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Friday October 29 00:09:25 2004
Re: 24 - already a scene?
Brick wrote:

> Viking wrote:
> > I thought the same with it being a blindfold and not
> a
> > gag.

Actually i beg to differ. I saw this scene, and i hit the instant replay button on my tivo and i put it in slow mow....well it was a blindfold and there was a thin black cleave....just thought i would put in my two cents
Blockbuster Dude
Friday October 29 00:50:00 2004
Re: Penelope Pitstop & Wonderfalls
CM wrote:

> The release date for "Wonderfalls"
> which had been scheduled for December 7th has now been
> pushed back to January 18th.

FOX has now pushed back the release date for "Wonderfalls" for a THIRD TIME! The new date is February 1st and that date appears to be final.
CM
Friday October 29 01:14:22 2004
Re: TLN New Show Alert- "No Problems, Only Solutions"
Canucks & Northern Yanks:

Had on TLN channel whilst reviewing tonight's scene from Distretto di polizia 3, caught the Ad, so:

Sequestro Soffiantini, Il (2002)

There is a lady being gagged with black tape or something.

Re: "martedì {Italian} & martes {Spanish} = Tuesday"

Read Martedi 20:30
So keep an eye on Tuesday nights around 8:30
________________

Collectors:
Descript for Distretto di polizia 3 scene now in DB, ep: "Il Coraggio di Parlare"
One of our Italian friends likely to ID the lady
Jay L
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0307827/
Friday October 29 08:01:50 2004
Corazones al Limite
I do think that Fuzz is owning a tape with Telenovela-scenes, and there is also a scene with two ladies tied and cleave-gagged, one of them Miss Maldonado, (regarding his tape-descriptions) in Corazones al Limite; it might be the scene which will continue right through these days.
another Guest
Friday October 29 08:56:46 2004
Re: A question for our European guests
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I was on Overlaid's page and saw a cap from a commercial
> with Valeria Mazza tied and tape gagged. Apparently, this
> was from a hoisery ad filmed with Antonio Banderas and
> did not run in the US.

'2 n d P A N T Y H O S E C O M M E R C I A L W I T H V A L E R I A
MINOR BONDAGE WITH A JAMES BOND TWIST

HOLA!, May 5
Donated by Susan

Susan: It is pretty obvious that the hose is the focus of each shot. Valeria is
wearing stiletto heals that must be at least 5 inches high.

EXCLUSIVE
Antonio Banderas and Valeria Mazza

The two big Latin stars, face to face
Antonio Banderas, great star of the Latin cinema, and Valeria Mazza, the "top
model" most famous and dazzling of all Latin America, face to face in a
publicity "spot" full of action and intrigue: Valeria is gagged and chained and
Antonio, one of the best action stars of the cinema at this moment arrives to
liberate her.

>It is not the first time that Antonio and Valeria, who on the other hand are
two good friends, play the main role in a publicity "spot"; two years ago,
directed by Giusseppe Tornatori, who had a relationship a while ago with Naomi
Campbell-- with whom Valeria is also very good friends --, they already made one
in the Italian location of Chianti, near Florence. Specifically, on that
occasion an international line of hose was promoted. The same happens now. The
story is called "Top secret", and it is been carried out for Film Master.

Antonio, who is arranged to direct his first movie, is one of the best paid
actors from Hollywood; Valeria, who gets married next week in Buenos Aires, is
the "top demanded model" of all Latin America

Both have just played the starring role in Los Angeles a publicity "spot" full
of intrigue and action

OF IMPECCABLE TUXEDO
In the images, Valeria, with a precious red costume very "sexy" and with hose
whose garter is a soft lace, gets tied up and Antonio Banderas with an
impeccable tuxedo along the fine lines of the better films of James Bond, comes
to save her, removing first the handcuffs that they have been placed in pics on
the hands. Everything ends perfect, and as to the stockings, they have not even
a single hole. In the end everything is perfect in the story, as perfect as the
filming of the ÒspotÓ

Photo captions:
Left. Antonio Banderas and Valeria Mazza, moments before beginning the filming.
Right an image very much in the style of the best James Bond films . The "top
Argentine model" and the Spanish actor are the two big Latin stars of the time.
Left, we are in full action and Banderas begins to remove the bandage that gags
Valeria.

Above, another moment during the liberation of the beautiful "top Argentine
model" .

