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Sunday October 05 01:37:52 2003
Re: Request
Jay L,
Same guy from NC. I changed Net providers and lost some email addresses in the process. Thanks for the help again! I owe you big time!
rICH
rchallen@discjocks.com
Sunday October 05 03:02:29 2003
Re: Demonlover
Van wrote:
> Everything I've read suggests there's a scene in which
> she becomes *aware* of the Hellfire Club, and the
> conclusion involves her becoming one of the Club's
> "employees."
>
> We should all just wait until someone actually *SEES* the
> movie.

Actually, I'm French, and I do own this DVD, which came out 2 weeks back in France. What's depicted by Van is what happens in this excellent movie (on top of the bondage in it!). The catfight is well done, plus there are a few interesting parts for us (I think the French director has visited a few sites, he he). The "making of" part is an hour long and has a VERY interesting scene... Though, I wouldn't want to spoil the movie for you guys, so I won't say more.

kinko
Sunday October 05 03:22:35 2003
Re: Terri
> What was the reason for the pictures? Was there any talk
> about being tied up in the article?

(Yeah, I'll admit to being a WWE fan). Those are I believe are from a "Wild West" photo shoot that all the Diva's did. Some posed in front of old steam-powered trains, others in general stores, etc. That's the only bondage pic that I'm aware of.

Kerhop
kerhop@oz.net
Sunday October 05 04:28:28 2003
Re: Request
rICH wrote:

> Jay L,
> Same guy from NC.

Yeah, forgot your posting name, but had associated you with North Carolina and the Caniacs, but not from Raleigh-Durham.
Recall the original one told the fellas you might be interested in. I'll post it up on the Trading Page for you.
Jay L
Sunday October 05 06:41:27 2003
Beyond Re-Animator & She Spies- Nothing of Note
Sci-Fi scored a big fat dud last night with their new flick "Beyond Re-Animator". She Spies was a wash as well. Nothing of D-i-D note anyway.

Vince Grey
vincegrey@thegreyman.net
Sunday October 05 09:24:59 2003
Update
Big update over at my site. Feel free to stop by.
http://www.thegreyman.net/files/a_greyman.jpg
Vince Grey
vincegrey@thegreyman.net
htttp://www.thegreyman.net
Sunday October 05 11:21:26 2003
Charmed
I just deleted what looks like a fake alert. I didn't see anything in last week's preview. Could somebody check the trailer at the WB site (link below)? I couldn't get it to load for me.



The Moderator
http://www.thewb.com/Shows/Episode/0,8201,||1554,00.html
Sunday October 05 11:27:26 2003
Re: Charmed
The Moderator wrote:

> Could somebody check the
> trailer at the WB site (link below)?

The trailer shows nothing that could suggest DID scene.
Dr Ruth
Sunday October 05 11:43:01 2003
Re: Charmed
Dr Ruth wrote:

> The trailer shows nothing that could suggest DID scene.

I thought not. The supposed guest star wasn't even listed
for tonight.

The Moderator
Sunday October 05 11:45:36 2003
Possible Database removals
If anyone has comments on the following message from DB Corrections speak now or we'll go ahead and remove these.


Record number: 2777
Title: Kiss Me Deadly (1955)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Maxine Cooper
Description: Tied to a chair towards the end of the movie. No gag.

Once again, a movie purported by a database entry to contain a scene has been broadcast on a channel known for showing films uncut (TCM in this case), and once again, the purported scene is nowhere to be found.

I'll leave the final decision up to the Moderator and the active editors, but my vote is for a peremptory removal of the entry this time. I really don't see any good reason for TCM to excise something as innocuous as a chair-tie of Mike Hammer's secretary in a Mickey Spillane story, especially when they left in Cloris Leachman's (implied) nude torture-by-Channelock-pliers sequence earlier in the movie (for those of you who've never seen it, don't get your hopes up-only Leachman's dangling legs are shown over the sound of her screams; the torturer walks on-camera holding the pliers afterward, and there's absolutely no bondage shown).

This has scene creep's greasy fingerprints all over it. Clearly someone saw some other movie with a chair-tie eons ago and misidentified it as this one, in the same manner that Hazel Brooks' cigarette-torture scene at the beginning of Arch of Triumph was once listed on this site's predecessor as actually being in the film Confidential Agent (some of you real oldtimers may recall how this spawned one of our early bum-steer VCR alert flaps).

