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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Monday September 06 00:00:31 2004 Re: Saw Shawnee Smith Device |
| Todd wrote:
> just found a picture Here's a clearer (though smaller) picture of it. There's also a trailer at this link that shows a little more of the bondage. |
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| Kerhop |
| http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2004/STUVWXYZ/Saw/trailer.html |
| Monday September 06 00:06:03 2004 Scene ID? |
| 1. Appears to be part of a serial (different chapters?), all three involves the lady supposedly killed due to an explosion or a spear the first time and then re-shown again with the hero rescuing her the second time around.
2. She throws a guy some clothes to put on, then says "I was hoping you would say that" later mentioning the name of some city called "Terrainia". |
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| Kerhop |
| kerhop@oz.net |
| Monday September 06 00:13:46 2004 Re: Scene ID? |
| Kerhop wrote:
> 2. She throws a guy some clothes to put on, then says > "I was hoping you would say that" later > mentioning the name of some city called "Terrainia". Genesis II, Lynne Marta |
| Rob |
| Monday September 06 01:20:30 2004 Re: Scene ID? |
| Kerhop wrote:
> 1. Appears to be part of a serial (different chapters?), > all three involves the lady supposedly killed due to an > explosion or a spear the first time and then re-shown > again with the hero rescuing her the second time around. Maybe this one: Record number: 958 Title: Haunted Harbor (1943) Medium: Movie Serial Actress: Kay Aldridge Description: Chapter 4: Patricia Harding (Aldridge) is tied to a chair, with her wrists behind her back. The hero breaks in, and there's the usual battle with the bad guys while the heroine struggles. This time she frees herself and escapes, picking up the fleeing hero in her station wagon. Chapter 9/10: The bad guys have lured Patricia into a trap to trade her for one of their own being held prisoner. They have no intention of completing their half of the trade, however. While she's bound hand and foot to a chair, with a big white white detective gag covering the lower half of her face, she receives a demonstation of ye olde death trap, in this case, a huge mining drill with a loose bit, rigged to go off if the hero is foolish enough to break into their hideout. Of course, if he doesn't break in, they'll pull the trigger for kicks. They tie Ms. Harding to a beam in the mine, aim the drill at her heart and go to make the swap. The hero surprises the bad guys and beats them to a pulp, as Ms. Harding quivers, wide-eyed with fear. (Not much acting here, folks.) The hero opens the door, the drill goes off; but the heroine ducks and the bit embeds itself in the beam over her head. Very lengthy scene that's included on the video tape cover. In Episode 13, the heroine is captured and her wrists are bound to the arms of a chair, while her ankles are tied and with loops going around the chair legs. No gag. She struggles to escape when the heros battling to free her knock a flaming lantern against high explosives. |
| Brian R |
| Monday September 06 01:25:45 2004 Re: Scene ID? |
| Thanks to Rob and Brian for the quick ID's, both appear to be correct. :)
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| Kerhop |
| Monday September 06 03:20:09 2004 Re: Saw |
| JP wrote:
> Just outta curiosity, can you describe the "jaw > thing implanted in her mouth" a bit more? It's not a gag, it's a "Saw" set to a timer to activate if she doesn't do what the killer wants. You can get all this just from the trailer. |
| Monday September 06 04:00:52 2004 Re: Adderly Show ID? |
| JP wrote:
> that old show "Adderly" > has a gal tied & "above-the-lip" gagged, > being menaced by a tiger(!). By the way, if anyone else > has that scene & knows the ID of the actress let me > know Recently we ID'd and updated this entry. Here, for your lists [Played Character Debbie, if want that?]: Record number: 5123 Title: Adderly Medium: TV Series Actress: Marilyn Smith Description: Episode: "Year Of The Tiger" (1.15) Roughly 40 minutes in, she's tied to a chair wrists to armrests, upperbody tied to chairback, and cleave-gagged with a scarf. Some humourous gag-talk scenes as she's left in a room with a tiger that's got loose. |
| Jay L |
| Monday September 06 07:51:16 2004 Dead Links |
| >>>>The Engineer wrote:
> All dead links will be removed. Currently, that means: >>>> The Greyman's Page<<<<< I'm not dead just yet. My new site is located at: http://www.greyweb.org |
| Vince Grey |
| vincegrey@greyweb.org |
| www.greyweb.org |
| Monday September 06 09:20:12 2004 Site Update |
| Latest mainstream section update: Barbi Benton in "Deathstalker"; Rhonda Griffin and Kristin Norton in "The Creeps"; and Cecilia Bergqvist and Arlette Adriani in "Junior".