Right, Valeria puts her head on the shoulder of her liberator

Along these lines. Valeria Mazza dazzling in the moments of the publicity "spot"
shot in Los Angeles. Left the beautiful model appears with feet and hands bound
to a kind of column. Below the delicate moment of removing the handcuffs from
the feet.''

The photo link at the page no longer works.

You'd probably need to ask around Banderas or Mazza fansites to get a copy/clip of the ad.
http://www.banderas-mall.com/newstand/newsletters98/4_10.txt
Friday October 29 09:57:20 2004
Re: A question for our European guests
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote: {SNIP}
> The photo link at the page no longer works.
>
> You'd probably need to ask around Banderas or Mazza fansites to get a copy/clip of the ad.
http://www.banderas-mall.com/newstand/newsletters98/4_10.txt

On the other hand, one could go to the beginning (http://banderas-mall.com) & follow the links to the gallery, ads, pantyhose, etc., & find the photos in question (like the one below).
http://www.banderas-mall.com/gallery/ads/Pantyhose%202/V&A3.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Friday October 29 10:48:27 2004
Malevolence
NY Times review of this limited release (1 theatre in Manhattan) mentioned some duct tape action. The website (malevolencemovie.com) has some AOH pix and a shadowy bed shot that look promising. Perhaps someone could do a more detailed analysis of the latter (enhancing...enhancing...).
The Cleaner
Friday October 29 12:21:10 2004
Re: Scene ID
Record number: 8090

Title: G.O.D aka Guaranteed On Delivery, aka Guaranteed Overnight Delivery (2000)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Justine Priestley, Joanna Mason

Description: In the first scene, a beautiful blonde (Priestly) has been drugged, bound, and boxed for shipping. The driver (hero) finds her in the truck he was hired to drive, and frees her. The scene is not so good. All you can do is hear the woman moan, but can't see her gag. The bad guys find out that the shipment didn't go through, so they send their hench girl to kidnap the blonde girl's sister (Mason) from her all-girl school. The scene of her in the warehouse is great. The girl is tied to a chair, bound and gagged with duct tape.

http://www.robs-damsels.com/unknown/2004-10-26/unknown04.jpg
Friday October 29 12:39:08 2004
Re: Scene ID
> Title: G.O.D aka Guaranteed On Delivery, aka Guaranteed
> Overnight Delivery (2000)

Scenes are in the trailer at the link
http://www.guerrillafilmmakers.com/NowShowing/God/god.htm
Friday October 29 13:25:21 2004
Re: Scene ID
> > Title: G.O.D aka Guaranteed On Delivery, aka
> Guaranteed

Actress who plays the lesbian kidnapper is Lisa Crosato, who had a full treatment scene of her own in 'Deadly Ransom'

Friday October 29 13:28:52 2004
Gags as a cop-out?
I've seen a number of DiD screencaps recently in which the gag is clearly visible but the rest is not. For example, someone is sitting in a chair, gagged, and her hands are behind the chair, but you can neither see them nor her feet due to the camera angle. I find that frustrating of course, as to me, nothing says bondage quite like seeing the bonds.

However, I do wonder if that's also because the actress is indeed not bound in any way. For example the Susan St James scene in Macmillan and Wife, in which she was ostensibly tied to a chair and leaned down to dial a phone with her nose. You could see her bound feet, but not her hands, however she did her best to play up the scene for realistic effect. However, it was said that during the filming of the scene, something startled the actress so much that she jumped in her chair, briefly pulling her unbound hands out from behind.

That's one example, but anytime I see someone gagged and sitting as though bound, but no actual bonds in any way, I have to wonder if it's because she isn't even bound.

Does anyone else think that gag emphasis can be a cop-out? A way of saying to the audience "look, she's tied up" without having to actually tie her up (or tie her up convincingly)?
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Friday October 29 13:43:41 2004
'Sin City' (Jessica Alba to be B&G)
Keep an eye for any news on the internet or in entertainment magazines such as Fangoria.

Scene itself could be a DOOZIE
http://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/sinCity_Jessica2.jpg
http://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/sincity_jessica.jpg
Friday October 29 13:49:48 2004
Re: Scene ID

> Description: In the first scene, a beautiful blonde
> (Priestly) has been drugged, bound, and boxed for
> shipping.

