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Wednesday September 10 03:46:40 2003
Access problem
What is the problem with this page?
Wednesday September 10 04:34:06 2003
Oprah in shackles!
I hope I didn't get people too excited, because it's not as good as it sounds, but it's something. On Oprah, Tue 09/09/03 she did an episode called "The Best Money I Ever Spent" which was comprised of interviews with various folks who has invested their money in enterprises for the public good. One segment was about a man who was horrified by slavery and how the sheer brutality of it had been whitewashed in history, and built a museum dedicated to it. He brought some of the artifacts to her show. (shackles, whips, branding irons, etc.) Oprah held a set of shackles and tried them on. Yeah, she could slip right out and all that, but it's better than nothing. BTW, Oprah was once in more modern style handcuffs once in "The Color Purple." After her character was beaten up by a racist mob, and she was brought in to the police station for assault (Remember, this was the old South.) she was in handcuffs, but this scene was in darkness, so it is rather difficult to see the cuffs. You have to step frame by frame to really see them.
TV Critic
Wednesday September 10 09:21:58 2003
DB problem
DB search only return 1 record #9075
Is there anything wrong with the Database?
Wednesday September 10 11:02:13 2003
Re: sexiest chair-ties ever?
> What do you guys think are some of the sexiest scenes
> with damsels tied to chairs?

Obvious answer
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/ABearCalledArthur/ABearCalledArthur14.jpg
Wednesday September 10 11:53:26 2003
Jake 2.0
New York Times review of Jake 2.0 says the female lead is kidnapped, tied to a chair and gagged in the debut.
peril lover
Wednesday September 10 12:53:25 2003
2 HUGE REQUESTS, IF POSSIBLE...
1) Christine Taylors short scene from HEY DUDE.

2) Amy Jo Johnson from the recent Hallmark flick, HARD GROUND.

Thanks so much in advance.

CC
CC
Wednesday September 10 13:00:33 2003
Re: Jake 2.0
peril lover wrote:

> New York Times review of Jake 2.0 says the female lead is
> kidnapped, tied to a chair and gagged in the debut.

Now if only all the other new shows can copy this show's excellent writing team.
Wednesday September 10 13:01:23 2003
Re: Sexiest Chair Ties
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> What about "Last Innoncent Man" (#681) with
> excellent
> cleave gag?

That scene was very poorly lit and only a second or two in duration, 1 camera angle, ... it was a waste, considering the effort the actress had to put into it, we didn't see squat.

>:(

DHT
Wednesday September 10 13:10:12 2003
Marina Black
Interview with sexy Marina Black is on the UPN Web site. Toward the end, she says "I can't think of 5 words to describe the show......It's a great show. That's 3 words, right?"

Actually, that's 4 words, but since you're bound and gagged tonight we'll let it go.

She could have said "bound and gagged." 3 words.
http://www.upn.com/shows/jake/cast_02.shtml
Wednesday September 10 14:02:36 2003
Re: Access problem
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> What is the problem with this page?

Another disk crash on the host side, files corrupted,
looking at retrieval possibilities. The database is down
until further notice. New messages will post fine, we'll
see about getting back lost ones.

The Engineer
Wednesday September 10 15:44:42 2003
SMALLVILLE correction

"Witness" did have the scene described in DB entry 8799 ... but Annette O'Toole wasn't gagged. I'll update the entry once the DB's operational again.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Wednesday September 10 15:45:14 2003
As the World Turns Update
Katie spends a little time today in cuffs. First she has one hand cuffed to a chair then after the villain locks the boyfriend in the basement he cuffs her hand beind her and takes her away.
G-MaN
Wednesday September 10 16:01:11 2003
'The Cut'
Has anyone read the book 'In the Cut' which Meg Ryan's new movie is based on ...from what I've read about it on the net...the plot has big S&M, bondage potential and the female director has done lots with this kind of theme in the past.
Every review I've read only refers to it as an 'erotic thriller'
Wednesday September 10 16:10:26 2003
Re: Jake 2.0
peril lover wrote:

> New York Times review of Jake 2.0 says the female lead is
> kidnapped, tied to a chair and gagged in the debut.

