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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Monday September 29 00:06:54 2003 Re: Heart's Open Fire |
| > Now that's eerie! The Kindly One wrote:
> When a customer appears and sees her B&G, they chat about >her cuffs and gag and the robber calls it the latest >fashion. The customer accepts this story and leaves, even >though she mmmphs up a storm! Yes, and now I remember the binding and gagging was done on screen (and was sexy also); something that is getting very rare these days. Deadly Swarm on SciFi recently had an on screen gagging but the baddies arm completely blocked the view of the gagging so you didn't really see it at all. On the Texas CM no scene, I think that's an example of trailers and pics really showing no clue or reason for a b&g, therefore no b&g in the movie (Achem's Razor theory). On the other hand, I feel a premonition that a great scene (where bondage is the point) is coming soon, ala TAU. Why? Mostly because it's overdue. |
| Monday September 29 00:18:47 2003 Helen Talbot |
| I was checking out a Yahoo Group called "Black and White Bound", basically a celebration of scenes from old black and white TV shows and movies. Most of them were actually quite disappointingly lame, proving that the "good old days" might well be an illusion for the most part! But I did find one lady with several diverse scenes to her credit: Helen Talbot.
A quick sweep of the database lists all of the scenes featured in these pics! Click the link to check out a quick collage I put together of the only 6 screencaps they had. Also note that the one chair-tie - the actual tying up part of it - is onscreen. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/6050/bd-helen-col.jpg |
| Monday September 29 00:39:46 2003 Re: Whiling away free time |
| Pat Powers wrote:
> Sounds like it might be fun to me, but as i have no > experience in fantasy football, I have no idea how it > would work. Would we be guessing which show is most > likely to produce the best scene for the week or what? Each player would have a list of shows, probably 10, that would generate points based on what if anything happens, with a weighting factor based on the show type. So you don't get much for 1-800-Missing, but a sitcom would score big. |
| Brian R |
| Monday September 29 00:43:47 2003 Re: Heart's Open Fire |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Yes, and now I remember the binding and gagging was done > on screen (and was sexy also); Not binding exactly, cuffs for wrists and ankles. Black cloth gag, over-the-mouth I *think*. |
| Brian R |
| Monday September 29 01:45:45 2003 Re: Heart's Open Fire |
| Brian R wrote:
> > Not binding exactly, cuffs for wrists and ankles. Black > cloth gag, over-the-mouth I *think*. > Right ... it was an overgag that miscontinuitied from thin to wide. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Monday September 29 03:27:20 2003 Re: TCM for October |
| Boyo wrote:
> I just posted alerts for TCM for October. > > I seem to remember I post this summer with 'Kiss' in the > title that turned out not to have a DiD in it. Killer's Kiss has a chair tie scene in it, so this alert is good. October 12 Sunday 4:30 AM Killer's Kiss (1955) |
| Jay L |
| Monday September 29 05:50:04 2003 Re: She Spies |
| The Greyman wrote:
> Despite the fact that the first episode of the new season > featured a gag-scene, I think there's trouble on the > horizon for the show and us. > > During the initial six(?) weeks run of SHE SPIES on NBC, > the show was played almost over the top tongue-in-cheek. > That went away a bit after they switched to cable, but > still, the show never seemed to take itself too > seriously. (It couldn't, not with girls fighting, > climbing walls, and attempting to be stealthy while > constantly wearing stiletto heels.) > > Well, the new season has started and "Jack" is > gone, replaced by your standard > "tough-guy-on-the-outside-but-really-a-good-guy-on-th > e-inside" boss along with the standard > dweebish-but-cute techno-geek who's all thumbs around the > girls. > > Yawn. BTDT. > > I think the more serious and standard TV spy drama the > show tries to be, the less chance we'll have for some tie-n-gag scenes with the trio. Just my opinion. I'm afraid I must disagree with you, Greyman. I watched the season premiere yesterday afternoon, and I believe that the potential for seeing bound and gagged damsels on the show has increased, if anything. Despite the replacement of the bumbling and wisecracking boss, "Jack", with a more staid and serious one, the show retains its light-hearted and jocular disposition. The sarcastic badinage between the characters continues unabated, and the show has not exhibited any pretensions of being serious. It passes itself off as a spoof of action-adventure shows featuring strong and intrepid female leads, most notably "Charlie's Angels", which is exactly what it is. The producers of the show are very much attuned to the tastes of the viewing public, which is evidenced by the survival and success of the show. They are very cognizant of the allure of bound and gagged actresses for many viewers, so they incorporated such bondage scenes into a decent proportion of last season's episodes. I'm sure they also analyzed the ratings for individual episodes, and perhaps noticed that the reruns of episodes in which actresses were bound and gagged were watched the most frequently. Since they want to continue the success of the show, I conjecture that they'll cater to the viewing desires of the public and incorporate more bound and gagged actresses into the plots of future episodes. |
| Hadji |
| Monday September 29 06:19:01 2003 Kerhop's Kaptures has returned... |
| Moderator, this is a one-time posting to the general forum.
