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Saturday July 26 00:39:43 2003
Image on TDRL Page -- Can someone identify?
I was doing my nightly Internet rounds, which includes Slashdot, who linked to a site about a company called Threshold Digital Research Labs. I was going through the various screen grabs of stuff from their films, when I ran across this picture.

http://www.threshold-digital.com/visual-fx/fx3.php3

The spiders are of course the animated part... fortunately for the poor damsel. Can anyone identify what movie this is from?

As an aside, I think it's interesting that they picked that shot for one of the 20 or so sample images in that section of their site... might be one of "us" at work there...
A Lurker
Saturday July 26 01:34:17 2003
Re: SPUN Warning
Or you can rent it from a less squeamish video chain than BLOCKBUSTER as I did.
hallbird
Saturday July 26 01:40:15 2003
Re: SPUN Warning
Pat Powers wrote:

> The copy I have makes extensive use of digital blurring
> to obscure the damsel's naughty bits, which is very
> annoying.

I was wondering about that, I thought it looked odd in the cap Raffish posted here. I couldn't tell if she was nude, waering some flecsh colored coverings, or a trick of the light. I picked up a copy today but haven't had a chance to check it out. Unfortunately its the rated version.

At least the bondage wasn't obscured.
Anubis
Saturday July 26 01:42:14 2003
Re: Lois Lane bound and gagged... again
Tapemaster, I'm disappointed in you, how can you label this scene in it's truncated form a "great scene" even shown in it's entirety it's no more than a good scene in my opinion. I'm curious as to what about this scene makes it "great" in your mind rather than just good?
hallbird
Saturday July 26 02:20:23 2003
Re: Lois Lane bound and gagged... again
hallbird wrote:

> Tapemaster, I'm disappointed in you, how can you label
> this scene in it's truncated form a "great
> scene" even shown in it's entirety it's no more than
> a good scene in my opinion. I'm curious as to what about
> this scene makes it "great" in your mind rather
> than just good?
>

I'm not sure how you can be "disappointed" in someone for expressing their opinion on a quintessentially subjective topic, but in any event the sequence *is* the full meal deal to the best of my knowledge.

I was just rummaging through my archives this evening in search of "The Mystery of the Broken Statues" in its entirety for a friend, and came across "Night of Terror". I'd initially grabbed both during an ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN marathon on a local station in the mid '80s.

If "Statues" was complete, I'd have to think this ep was as well. There are three short scenes: Right after the thug finishes binding both women and leaves the room, a closer shot of Lois struggling, and Jimmy discovering them and releasing Lois.

If anyone has definite knowledge of additional material, please post the info at Corrections so it can be added to the DB entry.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Saturday July 26 06:32:42 2003
Re: Lois Lane bound and gagged... again
Biff wrote:

> hallbird wrote:
>
> > Tapemaster, I'm disappointed in you, how can you
> label
> > this scene in it's truncated form a "great
> > scene" even shown in it's entirety it's no more
> than
> > a good scene in my opinion. I'm curious as to what
> about
> > this scene makes it "great" in your mind
> rather
> > than just good?
> >

I watched the "Broken Statues" episode of "The Adventures of Superman" and I can aver that the episode was truncated, and that a scene with Phyllis Coates bound and gagged was excised. After the villains hustle the bound and gagged Miss Coates into a car, they must hold her down, so she remains out of sight of an airport employee questioning the intent of the men. This delectable scene wasn't shown in the recent broadcast.
Saturday July 26 06:34:58 2003
Kattu, Cot, Catamaran, Iket
On recent Word Power at Reader's Digest, they mention 3 words with the same root from Tamil:

Khatva: Sanskrit: to tie / to bind
Kattu (Tamil) - to tie / to bind..

Cot: a narrow bed especially made of canvas or collapsible frame or a baby's crib.
First encountered by British in India (1600s). From Kattu (Tamil)
Remember Sharon Stone scene?

Catamaran: Sailing vessels with two hulls held parallel by rigid frame. From Kattu and Maram (wood / log)
Remember Michelle Yeoh scene on "Tommorow Never Dies"?

In Malay / Tagalog / Java language: ikat / iket (to tie), remember iket website?

Any other scenes related to Cot or Catamaran?
Saturday July 26 07:58:31 2003
DVDs
Congrats to the contributors to the database. It has become an almost annoyingly reliable resource! I bring this up because yesterday I had my first pleasant surprise in quite a while -- a rerun of Sabrina in which the titular character was found, quite literally, caught in the web of her own deceipt. No gag, which is often (and understandably, from where I sit) the reason for omission of an otherwise interesting scene from the database. I will do my best to add this (and a holy grail of mine, the Therese Kablan scene from High Tide) to the db after I post.

Being so comprehensive, though, it's almost depressing when you check a title or name against the db and come up empty, 'cause You just "know" that there probably ain't any good news in that event. But I'm definitely curious about extras in flicks with scenes to my liking: Charlie's Angels I and Small Soldiers, for example.