The review is odd due to the exact details of the scene. It says "Sarah is kidnapped, apparently cholorformed and gagged with a clean white strip of fabric."

Reviewer ends with a positive summary. Another good review for this show, which hopefully UPN can take advantage of. The voiceovers should say "TV Guide says.....The N.Y. Times says....."
Wednesday September 10 17:32:35 2003
Crash recovery status
1. The database is restored and should be up to date and functional. If you see anything funny, post in DB Corrections or email.

2. The lost messages are lost for good, sorry. They only back up once a week or so. I'm trying to come up with a backup scheme of my own for the future.

3. At least a few of the lost messages were Alerts. If you posted an alert some time in the past few days, check on it. It doesn't matter what day it was FOR, but rather what day it was actually posted.

The Engineer
Wednesday September 10 17:54:23 2003
Jake 2.0---Further Corroboration
Here's an excerpt from the upn.com episode blurb:

...Jake must use his wits and newfound, untried abilities to save his long-time crush, Sarah Heywood (Marina Black), now working as a Washington, D.C., congressional staffer, from IRA kidnappers who want the experimental nanites bonded to Jake's system.

By the way, the image below is Marina/Sarah. (Not bad for a non-redhead!) :-)
http://www.upn.com/shows/jake/images/cast_pic_02.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Wednesday September 10 18:29:23 2003
Re: Jake 2.0
> > New York Times review of Jake 2.0 says the female
> lead is kidnapped, tied to a chair and gagged in the >debut.
>
> The review is odd due to the exact details of the scene.
> It says "Sarah is kidnapped, apparently cholorformed
> and gagged with a clean white strip of fabric."
>
> Reviewer ends with a positive summary.

Wow, what an amazing stroke of luck for us; a new, hot show with cool special effects, a popular young star; and to think, they could have picked any concept for the first episode and they picked the kidnapping and binding of his hot blonde girlfriend, and most likely her rescue. Wonders never cease. (Note: heavy irony).
Wednesday September 10 19:08:58 2003
Re: Jake 2.0---Further Corroboration
>>>>>By the way, the image below is Marina/Sarah. (Not bad
> for a non-redhead!) :-)<<<<

??? She sure looks like a blonde to me...
the Greyman
Wednesday September 10 19:19:34 2003
New Novel
A new novel titled "Politics" by Adam Thirlwell apparently has an opening bondage scene. Description at the link below.
Fiery Frederick
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2003/09/07/bosex.xml&sSheet=/arts/2003/09/07/bomain.html
Wednesday September 10 19:39:50 2003
Re: Jake 2.0---Further Corroboration
the Greyman wrote:

> >>>>>By the way, the image below is
> Marina/Sarah. (Not bad
> > for a non-redhead!) :-)<<<<
>
> ??? She sure looks like a blonde to me...

non- A prefix meaning "not." Therefore, "non-redhead" means "not a redhead." A blonde is "not a redhead;" therefore, a blonde is a "non-redhead." In other words... she looks like a non-redhead to me. :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Wednesday September 10 20:23:47 2003
Von Ryan's Express
Von Ryan's Express (Raffaella Carra bound and gagged) just started at 8:00 pm eastern time on American Movie Classics (AMC.)
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday September 10 20:52:11 2003
Pat Priest gag photo
This post was deleted.

Poster: Ron
Reason: Off-topic. Personal requests for caps etc. are not allowed. Use the trade page.
The Moderator
Wednesday September 10 21:39:51 2003
Re: Jake 2.0
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > > New York Times review of Jake 2.0 says the
> female
> > lead is kidnapped, tied to a chair and gagged in
> the >debut.
> >
> > The review is odd due to the exact details of the
> scene.
> > It says "Sarah is kidnapped, apparently
> cholorformed
> > and gagged with a clean white strip of
> fabric."
> >
> > Reviewer ends with a positive summary.
>
> Wow, what an amazing stroke of luck for us; a new, hot
> show with cool special effects, a popular young star; and
> to think, they could have picked any concept for the
> first episode and they picked the kidnapping and binding
> of his hot blonde girlfriend, and most likely her rescue.
> Wonders never cease. (Note: heavy irony).

