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Tuesday September 23 00:17:21 2003
Getting stuff in the database
Reminder to people about scenes they discuss here. Please put them in the database as well. It's best when they are fresh in your mind.

I had reason to check on some recent scenes, Jake 2.0 and the DOOL scene with Lauren Koslow. Neither was in there. I added them based on postings here.

Brian R
Tuesday September 23 00:32:28 2003
Database: 1-800-MISSING
Episode: "I Thought I Knew You" (1.4)

The last 15 minutes came through with a tape-gagged damsel bound at the wrists. Guy alert. Plus, the mom shows up in cuffs at the end.


Umm, what mom? The victim's mom? Also, let's try to get some reasonable details. How is she tied? With what? What kind of tape?

Also, don't use the word "putz". I keep having to change that. It's ok for your informal discussion here, but it's not appropriate for the database.

Brian R
Tuesday September 23 01:04:37 2003
Re: Database: 1-800-MISSING
Brian R wrote:

> Episode: "I Thought I Knew You" (1.4)

Oh bugger.. Caught up with ID'ing that German show and forgot about this!
Sort over on Data-Base Corrections Page
Jay L
Tuesday September 23 02:50:08 2003
Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast."
Van wrote:
> This is what comes from treating "DiD scenes"
> as static objects

You know, it's funny that you mention that. "One DiDCap wonder" and my proposed "mute button scene" terms might come into existance simply because they refer to DiD scenes that are only good as static objects! It's sad that such scenes exist - it's hard to imagine them having any impact upon the average viewer when the scenes are just "there".

> struggle? All that matters. All of it is important.
> But the *most* important? THE STORY!!! Dramatic context

I agree with this one...to an extent. If the scene is horribly done and really clashes with the intent (i.e. damsel is tied very noticeably loosely, but she's supposed to be a kidnap victim), then it really hurts the scene. But whenever I see a scene, I really want to know the context behind it.

Something as simple as someone's hands being tied in front to a pole with no gag can be changed from a ho-hum DiD scene to a masterpiece (not quite, but almost) if, say for example, it occured after a big chase and the damsel was inside a building rigged to explode, and the tying occured onscreen to emphasize that the scene took place in realtime. That's when plot makes all the difference.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Tuesday September 23 03:14:27 2003
Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast."
Van wrote:

> But the *most* important? THE STORY!!! Dramatic context
> (the power of the writer's words & the director skill
> in putting them on the screen) is everything!

I miss your site solely because of excellent commentary like this.

King Kong is probably the all time "classic" damsel in distress scenes for it's artistic value. Jungles, monster, exotic setting, one of the most unique characters ever created on film as the villian. Not too many of these out there.

Lots of scenes are famous because of their extended bondage, very few great DiD scenes are classics due to their plot and not because of the bondage.

King Kong, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Faster Pussycat KIll KIll, Jamaica Inn.
These are situation driven bondage scenes where they are supported by the plot and don't depend on closeups of gags and excessive ropework.
Anubis
Tuesday September 23 06:28:46 2003
Las Vegas TV series
No DiD scenes on Monday night's premiere episode of "Las Vegas", nor is any hinted at in the previews for the 2nd episode, but I must say that it's a "Target-rich" environment.

Nikki Cox, as a Vegas native, not only "sees and knows too much for her own good", but she passes that information along to her childhood friend the casino's Security VP. Vanessa Marcil's new hire knows how to push his buttons. And Molly Sims' hot-to-trot rebellious daughter can be counted on to ignore Big Ed's admonitions (such as, "I don't want you taking any chances tonight...").

Oh, and Cheryl Ladd (hardly aged since "One West Waikiki") was introduced as Sims' mother, and James Caan's ex-wife. Projecting that Ladd may reappear on the TV series from time-to-time, "some" here may be hoping for a Mother-daughter b&g scene where Ladd & Sims are kidnapped by villains to either ransom them to Big Ed or to force him to compromise the casino's security...