No doubt this was an innocent mistake-aren't all mistakes innocent?-but with years more experience behind us, and with much more in the way of resources available to us, getting to the truth shouldn't be difficult. And while we're at it, let's clean up doubts about these other dubious ones I've previously mentioned but are still in the database:

Record number: 6799
Title: Mars Needs Women (1967)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Unknown
Description: One of the abducted ladies has her hands chained in front.

Record number: 1556
Title: Yellow Sky (1948)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Anne Baxter
Description: Tied to a tree and menaced by villian John Russell. Brief scene.

The first one was on Showtime a few weeks back, with no bondage-or anything that even looked like bondage-whatever. The second appears, at least to me, to be simply a case of wishful thinking. There's a fight scene in which Baxter is briefly shown standing against a tree with her hands behind her, but she is not tied to it.

Be there anyone here with evidence to the contrary-preferably on tape or disc so you can rerun it a few times to make sure-speak now or forever hold your peace.
Brian R
Sunday October 05 12:33:48 2003
Re: Terri



> > What was the reason for the pictures? Was there any
> talk
> > about being tied up in the article?


Nothing was mentioned about being tied up. Each diva what asked about what they like in a guy, how they should aproach them,how they should treat them on a date,ect. ect. Terri said she likes a man to take charge and be in control and referred to her self as submissive several times. I don't know if the pictures were taken with the interview or at a seperate time.

Mark C
Sunday October 05 12:35:44 2003
re: Data Base Removals
Brian R...A big enthusiastic OK from me on removal of "Kiss Me Deadly" from from the DB. Not only is there no sign of the reputed scene of interest, but even die-hard fans of Spillane & 50s pop culture & Red Scare flicks would be hard pressed to deny that it's a Truly Awful Movie!
Overlooker
Sunday October 05 13:28:59 2003
re: Data Base Removals
Overlooker wrote:

Not only is
> there no sign of the reputed scene of interest, but even
> die-hard fans of Spillane & 50s pop culture & Red
> Scare flicks would be hard pressed to deny that it's a
> Truly Awful Movie!

The point is, was there a bondage scene, or was there not a bondage scene. Whether the movie was awful or not in your opinion is irrelevant.


Per
Sunday October 05 14:29:57 2003
re: Data Base Removals [#2777]
Overlooker wrote:

> removal of
> "Kiss Me Deadly" from from the DB.
> no sign of the reputed scene

Deleted it,
thanx
Jay L
Sunday October 05 16:36:07 2003
Lost World question
They started showing the first episodes here in NYC. The preview for the next (second overall) episode seemed to imply JOD was going to be tied arms behind in some dressy gown while her cute little brunette friend (not Blakely, but a younger female character I've seen in episodes every now and then) may be tied/held down at an altar. Does anyone have any insight, because I didnt find any of this in the DB.
MAV
Sunday October 05 16:57:40 2003
House of 1000 Corpses
Yow! Just got done clipping this one, which took me a couple hours due to the wall-to-wall bondage. Despite the overly-rapid editing, putz factor, and sadistic plotting, I've gotta say it was worth the rental. Cleave-gag fans in particular *need* to check this one out.

I'll include the clip in next weekend's update. In the meantime, a few quick caps...
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/house1.jpg
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/house2.jpg
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/house3.jpg
Raffish
Sunday October 05 17:17:19 2003
Dragnet 1969 & Prince Valiant
Thordis Brandt will do her thing on
AMC early Sunday morning.
See "VCR Alerts" forum.

I believe AMC usually shows the complete version of movies,
so this will probably be the entire sequence.

Also, there were 2 damsels with their hands tied behind
their backs & some dialogue in the
Prince Valiant sunday comic strip.
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Sunday October 05 17:35:07 2003
Re: Lost World question
MAV wrote:

> They started showing the first episodes here in NYC. The
> preview for the next (second overall) episode seemed to
> imply JOD was going to be tied arms behind in some dressy
> gown while her cute little brunette friend (not Blakely,
> but a younger female character I've seen in episodes
> every now and then) may be tied/held down at an altar.
> Does anyone have any insight, because I didnt find any of
> this in the DB.