Please note the changed URL for bookmarks or linking purposes. Enjoy! |
| CollectorX |
| http://www.gagsnroses.com |
| Monday September 06 09:31:52 2004 Terrorism, the play |
| Hello All,
I found an interesting article today about a play called Terrorism. It's by a Russian guy named Preshyakov and is currently playing at the Theater @ Risk in Melbourne, Australia. One of the scenes involves some S&M play between two characters. In a review I read called it very disturbing. I've posted a link to the citysearch page in Melborne which has a picture of the woman, hands bound losely and an apparent panty gag. I've yet to find a web page for the theater but imagine more about this one will show up soon. Hope everyone had a good summer. PW |
| PW |
| http://melbourne.citysearch.com.au/profile?id=15778 |
| Monday September 06 10:10:50 2004 Re: Scene ID? |
| Kerhop wrote:
> Thanks to Rob and Brian for the quick ID's, both appear > to be correct. :) Scene 1 is definitely Haunted Harbor; later in the episode damsel Kay is tied to the post and gagged and menaced by the contraption |
| peril lover |
| Monday September 06 11:08:27 2004 Re: Adderly Show ID? |
| > Recently we ID'd and updated this entry.
> Here, for your lists: > > Title: Adderly > Medium: TV Series > Actress: Marilyn Smith Jay: MANY thanks for that info!!! I"ve been trying to ID that scene for a time now. |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Monday September 06 12:20:24 2004 passions still going on?? |
| what up with Passions? Should we be on the lookout today (monday) for more bondage action with Paloma?? or did it end on friday? |
| Monday September 06 12:51:22 2004 Re: Best mmmmphing |
| Todd 3-D wrote:
Generally, the better mmphing scenes come with tape gags. Just downloaded short clip of prom night from major john's and this sort of pours cold water on the above theory. BTW - is there any equivalent in mainstream scenes of this sort of combo gag? - seems like it might be a whole new genre: stuffed, bit-gagged all in one shot = great scene, and the mmphing is spectacular - gotta vote this a 9.9 for olympics fans bored with the olympic coverage and need a change. Note to MJ - love the dresses |
| film fan |
| Monday September 06 13:49:02 2004 Re: bondage bloopers |
| C wrote:
> The actress should have indicated it had come loose, Really? Have you ever been on a movie set? An actor "cutting the scene" for the director is the surest way of getting fired, unless they're a big star who has power over the director. You act until someone yells "Cut!" |
| John |
| Monday September 06 14:30:52 2004 Monday possibles |
| "Hawaii" deals with a serial killer storyline tonight. A longshot here, but TV Guide says a "murder mystery" unfolds at the hotel on "North Shore" on Fox. Wouldn't mind seeing Brooke Burns stumble upon a plot in her role as head of security at the hotel. |
| Monday September 06 15:02:30 2004 Re: Terrorism, the play |
| PW wrote:
> I found an interesting article today about a play called > Terrorism. ......... I've posted a link to the citysearch > page in Melborne which has a picture of the woman, hands > bound losely and an apparent panty gag. Isn't it interesting to find bondage in live theater? Although still "mainstream bondage" (I think, although I'm certain that The Moderator will correct me if I'm wrong) it doesn't seem to be discussed here much - probably because of its rarity. "Urinetown" had some cool bondage..any others that anyone can think of? |
| Mark O |
| Monday September 06 15:31:33 2004 Re: bondage bloopers |
| John wrote:
> An actor > "cutting the scene" for the director is the > surest way of getting fired, unless they're a big star > who has power over the director. Not true at all. The plethora of blooper scenes from films and TV with actors making jokes, being silly on camera while filming, proves otherwise. None of those actors get fired for interupting the scene, they are under contract. If a prop is failing, it costs more to keep filming the scene since all that footage would have to be thrown out and all that time would be wasted. I think its more a case of a realistic gag not being all that important to the soap's storyline, so they didnt bother to put the effort to make it tight enough to look real. These shows are aimed at an audience that for the most part doesnt really think that much about the realism of a gag. |
| Anubis |
| Monday September 06 16:19:28 2004 Re: Best mmmmphing |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> > > can anyone name 4 or 5 top-notch mmmmmphing > scenes that they would recommend > > > > > True enough, although two exceptions among my favorites > would be Marilyn Burns in "Eaten Alive" (1976) > and Judea Brittain in "Beach Fever" (1987). I agree. An excellent scene. Thanks to USA Up All Night, I caught this one years ago. |
