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| Thursday September 04 01:19:40 2003 Re: Walker: Texas Ranger |
| Eric wrote:
> "The Return of LaRue," an all-time classic, or > a U.S. Open fourth-round men's tennis match? > > USA Network has its priorities all messed up. Obviously referring to it as an all time classic is subjective, most of us who have been around for a few years probably have the scene on tape already. I think I can safely say for those newbies, considering the popularity of "WALKER" on USA, that you will get plenty of opportunities to tape it. On the other hand the US Open is only on once a year. Give USA a break. |
| HALLBIRD |
| Thursday September 04 01:22:57 2003 Re: Silent Scream |
| Tapemaster wrote:
> Van, Brian's right. Rebecca Balding has an over-the-mouth > gag throughout the ENTIRE scene. There is NEVER a shot of > her cleave-gagged, as in the poster. Perhaps it was from > a still shot taken from alternate takes, or maybe the > artist thought it would look better with a cleave. > > It's one of the best scenes ever! For once a superlative I agree with. And don't forget, before the gag we have one of the best hand gag scenes you could ask for, and I'm not a handgag fan |
| hallbird |
| Thursday September 04 01:26:01 2003 Re: Walker: Texas Ranger |
| HALLBIRD wrote:
> Obviously referring to it as an all time classic is > subjective, most of us who have been around for a few > years probably have the scene on tape already. I think I > can safely say for those newbies, considering the > popularity of "WALKER" on USA, that you will > get plenty of opportunities to tape it. On the other > hand the US Open is only on once a year. Give USA a break. Well, if they panned over to Steffi Graf getting the full treatment in the spectator stands, I'd be with you. But I was looking forward to upgrading my old taped copy of the scene. |
| Eric |
| Thursday September 04 01:37:47 2003 Re: Kerhop is missing? |
| dr... wrote:
> Anyone notice Kerhop's webpage (borrowed from space at > http://www.derekbarker.com) is gone <snip> Kerhop's Kaptures will be relaunched in the near future at a different URL though I'm still working out the details. It's not my place to discuss what happened with the old location. |
| Kerhop |
| kerhop@oz.net |
| Thursday September 04 05:16:07 2003 Re: Silent Scream |
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> Makes > > one wonder why the writers would have gone theu the > > > trouble to include packing that: 1) isn't shown > being > > applied 2) you can't see thru the gag when it's tied > over > > her mouth and 3) you just see for a split second as > she > > removes the gag. It's a mainstream thriller, not a bondage flick. The writer and/or director probably thought the reason WHY the lady was tied up more important than exactly HOW. I haven't seen the film, but it sounds as if a fairly competent job was done. Count yourself lucky. There are other considerations, too:- Continuity. Once you gag an actress, by whatever means, you must either keep her gagged until you've done all the shots required (could take hours or even days if time-of-day lighting or availability of other performers is a consideration), or give her a rest and re-apply the muffle exactly as before. The former is unreasonably hard on the performer, the latter very hard to achieve. Is the gag tight enough, high enough on the face, the right shape and size, etc, etc? I remember a newspaper quote from an actress who appeared in "The Professionals". She said, "I spent most of the time tied up with plaster over my mouth." Her DiD scene occupied a few seconds of screen time, but seems to have taken longer to film than her considerable speaking part!Either that or what she remembered most was being pissed off at being silenced and immobilised for a while. Continuity successes include "Chandler and Co" and the tape scenes in "Okavango". Continuity disasters include "Blind Witness" and "Cat and Mouse", in which latter a nice patterned scarf gag turns inside out overnight! Gags that alternate between OTM and cleave are particularly unconvincing. Pacing. It may not seem so to us, but there are times when a tying-up scene could slow the action or spoil any mystery element. In many thrillers, the whereabouts and condition of the damsel are unknown to hero and audience, and this is a good tension-building device. Showing the villain tying the lady up may be fun, but it would kill some plots stone dead. Ethics. In earlier film-making times, depicting the fairly intimate physical contact involved in binding and gagging a damsel at all effectively might have been frowned upon by censors, or even some elements of the audience. Better to present it as a fait accompli and leave the physical bit to the imagination. |
| Phimophilus |
| Thursday September 04 07:28:19 2003 Aaaaargh! |
| The current issue of W magazine features a portfolio of forty artists and photographers working with Kate Moss. According to the contributors section, Steve Klein was going to photograph Moss 'all tied up' but that idea 'didn't fly' (with who?). Instead he photographed a room overloaded with Moss paraphenelia. |
| ss |
| Thursday September 04 10:01:14 2003 Re: Silent Scream |
| Phimophilus wrote:
> It's a mainstream thriller, not a bondage flick. The > writer and/or director probably thought the reason WHY > the lady was tied up more important than exactly HOW. I > haven't seen the film, but it sounds as if a fairly > competent job was done. Count yourself lucky. Certainly. I agree. However, I wasn't complaining that the gag wasn't the same from scene to scene, or that we didn't GET to see more of the packing job. Rather, I was curious as to why he added a nice little detail like that, which added realism to the scene, if it was only going to be seen, is at all, that split second as the gag is pulled down. A regular OTM gag would have been easier, and probably more comfortable to Ms. Balding, and achieved the same effect of a tied & silenced damsel. Perhaps, as someone said earlier, there was originally more to the scene that ended up on the cutting room floor. |