Kerhop's Kaptures is back online at the following link: http://www.derekbarkers.com/kerhopf/default.html |
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| Kerhop |
| kerhop@oz.net |
| http://www.derekbarkers.com/kerhopf/default.html |
| Monday September 29 06:27:07 2003 Re: What are these? |
| Jay L wrote:
> Here, Cynthia Preston was a regular in Total Recall 2070. > IMDB has photos that you can compare with your pics. > Figure might be her Looks like her all right....I won't pretend I ever heard about this series before. There are no DB entries from it (a "total recall" search only brings up the movie with Schwarzenegger and Sharon Stone) Thanx anyway I will write "total recall 2070 (?)" on it. Still 3 to go guys. (Link) |
| Per |
| http://homepage.mac.com/perk99/PhotoAlbum6.html |
| Monday September 29 06:32:14 2003 Re: What are these? |
| Per wrote:
> Still 3 to go guys. (Link) Nr 2, 3 and 5 from upper left still unidentified (OK Moderator I promise I won't post reminders all the time) |
| Per |
| Monday September 29 06:35:58 2003 Re: Kerhop's Kaptures has returned... |
| Kerhop wrote:
> Kerhop's Kaptures is back online... Wonderful news, welcome back. |
| Per |
| Monday September 29 09:55:04 2003 Re: Kerhop's Kaptures has returned... |
| Per wrote:
> Kerhop wrote: > > > Kerhop's Kaptures is back online... > > Wonderful news, welcome back. GREAT News!!! Welcome back Hoppy...you were missed |
| Snowcat |
| Monday September 29 10:23:28 2003 Kudos! ,Kill Bill |
| Congrats to 1-800 Missing for reaching 4 DIDs this quickly,much faster than the similarily themed Without A Trace. It was difficult to tell,but next week could give it another gag scene.The potential for this show (missing women!)is enormous so here's hoping it goes several seasons.
Does anyone remember the context in which Uma's character is said to get the treatment in KB? She takes a bullet in the head but is apparently not gagged when that happens.Before that perhaps? |
| Monday September 29 11:33:15 2003 Re: What are these? |
| Jay L wrote:
> Jay L wrote: > > > I'll have to check into the top left corner pic, > > but believe if from the Total Recall series? > > ____________ > > Here, Cynthia Preston was a regular in Total Recall 2070. > IMDB has photos that you can compare with your pics. > Figure might be her __________________________________________________ That indeed is Cynthia Preston from the Total Recall TV series. It's a promo shot and the device itself was used to implant memory images (not for bondage). |
| Monday September 29 11:37:33 2003 Re: Soap Opera Charity Event |
| > GH's Cynthia Preston and Alicia Leigh Willis are having a
> charity event on September 14 in L.A. where "fans > get to meet and shake hands with their favorite day-time > celebrities, to support the Desi Geestman > Foundation". > I wonder if anyone from here went there. It would have been interesting asking B&G questions without being obvious about it. |
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| Monday September 29 11:44:37 2003 Re: Texas Chainsaw Massacre |
| LV wrote:
> > Before anybody has a stroke, one might want to stop and > consider the source of this "heads up". > NoMan??? The screening I went to was in Boston on Sunday. Well, what would you like to know? I would be happy to give a point by point description of the film, but of you want that, let me know and I'll throw it on the Anything Goes page. For right now, I can tell you that the reason that there is no scene like the original is that the family dinner scene (which is when the treatment occurs in the original) does not even occur in this one. SPOILERS: To bring her back to the house, they drug her drink. No need to restrain her, or so they think. Besides, why would I try to trick people by saying there is no scene? |
| NoMan |
| Monday September 29 13:30:39 2003 Re: Kill Bill |
| "Does anyone remember the context in which Uma's character is said to get the treatment in KB? She takes a bullet in the head but is apparently not gagged when that happens.Before that perhaps?"
