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Thursday July 17 04:57:52 2003
Re: The Hitcher 2 - Total Waste Of Time
The Greyman wrote:

> Not so for Fann Wong in Shanghai Knights. Several good
> shots of her gagged in the last 3rd of the movie.

I knew it! To paraphrase Debbie on Sealab 2021: "My video store sucks. It absolutely sucks."

Can't even get frickin' Shanghai Knights. I swear.
Raffish
Thursday July 17 07:09:21 2003
Re: Lynda Carter scene
Brian R wrote:

> perilousgrl wrote:
>
> > Well, I wasn't asking if it was in the database, I
> was
> > asking if anyone had seen it,
>
> Then you should make it clear that you have already read
> the database entry. Your question was very vague,
> because
> you only asked if anyone remembered it.

Be that as it may, I think I DO remember the scene in question. I find that remarkable because it aired only once in Germany, and that must have been 20 years ago. I think it was named "Frau in Gefahr" over here (Woman In Peril).
I never knew that Lynda was the damsel, though. Probably because I have never seen much of WW.

What the DB entry doesn't say is that the villain chose this complicated way to interrogate the damsel, but did a bad job when he tied her arms. If we are talking about the same scene, in the end Lynda frees herself and escapes.

Peter de K
Thursday July 17 07:50:09 2003
Futuristic Sci-Fi two-way blindfold wanted
I've noticed that among the unaesthetic creations of some futuristic/sci-fi shows is a DiD restrained in "Force field bands" or glowing "pain harnesses". Instead of something low-tech, but effective, such as handcuffs/rope/leather cuffs.

Like some other Gag-snobs/fans, I think a gag accentuates the damsel's eyes (visualize your favorite mainstream b&g scene), I generally dislike seeing a damsel blindfolded because it covers her aforementioned eyes/expressions.

So what I'd like to see from the world's inventive minds is a Blindfold made of a material that'd allow the evil captor to see the damsel's eyes, but prevent her from seeing out. Something more fashionable-looking than reversed mirrored lenses.

(And I'm still waiting for my Holodeck, inexpensive jet pack, and flying car.)
Kinky-napper
Thursday July 17 08:33:34 2003
Re: Futuristic Sci-Fi two-way blindfold wanted

> Like some other Gag-snobs/fans, I think a gag accentuates
> the damsel's eyes (visualize your favorite mainstream
> b&g scene), I generally dislike seeing a damsel
> blindfolded because it covers her aforementioned
> eyes/expressions.

True, gags and blindfolds are seldom employed together almost a quarter centruy elapsed between
"Macmillan & Wife" and "Charmed" showed Great B,G&B scenes
I contend that a blindfold hightens the sense of danger as the damsel is completely out of the loop.

> (And I'm still waiting for my Holodeck, inexpensive jet pack, and flying car.)

Doctor Pulaski nay have been long in the tooth, but civilized, schmivelized, Doctor M., ALWAYS B&G your captives.

Historian
historian64@hotmail.com
Thursday July 17 09:48:49 2003
Re: Futuristic Sci-Fi two-way blindfold wanted
Kinky-napper wrote:

> I've noticed that among the unaesthetic creations of some
> futuristic/sci-fi shows is a DiD restrained in
> "Force field bands" or glowing "pain
> harnesses". Instead of something low-tech, but
> effective, such as handcuffs/rope/leather cuffs.

I think the standard for movies and TV shows WRT futuristic bondage devices is, do they make the DiD look MORE bound or LESS bound? It's a lot more effective dramatically if the futuristic bondage makes the DiD look MORE helpless. Now, you can do handwaving about force fields and such, but the simple fact of the matter is that someone who is simply remaining still while in a "force field harness" LOOKS a lot less helpless than someone in a set of heavy manacles, no matter how much fanwank handwaving you do about the forcefield not permitting the DiD to even twitch. Frex, the "pain harness" in Birds of Prey -- what a joke.

I think TV and movie art directors, etc., could LEARN a LOT about visually dramatic bondage from the Poser artists who are plumbing the depths of their subconscious minds for some REALLY wild-ass bondage imagery that goes well beyond anything we've ever seen on TV or in the movies, though I'm pretty sure Farscape's art directors were on the same track, if not consciously borrowing from the Poser guys.

