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Thursday October 09 14:24:36 2003
Re: Cement Shoes & DID

(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Later the villain plan to throw the hero into the lake.
> Is there any similar "cement shoes" with a DID?

Cameron Diaz's scene in Head Above Water is the one classic cement scene I remember well. It was played up for silliness; Diaz's character was tied hands in front with feet in cement, and slid off a board of wood into the lake. While underwater, she saw a boat passing by, and lifted her hands up to the boat's propellor to cut the ropes around her wrists. Which of course is very unrealistic, but fun!

Addams Family Reunion had a scene played up for fun in which Wednesday tortured a cousin by leaving her tied to a chair and tapegagged, with feet in cement. If you're familiar with the Addams Family, you'd know that the family members often play unrealistic pranks on each other such as this one.

I can't think of any others.

Jazz411

jazz411@ptd.net

Thursday October 09 14:27:45 2003
donna mills

Thanks kinkynapper for the Donna Mills info.

Thursday October 09 14:38:12 2003
Shoes Removed = Dominance?

Does anybody agree that when a damsel is captured and restrained, the removal of her shoes exposing her feet exibits power over her? I believe it makes a gag and the rest of the bondage just about complete..
Like Walker - Texas Ranger - The return of LaRue -Sheree Wilson is packing her bags when the villain sneaks up on her. As she is walking around before the capture, you can see and hear her solid boots, protecting her feet.
The next time we see her he has removed her shoes and socks. Other then exposing her private parts, this is the most humiliating treatment for her as she is restrained

Thursday October 09 15:00:08 2003
Without a Trace

Late alert here, but woman goes missing on "Without a Trace" tonight. Typical storyline. Might lead to something.

Thursday October 09 15:23:22 2003
Re: What Logan??

Per wrote:

>
> Thanks a lot, Tom and unsigned!
>

That was mine ... unclaimed in a moment of synaptic misfire.

Biff

Thursday October 09 15:38:04 2003
General Hospital

The bound and gagged scene with "Lydia" just happened slightly after 30 min into the show. It happens when the villain (who is looking like the Phantom of the Opera) is talking to some guy in a cave (or something.) When the guy leaves, we then see a shot of "Lydia" tied to a post and cleavegagged with a thick black cloth.

Tapemaster

Thursday October 09 15:44:12 2003
Re: What Logan??

Biff wrote:

> That was mine ... unclaimed in a moment of synaptic
> misfire.

I hope your synapses fire harmoniously together, so you can accept

Thanks a lot Biff

Per

Thursday October 09 16:05:17 2003
Re: General Hospital

Tapemaster wrote:

> The bound and gagged scene with "Lydia" just
> happened slightly after 30 min into the show. It happens
> when the villain (who is looking like the Phantom of the
> Opera) is talking to some guy in a cave (or something.)
> When the guy leaves, we then see a shot of
> "Lydia" tied to a post and cleavegagged with a thick black cloth.

The gag was removed right after the first really good shot of it. She was shown throughout the rest of the episode, bound with the gag around her neck. The preview for tomorrow's episode showed Stefan (the Phantom of the Opera guy) holding "Lydia" (unbound and ungagged) with a knife telling "Luke" not to come any closer.

Even though the gag scene is very brief, it is very good. Hopefully, there will be more footage of her gagged tomorrow.

Tapemaster

http://www.geocities.com/gmanshomepage/GH10092003a.jpg

Thursday October 09 16:16:18 2003
Re: General Hospital

> Even though the gag scene is very brief, it is very good.

And here is a cap of it.

G-MaN

gman22471@yahoo.com

Thursday October 09 16:19:50 2003
Dumb Luck

Anyone have caps from the Tracy Nelson scene in "Dumb Luck"?????????????

Barnes

Thursday October 09 16:39:06 2003
Re: General Hospital

Tapemaster wrote:

> The bound and gagged scene with "Lydia" just
> happened slightly after 30 min into the show.

In case anyone missed it, this episode will be rerun 3 times on Soapnet: tonight at 10:00 pm, early Friday morning at 3:00 am, and Friday morning at 10:00 am.