I read an early draft for the script a while ago. Unfortunately, it looks like her scene won't occur until Kill Bill pt. 2. However, as I remember Michael Madsen knocks out Uma Thurman and we see her bound and cleave gagged later on in the bed of a pick up, about to be buried alive. This occurs in the latter half of the script, so don't expect to see anything this October when part 1 is released(though it would be nice if it had a preview of part 2 with a shot of Uma gagged) |
| Jimmy Death |
| Monday September 29 13:44:44 2003 As The World Turns Scene |
| A while ago there was a nice clip (nice at least for non-gag snobs) up on G-MaN's site , a scene from August 19 from the show, with Terri Conn.
I made a DB entry based on the clip (entry 9054) Today I found some Moviefan caps that looks kinda similar-at least our heroine wears (almost) the same clothes. I made a search for ATWT in discussion, there were several posts mentioning it since aug 19: Seems Allison (Conn) was stripped of the loosely buttoned shirt- it was used to tie her hands in front at one point, later she was handcuffed, and on sept 15 we find her tied to a chair above a bomb.(Last MF cap I think) (Also there were several posts regarding non-gag-clauses :o) ) I would like to add to the entry since it looks like one long scene. My problem is I haven't seen the show (doesn't air here). If someone could provide a (brief please) description of the relevant storyline?. You can see caps from the aug 19 clip and the MF caps on the homepage. (PS I hope Ms Conn had time to get her clothes washed in that month, maybe during commercials?) |
| Per |
| http://homepage.mac.com/perk99/PhotoAlbum7.html |
| Monday September 29 13:48:00 2003 Re: Kerhop's Kaptures has returned... |
| Snowcat wrote:
> GREAT News!!! > Welcome back Hoppy...you were missed I echo these sentiments. Welcome back! I also noted the subtle change in address (derekbarker.com -> derekbarkers.com). Bookmarkers take note! |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Monday September 29 14:15:48 2003 What irks me |
| is when the database says "bound and gagged" with no further details, as it did for "The Adventures of Don Coyote". But then I found this pic and mentioned it on the database corrections page. She's not just bound and gagged, she's bound and gagged old-school! Ropework may be minimal, but the ropes are at least in the important places, while the gag is the large OTM I like so much.
I clipped out the putz in the pic. To see the original (for whatever reason), just remove the "2" in the homepage link. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/6050/bd-chr-donco2.jpg |
| Monday September 29 14:16:15 2003 Re: One Favour Martin |
| Jay L wrote:
> Ask in future, that you'd post title same as IMDB > > Warrior Queen (2003) aka Boudica Apologies Jay. Quite honestly here in the UK it has only been advertised in magazines etc and indeed on the credits of the actual programme itself as 'Boudica', with ne'er a mention of 'Warrior Queen'. I thus was not aware of any alternative title. Again, apologies. |
| Martin |
| Monday September 29 14:24:13 2003 Could someone identify? |
| Another pic from "blackandwhitebound" that I like. The tree trunk is too wide to tie the lady's hands together right behind it, but that didn't dissuade these guys! The scene is listed as "Unknown" however. Could someone identify where it's from?