As for your two-way blindfold, I think it would tend to make the wearer look LESS helpless, because even though she is understood to be blind, she just wouldn't LOOK as blind as someone wearing a conventional blindfold. Perhaps a skilled actress could make it work by "acting" blind -- moving as if unable to see what's around her, moving her eyes around in ways a sighted person wouldn't, etc. But I'm kinda skeptical about the idea.
Pat Powers
Thursday July 17 10:13:08 2003
Bound, Blindfolded, and Gagged scenes
Historian wrote:
> True, gags and blindfolds are seldom employed together almost a quarter centruy elapsed between "Macmillan & Wife" and "Charmed" showed Great B,G&B scenes.
--------
I dunno if the "drought" has been that long. Kate Nelligan's onscreen B/B/G scene in "Terror Strikes the Class Reunion" was GREAT, IMO. A couple other B/B/G scenes that come to mind are Heather Medway in "Viper" and Stepfanie Kramer in Hunter ("The Legion - Part 2).



Kinky-napper
Thursday July 17 10:48:34 2003
Re: Futuristic Sci-Fi two-way blindfold wanted
Historian wrote:

> I contend that a blindfold hightens the sense of danger
> as the damsel is completely out of the loop.
>
I generally agree with what Kinky-napper said about wanting to see the damsel's eyes, but on occasion I think the blindfold makes the scene more exciting. My favorite example of this is the scene from The Mod Squad where Peggy Lipton was bound and gagged and blindfolded. In this case I think the blindfold accentuates her helplessness as she struggles to find the door to escape. One of my favorite scenes.

Mmmalph
Thursday July 17 11:35:44 2003
Re: Futuristic Sci-Fi two-way blindfold wanted
>almost a quarter centruy elapsed between
> "Macmillan & Wife" and "Charmed"
> showed Great B,G&B scenes
>

What about "A Touch of Frost"? Camille Coduri securely G&B with pink medical tape.
Mad Dan
Thursday July 17 11:40:42 2003
Bound, Blindfolded, and Gagged scenes
Historian wrote:
True, gags and blindfolds are seldom employed
together almost a quarter centruy elapsed between
"Macmillan & Wife" and "Charmed"
showed Great B,G&B scenes.
--------
I dunno if the "drought" has been that long.
Kate Nelligan's onscreen B/B/G scene in "Terror
Strikes the Class Reunion" was GREAT, IMO. A couple
other B/B/G scenes that come to mind are Heather Medway
in "Viper" and Stepfanie Kramer in Hunter
"The Legion - Part 2").
------
And also Lee Meriwether B/B/G onscreen in Barnaby Jones ("Hostage"). However, I can't recall if that episode included one of those classic Barnaby Jones "foot-chase scenes" (where Buddy Ebsen would "run down" some whippersnapper less than half his age). :-)

Yes, Peggy Lipton's Mod Squad ("The Hot, Hot Car") scene was terrific. I think a lot of Brian's Pagers would've liked to have played "Blindman's Bluff" w/ Julie Barnes too.




Kinky-napper
Thursday July 17 11:56:30 2003
Re: Wendy Padbury
I still regret the absence of VCRs when "Freewheelers" was transmitted. The scene I saw was superb - no clue about what was to happen until a door opened and the hero and heroine were hustled out. Here was one of the most mmmphogenic Who foxes very securely bound and tightly gagged after years of waiting. The camera zoomed in on the ropes as she was pushed into the back of a car.

The regagging was just as good, the bad guy tugging and snugging the scarf in tightly under Wendy's cheekbones.
Ahhh, those were the days!

Another ITV kids' show of the early '70s I know only from one ep; I never caught the name of it, but just happened upon it. The heroine entered a house looking for the hero and found him bound and OTM gagged under a bed. It looked very tight indeed, and she had trouble untying him. They were interrupted by the villainess, and a glass was broken in a struggle. They left with the bad gal in hot pursuit, leaving the glass shards on the floor.

At the end of the ep they were caught by the baddies, and we were left to anticipate the next week's shenannigans. Sadly, I never saw it, but so much had been made of that broken glass that a double tie-up was obviously on the cards. Anyone remember this show? What happened?
Mad Dan
Thursday July 17 12:03:41 2003
blindfold + gag
IIRC there is blindfold + gag scene on "My secret identity"?
Thursday July 17 12:12:17 2003
Re: blindfold + gag
Other nice scenes were Gina Philips in 'When The Bough Breaks', Peta Wilson in 'One of out Own', Laurette Spange in 'Chase', the scenes from Prime Suspect & Jonathon Creek as well as the movie 'Woman Hunt'.

Thursday July 17 12:14:40 2003
Re: blindfold + gag
Nice double scene at Biff's page. Any other scenes with mulitiple blindfolded/gagged DinD's?


http://community-2.webtv.net/unlikelysource/carita/
Thursday July 17 12:21:10 2003
Blindfold + Gag
(unsigned poster) wrote:
Other nice scenes were Gina Philips in 'When The Bough Breaks', Peta Wilson in 'One of out Own', Laurette Spange
in 'Chase', the scenes from Prime Suspect & Jonathon Creek as well as the movie 'Woman Hunt'.
-------------
Yes, I also liked the inventive scene in Jonathan Creek ("The Wrestler's Tomb").