One of the few negatives: The previews & some ads indicate that Marcil may color her hair to go "blonder". Why?! Polls had her pegged among soap opera's Most beautiful + Best hair, and it makes sense for her to remain a brunette for "Las Vegas" anyway (to contrast w/ Cox's redhead and Sims' blonde).
Kinky-napper
Tuesday September 23 06:46:02 2003
Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast."
Van wrote:

The "Bride of Kong" scene with the
> sacrifical platform, Ann's binding between the columns
> with twisted vines, her terrified whimpering while they
> ring the gong, the appearance of Kong, Ann's reaction...
> pretty lame?... PRETTY LAME??? Have you seen the damn
> film???

I agree, it IS one of the best films ever made, and the scene was great too with all that struggling from Fay Wray.

The only thing I do not like it her clothing, the 30s style dress with the big buttons, makes her look too much like a clown.
Per
Tuesday September 23 06:51:07 2003
what?
Also, don't use the word "putz". I keep having to change that. It's ok for your informal discussion here, but it's not appropriate for the database

why not? everybody here knows what it means...
WMD
Tuesday September 23 06:55:59 2003
Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast."
...I mean imagine the natives had dressed her in jungle girl outfit- or native princess outfit- something sexy at least, then this classic scene would be perfect.
Per
Tuesday September 23 07:03:03 2003
Re: "T'was beauty that killed the beast."
Per wrote:

> ...I mean imagine the natives had dressed her in jungle
> girl outfit- or native princess outfit- something sexy at
> least, then this classic scene would be perfect.

....and no don't say there's a gag missing for it to be perfect.The BIG APE crashes through the jungle rooting up trees, the natives chant "KONG! KONG!" to the sound of drums, so a gag wouldn't exactly fit in the storyline.

Per, not a gag snob
Tuesday September 23 08:26:19 2003
Charlene Tilton Circus Bondage
There was a scene many, many years ago in a movie with Charlene Tilton in some sort of circus thing where she was spreadeagled on some contraption as part of the act (Knife throwing?) In any case, it showed up once and my VCR at that time decided to screw up, so I never got the scene. It has never been shown again and I was wondering if anyone either remembered it or has it?
Hermango
hermango@hotmail.com
Tuesday September 23 08:45:25 2003
Re: Best "Spread-Eagle" Scenes?
gytalf2000 wrote:

> Hey, I really enjoyed all the great responses to my
> "best chair ties" query! Thanks for all the
> info! I have new question for the board: What do you
> think are the best scenes featuring girls tied or chained
> in a "spread-eagle" position?

My top three choices:
1. Spun - a nice lengthy scene of a spreadeagled, tape gagged, and completely nude (and comely) DID.

2. Crime and Punishment - a very short-lived NBC series from the early 90s. The DID was spreadeagled in her dress, tape gagged and had a sleep blindfold on for most of her predicament. A lengthy sequence.

3.Eaten Alive - Marilyn Burns doing what she did best; screaming with a gag in her mouth. But in this movie she is also writhing, shaking, and bouncing the bed as much as her spreadeagled body will allow.
elbie
Tuesday September 23 11:37:54 2003
John Ritter
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> John Ritter was involved in a classic handcuff joke on"Three's Company" TV Series. He also rescued Pam Dawber in "Stay Tuned".
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And in the 2000 movie "Tripfall", his wife (Rachel Hunter) is held captive b&g'd.
Kinky-napper
Tuesday September 23 11:57:01 2003
Scene Database entries
WMD wrote:

> > Also, don't use the word "putz". I keep having to change that. It's ok for your informal discussion here, but it's not appropriate for the database
>
> why not? everybody here knows what it means...
------
1) Because that's the Moderator's ruling should be sufficient. Oh, and as the owner he's also been paying 100% of this site's costs.

2) First-timers (especially if English is not their primary language) will not understand the meaning of "Putz".

Kinky-napper
Tuesday September 23 13:22:15 2003
Re: Best "Spread-Eagle" Scenes?
Agree 10000% about 'Eaten Alive'.

