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Sunday August 29 00:04:01 2004
Thought you all might find this interesting
This post was moved to The Bulletin Board.

Poster: Blocknuster Dude
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Sunday August 29 00:05:41 2004
Re: Thought you all might find this interesting
This post was moved to The Bulletin Board.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Sunday August 29 00:09:33 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: A lot of nonsense removed.
The Moderator
Sunday August 29 00:28:51 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
The Moderator wrote:

> This post was deleted.
> Poster: (unsigned poster)
> Reason: A lot of nonsense removed.

I have heard history described as "bunk", but "nonsense?"
That which is not topical is not necessarily nonsensical, sir.

Mad Dan
Sunday August 29 01:21:33 2004
Re: Lagardere
Mark O wrote:

> My favorite style of dress for a Did is
> a short skirt or a nice dress.

I prefer damsels in tight jeans or underwear.
Anubis
Sunday August 29 02:12:52 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Mad Dan wrote:

>
>
>
> Not keen on cleaves unless they are taped over, bringing
> the lips together outside the cloth.

Exactly. Those are few and far between.. Usually, cleaves are too loose. Tape, if applied properly, or over the mouth, distort the cheeks and nose better, that's is why they are more evocotive of helplessness

doug
doug5759@yahoo.com
Sunday August 29 02:28:16 2004
Re: Infierno?
hallbird wrote:
> Afraid I jumped the gun a bit on this one as nothings
> happened this week and doesn't look like anythings going
> to happen tonight. The scene has to be in the next week
> or so as the villainess is impersonating a nun as
> described in the database description.

Actually the scene may not occur until at least another week or two.
I checked my copy of the entire episode with the scene you're waiting for and when you see a bald woman (that looks like death-warmed-over) sick in bed then you can start looking for the scene. Right now she still has hair (short red hair).

Sunday August 29 03:23:15 2004
Re: Thought you all might find this interesting
The Moderator wrote:

> This post was moved to The Bulletin Board.
> Poster: Blocknuster Dude
> Reason: Off-topic.

Since when is a picture of a gagged woman off topic? that is all i want to know
Blockbuster dude
Sunday August 29 04:32:41 2004
Re: Blockbuster - Off Topic?
Blockbuster dude wrote:

> Since when is a picture of a gagged woman off topic?

News-media/real life protests have been off-topic on Discussion for a good while. You'd post that on Anything Goes Page.

That's why Brian posted it to the Bulletin Board page for you.
Jay L
Sunday August 29 05:57:12 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Mark O wrote:

> For me, hands behind back with rope; legs and knees tied;
> in a skirt or dress; OTM gag with packing; and prefer no
> blindfold (love the expression in the eyes).

Firstly, the gag must look and be effective. Cleave gags IMO are a no-no, simply because a DiD can easily call out through them. A big, wide, OTM gag made from heavy material is good, as is tape (which IMO must be wound round the head for security!) is important.

Tying for me should ideally be on-screen, and in this case tape is generally the best, though other scenes (eg Chandler and Co) are excellent for it, and hands should definitely be behind back. Binding of ankles is a plus but non-essential!

Finally, blindfolds should be used (completes the whole Did thing, "bound, gagged and blindfolded" as blindfold prevents a DiD from seeing the captors as well as stopping ways of getting out of their predicament of alerting other people to their situation! A bandanna is good here, or a thick scarf (again effectiveness is essential!). However tape is a possibility (again wound round the head).

When was the last time we saw a DiD bound, gagged and blindfolded with tape (the latter two wound round the head?)
Rhavin
Sunday August 29 06:21:23 2004
Re: newbie
Jay L wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > There's Major Johns which I've heard has good stuff,
> but
> > a paysite
>
> You've heard incorrect.
> The Mainstream DiDclips posted on the Major's site are
> free.

Jay L, I can't seem to find these on Major John's site! Could you direct me? Thanks.

Rhavin
Sunday August 29 06:25:46 2004
Re: Justice League Unlimited
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>(unsigned poster) wrote:
> Mark C wrote:
For those of you into cartoon bondage Wonder Woman had a
brief scene tonight.She was literally hogtied for a moment.
>
> any mention of a gag of any kind?<<<<<<

{Smirking} You need to understand that Mark REALLY means LITERALLY. WW was magically changed into a pig. A pig with metal arm (Paw?) bracelets, but a pig nonetheless.

Weird episode. Zatanna (Yum) makes an appearance (No gag, darn it!) and Batman... sings. Really.