It was an "exception that proves the rule" where the detective showed that the B/B/G damsel (Saskia Mulder) was really not so helpless after all. (But since semi-contortionism + a murder was involved, don't try recreating this one at home).

Kinky-napper
Thursday July 17 12:37:28 2003
Re: blindfold + gag
> Nice double scene at Biff's page. Any other scenes with
> mulitiple blindfolded/gagged DinD's?
>

Viva Maria, of course
Thursday July 17 13:26:41 2003
Re: Great Moments
In Links
http://neptune.spaceports.com/~queen/images/Card_Murderring6.jpg
Thursday July 17 14:52:03 2003
FUZZWEB
Update to FUZZWEB is complete. This time featuring BATWATCH. Enjoy
FUZZ
fzfamily@aol.com
http://fuzzweb.org
Thursday July 17 15:03:35 2003
Re: FUZZWEB
FUZZ wrote:

> Update to FUZZWEB is complete. This time featuring
> BATWATCH. Enjoy

Same BAT TIME, SAME BAT CHANNEL
Vince Grey
Thursday July 17 15:09:29 2003
Re: Bound, Blindfolded, and Gagged scenes / Fann Wong
> Historian wrote:
> True, gags and blindfolds are seldom employed
> together almost a quarter centruy elapsed between
> "Macmillan & Wife" and "Charmed"
> > showed Great B,G&B scenes.


There was an Interesting scene in Prime Suspect 5 that featured a blindfold and gag scene that is currently capped on my main page.

Cameron Diaz from A life Less Ordinary and Susan Haskell from Jag are 2 of my favorite scenes in tis catagory.

I've added some caps of the Fann Wong scene to my asian captive section.
Mark C
community.webtv.net/didcaps/entrance
Thursday July 17 15:18:51 2003
Interesting Site
Some pretty good vidcaps of some DinDs. Take a look around.
Canuck
http://www.nikescreamcaps.com/
Thursday July 17 15:54:51 2003
Re: FUZZWEB
Vince Grey wrote:

> FUZZ wrote:
>
> > Update to FUZZWEB is complete. This time featuring
> > BATWATCH. Enjoy
>
> Same BAT TIME, SAME BAT CHANNEL

That's BAYWATCH. Happens everytime that I get in a hurry. Enjoy
FUZZ
fzfamily@aol.com
http://fuzzweb.org
Thursday July 17 16:38:35 2003
Re: Bound, Blindfolded, and Gagged scenes
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Historian wrote:
> True, gags and blindfolds are seldom employed
> together almost a quarter centruy elapsed between
> "Macmillan & Wife" and "Charmed"
>
> showed Great B,G&B scenes.
> --------
> I dunno if the "drought" has been that long.
> Kate Nelligan's onscreen B/B/G scene in "Terror
> Strikes the Class Reunion" was GREAT, IMO. A couple
>
> other B/B/G scenes that come to mind are Heather Medway
> in "Viper" and Stepfanie Kramer in Hunter
> "The Legion - Part 2").

I'm astonished that no one has mentioned Roxanne Hart's unforgettable scene in "The Last Innocent Man", in which she is bound to a chair, blindfolded, and cleave-gagged so tightly that she must incessantly gasp for breath.



Hadji
Thursday July 17 19:30:47 2003
Re: Futuristic Sci-Fi two-way blindfold wanted
> As for your two-way blindfold, I think it would tend to
> make the wearer look LESS helpless, because even though
> she is understood to be blind, she just wouldn't LOOK as
> blind as someone wearing a conventional blindfold.
> Perhaps a skilled actress could make it work by
> "acting" blind -- moving as if unable to see
> what's around her, moving her eyes around in ways a > sighted person wouldn't, etc. But I'm kinda skeptical > about the idea.

Actually, I think the "one-way blindfold" would only be realistic if the girl's eyes were CLOSED, so it would be fairly easy for an actress to do that. In real life, when someone is wearing a blindfold, aren't their eyes generally closed? I know cloth rubbing against open eyeballs can tend to be a bit...irritating. Wouldn't a "one-way blindfold" follow the same path?

JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Thursday July 17 19:35:39 2003
"Romeo is Bleeding" question
Record number: 1455
Title: Romeo Is Bleeding (1993)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Lena Olin, Juliette Lewis

Description: A very sexy actress, Olin has her hands cuffed behind her back for a lengthy time. [SNIP]
Later, there's a brief scene where we see Lewis tied by the wrists with wire in front of a window and tape-gagged with white tape.