We've seen some discussion of DVD extras in "Big Trouble in Little China," for example, and other DVDs/Videos ("Scooby Doo") here. with a bonus or two for us. Do any of you heavy DVD renter/buyer guys think that DVD deleted/extended scenes are a potential gold mine, or just so much fool's gold? I'd appreciate your opinion, as I do the hard work and insight of the various contributors to this and related pages.
Not Brian
Saturday July 26 08:59:24 2003
High Tide
Not Brian wrote:

> Congrats to the contributors to the database. It has become an almost annoyingly reliable resource!... I will do my best to add this (and a holy grail of mine, the Therese Kablan scene from High Tide) to the db after I post.
--------
Thanks. According to IMDB.com, the former (original) "Star Search" Spokesmodel champion appeared in High Tide's "Beach Blanket Werewolf" (2.13) episode.

I don't recall Kablan's scene, but I do remember High Tide's biggest missed opportunity: Deborah Shelton. Her 2nd or 3rd season character was introduced as an ex-Secret Service agent who'd married a U.S. Senator, now a wealthy widow and the owner of the guys' PI agency. That would've provided two likely DiD storylines:

* She's kidnapped for ransom.
* With her Secret Service background, she insists on participating in an investigation. However, the villains get the drop on her (not the putzes), and b&g her.
Kinky-napper
Saturday July 26 12:25:53 2003
Re: High Tide
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Not Brian wrote:
>
> > Congrats to the contributors to the database. It has
> become an almost annoyingly reliable resource!... I will
> do my best to add this (and a holy grail of mine, the
> Therese Kablan scene from High Tide) to the db after I
> post.
> --------
> Thanks. According to IMDB.com, the former (original)
> "Star Search" Spokesmodel champion appeared in
> High Tide's "Beach Blanket Werewolf" (2.13)
> episode.
>
> I Good news and bad bews on the Therese Kaplan (High Tied) front.
I have that scene on one of my 50 + tapes :)
the quality isn't great but I'll do my best to find it
have NO IDEA when i can find it & how I can make it available to everyone but I'll TRY!!!
Snowcat
Saturday July 26 12:41:46 2003
what is the batting average
Since there is no discussion on Lara Croft, I take it nothing in it.
What does that make for the summer season so far O for?
Since nothing in Charlie's Angels, Terminator,or what else am I missing for the summer.
It has been very dry lately, although I feel as though something is going to pop really big
Saturday July 26 13:02:11 2003
Re: what is the batting average
> It has been very dry lately, although I feel as though
> something is going to pop really big

If you're talking about just first run summer movies, I don't think they've ever been a good source.

However, Texas Chainsaw is less than 3 months away. Jessica Biel is apparently held captive at one point. In the original, they didn't have to gag Marylyn Burns but they did anyway; one would think because it makes the scene more intense. In the original, there was no one left to rescue the girl, but they felt the need to gag her in the house.

I'll bet in this one there will be someone coming to the rescue; all the more reason for a gag.
Saturday July 26 14:19:32 2003
This week's update
This week, let's go to the movies: Krista Carpenter in Murder By Numbers, Ellen Drew and Jane Wyman in My Favorite Spy, Fann Wong in Shanghai Knights, Chloe Hunter in Spun, and Christine Sunford, Jessica Biel, and Vanessa Zima in Ulee's Gold.
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/0725.jpg
Raffish
raffish@abductor.com
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/
Saturday July 26 14:20:16 2003
Re: Lois Lane bound and gagged... again
(unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> I watched the "Broken Statues" episode of
> "The Adventures of Superman" and I can aver
> that the episode was truncated, and that a scene with
> Phyllis Coates bound and gagged was excised. After the
> villains hustle the bound and gagged Miss Coates into a
> car, they must hold her down, so she remains out of sight
> of an airport employee questioning the intent of the men.
> This delectable scene wasn't shown in the recent broadcast.
>

Actually, it was a cop asking if they needed help with their car ... I just watched the scene off an archive tape and updated the DB entry.

Hallbird was referring to the "Night of Terror" ep ... the scene above has indeed been excised from both the TV LAND and the old NICK AT NITE sister network airings. The only time I've seen it was during that local station marathon way back when.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Saturday July 26 14:21:10 2003
Re: Lois Lane bound and gagged... again
> There are three short scenes:
> Right after the thug finishes binding both women and
> leaves the room, a closer shot of Lois struggling, and
> Jimmy discovering them and releasing Lois.
>
> If anyone has definite knowledge of additional material,
> please post the info at Corrections so it can be added to the DB entry.

IIRC, Biff's description covers the Night of Terror episode's scenes. However, it has been a while since I have seen this episode, so I am going on recollection from many years ago.