Vince Grey
Sunday August 29 07:04:23 2004
Agatha Christie's Poirot and Marple
> does anyone know if any of Agatha Christie's novels involving Poirot or Marple have a DiD scene? I also wonder about the possibility of an original DiD
scene being created for a story.
----
In "Murder on the Orient Express", the 1974 movie adaptation of the Hercule Poirot mystery "Murder in the Calais Coach", there was a minor scene for Ingrid Bergman (or her double) in the opening as the nurse left tied up by the Lindberg child's kidnappers.
Kinky-napper
Sunday August 29 07:04:32 2004
The last of the poser art.
B.&G. Picture, the last of the poser art..If you wan't a look go to the URL.Pix up till Monday morning..
Wayne
http://community.webtv.net/wayne3750/doc
Sunday August 29 07:54:04 2004
Re: Justice League Unlimited

> > Mark C wrote:
> For those of you into cartoon bondage Wonder Woman had a
>
> brief scene tonight.She was literally hogtied for a
> moment.

>
> {Smirking} You need to understand that Mark REALLY means
> LITERALLY. WW was magically changed into a pig. A pig
> with metal arm (Paw?) bracelets, but a pig nonetheless.
>

Yes it was a little play on words but I wouldn't have made the post if there wasn't a real scene. Near the end Batman and Zatana convince Sersi to break her spell. You see the pig on a convayer belt in a slaughter house go through an opening in the wall, then a flash of light and an angry Wonder Woman comes crashing through the wall.Her hands are still bound in front but her feet have magically escaped bondage during the transformation. She breaks free within a 3 count.

Mark C
Sunday August 29 09:56:39 2004
Re: A Damsel Passes
Zeppo wrote:

> Sorry to hear that 80's singer Laura Brannigan passed
> away from a brain aneurysm earlier this week.

Wow, scene aside "Self Control" is one of my favorite songs...sad.

angryrob
Sunday August 29 10:11:25 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Van wrote:

> Anyway, according to the IMDb (long may it wave)
> "Lagardère" was(is) a 1967 French
> mini-series... so the chances of seeing it on DVD any
> time soon are probably slim & none. :-( The premise
> sounds promising. Maybe we should hope for a remake.
>

No luck when I tried running Lagardere through Amazon's French site, but a Google search throws up "On Guard", a recent French swashbuckler (1997)that has a character named Lagardere in its synopsis, and which is available on DVD.

BIG "but" though is whether this will bear any relation/have any identical scenes to the two wonderful caps provided by Lisa. Has anybody seen this?
Martin
Sunday August 29 10:15:39 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Martin wrote:

> Google search throws up "On Guard", a recent French swashbuckler (1997)that has a character named Lagardere in its synopsis, and which is available on DVD.
>

Link for above.
Martin
http:/imdb.com/title/tt0118756
Sunday August 29 11:14:10 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Martin wrote:
> No luck when I tried running Lagardere through Amazon's
> French site, but a Google search throws up "On
> Guard", a recent French swashbuckler (1997)that has
> a character named Lagardere in its synopsis, and which is
> available on DVD.

Same character, but a different book, I think. French title is "Le Bossu", i.e. The Hunchback.
>
>
Mad Dan
Sunday August 29 11:48:13 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Actually, there've been quite a few shows about the Lagardere character, including a French TV mini-series from 2003 that has the same title and many of the same character names as the 1967 version. Could well be the same story.

IMDb also revealed these:

1943. El Jorobado, aka Enrique de Lagardere. Mexican movie, no synopsis or character names. Seems to be "The Hunchback".

1952. Il Figlio di Lagardere, aka Son of the Hunchback. Italian movie. Search of Google images turned up a poster, but no tie-up scene.

1955 El Juramento de Lagardere (Lagardere's Oath?) Argentinian movie, no details. Possibly a different story.

1965 My Fair Lagardere, Belgian spoof musical(!) No details - possibly only the title is relevant.

Also revealed by Google Images is a nice still of the blonde lady from 1967 in her black and white outfit, with the leather-jerkined hero. Again, no bondage, but what a babe!

Mad Dan
Sunday August 29 12:15:52 2004
Re: Lagardere
Still digging, but I discovered the TV show (full title "Les Aventures de Lagardere") was released as a movie in 1969 and shown in the US.

It is also apparently available on video from UGC Video in Europe, and from Francevision.

http://www.francevision.com/Catalog/item.asp?Act=Item&ID=5093&PID=1

Best of luck typing that! Sounds as if it has quite a bit more than the coach scene.
Mad Dan
Sunday August 29 13:19:39 2004
Re: The Major's Mainstream Clips
Rhavin wrote:

> Jay L, I can't seem to find these
Could you direct me?