| JP |
| JAPfeif@aol.com |
| Thursday September 04 10:10:59 2003 Days of our Lives |
| I take it nothing further is happening on Days concerning Sami and her "daydreams" involving a tied & gagged Kate since those first 2 days? |
| Thursday September 04 10:42:42 2003 Re: Silent Scream |
| > Continuity disasters include "Blind Witness"
> and "Cat and Mouse", ...and the best one of all, 'Marathon Angels' |
| Thursday September 04 11:18:24 2003 General Hospital Web Site |
| You have to check this out |
| Canuck |
| http://www.targetgh.com/hall_execution.htm |
| Thursday September 04 11:19:54 2003 Re: General Hospital Web Site |
| Try the home page of the site |
| Canuck |
| http://www.targetgh.com/index.htm |
| Thursday September 04 11:23:06 2003 Re: General Hospital Web Site |
| Amazing
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| Thursday September 04 12:16:36 2003 Re: General Hospital Web Site |
| > Amazing
And a great banner!! |
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| Thursday September 04 13:17:48 2003 Re: Aaaaargh! |
| ss wrote:
> The current issue of W magazine features a portfolio of > forty artists and photographers working with Kate Moss. > According to the contributors section, Steve Klein was > going to photograph Moss 'all tied up' but that idea > 'didn't fly' (with who?). Instead he photographed a room > overloaded with Moss paraphenelia. At least actress Virginie Ledoyen was game to be tied up with movie tape, apparently symbolizing her career: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/6050/bd-movietape.jpg I still love that picture. There's just something about it. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Thursday September 04 14:30:44 2003 Re: General Hospital Web Site |
| > And a great banner!!
> Quite |
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| Sonny |
| Thursday September 04 16:55:42 2003 Re: The Professionals |
| > I remember a newspaper quote from an actress who appeared
> in "The Professionals". She said, "I spent > most of the time tied up with plaster over my > mouth." Is this a recently released film? The title sounds familiar. I couldn't find it listed in the database. |
| Hadji |
| Thursday September 04 17:42:26 2003 Cold Creek Manor? |
| The premise looks good, the trailer shows nothing definite, and the website says "official site coming soon"; great, the movie opens in 8 days, good move.
Mike Figgis is a good director, anyone have any scoops on the script? Thanks. The movie makes me wonder if there has ever been a good scene in a movie that had no clues in the trailer, cast photos, script or not, or any other media and then produced a good scene. I think generally, if you don't see a clue it usually means it's not there; which better not be true of TCM. |
| Thursday September 04 17:42:57 2003 Re: General Hospital Web Site |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Amazing > > And a great banner!! > > Almost looks like something someone in these parts would make. Perhaps someone should create an alternative site: Keep up the good work General Hospital! |
| ss |
| Thursday September 04 18:16:40 2003 Re: Silent Scream |
| Phimophilus wrote:
>Gags that alternate between OTM and cleave are particularly >unconvincing. What shatters the illusion for me are cleaves that get progressively looser as the scene progresses, telling me that someone (or the actress herself if she's only pretending to be tied) has been pulling it down between takes. Prime example would be Cybill Sheperd in the famous "Taming of the Shrew" scene. |
| Paul |
| Thursday September 04 20:05:54 2003 Too little too late (maybe) |
| I just saw the end of The Hunter, with Steve MacQueen, and Kathrine Herrold was bound and tape gagged. I dont know if this was mentioned before, perhaps, the movie will be shown again. On AMC. |
| Kevin |
| Thursday September 04 20:32:53 2003 The Hunter (1980) |
| Kevin wrote:
> I just saw the end of The Hunter, with Steve MacQueen, and Kathrine Herrold was bound and tape gagged. I dont know if this was mentioned before, perhaps, the movie will be shown again. On AMC. -------- I've added a post to the "VCR Alerts" page that "The Hunter" will be re-aired on Saturday, September 6 3:10PM E.T. AMC had also aired it on Sept 3 8:00PM E.T. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Thursday September 04 21:16:12 2003 Re: General Hospital Web Site |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Amazing Can anyone ID the episode/actress featured in the middle shot in the postcard image? ("Love in the afternoon"?)I never saw that one before. I'm assuming it is from a more recent episode. Is this one we/I missed? |
| PRW |
| Thursday September 04 21:51:18 2003 Re: General Hospital Web Site |
| PRW wrote:
> Can anyone ID the episode/actress featured in the middle > shot in the postcard image? ("Love in the > afternoon"?) Answering my own question: After taking another look at the shot, I think it comes from the same episode as the other two shots. I guess the "darker" hair (due to shadow) threw me off. |
| PRW |
| Thursday September 04 22:16:34 2003 Re: The Professionals |
| > Is this a recently released film? The title sounds
> familiar. I couldn't find it listed in the database. It's a British show from the 1970s and early '80s, about a fictitious anti-crime unit called C.I.5. It was very successful if a bit dumb, and certainly shown Stateside, but possibly under a different title. I remember at least two DiD scenes. The lady interviewed played an abducted lawyer, and in another ep a secretary was tied and tapegagged by terrorists burgling an office. She writhed and mmmphed magnificently as a firefight erupted around her. |
| Phimophilus |
| Thursday September 04 22:19:52 2003 Re: The Professionals |
| It is in the Database, as "Professionals, The", and it actually has four scenes listed. |
| Phimophilus |
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