If I'm not mistaken, isn't Lewis's character dead when she is found tied & tape gagged, hanging in front of the window? Or near death, or gets killed (shot maybe?) very quickly after? I only saw this movie once, right after it came out, at a party, but I could have sworn Lewis was seen dead at least for part of her tape gag scene. Of course, the alcohol one consumes at your average social gathering may have had some effect on my perception! :-)
JP
JAPfeif@aol.com
Thursday July 17 20:33:04 2003
Re: Interesting Site
Canuck wrote:

> Some pretty good vidcaps of some DinDs. Take a look
> around.


I don't find that to be too helpful. Look where? What am
I looking for?

There are bunches and bunches of caps, most of them not
of interest to us. Are there any that are of unusual
ones, outside the run of the mill?


Brian R
Thursday July 17 21:20:41 2003
Supersleuths
This true crime documentary on TLC had a sequence at 8 p.m. EDT. The episode was about serial killer bobby Joe Long, but the sequence was on the waitress he brought back to his apartment, tied up and then acted as if they were a couple (yea, that works).
She is blindfolded, not gaged, bound wrists in front with rope, ankles tied, barefoot. She is shown several times in the seconf half-hour.
Frank J
skynyd@yahoo.com
http://www.freewebs.com/franksattic
Thursday July 17 22:08:56 2003
Re: Interesting Site
Brian R wrote:

> Canuck wrote:
>
> > Some pretty good vidcaps of some DinDs. Take a look
> > around.
>
>
> I don't find that to be too helpful. Look where?

I found it helpful in conjunction with your database in finding some relevant caps from Dark Angel and 24. Also, though I had read here that there was nothing of interest in Bug Buster, I could confirm there because the caps are pretty comprehensive. I intend to do more of both (the latter because "nothing of interest" often means "no gag," which is fine, I understand, hey, diff'rent strokes, but "no gag" doesn't mean "off-topic" so I like to double check).
Not Brian
Thursday July 17 22:11:34 2003
Re: Bound, Blindfolded, and Gagged scenes
Kinky-napper wrote:

> I dunno if the "drought" has been that long.
> Kate Nelligan's onscreen B/B/G scene in "Terror
> Strikes the Class Reunion" was GREAT, IMO. A couple
>
> other B/B/G scenes that come to mind are Heather Medway
> in "Viper" and Stepfanie Kramer in Hunter
> "The Legion - Part 2").
> ------
> And also Lee Meriwether B/B/G onscreen in Barnaby Jones
> ("Hostage"). However, I can't recall if that
> episode included one of those classic Barnaby Jones
> "foot-chase scenes" (where Buddy Ebsen would
> "run down" some whippersnapper less than half
> his age). :-)
>
> Yes, Peggy Lipton's Mod Squad ("The Hot, Hot
> Car") scene was terrific. I think a lot of Brian's
> Pagers would've liked to have played "Blindman's
> Bluff" w/ Julie Barnes too.

Obviously, I missed some of these. Though "Mod
Squad" predated "Mac Millian & Wife" by a few years. The "Mac M & W" scene was in the 1974-75 season. Jogging my memory, I believe Susan Haskell's was 1998 and the charmed scene was the next year.



Historian
historian64@hotmail.com
Thursday July 17 22:14:45 2003
Update: TJ Hooker & Father Dowling
Hi All,

Just updated my site w/ two cap sets: Heather Locklear & Kim Miyori in "TJ Hooker: Bloodsport", and Laura Leigh Hughes & Kari Lizer in "Father Dowling Mysteries: Substitute Sister Mystery". All four damsels silenced w/ white cleave gags.

Check it out & enjoy!
Dave
TTTDave@aol.com
http://www.geocities.com/traderdave42/home.html
Thursday July 17 22:15:53 2003
Re: "Romeo is Bleeding" question
> If I'm not mistaken, isn't Lewis's character dead when
> she is found tied & tape gagged, hanging in front of
> the window? Or near death, or gets killed (shot maybe?)
> very quickly after

Yes, you are correct JP. They show a very dark shot of Lewis, who is bound to a post or window or something (with a white tape gag) and wearing a wig, so that Gary Oldman will think it's Lena Olin and kill her. It works. He shoots her, only to find out that it's his girlfriend. She doesn't die immediately, but pretty quickly and IMHO, it's a very gruesome and not very appealing scene. Then again, I'm not really into death that much. Good movie though. Lena is evil!
Wavy
Thursday July 17 22:58:16 2003
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The first trailer for the new TCM is online at apple.com for those interested, the action sequences move at quick pace so its hard to get to much detail but there are some familiar scenes
Holden

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