A bit more of a wonder is that the blonde kidnappee is NOT his girlfriend. She is just a "friend" from college who is now working in DC, same as him. I doubt any show debut has ever had a female other than a wife/girlfriend/daughter/sister of the hero get kidnapped, bound, and gagged.

And for you West Coast folks who only want to catch the b&g scene, it's in the last 20 minutes.
Wednesday September 10 21:55:41 2003
Jake 2.0
For west coasters, the action starts within the last 12 minutes. Start recording after the return from the commercial break.

She SLEPT throughout the whole scene!!!
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday September 10 22:02:41 2003
trigger tv
did that Trigger Happy TV scene ever materialize that was supposed to air tonite?
Wednesday September 10 22:05:17 2003
Re: Jake 2.0


> She SLEPT throughout the whole scene!!!

Despite that, it's a good scene: Tight cleve with a white hankie, and she's wearing boots. Sure it'd be nice there was some struggling, but the get a hit first time up.Let's hope for more as time goes by.
Historian
historian64@hotmail.com
Wednesday September 10 22:05:22 2003
Re: Jake 2.0
> She SLEPT throughout the whole scene!!!

I meant that in a negative way. However, fans of unconscious damsels should like it.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday September 10 22:10:22 2003
Jake 2.0 scene review
Well, I just saw the new "Jake 2.0 scene" and it was pretty good. The set-up to the scene was tense and exciting.The cleave gag was nice and filling for mainstream. The damsel was a cutie(though I prefer brunettes). The only negative IMHO was that she never wakes up from the (offscreen) chloroforming. I always like the distressed glances and mmphs of a damsel as the hero battles the villain for her rescue.
Overall, I did like the show's premise. It is entertaining and watchable,compared to the other shows on the UPN. I hope there are other scenes with other female leads(or sexy guest stars).
Paco The Bandit
Wednesday September 10 22:22:10 2003
Re: trigger tv
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> did that Trigger Happy TV scene ever materialize that
> was supposed to air tonite?

Yes, it aired. Don't know if it was dual feed or are happened by 9 EST. Very basic and long distance.

JH
Wednesday September 10 22:26:45 2003
Re: Jake 2.0 scene review
Paco The Bandit wrote:


> Overall, I did like the show's premise. It is
> entertaining and watchable,compared to the other shows on
> the UPN. I hope there are other scenes with other female leads(or sexy guest stars).

Nice review, Paco. I appreciate it. Now, does anyone know if/when UPN will repeat this episode? I know the WB often repeats shows, so I imagine UPN will also. Thanks in advance for any information.
Al
Wednesday September 10 22:56:20 2003
Re: Jake 2.0 scene review
Paco The Bandit wrote:

> Well, I just saw the new "Jake 2.0 scene" and
> it was pretty good.

Hopefully, next up Keegan Connor Tracy.
Wednesday September 10 23:12:04 2003
Re: trigger tv
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> did that Trigger Happy TV scene ever materialize that
> was supposed to air tonite?

Yes, it did. The scene is a "blink-and-you'll miss it" in the first 5-10minutes of the show.

MadFish
Wednesday September 10 23:29:24 2003
Jake 2.0 scene
The Jake 2.0 scene was rather gratuitous, given that the damsel was unconscious throughout. And the wrapping on the hand was very thorough -- looked like five neat coils of rope around her wrists, not the sloppy jobs you usually see. But her hands were tied in front.

The cloth cleave gag was a nice touch, a welcome relief from all the tape gags we've been seeing lately. And her ankles appeared to be tied together. I believe they were also crossed.

I'm not sure what to think about the scene. It didn't exactly break any new ground, though it's about the only prime-time full treatment scene we've encountered in ages.
Pat Powers
Wednesday September 10 23:51:57 2003
Re: Jake 2.0 scene
> I'm not sure what to think about the scene. It didn't
> exactly break any new ground, though it's about the only
> prime-time full treatment scene we've encountered in ages.

I loved the gag, but found the scene frustrating both because she was asleep and because there wasn't enough of it. Especially in the very first part, she was out of focus for too long. In the last part, she was just out of frame when it would have been nice to see her. When he was taking her gag off, they cut away for much of the process.

Frustrating, but still a nice white cleave gag.

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