Hit the Homepage link. Scroll down to "House of 1000 Corpses"

His email is there if any further questions.
Jay L
http://www.bindher.com/silentnight/
Sunday August 29 14:11:21 2004
Re: Lagardere
Paul Feval's serialised novel Le Bossu (the Hunchback)has been filmed several times; two more efforts I just discovered were French versions, both reportedly forgettable, in 1944 and 1959.

The hero, Lagardere, has been the subject of other stories, notably in the 1968 series of 8 comic books written and adapted by Marcel Jullian. These may contain DiD scenes.
htp://perso.wanadoo.fr/bd.petit.format/jklm/lagardere.html

I haven't read the original book, so I don't know if the scenes in the TV series are taken from it.

The 1997 movie of Le Bossu is a spectacular epic, but the trailer shows no DiD scene. Do any French readers know if there are any?

For an article on the 2003 TV version, with many production stills, see
http://miguel.gomes.com/lagardere.htm

No DiD scene in that, either, so the 1967 version may be the only one to feature the lovely ladies bound in the coach.

Mad Dan
Sunday August 29 14:16:01 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Mad Dan wrote:

> IMDb also revealed these:
>
> 1943. El Jorobado, aka Enrique de Lagardere. Mexican
> movie, no synopsis or character names. Seems to be
> "The Hunchback".
>
> 1952. Il Figlio di Lagardere, aka Son of the Hunchback.
> Italian movie. Search of Google images turned up a
> poster, but no tie-up scene.
>
> 1955 El Juramento de Lagardere (Lagardere's Oath?)
> Argentinian movie, no details. Possibly a different
> story.
>
> 1965 My Fair Lagardere, Belgian spoof musical(!) No
> details - possibly only the title is relevant.

Forget to mention 1925 "Le Petit Parisien", 1960 "Le Bossu" (starring Jean Marais as Lagardere and Sabine Sesselmann as Aurore de Nevers), 1996 "Le Bossu" (starring Daniel Auteuil as Lagardere and Marie Gillain as Aurore). Guess there has been many others scripts and movies inspired by Paul Feval's novel.
Lisa
Sunday August 29 14:49:39 2004
agatha christie
In the agatha christie book 'Man in the Brown Suit' there is an extensive B&G scene that was very necessary for the plot. In the movie with Stephanie Zimbalist it was completely deleted.
Sunday August 29 16:04:33 2004
Re: Lagardere
Mad Dan wrote:

> Best of luck typing that!

When posting URLs, a handy tip is to use the Homepage field.
This will make it a link, and handy for most people.

See below.

The Engineer
http://www.francevision.com/Catalog/item.asp?Act=Item&ID=5093&PID=1
Sunday August 29 16:13:28 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Lisa wrote:
>
> Forget to mention 1925 "Le Petit Parisien",

Oops! I did see that mentioned somewhere, but forgot where. Thanks, Lisa.


> 1960 "Le Bossu" (starring Jean Marais as
> Lagardere and Sabine Sesselmann as Aurore de Nevers),

May be the one attributed to 1959 by one source.

> 1996 "Le Bossu" (starring Daniel Auteuil as
> Lagardere and Marie Gillain as Aurore).

Again, the sources I saw said 1997 for this one; there may be confusion between production and general release years. Good looking movie, that!

Guess there has
> been many others scripts and movies inspired by Paul Feval's novel.

Seems M. Lag is like Robin Hood or Zorro, an infinitely adaptable hero.

Mad Dan
Sunday August 29 16:31:54 2004
Get it while you can
Major John will be going 'OFF THE AIR' this week - look for an announcement on this page regarding future plans and a redirection to the new page - Sayonara!

Major John
Sunday August 29 16:51:19 2004
Re: Agatha Christie's Poirot and Marple
Kinky-napper wrote:
does anyone know if any of Agatha Christie's novels
involving Poirot or Marple have a DiD scene? I also
wonder about the possibility of an original DiD
scene being created for a story.
----
In "Murder on the Orient Express", the 1974
movie adaptation of the Hercule Poirot mystery
"Murder in the Calais Coach", there was a minor
scene for Ingrid Bergman (or her double) in the opening
as the nurse left tied up by the Lindberg child's kidnappers.
_____________
Poirot{Murder on the Links}
Diane Fletcher (Eloise Renauld)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0094525
http://tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-3573/epid-130882
http://bindherupx.net/cgg1/dianefletcher.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Sunday August 29 18:12:53 2004
Re: Swashbucklers
On the subject of TV adaptations, I wonder if we'll ever see again the BBC's mid-60s version of "The Three Musketeers."