| Curator |
| http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6321915424&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT |
| Monday September 06 16:34:51 2004 Re: Monday possibles |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> "Hawaii" deals with a serial killer storyline > tonight. A longshot here, but TV Guide says a > "murder mystery" unfolds at the hotel on > "North Shore" on Fox. Wouldn't mind seeing > Brooke Burns stumble upon a plot in her role as head of security at the hotel. Actually, tonight's episode of Hawaii deals with a bank heist/hostage situation. There are TWO episodes of Hawaii this week, one tonight and one on Wednesday night. The one on Wednesday night is the one that deals with the serial killer. Both have scene potential, so both are probably worth taping. CYLL for air times, which if I recall are different by an hour for the two shows this week. Also, a reminder that RIVERMAN airs four times tonight on A&E, at 7, 9, 11 and 1 a.m. CST. RIVERMAN is about how Ted Bundy attempted to help authorities find another serial killer's victims, prostitutes who were bound and gagged by the killer as part of his m.o. |
| KEVIN |
| Monday September 06 16:51:56 2004 Re: theatre bondage |
| Mark O wrote:
bondage in live theater? > "Urinetown" had some cool bondage..any others > that anyone can think of? There's a stage version of "The Collector", in which Marianne Faithfull and Janet Fielding appeared in London back in the '70s and '80s. Also in the UK (and Ireland), a lot of Christmas pantomimes produce scenes, albeit fairly mild as they are fairy tale shows aimed mainly at kids. The professional panto in St Albans last year had Cinderella tightly bound and cleave gagged by the Ugly Sisters and chucked in the cellar. That was exceptional, though. :-) We're doing Cinders at the amateur theatre I paint for this year.... I'll let you know if there's any kind of tie-up scene, though it's unlikely. There's also a scene in "The Wind in the Willows". |
| Mad Dan |
| Monday September 06 17:06:42 2004 Re: Monday possibles |
| KEVIN wrote:
> RIVERMAN is about > how Ted Bundy attempted to help authorities find another > serial killer's victims, prostitutes who were bound and > gagged by the killer as part of his m.o. Im hoping this isn't going to be off-topic, sorry if it is. I would like to correct an innacurate fact so that people aren't disappointed if this movie doesn't pan out. The Green River Killer's modus operandi NEVER included tying/gagging his victims, that's totally innacurate. I've read the novel, and the only descriptions of bondage are when the book explores Bundy's own crimes. The book and is more about Bundy's story than the GRK. However, since Bundy DID bind and gag his victims, I would say it's a safe bet that if there are any reenactments of serial crime in the movie, they most likely would be of Bundy's crimes and may include some binding. Again, I hope this isn't considered off topic, because Im discussing the movie and explaining what people should expect when they see it. |
| Anubis |
| Monday September 06 17:22:57 2004 Re: Monday possibles |
| Anubis wrote:
> > Im hoping this isn't going to be off-topic, sorry if it > is. I would like to correct an innacurate fact so that > people aren't disappointed if this movie doesn't pan > out. > The Green River Killer's modus operandi NEVER included > tying/gagging his victims, that's totally innacurate. > I've read the novel, and the only descriptions of bondage > are when the book explores Bundy's own crimes. The book > and is more about Bundy's story than the GRK. > > However, since Bundy DID bind and gag his victims, I > would say it's a safe bet that if there are any > reenactments of serial crime in the movie, they most > likely would be of Bundy's crimes and may include some > binding. > > Again, I hope this isn't considered off topic, because Im > discussing the movie and explaining what people should expect when they see it. Appreciate the clarification. I was repeating what I ~thought~ I'd remembered reading about this matter on Discussion a little while back. Obviously not the case. As long as there's a prospect for a scene here, that's what I hope makes this on-topic. Like Anubis, I also apologize if this is somehow off-topic. |
| KEVIN |
| Monday September 06 17:27:06 2004 Jennifer Garner |
| Does anyone still happen to have the infamous Jennifer Garner ballgag pic that never made the show? |
| tripper |
| Monday September 06 17:28:19 2004 Bondage in live theater |
| > Isn't it interesting to find bondage in live theater?