Tapemaster

Thursday October 09 16:43:14 2003
Re: General Hospital

> In case anyone missed it, this episode will be rerun 3
> times on Soapnet: tonight at 10:00 pm, early Friday
> morning at 3:00 am, and Friday morning at 10:00 am.

That's eastern time.

Tapemaster

Thursday October 09 17:19:53 2003
Re: General Hospital

> > The bound and gagged scene with "Lydia"
> just
> > happened slightly after 30 min into the show.

After Van's teaser pic of this hottie, I HAD to catch this. I just posted today's gag scene plus yesterday's handgag. Enjoy!

Bindher

bindher@bindher.com

http://www.bindher.com

Thursday October 09 17:48:31 2003
Re: Yeserday

> Totally Spies
> all three girls were tied to posts hand behind &
> (for once) their ankles were tied too as usual GREAT
> closeups of their perfectly bound wrists.
> I LOVE totally spies!!!
> the attention to ropework is perfect...
>
> I just don't understand why they hardly ever give any
> attention to tieing the girls ankles & gaggs are so
> rare
> God would I love a few perfect chair ties...
> bound at ankles, above & below knees, hands behind,
> ropes around their chests and cleave gags

I would surmise that the focus of the show is to entertain children, and not to provide sexual titillation for adults such as ourselves, even though the latter is an inevitable consequence. I'm sure there have been several episodes in which the three hotties have had their ankles secured; there was even one that aired recently in which one of the girls was wrapped from head to toe like a mummy.
The producers are well aware that the premise of the show, hot teenage girls fighting evil, will result in their being captured and tied up by villains, and they're probably also aware of the attraction women in bondage have for many viewers. There have been many episodes in which the Spies should've been gagged, but weren't. Perhaps the producers abstain from having the Spies gagged very often because the cartoon might then become too much of an adult cartoon.

Hadji

Thursday October 09 17:50:09 2003
Potential Angel Alert (Spoilers)

I found an online synopsis for next weeks' episode "Unleashed", airing Wednesday October 15 @ 9:00 pm EST. The information is about 3 weeks old and the author stresses that it's possible some things may change, but here are the pertinent details:

Angel & company are trying to help Nina (Jenny Mollen), a woman recently made into a werewolf. The synopsis describes a scene where Nina and Fred (Amy Acker) are ambushed, resulting in Fred being knocked out & Nina abducted. After some research the gang discovers Ninas' kidnappers are an eccentric group who plan on having werewolf as the main course at an elaborate dinner party. A scene is then described where the woman is chained to a large garnished table as the diners await moonrise. Angel and the gang burst in to rescue her, and a fight breaks out. There's some dialog during the fight with Nina still chained up, after which she turns into a werewolf and breaks free.

A quick database search reveals that Mollen had a prior scene in the series '18 Wheels of Justice' though her guest appearance on that show isn't listed in the IMDB.

Thursday October 09 17:52:08 2003
Re: Dumb Luck

Barnes wrote:

> Anyone have caps from the Tracy Nelson scene in
> "Dumb Luck"?????????????

No way!!! Tracy Nelson got the full treatment? We've got to see this, I've waited forever to see this.

Greg

Thursday October 09 18:10:41 2003
nurse wrap up

Thanks to Jay L for the tip over on the Trading page - hope to see that one sometime soon. Also, kudos to all who wrote on this page a few days back concerning nurse scenes... it looks like lots of us like this aspect of DiD - and, why not? Nurses could be the ultimate candidate for a bit of rope and gag. Now, if I can just find that Victor Ballen video...

no trekkie

Thursday October 09 18:18:03 2003
Re: General Hospital

G-MaN wrote:

> > Even though the gag scene is very brief, it is very
> good.
>
> And here is a cap of it.
> http://www.geocities.com/gmanshomepage/GH10092003a.jpg

G-Man,

Thanks, but as usual, geocities is being its usual greedy son-of-a-@#&% self & is *NOT* allowing us to see the cap. Any chance you can pass it directly to someone with NON-geoshitties server space?

