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| Monday August 23 00:00:25 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release/Whispers In The Dark |
| Jacot wrote:
> I always thought that that was one of the most plausible, > and well done scenes in a long time: > > 1. Efffective restrainants > 2. Effective gag > 3. Materials used are very plausible, typical of what is > probably in almost every home > 4. Attractive DID who does a very good job of looking > scared, mad, and uncomfortable > 5. Attire that was entirely appropriate for the > character, business suit, pantihose, low heels, not a > micro mini with nylons/garter belt, and 6 inch platform > strappy sandals > > Overall a situation that could happen in real life. If I may throw my thoughts in on this and address both Anubis and Jacot's letters in one place. First, howdy to you both, a couple other long timers here. Anubis, this scene isn't super high on my best list either, but I think that is mostly due to its relatively short length. I saw the movie when it came out in a theatre, not expecting a scene, and was pretty damn impressed with the ropework and the gag. Still am, but there just ain't enough screen time for me to rate it that highly. With that said, and without giving it a hell of a lot of thinking (there's a news flash, eh, LOL!) I come up with it being one of the two best ropework jobs I remember seeing in the mainstream. The other being a similar type scene from the old "Dragnet" tv show, where the bound gal was unfortunately dead as shown due to a blow to the head after she was bound. But boy was she tied tight. Anubis, as a fellow producer of scenes, I'd be especially interested in your take, but for sure everybody elses too.. any thoughts on the "best" roping you've seen in the mainstream? Not that which just tripped your personal trigger, but more the "damn, she's really tied tight", or "wow, that gal ain't going nowhere soon!" And Jacot, I agree totally with your thoughts on this scene till you hit the end. You said what she was wearing was: not a > micro mini with nylons/garter belt, and 6 inch platform > strappy sandals > Overall a situation that could happen in real life. Hey,bound girls in micro mini's and garter belts are a situation that does happen in real life to a few of us, LOL!! And damn, are we happy about it! By the way, in the interview I read with Anabella I read, she was quoted as saying "I was tied up for hours. I was SO pissed!" But then I think of Frances McDormand from "Darkman" who claimed she spent half the movie bound and gagged. Yeah Fran, by whose watch?? |
| David Knight |
| http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com |
| Monday August 23 00:46:31 2004 Re: Scene ID? |
| Kerhop wrote:
> 2. Asian couple being burglarized, Pacific Blue "The Enemy Within" |
| Anubis |
| Monday August 23 01:04:50 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release/Whispers In The Dark |
| David Knight wrote:
> Anubis, as a fellow producer of scenes, I'd be especially > interested in your take, but for sure everybody elses > too.. any thoughts on the "best" roping you've > seen in the mainstream? Well, it would probably be Nestor Burma "Panique a St Patrick" where shes tied standing up with one arm tied high over her head and the other arm tied to her side with coils of rope pinning it to her side and a ball gag. The one arm up, the other arm down position looked damn near impossible to get out of, uncomfortable as hell too. Ive never seen that position in any other mainstream scene. |
| Anubis |
| Monday August 23 01:05:27 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release/Whispers In The Dark |
| David Knight wrote:
> Hey,bound girls in micro mini's and garter belts are a > situation that does happen in real life to a few of us, Go ahead Dave, rub it in, just really rub it in :-) It will be interesting to see if Anna has anything to say about that scene in the DVD commentary. |
| Jacot |
| Monday August 23 01:13:16 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release/Whispers In The Dark |
| David Knight wrote:
> Anubis, this scene isn't super high on my best list > either, but I think that is mostly due to its relatively > short length. Length of a scene isnt a major factor to me if the scene is still well done. Whispers didnt do anything for me due to the fact that she just laid there like she was asleep. Then theres a scene like "Goodbye Norma Jean", where shes only tied and gagged for a few seconds, but had a decent amount of struggling, so I would rate it higher than a longer scene without much movement. I also am not a big fan of common scenes that everyone has done to death. To me, a rare scene that few people have heard of or seen that is really intense, is MUCH more valuable than Terror Among Us or something like that. My current favorite right now is probably Bimini Code, because it took me FOREVER to finally get a very clear copy of that scene. I ended up tracking down an original video copy of it that was still sealed in the box for almost 20 years. |
| Anubis |