"Urinetown" had some cool bondage..any others that anyone can think of? ---- Since it's considered Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's best work, "Hound of the Baskervilles" is a logical choice for theaters staging a Sherlock Holmes play (in addition to nearly all of the action taking place around the Baskerville house). I have to believe more than a few plays incorporated Holmes and Watson discovering a b&g'd Beryl Stapleton, since it's an integral part of the climax. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday September 06 18:05:16 2004 Re: bondage bloopers |
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| Monday September 06 18:07:12 2004 Re: request; movie name |
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| Monday September 06 18:07:54 2004 Re: request; movie name |
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| Monday September 06 18:09:02 2004 Re: Monday possibles |
| Anubis wrote:
> Im hoping this isn't going to be off-topic, sorry if it > is. I'll allow limited discussion due to the movie, but I will be watching this carefully. |
| The Moderator |
| Monday September 06 18:09:49 2004 Re: request; movie name |
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| Monday September 06 18:15:41 2004 Buck Rogers |
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| Monday September 06 18:17:05 2004 Re: Terrorism, the play |
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| The Moderator |
| Monday September 06 18:31:34 2004 Re: Terrorism, the play |
| Mark O wrote:
> > Isn't it interesting to find bondage in live theater? Especially for a long-running production. > Although still "mainstream bondage" (I think, > although I'm certain that The Moderator will correct me > if I'm wrong) it doesn't seem to be discussed here much - > probably because of its rarity. It's always been topical as far as I can recall. > "Urinetown" had some cool bondage..any others > that anyone can think of? A major one, although not widely produced, is "Sweet Eros", the play by Terrence McNally. One production featured Sally Kirkland in the role of the kidnappee. You can see a few shots from the Iowa State production from years back at the Biel site, under Thespians. I seem to remember from an old BL column that "My Favorite Spy" was a play before it was a movie. |
| Brian R |
| http://biel.third-net.com/Archives/ |
| Monday September 06 18:35:18 2004 Re: passions still going on?? |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> what up with Passions? Should we be on the lookout today > (monday) for more bondage action with Paloma?? or did it > end on friday? Programming note for St. Louis people, should there be something from today, this episode will run at 2:30 am due to the telethon. |
| Brian R |
| Monday September 06 19:11:50 2004 Re: passions still going on?? |
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> should there be > something from today, this episode will run at 2:30 am > due to the telethon. There was a brief segment where the villian was trying to rape her. She was fighting back so he tied her hands in front.They were laying on the ground and she reached up and grabbed a rock and smasheed him on the head.This happens near the begging of the show. Near the end he comes up and grabs her again. This could turn into something but the way it's set up I think her brother is going to climb out of the rubble and save her. She's not gagged today. An add for Days of our lives that ran during the show showed John and Bo finding the missing people on the island. Bo asks where's Hope and they cut to a close up profile of Hope getting hand gagged from behind and it looked like there might have been a knife at her neck. This also could turn into something. At the very least a definite hand gag for those interested in that sort of thing. |
| Mark C |
| Monday September 06 20:11:20 2004 Re: theatre bondage |
| Mad Dan wrote:
> There's a stage version of "The Collector", in > which Marianne Faithfull and Janet Fielding appeared in > London back in the '70s and '80s. Waaa????. Janet Feilding?...The Collector on stage (no doubt more faithfull to the level of bondage in the book). Please tell me someone knows of some piccies!. |
| Triple X |
| Monday September 06 20:26:34 2004 'Gilligan' Doesn't Like Reality Show |
| "The Real Gilligan's Island," set to debut on TBS in November, will feature seven castaways: a real-life skipper, a first mate, a millionaire couple, a movie star, a professor and an innocent farm girl. The show will pit them against the elements to see if they can devise a way to get off the island. "
"The castaways will even relive some of the bizarre scenarios from the original series, an idea that made Denver chuckle. " "I'd like to see them put a lion or a tiger on the island, but I really don't think that would happen. Or they could get real headhunters from Borneo and put them on the island," Denver said. " Ah, headhunters! Now we're getting somewhere with this reality-series jazz. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=494&ncid=763&e=5&u=/ap/20040906/ap_en_tv/tv_gilligan_s_island |
| Hermango |
| hermango@hotmail.com |
| Monday September 06 20:38:47 2004 I don't get it |
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| The Moderator |
| Monday September 06 20:51:52 2004 Kidnapped |
| One thing I wondered, is what percentage of movies have the word "Kidnap" or "Captive" or "Hostage" or "Abduction"?