It's also difficult to tell if that's a cleave or a thin OTM. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/6050/bd-treebehind.jpg |
| Monday September 29 16:15:32 2003 TCM DVD |
| Just to let everyone know, Tuesday October 14th (which is the Tuesday before the new TCM opens) a delux directors edition of the original TCM will be released in stores. Tobe Hopper (the director of the first two movies) was the direct overseer of this version of the DVD. If I am not mistaken, it is going to be two discs, probably containing lots of behind the scenes and extra footage. Can't promise anything, but at least something to look forward to. |
| Tripper |
| Monday September 29 16:21:18 2003 Re: Could someone identify? |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> Another pic from "blackandwhitebound" that I > like. Whats the URL for "blackandwhitebound"? I keep getting a document not found. Thanks Tom |
| Tom Davis |
| yfc7@hotmail.com |
| Monday September 29 16:24:50 2003 Re: As The World Turns Scene |
| Great job on the slideshow Per!!
Whats nice about the tie up was that she was wearing open toe sandals. Made me happy :)! |
| Tom Davis |
| yfc7@hotmail.com |
| Monday September 29 16:44:27 2003 List Of DVDs |
| Out of curiousity what was the latest DVDs you purchased due to a scene? I got Avengers '68. Everytime I go to the store I draw a blank. |
| Monday September 29 16:48:54 2003 Long Shot on LAS VEGAS Tonight |
| Here's an excerpt from NBC's blurb for tonight's LAS VEGAS episode:
"...Elsewhere, Mary (Nikki Cox) settles in into her new position as hotel special events coordinator while attempting to control an actor taking his role as King Arthur in the dinner show to heart as he believes Ed to be Merlin reborn..." So, will "King Arthur" decide Mary is a suitable Damsel for the staging of his Medieval DiD fantasies??? Okay, okay, I'm *REALLY* grasping at straws here... but it's an excuse to post a picture of Nikki Cox!!! {Sigh} :-) |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Monday September 29 16:58:12 2003 Re: Could someone identify? |
| Tom Davis wrote:
> Jazz411 wrote: > > > Another pic from "blackandwhitebound" that > I > > like. > > Whats the URL for "blackandwhitebound"? > I keep getting a document not found. > > Thanks > Tom Sorry, should have been more clear. It's a Yahoo Group - sort of like a community. You need to sign up with Yahoo to join it, but it's free and painless. Anyway, follow the URL below, sign up, then check out the photo section. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blackandwhitebound |
| Monday September 29 18:14:53 2003 Re: Long Shot on LAS VEGAS Tonight |
| Van wrote:
> So, will "King Arthur" decide Mary is a > suitable Damsel for the staging of his Medieval DiD > fantasies??? Okay, okay, I'm *REALLY* grasping at straws > here... Van, you need to calm down or you are going to drive yourself crazy every Monday night! |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday September 29 18:16:26 2003 Re: List Of DVDs |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Out of curiousity what was the latest DVDs you purchased > due to a scene? I got Avengers '68. Everytime I go to the > store I draw a blank. Great question for the community... As for myself, I got seasons 1 & 2 of Angel on DVD. The first season has all time favorite scene. Charisma Carpenter in her succulent prime(IMHO)getting bound and tightly cleave gagged(very very tightly) with lots of expression and squirming as she is captured, taunted, and finally rescued. The second season has another good Charisma scene with her getting enslaved in the season finale story arc. This is great scene also(though I like Cordy as stunning brunette). She is gagged onscreen with a nice white strip of cloth. She is collared(though she is ungagged by then) and made into a slave. It's actually a pretty funny scene too played for laughs. I especially love it when she gets indignant about the cheap barter for her. She exclaims a gagged "what?" when a demon calls her an "ugly cow". Classic...just classic |
| Paco The Bandit |
| Monday September 29 18:26:37 2003 Re: Long Shot on LAS VEGAS Tonight |
| Tapemaster wrote:
> Van wrote: > > > So, will "King Arthur" decide Mary is a > > suitable Damsel for the staging of his Medieval DiD > > > fantasies??? Okay, okay, I'm *REALLY* grasping at > straws > > here... > > Van, you need to calm down or you are going to drive > yourself crazy every Monday night! Hey you never know where a scene might pop up. I remember when Nikki got it on that horrible WB sitcom. It took me completely by surprise to see her tied spreadeagled and ballgagged. I think she will give us a scene if this series last the full season. How about a scene with Nikki and Vanessa Marcil bound and gagged back to back in a casino utility closet...damn I getting unhealthy urges!!! |
| Paco The Bandit |
| Monday September 29 19:44:29 2003 Re: Long Shot on LAS VEGAS Tonight |
| Tapemaster wrote:
> Van, you need to calm down or you are going to drive > yourself crazy every Monday night! Where Nikki's concerned, it's a *really* *short* *drive*! (...& Paco agrees!) :-} |
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| Monday September 29 20:13:42 2003 Re: Kerhop's Kaptures has returned... |
| Kerhop wrote:
> Moderator, this is a one-time posting to the general > forum. Announcements regarding associated sites data back to the early days of the forum. Currently they are perfectly on-topic. Discussion of these sites is not, other than "attaboy" type comments. |
| The Moderator |
| Monday September 29 20:26:55 2003 Re: As The World Turns Scene |
| Per wrote:
> Today I found some Moviefan caps that looks kinda > similar-at least our heroine wears (almost) the same > clothes. There was a previous scene with her some time back. Check the link below for description/cap and make sure it is distinct. |
| Brian R |
| http://brianspage.com/ezine/issue-2.2/reviews/atwt.shtml |
| Monday September 29 20:40:20 2003 Re: What irks me |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> is when the database says "bound and gagged" > with no further details, as it did for "The > Adventures of Don Coyote". Many of these came about by people putting in the lists from compilation tapes (notably Brent's). As such, there was no other information to add. This being an old scene, that's almost suredly the source of the one you mention. It was decided that it was important to get the scene in as a basis for future upgrade and was done with my approval, mostly by David. Later, due to complaints like yours, a note was added to new ones that indicated the source of the information. |
| Brian R |
| Monday September 29 20:46:33 2003 Re: Texas Chainsaw Massacre |
| NoMan wrote:
> Besides, why would I try to trick people by saying there is no scene? Your post happens to fit a certain profile. Person posting with a name not seen here before posts that a scene does or doesn't take place. Your name has a rather Agatha Christie-like ring to it (U.N. Owen anyone?) It's called trolling. Happens here on more than rare occasions. Some people overreact when an obvious DiD situation doesn't pan out. Plenty of people think we're sick for enjoying scenes with women tied up, and get pleasure out of stirring up some of the people here ("Hey! Let's make fun of the retards!"). Your post seemed to be starting to have that effect until I threw some water on it, so to speak. On the other hand, maybe you are genuine. If that turns out to be so, I will certainly admit my error and offer an apology. Question for you: In your original post, you called the script that detailed the bondage sceness a fake. Why would someone take all the time to create a fake script to post on an internet site? It's a lot easier to create a fake alert. |
| LV |
| Monday September 29 21:09:07 2003 Re: Texas Chainsaw Massacre |
| LV wrote:
> Plenty of people think we're sick for enjoying scenes > with women tied up, and get pleasure out of stirring up > some of the people here ("Hey! Let's make fun of the > retards!"). Your post seemed to be starting to have > that effect until I threw some water on it, so to speak. *reaches for Towel to dry off from water* LMAO it was def having that effect on me (but I don't FEEL Tardy...lol) I can't believe how pissed i sounded in my post I guess we'll all see... I weally weally hope that "Noman" is a troll BTW Van I hope Nikki Cox has a scene tonight just for you buddy ;) We need someone to do a TV Batman series...she is SO Barbara Gordon/BATGIRL OMG Van!!! picture NIKKI COX AS BATGIRL... waits for Van's head to explode |
| Snowcat |
| Monday September 29 21:44:47 2003 Re: What irks me |
| Brian R wrote:
> It was decided that it was important to get the > scene in as a basis for future upgrade and was done > with my approval, mostly by David. Later, due to > complaints like yours, a note was added to new ones > that indicated the source of the information. Incredible. I didn't know there was such a history behind it. I did notice websites selling tapes would simply list a bunch of movie/TV names and say "(B)", "(B/G)", etc next to them to indicate content. It makes sense. I can see why it's important to put the "placeholder" entries there, as they might inspire people to check out the movie in question and see if there's anything more to add. Thanks for the explanation. I was just making a throwaway comment, but your explanation is much appreciated. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Monday September 29 22:04:10 2003 Re: Texas Chainsaw Massacre |
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> Question for you: In your original post, you called the > script that detailed the bondage sceness a fake. > Why would someone take all the time to create a fake > script to post on an internet site? > It's a lot easier to create a fake alert. Well, I see it one of two ways. 1. That was indeed, a genuine early draft for the remake which was abandoned for the new one. 2. Someone heard about the remake, saw the trailer, and decided to try and write a script to put everything in context (much like those fanfics, I think that's what they are called). You have no idea how incredibly excited I was when I read that script, but from the moment the film started, I realized, oh crap, it was wrong. If you have read the script that had the scenes, head over to Anything Goes and I will give you a detailed synopsis. Oh, and I completely understand about your fear of me as a troll. I only post when I think I have something of interest, but that is very, very rarely. Hope that helps you understand. But like I said, summary is on Anything Goes to explain. My apologies, Mr. Moderator, as I am certain I have taken this off topic by now. |
| NoMan |
| Monday September 29 22:05:16 2003 Re: 1-800-Missing scene |
| Pat Powers wrote:
> though the scene was brief, it had some nice elements -- > frex, the damsel's hands were tied behind, and she was > put in a kneeling position by her captor (I think a brief > carry may have been involved, don't remember offhand). So > although brief, visually very dramatic. I caught the scene last night, and agree the scene was a good bit nicer that I expected. In addition, to the above elements, I would add that the mmmphing was pretty good, especially for such a short scene. |
| mornad |
| mornad4@yahoo.com |
| Monday September 29 22:15:32 2003 Re: Long Shot on LAS VEGAS Tonight |
| > Hey you never know where a scene might pop up. I remember
> when Nikki got it on that horrible WB sitcom. It took me > completely by surprise to see her tied spreadeagled and > ballgagged. Umm...BALLgagged? I wish. It was a great scene and all, but it was a cleave gag. Maybe if we wish hard enough all together, we'll get a ballgag scene this year. Everybody with me? Start wishing.....NOW! |
| Tom |
| Monday September 29 23:39:26 2003 Re: What are these? |
| > Per wrote:
> > Nr 2, 3 and 5 from upper left still unidentified No. 2 is Rose McGowan from Charmed, Ep. Baby's First Demon, and No. 5 is Leonor Varela from the movie Texas Rangers which starred Dylan McDermott, Tom Skerrit and the kid who played Dawson on Dawson's Creek. |
| Holden |
| Monday September 29 23:43:07 2003 Re: 1-800-Missing scene |
| >mornad wrote:
> Pat Powers wrote: > > though the scene was brief, it had some nice > elements -- > > although brief, visually very dramatic. > I caught the scene last night, and agree the scene was a > good bit nicer that I expected. In addition, to the > above elements, I would add that the mmmphing was pretty > good, especially for such a short scene. Maybe it's just me, and the fact I feel like I havn't seen a really good scene in a long, long time, and despite everyone's comments, which I respect, this scene felt "rushed", like the director just wanted to get it over with, like it had little to do with the very long build up and mystery. I will never understand how directors can pass up opportunities like this and I don't agree that non did "fans" see a did scene as just another scene; I believe anyone who is a visual creative and has any sense of the way adventure and fantasy works knows the power and importance of these scenes (which is why they almost always occur in the last 5 minutes). I don't want to even entertain for a moment why this may be so because it is just so convoluted and politically muddled; I'm just so bored with weak scenes; sorry for bitching. |
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