| Monday August 23 07:35:14 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release/Whispers In The Dark |
| Anubis wrote:
> Then theres a scene like "Goodbye Norma Jean", > where shes only tied and gagged for a few seconds, but > had a decent amount of struggling, so I would rate it > higher than a longer scene without much movement. I would also rare this scene, as a very good example, higher than Whispers because of the actress. The wish and anticipation factors come into play heavily here. I can remember seeing Misty Rowe on "When Things Were Rotten" (Mel Brooks' first atrocious attempt at spoofing Robin Hood) and then "Hee Haw", and right away thinking how much I'd love to see her get the full treatment. I read a review of Goodbye several years after it was released (IIRC in Psychotronic Magazine); the review stating there was a scene in which she was bound and gagged. Naturally, that had me greatly desiring to see this, building quite a few years of anticipation until I was able to find this on video. Even though the scene was short, it was highly enjoyable. I never had any such deisire to see Annabella Sciorria tied up because I never thought she was anything too great (not attractive, not terribly cute, not sexy in any way, not much of an actor either). So when her scene came around and I saw it, it did very little for me. |
| LV |
| Monday August 23 08:33:58 2004 Re: Sunday Chicago Tribune Magazine |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> The back cover of today's Chicago Tribune Magazine has an > interesting advertisement for Hermes scarves, featuring > silk between the teeth of two attractive models. Is this the same ad that was in Vanity Fair--sounds a little different (was a scarf between their teeth?)? Can you scan it? |
| ss |
| Monday August 23 11:10:31 2004 For the Bulletin Board |
| Sorry - I don't even know if this is appropriate for the bulletin board but I found these on Ebay.co.uk. Somebody is selling a CD-ROM of Bondage images - I got some samples from him which are all pretty good - the item number is below
5514829709 There are no images on the add though. Sorry Mr. Moderator if this isn't really even something for the bulletin board either. |
| Eh??? |
| Monday August 23 11:24:24 2004 Two DinD's in a Tub |
| Rub a Dub Dub |
| http://htfvidcaps.dyndns.org/vidcaps/Saint_Martin/Heisser_Fund/htf_saintmartin_246.jpg |
| Monday August 23 11:53:36 2004 Re: Old Intel Advertising Brochure |
| Origpooh wrote:
> I thought this was cute; its an article from an old 1990 > copy of PC Week that I came across: Any chance of you scanning it??? :D |
| dsman |
| Monday August 23 13:24:38 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release |
| Brian L wrote:
> Old-timers here may remember the "bondage > wrangler" who claimed he was hired just to tie her > up for this movie. What a dream job! Did they even have to pay this guy a salary? > Maybe the possible commentary will talk about this. Hopefully, but sounds too good to be true. What would be even better would be outtakes, behind the scenes, rough cuts. ("More struggling, Annabella. Pull harder on those ropes; let's do several takes--first moaning, then crying, then moaning and crying, then...") |
| Jacques |
| Monday August 23 13:48:39 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release |
| I doubt Annabella wanted to do a commentary |
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| Monday August 23 13:58:57 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release |
| > I doubt Annabella wanted to do a commentary
> Not suprising she never had another DinD scene again |
| http://whitelord.ath.cx/b2000/whisp1wl.jpg |
| Monday August 23 13:59:17 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release |
| > I doubt Annabella wanted to do a commentary
> Not suprising she never had another DinD scene again |
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| Monday August 23 14:20:50 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > I doubt Annabella wanted to do a commentary > > > > Not suprising she never had another DinD scene again > I'd bet the house there won't be even one extra scene in this DVD, not just the tie-up but the whole movie. Remember, directors had no reason to save deleted scenes until a few years ago. I'd proceed with caution if you're expecting something you haven't seen yet. |
| Monday August 23 14:26:44 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release |
| > I'd proceed with caution if you're
> expecting something you haven't seen yet. I'd settle of a making-of featurette. |
| A Alda |
| Monday August 23 15:16:29 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release/Whispers In The Dark |
| LV wrote:
> I read a review of Goodbye several years after it was > released (IIRC in Psychotronic Magazine); the review > stating there was a scene in which she was bound and > gagged. I read about it in the same magazine. What I also liked about it was the slow buildup to the scene. The onscreen cuffing and gagging, the way the photographer talked to her while he was doing it, the peeping toms watching from behind the curtain without her knowing, everything helped enhance the short time she was bound and gagged. Plus she was a Marilyn Monroe lookalike. >Even though the scene was > short, it was highly enjoyable. Yes, one of the few scenes that took me forever to find and still lived up to my anticipation. |