I'd have to say that a majority are misleading. Of course, SVH's episode "Kidnapped" and the movie "Bound" more than live up to the title. |
| Curator |
| http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6321912768&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT |
| Monday September 06 21:10:29 2004 Re: Kidnapped |
| Curator wrote:
> One thing I wondered, is what percentage of movies have > the word "Kidnap" or "Captive" or > "Hostage" or "Abduction"? > > I'd have to say that a majority are misleading. Of > They'd only be misleading if someone wasn't kidnapped or held captive or hostage or abducted ... not if they weren't bound, right? |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Monday September 06 21:21:50 2004 Re: Monday possibles |
| The Moderator wrote:
> I'll allow limited discussion due to the movie, but I > will > be watching this carefully. How did I know you were going to say that? Heh! |
| Anubis |
| Monday September 06 21:27:02 2004 Re: Kidnapped |
| Curator wrote:
> One thing I wondered, is what percentage of movies have > the word "Kidnap" or "Captive" or > "Hostage" or "Abduction"? Don't know about those, but almost every film I've seen that has the word "Obsession" in it's title has had a bondage scene. Offhand the ones I can recall are: Obsession Evil Obsession Hidden Obsession Private Obsession Deadly Obsession Acts of Obsession Blind Obsession Im sure a check of the DB would reveal some others too. |
| Anubis |
| Monday September 06 21:35:14 2004 Re: theatre bondage |
| Triple X wrote:
> > Waaa????. Janet Feilding?...The Collector on stage (no > doubt more faithfull to the level of bondage in the > book). I think the play is, actually. A write-up of the Faithfull production said she spent a lot of the time tied naked to a chair, occasionally gagged. Not my cup of tea, nudity! The Fielding version was a short-term thing at a Soho joint called Raymond's Revuebar. > Please tell me someone knows of some piccies!. I've never heard of any pics, though I'm sure some must have been taken; nearly all theatrical shows are recorded in one way or another. Anyone know? |
| Mad Dan |
| Monday September 06 21:43:57 2004 Re: Kidnapped |
| Anubis wrote:
> Curator wrote: > > Don't know about those, but almost every film I've seen > that has the word "Obsession" in it's title has > had a bondage scene. > Offhand the ones I can recall are: > > Obsession > Evil Obsession > Hidden Obsession > Private Obsession > Deadly Obsession > Acts of Obsession > Blind Obsession > > Im sure a check of the DB would reveal some others too. I'd add that any tv show episode with the title of "Past Tense" is a good bet for some b&g action. Flipper is the only one that pops into my head right now but I know there were at least 3 others. Maybe the DB will have the others. |
| Monday September 06 22:42:37 2004 Re: Live Theatre Scenes |
| Mark O wrote:
> interesting to find bondage in live theater One went to see after alerted on this page was "Science Fiction" Plot about a burned out Sci-Fi Writer and a girl held by a paranoid idiot and his goofy partner. Kind of humourous. No gags, but there was some handcuff action. There was a later scene, but the actress merely sat with her hands behind her. Recall I phoned upstairs about this later scene at the time, and response from Discussion reviewers & War Room in St Louis: "No Goal, Ropes Didn't Cross the Wrists" ;) But, another actress may be more creative? |
| Jay L |
| Monday September 06 23:25:58 2004 Re: Monday possibles |
| nothing on Tonights eppy of "Hawaii"
I screwed up trying to tape "North Shore" so I don't know what I missed the episode was titled "ties that bind" fer cryin out loud I seem to recall that one of those shows... north shore. the O.C. etc had a scene reported several months ago but I can't recall which any help or update on North Shore tonight would be appreciated |
| Snowcat |
| Monday September 06 23:27:20 2004 Re: Live Theatre Scenes |
| Joe Orton's "What the Butler Saw" was in London for years and occasionally occurs in local amateur groups. In it there are two girls in Strait Jackets for extended periods |
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