle" hypothesis. Thanks to you and Jacot for the input. |
| Rich McGill |
| Sunday November 30 22:12:01 2003 Just wondering |
| anything happen on that christina aguilera special? |
| Ted |
| Sunday November 30 22:48:52 2003 Re: Just wondering |
| Ted wrote:
> anything happen on that christina aguilera special? I missed the beginning ...supposedly this tour began with her showing a video of herself in "bondage" to a chair anyone else see the beginning?? |
| Snowcat |
| Sunday November 30 23:13:04 2003 Re: Just wondering |
| Snowcat wrote:
> Ted wrote: > > > anything happen on that christina aguilera special? > > I missed the beginning ...supposedly this tour began with > her showing a video of herself in "bondage" to > a chair anyone else see the beginning?? Nothing at all. She had a few costumes with some strappy-like things hangin from her wrists.....but nothing even close to anything that would entertain anyone here. Another hour of my life I'll never get back. |
| Sunday November 30 23:40:04 2003 Re: Head Harnesses in mainstream |
| > I have caps from that if you want one. There aren't any
> still shots in the film so they're a little blurry. yeah, that'd be great. Thanks a lot. Lemme know if you want credits or a link and I'll provide 'em. Also, a link to the article at my homepage link. There's one shot of a woman's breasts in the article, so it may not be work-safe. |
| Pat Powers |
| jollyroper@yahoo.com |
| http:www.jollyroper.com/banter/fastsofa/fastsofa.html |
| Sunday November 30 23:41:04 2003 Re: Head Harnesses in mainstream |
| CollectorX wrote:
> Pat Powers wrote: > > > Can I use that image in > > my head harness article? > > By all means; feel free. > http://gagsnroses.tripod.com/ Thanks, Collector X. Let me know if you want a credit or a link. |
| Pat Powers |
| jollyroper@yahoo.com |
| Sunday November 30 23:49:49 2003 More fun with amazon.com |
| Did a search for "bound and gagged", taking advantage of the new feature that lets you read several book pages (of your choice) from books whose contents had been scanned.
The fruits of my labor are here: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/6050/bd-booknew.jpg http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/6050/bd-booknew2.jpg http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/6050/bd-booknew3.jpg http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/6050/bd-booknew4.jpg The book in question is "The Third Eye", by Lois Duncan. In case you're wondering how it ends, I'm not exactly sure. It was rather ambiguous how Karen, the heroine, managed to attract attention to her situation. It just kinda cut away to a later event the next chapter. Anyway, check it out. |
| Jazz411 |
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