| Anubis |
| Monday August 23 16:44:32 2004 Re: Two DinD's in a Tub |
| > Rub a Dub Dub
Doesn't get much better than that (unless you could squeeze in one more) |
| Monday August 23 19:40:13 2004 Re: Two DinD's in a Tub |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Rub a Dub Dub > http://htfvidcaps.dyndns.org/vidcaps/Saint_Martin/Heisser_ > Fund/htf_saintmartin_246.jpg Thanks, great photo! Where's this from? |
| Viking |
| Monday August 23 20:14:33 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release/Whispers In The Dark |
| Anubis wrote:
> Length of a scene isnt a major factor to me if the scene > is still well done. Whispers didnt do anything for me due > to the fact that she just laid there like she was > asleep. I'll have to disagree with you here a bit. She didn't lie there like she was asleep, but like she was petrified. Recall, he didn't tie her up to leave her while he went out, he was all over her. I thought she did a pretty good job of portraying that helpless terror. She was captive, help by a nutjob threatening her with lit cigarettes. I understand that the rather static result may not have been to everyone's liking, but I believe the acting was true and appropriate for the way the scene played out. |
| Brian R |
| Monday August 23 20:44:41 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release/Whispers In The Dark |
| Brian R wrote:
but I believe the acting was true and appropriate for the way the scene played out. Very well said Brian !!! Mainstream DID scenes should be plausible, which is exactly what Anna's scene was. The problem with a lot of mainstream DID scenes is that they are just laughably improbable, example, a womwn totally and completely hepless because she has a couple of loops around her hands [which are in front of her] and a thin cloth cleave gag that would fall out if she wasn't biting down on it. Of course she is so HELPLESS that she cannot slip her hands free or reach up and pull the gag. out !!! One of the neatest scenes was that old Demi Moore chestnut from General Hospital. The one where she and two other young lovelies are brought into the room hands behind their backs and cleave gags in place. The 'GAGGED' women have no trouble at all speaking very understandably through the gags. Very realistic !!!!! |
| Jacot |
| Monday August 23 20:48:28 2004 Misty Rowe/Norma Jean |
| If we are talking about the same film, I got the distinct impression that the incident where she was tied up and raped was not that unusual an occdurence. Almost a normal part of being a young actress trying to break into the big leagues.
But then it has been many years since I saw the film :-) |
| Jacot |
| Monday August 23 21:19:18 2004 Whispers In The Dark |
| I thought it was a decent enough scene. Then again, I only ever saw it in pan and scan VHS, so it might be worth a second look in widescreen on DVD.
The "Dragnet" scene mentioned earlier was a little less impressive IMHO. One hogtie scene that did work for me was Big Trouble In Little China (ya know, I really do need to get that DVD). A surprisingly realistic looking scene was in the old serial Manhunt of Mystery Island. The scene where Linda Stirling is tied in basically a front facing hogtie (chapter four I believe). She really does look like she isn't going anywhere anytime soon! |
| Todd 3-D |
| todd3d@yahoo.com |
| http://anuvids.com/xmain/specials/prodid.html |
| Monday August 23 21:39:02 2004 Mainstream Bondage |
| A mainstream bondage scene is not designed to be a primer for real bondage but for entertainment. Realistic bondage is a bonus not a given. What we should expect to see is bondage that is not ridiculous but a good representation of the real thing. It must also be visually and sensually pleasing to see. |
| Gordian Knot |
| Monday August 23 22:25:48 2004 Re: Sunday Chicago Tribune Magazine |
| ss wrote:
> Is this the same ad that was in Vanity Fair--sounds a > little different (was a scarf between their teeth?)? Can > you scan it? I don't know if it's the same one that was in vanity fair. It wasn't a scarf between their teeth, more like a silk ribbon. Can't scan it, and no place to put it if I could. Sorry. |
| Monday August 23 22:45:42 2004 Re: Upcoming DVD release/Whispers In The Dark |
| Brian R wrote:
> She didn't lie > there like she was asleep, but like she was petrified. > I vaguely remember seeing this scene on TV with my dad many moons ago, and you're right. She was distinctly awake in the hogtie scene, and clearly moving, but just enough to indicate that she's awake and scared out of her wits. In fact, the scene stuck in my head for a while partly due to the circumstances in which I saw it. Seeing someone who's tied up and not moving because she's too afraid to move is actually pretty unique; and it's always nice to see a scene that sticks out as different. |
| Jazz411 |
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