IMO, Night of Terror is a TV classic from the early days of television. While I would agree that there are better scenes out there, I would describe it as a great scene or series of scenes for several reasons. First, the scene aired back in 1951, and, IIRC, is the first two-damsel full treatment scene to air in a U.S. TV series. Hence, the scene is the first of a relatively rare category of multi-damsel scenes. In addition, there was decent struggling by Ms. Coates, and the episode's action turned back to the damsel's several, something that was not all that common back when the scene originally aired. Sure the scenes could have been longer, and the gag could have been a little more effectively looking. However, despite these criticisms, it is a classic.

On a personal note, I think Night of Terror was the second time I had ever seen women B&G'd, when I saw a rerun of the episode as a kid in the mid 1960's. For this reason, the epiodes scenes have special meaning for me personally.
mornad
mornad4@yahoo.com
Saturday July 26 14:45:38 2003
Virtual Prey
Update posted on AG for those interested since it was talked about a lot here last year.
Saturday July 26 15:35:34 2003
Re: Lois Lane bound and gagged... again
mornad wrote:

> IMO, Night of Terror is a TV classic from the early days
> of television...

Also, Coates was quite beautiful. I would have loved it if she'd stuck around for the whole series and gotten all those later scenes, rather than the far less attractive (imho)and fairly static Noell Neill.
Coates would have been great in the railroad tracks scene.
LV
Saturday July 26 15:40:46 2003
Trace Magazine Cover - Mya
Hi!

Does anybody have a larger version of the cover photo of the june 2003 issue of "Trace Magazine", which has Mya a nice outfit/gag combination???
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xanatol/boundsingers/mya-trace_issue44-01.jpg
Xanatol
xanatol_chan
http://www.boundsingers.net.ms
Saturday July 26 16:40:16 2003
Update
FUZZ always asks - what kind of demented PERVERT would put this stuff on the web.........?

..the ONE and ONLY answer - Major John, OF COURSE !!!!!!!!!!111

Update is complete - enjoy LADS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS: I've given in to the tape gag fans for this one.....
http://fuzzweb.org/titleb.jpg
Major_John
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
http://www.fuzzweb.org
Saturday July 26 17:11:03 2003
Re: Power Rangers Ninja Storm
>later in the ep is shown with hands tied.


Does anyone know when it will air again? Or maybe some more caps of this or any of the other ladies from the different shows?
Doug
Saturday July 26 21:28:33 2003
the foreighner
The movei the foreighner with the real mother and daughter bound and gagged is on I think the USA channel in a week or so. I am not sure I just saw the preview and I checked here. It is the movie. I am watching Apallo 13 and it was on that channel.
me
Saturday July 26 22:11:36 2003
Tomb Raider 2
The scene in the new Lara Croft movie was discussed a couple of weeks ago (or thereabouts)--she and her male companion are captured by Chinese criminals and their wrists are bound in front with thick rope; Lara frees herself a few minutes later in a fight sequence.
Rich McGill
Saturday July 26 22:27:54 2003
Re: Lois Lane bound and gagged
Tapemaster wrote:

> The VCR alert said that the time for this episode would
> be 7:00 am Pacific time. However, that can't be right
> because TV Land's pacific time broadcast is the same as
> the eastern time broadcast, just 3 hours later. In other
> words, it will be shown on the east coast at 4:00 am
> eastern time and on the west coast at 4:00 am pacific time.

That sounds correct-- it's important to double-check any entries you find in the VCR alerts just to be sure we've got it right. I usually put in time info. based on my own local listings, which are not always the same as everyone else's. I try to be accurate, but strange things happen & it's good to make sure. You can check your own local listings or go to tvguide.com.

PRW
Saturday July 26 22:42:06 2003
Re: DVDs
Not Brian wrote:

> We've seen some discussion of DVD extras in "Big
> Trouble in Little China," for example, and other
> DVDs/Videos ("Scooby Doo") here. with a bonus
> or two for us. Do any of you heavy DVD renter/buyer guys
> think that DVD deleted/extended scenes are a potential
> gold mine, or just so much fool's gold?

For the most part, as far as our hobby is concerned, the DVD deleted/extended scenes have not panned out very well. But that's not really anyone's fault-in most cases, there just aren't that many extra DiD scenes to put on the DVD. Most movies don't have "lost" b&g footage that is available.

I'm thinking of the DVD for "House Arrest." If I were doing it, I would have included the TV ad that featured a movie audience with several people b&g. The ad isn't on the DVD (at least it's not listed on the back), and that's too bad, but we're probably the only ones who would miss something like that.

Obviously there are exceptions -like Scooby Doo, as you mentioned- and there hopefully will be more extra DVD footage like that in the future.

PRW
Saturday July 26 22:50:37 2003
Momentum alert
Cute blonde shows up cuffed hands in front in Momentum at about the 1:40 minute mark. Don't know if there was more before that, or if there will be more after. Brief scene, if that's all there is it's for completists or fans of the actress only.
Pat Powers

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