I can't believe I forgot to watch GH today! Geesh! :-(

Van

Thursday October 09 18:20:19 2003
Re: Yeserday

Hadji wrote:

>
> The producers are well aware that the premise of the
> show, hot teenage girls fighting evil, will result in
> their being captured and tied up by villains, and they're
> probably also aware of the attraction women in bondage
> have for many viewers. There have been many episodes in
> which the Spies should've been gagged, but weren't.
> Perhaps the producers abstain from having the Spies
> gagged very often because the cartoon might then become too much of an adult cartoon.

I SERIOSLY Doubt it!
thats almost as silly as that No-gag clause nonsense
esp when you take into account the detail involved in their bondage & the fact that one time they were restrained with actual Real life S&M bondage gear (the thingy that hooked their elbow with collars to their legs)
Someone in charge of that show has to share our tastes

Snowcat

Thursday October 09 18:21:59 2003
Re: General Hospital

Bindher wrote:

> > > The bound and gagged scene with
> "Lydia"
> > just
> > > happened slightly after 30 min into the show.
>
> After Van's teaser pic of this hottie, I HAD to catch
> this. I just posted today's gag scene plus yesterday's
> handgag. Enjoy!
http://www.bindher.com

As much as I enjoy taking credit for ANYTHING & EVERYTHING having to do with redheads, it wasn't me who posted the J. Robin/Lydia image, it was someone else. :-) THANKS for posting the images!

Van

http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound

Thursday October 09 18:29:51 2003
"Wrong Turn"

The review of the "Wrong Turn" DVD at C.H.U.D. has a very clear 'cap of Ms. Dushku's predicament:

http://www.chud.com/chudvd/reviews/wrong.php3

Their cutesy caption for the picture begins: "Mmmmph Nnnnggghhhh Ssssshhhhggh!"

Jeb

jebdel@yahoo.com

Thursday October 09 19:40:52 2003
Re: Yeserday

Snowcat wrote:

> Hadji wrote:
>
> > The producers are well aware that the premise of the
> > show, hot teenage girls fighting evil, will result
> > in their being captured and tied up by villains, and
> > they're probably also aware of the attraction women in
> > bondage have for many viewers. There have been many
> > episodes in which the Spies should've been gagged,
> > but weren't.
>
> > Perhaps the producers abstain from having the Spies
> > gagged very often because the cartoon might then
> > become too much of an adult cartoon.
>
> I SERIOSLY Doubt it!
> thats almost as silly as that No-gag clause nonsense
> esp when you take into account the detail involved in
> their bondage & the fact that one time they were
> restrained with actual Real life S&M bondage gear
> (the thingy that hooked their elbow with collars to their
> legs) Someone in charge of that show has to share our tastes

Uh... actually, I think we all could use a big dose of VAN'S FIRST LAW OF THE DiD IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, which is... IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BONDAGE; IT'S ABOUT THE STORY! In this case, it's *also* all about the target audience, which is mainly "tweens." "Totally Spies" is juvenile (& I'm *not* being disparaging.) It's about wish fullfilment delivered with a flashy, self-depreciating style. The "Spies" are beautiful & popular, yet they're also *flawed*, & the subplot is always a "lesson learned" sort of thing. The tweens can simultaneously identify with *&* feel "wiser" than the protagonists. The dialogue is fast & clever, & the action even faster (& unrealistic.) If one of the Spies *is* gagged, you can bet it'll be played for laughs, just like the signature Anime-style AAAAARRRRGH!!! scenes with the girls running from danger. Cool outfits, nifty gadgets *&* Nancy Drew style non-threatening danger is what the show is about. Finally, the girls don't get gagged much for the same reason the Scoobies & Buffy never got gagged much: "M'mmmpfh..." is *not* snappy patter. *WE* may appreciate the delicious music of good mewing, but IT'S NOT WHAT THE SHOW IS ABOUT!!!

Van

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gaggedactressesontv/

Thursday October 09 19:55:16 2003
Dumb Luck (2001)

Barnes wrote:

> Anyone have caps from the Tracy Nelson scene in "Dumb Luck"?
------
There's one vidcap at the "Gagged Actresses on TV" Yahoo group. Go to "Photos", then "Top Actresses", then "Tracy Nelson" (Pic #119).