MAV,

Pardon if I wax a tad pedantic, but the way you ask a question like this is to first do your homework, like by checking the Lost World web site (http://www.lostworldtv.net/) to get the actual episode title, possibly the name of the actress in question, etc. Kudos for checking Brian's dBase first, of course. :-)

ANYhoo... if by "the first episodes" you mean Season One, the second episode is "Nectar." There's no bondage that I recall, but we *do* get to see Veronica (Jennifer O'Dell) dipped in honey!!! YUM!!! ;-)
http://www.tv-now.com/intervus/odell/odell.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/
Sunday October 05 17:52:02 2003
tunnel of gold - the big valley
Kuodos to you Raffish for putting this scene on your site i have been looking for it forever ,linda evans and jeanne cooper bound and gagged ,great scene.Along with the scene from SWAT lesson in fear ,one of my fave multiple damsel scenes ,well done buddy much appreciated.
vince black
renegadekid2003@yahoo.com
Sunday October 05 18:02:56 2003
Re: Lost World question
Van wrote:

> MAV wrote:
>
> The
> > preview for the next (second overall) episode seemed
> to
> > imply JOD was going to be tied arms behind in some
> dressy
> > gown while her cute little brunette friend (not
> Blakely,
> > but a younger female character I've seen in episodes
>
> > every now and then) may be tied/held down at an
> altar.
>
> MAV,
>
> Pardon if I wax a tad pedantic, but the way you ask a
> question like this is to first do your homework, like by
> checking the Lost World web site
> (http://www.lostworldtv.net/) to get the actual episode
> title, possibly the name of the actress in question, etc.
> Kudos for checking Brian's dBase first, of course. :-)

After checkin the website, the episode in question in "Stranded (1.22)", and it sounds like there's potential. Here's the description:

"The second part of the opening episode, this story reveals not only the prehistoric beauty, but more of the dangers of the Lost World. In part one, VERONICA, an untamed beauty raised in the jungle by her parents, has taken our group in and offered them shelter. After seeing what jewels the native girl Asi has, Marguerite secretly offers Veronica as a bride to Asi's father, leader of the local Zanga tribe. In exchange for Veronica, Marguerite will receive jewels and her group passage off the plateau. The savage Apemen, however, attack the Treehouse, taking Asi captive and injuring Veronica. As the others look for Asi, Marguerite follows through on her plan but when Veronica realizes what's happening, Marguerite's plan goes astray and she herself is in danger of not only never getting off the plateau, but not leaving the village alive. "
MAV
Sunday October 05 18:30:46 2003
Re: Lost World question
MAV wrote:

> After checkin the website, the episode in question in
> "Stranded (1.22)", and it sounds like there's
> potential.


I only *vaguely* recall this episode. Do the screen shots below jog anyone else's memory? Is this the one where Marguerite is almost sacrificed on a stone altar by the apemen?
http://www.lostworldtv.net/episode/img/122_screenshot3.jpg
http://www.lostworldtv.net/episode/img/122_screenshot4.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Sunday October 05 18:37:36 2003
thanks
Good work Raffish. How 'bout including it now in your member section for those paying constomers. please?
WMD
Sunday October 05 19:01:41 2003
Re: thanks
WMD wrote:

> Good work Raffish. How 'bout including it now in your
> member section for those paying constomers. please?

Patience, my friend. My clipping/posting work goes in cycles, which is the *only* way I manage to do as much of both as I do. By which I mean, give me a few days. I promise to give the paying folks a decent leg up on the freebie audience. Cool? Cool. ;)
Raffish
Sunday October 05 21:24:51 2003
Blutige Scheidung
...and gesundheit! Presenting yet another scene for which Jay L. shares the credit. While I might have to classify this one as minor, the capture sequence *does* feature a naked and wet soon-to-be DiD, along with a decent (if not so well lit) handgag and some reasonably interesting wall art.
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/BlutigeScheidung/BlutigeScheidung.jpg
Raffish
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/
Sunday October 05 23:54:38 2003
Tonight? Anything??
just got home & found that I messed up setting my VCR
:(
did I miss anything??
Charmed?
Tarzan? Anything?
Snowcat

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