With the way she was struggling I was waiting for the bed to collapse, sure sounded like it might :-)

Plus it had the marvelous Neville Brand as the creepy villian [OT factoid, Neville Brand was one of the most highly decorated combat soldiers of WWII].
Jacot
Tuesday September 23 13:37:33 2003
Maxim #70- Gina Gershon
Next time you're at the newsstand, take a peek at the Gina Gershon cover story in the latest issue of Maxim, and let us know if our gal GG gets asked any interesting questions about her role in "Bound".

I know, long shot, but it's the kind of topic that Maxim delights in. And if I get the answer myself, I'll post it.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Tuesday September 23 14:07:45 2003
Passions
Sheridan's captors are letting her out of the pit. They are going to try to dump her in the ocean. Her bound and gagged scene may start soon.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Tuesday September 23 14:16:20 2003
Re: Passions
Good news: Sheridan is getting taped up. Bad news: she has been BLINDFOLDED!

Hopefully, the blindfold will come off.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Tuesday September 23 14:32:50 2003
Re: Passions
This is absolutely insane. Sheridan's blindfold is taped snugly onto her head, but she is NOT gagged.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Tuesday September 23 14:54:14 2003
Re: Passions
Tapemaster wrote:

> This is absolutely insane. Sheridan's blindfold is taped
> snugly onto her head, but she is NOT gagged.

They're gonna get her big mouth taped shut. I just know it. C'mon y'all.



doug
doug5759@aol.com
Tuesday September 23 15:00:23 2003
Re: Passions
When Luis showed up, Sheridan got handgagged. Then she was taken into a "soundproof" room, where she could "scream all she wants." Then Sheridan falls down the stairs and gets knocked unconscious. Somehow, this fall manages to break the duct tape around her wrists.

Any comments?
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Tuesday September 23 15:06:43 2003
Re: Passions
Tapemaster wrote:

> When Luis showed up, Sheridan got handgagged. Then she
> was taken into a "soundproof" room, where she
> could "scream all she wants." Then Sheridan
> falls down the stairs and gets knocked unconscious.
> Somehow, this fall manages to break the duct tape around
> her wrists.

Any comments?

Yeah: I like handgags. Good for Sheridan, but, for god-dog-dog -- GAG HER!!!!!! That's what we all want, right?!!? I'm keeping the faith. If that were a reliable spoiler quoted before, I still think she'll get the gag. Fingers are crossed . . .

Ice Cream Man
Tuesday September 23 15:17:32 2003
Candyman 3
I noticed that the Candyman caps were fairly dark so I've replaced them with remastered versions.

E-mail me what you think.
Gratefuldead1212
boundandgagged2003@hotmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/gratefuldead1212
Tuesday September 23 16:35:50 2003
Maxim #70 (USA) October 2003 - Gina Gershon
Jeb wrote:

> Next time you're at the newsstand, take a peek at the Gina Gershon cover story in the latest issue of Maxim, and let us know if our gal GG gets asked any interesting questions about her role in "Bound".

I know, long shot, but it's the kind of topic that Maxim delights in.
---------
Or her role in "Demonlover", which opens in some U.S. cities on September 26.
Kinky-napper
Tuesday September 23 16:49:39 2003
Kellie Martin
Kellie Martin is involved somehow in an abduction storyline on tonight's "Special Victims Unit," where a pregant woman is kidnapped. Listings don't say what her role is, cop or victim.
Tuesday September 23 17:01:42 2003
Passions
TM (or anyone else who watched the soap today), I started recording when she was being pulled from the pit. Unfortunitly, my VCR was set to the wrong channel and my computer froze up so I didn't catch anything thing leading into the comercial break. Was there any bondage there or the was the start of the bondage when they returned from the break. (Which I did catch.) Thanks.
G-MaN
gman22471@yahoo.com
http://www.eroticdistress.com/gman/
Tuesday September 23 17:05:14 2003
Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Kellie Martin is involved somehow in an abduction storyline on tonight's "Special Victims Unit," where a pregant woman is kidnapped. Listings don't say what her role is, cop or victim.
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As previously posted in the "VCR Alerts" section...
Kinky-napper
Tuesday September 23 17:27:45 2003
Re: Maxim #70 (USA) October 2003 - Gina Gershon
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Jeb wrote:
>
> > Next time you're at the newsstand, take a peek at
> the Gina Gershon cover story in the latest issue of
> Maxim, and let us know if our gal GG gets asked any
> interesting questions about her role in
> "Bound".
> ---------
> Or her role in "Demonlover", which opens in some U.S. cities on September 26.