The lingering, firm but tender handgag applied by d'Artagnan to the adorable Constance must be one of the best ever filmed. One for Doug, with fear on the actress's face turning to sensuous enjoyment as the danger recedes. :-)

Mad Dan
Sunday August 29 18:42:06 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Mike D wrote:

> One good one that comes to mind is Schizoid, wherein a
> 30-something mother and her teenage daighter are bound
> back-to-back and tape gagged - an extended scene with
> lots of struggling and nice detail.

I don't think the two bound and gagged damsels were mother and daughter. The daughter was played by the gorgeous brunette Donna Wilkes, and I think that the older damsel was her psychiatrist.
the scene was delectable indeed; the ladies were tied back-to-back and gagged with white surgical tape.

Hadji
Sunday August 29 19:08:04 2004
Re: Lagardere
Mad Dan wrote:

> The hero, Lagardere, has been the subject of other
> stories, notably in the 1968 series of 8 comic books
> written and adapted by Marcel Jullian. These may contain
> DiD scenes.

Possibly. As far as Marcel Jullian was also the scriptwriter of the '67 TV series. I suspect the mentioned comic books is part of the huge collection Télé-Série © OZ (Italian studio) which proposed in the Sixties many graphic versions of the most popular TV series (Anouk Aimée, Zorro, Thierry la Fronde, Josh Randall...) at that time.

> No DiD scene in that, either, so the 1967 version may be
> the only one to feature the lovely ladies bound in the coach.

I think so. The scene happens in the second part of the series (ep. 4 or 5 or so) and that part of the script is a total Jullian's creation, an addition to the original Feval's work, as the villain Gonzague is not killed by Lagardere but escapes and takes Aurore and Flore in hostage.


Lisa
Sunday August 29 19:27:09 2004
Att: Canucks & Northern Yanks
Re: Isn't "Cruelle destinée" really "Du hast mir meine Familie geraubt (1998)" ?

Okay, search is still down, and as yet haven't any luck with confirming by going through a pile of notes.
So for now,
suggest just running tape later (@2am) on Series+ channel.

If recall correct?
Starts off kidnapping Frauline becomes neighbour of Katharina Abt, whom been involved in a car accident that killed the kidnapping Frauline's kids.

See that kind of plot, keep tape going.
Jay L
Sunday August 29 20:29:44 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Mad Dan wrote:

> Stan wrote:
> > Tape gags always look like they're on the verge of
> > falling off in the TV shows and movies I've seen
> them used in.
>
> ALWAYS? Really?

> They are unconvincing when either the tape is too stiff
> to conform properly, the wussy actress wants a piece of
> card or paper to protect her lips, or much of the tack
> has been
> been taken out for the same purpose. But that isn't always!

Maybe I should've said " in most cases, the tape gags I've seen in TV shows and movies look like they're on the verge of falling off. "

Sheesh !


Stan
Sunday August 29 20:37:38 2004
Re: agatha christie
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> In the agatha christie book 'Man in the Brown Suit' there
> is an extensive B&G scene that was very necessary for
> the plot. In the movie with Stephanie Zimbalist it was
> completely deleted.

I've heard that too, how the movie version for some reason left the bondage scene out. Damn them !

In the book, I also liked the part when the heroine escapes her prison and has just related to her rather dim witted friend what she'd just been through, she moans ( as best as my memory can serve ), " Oh why can't I have adventures where I'm kidnapped, gagged and bound !? "

Girls need more friends like her.




Stan
Sunday August 29 21:54:38 2004
DAMSELS UNDER GLASS is Updated!
Chapter 11 of "Shorty & the Cowgirl" is posted. Enjoy! (Only one chapter to go, plus the epilogue!)
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/dug-banner.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Sunday August 29 23:02:48 2004
Re: agatha christie
Stan wrote:

> In the book, I also liked the part when the heroine
> escapes her prison and has just related to her rather dim
> witted friend what she'd just been through, she moans (
> as best as my memory can serve ), " Oh why can't I
> have adventures where I'm kidnapped, gagged and bound !? "
>
This was actually discussed on this page a long while back - a year or so ago, possibly so long ago that they may no longer show up in the search engine. What's more, I saved the discussion at the time.

However, the posts are too large for me to want to copy them here and therefore take up a lot of space. So instead, I saved them at the address below for those who are interested in reading the discussion about the scene.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
http://www.geocities.com/jazz411.geo/bd-novel-char.txt
Sunday August 29 23:45:46 2004
Re: agatha christie
Stan wrote:

> In the book, I also liked the part when the heroine
> escapes her prison and has just related to her rather dim
> witted friend what she'd just been through, she moans (
> as best as my memory can serve ), " Oh why can't I
> have adventures where I'm kidnapped, gagged and bound !?

From Jazz's page:

" Why do these things always happen to you !? ", she cried plaintively. " Why does no one gag me and bind me hand and foot ? "
LV

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