Kinky-napper

Thursday October 09 20:18:24 2003
Re: Tonight, Tonight

Biff wrote:
Thanks for the info ... and luckily I don't have anything
> invested in this series ... but others might, so keeping
> the plot twist a mystery would be appreciated by them,
> I'd imagine.

Then I'd suggest they not read the site until they have
watched the show. This is NOT a TV forum.

Brian R

Thursday October 09 20:18:55 2003
This week's update

This week: Jean Carson and Jane Dulo in Andy Griffith "Convicts At Large," Rebecca Lisak in Hack "A Dangerous Game," Amy Jo Johnson in Hard Ground, Jennifer Jostyn and several unknowns in House of 1000 Corpses (*), Phyllis Coates and Ann Doran in The Adventures Of Superman "A Night Of Terror," and Julie Baltay in Under Investigation (*).

(*) viewer discretion advised for these scenes, which do not end well for one or more of their damsels.

Raffish

raffish@abductor.com

http://www.abductor.com/raffish

Thursday October 09 20:33:40 2003
bed bound / leading actresses

There seems to be lack of damsels bound to the bed - on their backs, either feet together or tied to the posts or hand over head . This is and extremely vulnerable position.
Does anybody believe like I do that there is a tremendous audience waiting for a damsel in distress?
Most of the current T.V. shows (C.S.I. Crossing Jordan, Law and Order only leave a glimpse of bondage scenesand do not have the main woman characters involved!!
My wish is to see a leading lady from one of theses shows become a captive!!! preferably bed bound and feet exposed but the probability is very small........

Thursday October 09 20:35:57 2003
also

I am sure that I am not the only one with this wish

Thursday October 09 20:39:15 2003
Re: The Bold and the Beautiful

Tapemaster wrote:

> I only caught a little of this toward the end:
> "Brooke" (Katherine Kelly Lang) was tied up
> (hands behind) sitting next to her husband (who is also
> bound.) She was not gagged. I don't know if she was gagged earlier.

Brooke was actually chained up (hands behind, ankles together). She was not gagged at all. There were a few good closeups of her chained wrists when she scooted across the floor to pick up the key to the lock on their chains. The key was tossed there by a putz who swiped it from Sheila's accomplice while kissing her. Brooke was freeing another putz's hands as today's episode ended.

Thursday October 09 21:32:40 2003
Re: Yeserday

'IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BONDAGE; IT'S ABOUT THE STORY!'

Naive.

'IT'S NOT WHAT THE SHOW IS ABOUT!!!'

And comic books aren't really fetish filled power fantasies.

'Thanks, but as usual, geocities is being its usual greedy son-of-a-@#&% self & is *NOT* allowing us to see the cap.'

Cut & paste the link.

Thursday October 09 21:40:37 2003
Re: Tonight, Tonight

Brian R wrote:

>
> Then I'd suggest they not read the site until they have
> watched the show. This is NOT a TV forum.
>

Sorta defeats the purpose, doesn't it? I, and doubtless others, wanted to know if there was more besides the handgag, when it occurred, and if there *was* more, when *that* occurred ... *before* it aired here. That's a very important function of this page for folks outside the Eastern Time Zone.

That information easily could have been related without giving away anything that would spoil any surprises in the plot.

As you say ... this isn't a TV forum. So why divulge anything other than the information pertinent to the sequence?

Just the facts, ma'am.

Biff

Thursday October 09 22:52:52 2003
Re: Yeserday

(unsigned poster) wrote:

> 'IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BONDAGE; IT'S ABOUT THE STORY!'
>
> Naive.

You (whoever you are) must not have been here during the last round of speculation about actresses having no gag clauses in their contracts or how TV/movie bondage is crappy & loose because of Feminism. If you think my observation that Hollywood's (& Burbank's) creative element focuses on Shakespeare rather than John Willie means I lack worldliness & am simple and credulous... that's interesting. Thanks for sharing.

> 'IT'S NOT WHAT THE SHOW IS ABOUT!!!'
>
> And comic books aren't really fetish filled power
> fantasies.

...which is more or less the point of "IT'S ABOUT THE STORY!" I guess you're 'naive' too. :-)

Van