There's a mention of Bound, but it's about the rumors that she was a lesbian because of the movie. She said she's not a lesbian, but her girlfriend is (Haha!- good one). No menion of the actual bondage, though. No mention of Demonlover, either.

Tom
Tuesday September 23 18:27:45 2003
Re: Passions
G-MaN wrote:

> TM (or anyone else who watched the soap today), I started
> recording when she was being pulled from the pit.
> Unfortunitly, my VCR was set to the wrong channel and my
> computer froze up so I didn't catch anything thing
> leading into the comercial break. Was there any bondage
> there or the was the start of the bondage when they
> returned from the break. (Which I did catch.) Thanks.
> http://www.eroticdistress.com/gman/

The bondage starts after "Charlie" pulls "Sheridan" out of the pit. Sheridan says something like "Are you really going to let me take a bath?" Charlie then grabs a roll of duct tape and starts wrapping a piece around Sheridan's arms and torso. Then she gets blindfolded. Later we see her wrists being wrapped with duct tape in front. Then duct tape is wrapped over the blindfold.

This show seems determined to blindfold Sheridan at every possible opportunity (even when she is not bound) yet they don't seem to care about a gag. The only time she was bound and GAGGED was when Luis was in the house and Sheridan was wandering around, both being oblivious to the fact that they were only a few feet away from each other. However, in that scene she was blindfolded as usual.

What is the sense of blindfolding her now, since they are planning to kill her? Could this be a case of gratuitous blindfolding? Does the writer or director of Passions have a blindfold fetish?

Even though I hate blindfolds, I hope that the people who like blindfolds are enjoying this storyline.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Tuesday September 23 22:02:23 2003
Re: Re the 'P' word
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

> I've never seen addressed: Which 'Put...zzzzzzzz' scenes
> would have been right on - unbelievably fantastic! had
> the gender been switched to female

There was a Robert Mitchum film in the 70's called "The Amsterdam Kill". The bad guys grab him on the street for interrogation. In the next scene he's strapped down shirtless to a gurney with a bit gag and heart monitor electrodes on his chest. The doctor reads a list of names to him knowing that the correct one will register on the monitors. Lost of close-ups of Mitchum struggling to not listen then an expression of resignation as he hears the audible heart monitor give away the correct name. Good gloating by the villain too. Something like this would work great in a show like "Alias" or "She Spies".
iD
Tuesday September 23 22:02:57 2003
Re: Scene Database entries
Kinky-napper wrote:

> WMD wrote:
>
> > > Also, don't use the word "putz".

> > why not? everybody here knows what it means...

> 1) Because that's the Moderator's ruling should be
> sufficient. Oh, and as the owner he's also been paying
> 100% of this site's costs.

While in the end, this is the overriding reason, I hope
people will accept my reasons for not wanting it in.

> 2) First-timers (especially if English is not their
> primary language) will not understand the meaning of
> "Putz".

That's a key reason. I actually get email asking about
it. Also, I like to promote a bit of professionalism
and detachment in the entries. Using the word "putz" is
the equivalent of calling them "dick" or "prick", and
not really the tone I'm going for.

Tuesday September 23 23:11:38 2003
Re: Passions
Tapemaster wrote:

> This is absolutely insane. but she is NOT gagged.

Boo Hoo!
mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com

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