How is the girl drugged and is that scene itself any good? Thanks!

AV
Friday October 29 13:55:19 2004
Re: 'Sin City' (Jessica Alba to be B&G)
Jessica Alba is now filming the movie 'Fantastic Four' where she plays Sue Storms. In the 1994 unreleased movie, Rebecca Staab played Storms but the B&G victim was Alicia MAsters. Perhaps this film will change DinDs.


http://badmovieplanet.com/duckspeaks/reviews/2004/the-fantastic-four/
Friday October 29 13:57:20 2004
Re: Gags as a cop-out?
Jazz411 wrote:

> > Does anyone else think that gag emphasis can be a
> cop-out? A way of saying to the audience "look,
> she's tied up" without having to actually tie her up (or tie her up convincingly)?


I absolutely agree. My cousin was in a play once and the lead actress was supposed to be kidnapped--needless to say I was tremendously excited. However, turned out she ended up wearing a lame OTM gag and simply clasped her hands behind her back to imply bondage. Never have I been so disappointed, and I'm sure that goes on while filming scenes. I think, basically, women don't want to be tied up, at least not in front of people.
Friday October 29 13:59:11 2004
Re: Gags as a cop-out?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Jazz411 wrote:
>
> > > Does anyone else think that gag emphasis can be
> a
> > cop-out? A way of saying to the audience "look,
>
> > she's tied up" without having to actually tie
> her up (or tie her up convincingly)?
>
>
> I absolutely agree. My cousin was in a play once and the
> lead actress was supposed to be kidnapped--needless to
> say I was tremendously excited. However, turned out she
> ended up wearing a lame OTM gag and simply clasped her
> hands behind her back to imply bondage. Never have I
> been so disappointed, and I'm sure that goes on while
> filming scenes. I think, basically, women don't want to
> be tied up, at least not in front of people.

Yea man, I totally agree most women do NOT want to be tied up. Especially gagged. I ve tied up a few women, and all went pretty well, until I tried to gag them, and they REALLY balked at that. "no no no, nothing in my mouth"
Darkman II: The Return of Durant
Friday October 29 14:31:15 2004
Re: Scene ID
> How is the girl drugged and is that scene itself any
> good? Thanks!


Spiked drink
Friday October 29 15:06:32 2004
Corazones al Limite
On right now. We have at least ropes and blindfolds. I am not watching so I don't know what else.
RON
Friday October 29 15:26:21 2004
Possible Soap DiD Monday On Y&R
I was flipping thru channels and saw the Monday preview for the Y&R. The redhead, Michelle Stafford I'm pretty sure, was hand-gagged and looked to be in trouble with a guy in a hotel room.

I refuse to post a true alert for what might be only a (Yawn) hand-gag, but it might turn into a real gag later on so I figure it's worth a quick post here.
http://www.soapcity.com/imagerepository/P__secure_scans_library_asset_library_yr_yr_soapcity_generic_yr_stafford_m_230x160_04.jpg
Vince Grey
Friday October 29 15:33:44 2004
SAW
CNN just panned the movie "Saw," but the following comments suggest a scene:
" the interplay between Lawrence's wife and her tormentor are so static... albeit with the actors in chains and gags."

"Unless you happen to relish the image of a killer using a stethoscope to hear the changes in a little girl's heart rate while he holds a gun to her mother's head, ..."
Stressed
Friday October 29 15:53:53 2004
General Hospital
Any scoop for today?
Friday October 29 16:20:47 2004
scene on tonight's Third Watch
Was watching NBC and the preview for tonights Third Watch showed a tapegagged woman. Not sure if she's a guest or a regular.
Friday October 29 16:21:10 2004
Re: General Hospital
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Any scoop for today?

She had her hands tied behind her back. Tied to a chair. No gag. Told the kidnapper to tape her mouth shut if he didn't want to hear the truth about his wife going nuts. He untied her so she could flex her wrists.
Friday October 29 16:52:22 2004
Designing Women, Bob Newhart
Hello All,

A little help please. I seem to recall a scene or two from both Designing Women and one of the Bob Newhart shows, either "Bob" or "Newhart" as they were both distinctly different shows. That may be reaching back for some of us into the 80's, but does anyone have any info or know if caps exist anywhere? Thanks in advance.
PW
Friday October 29 18:03:12 2004
back-to-back
neone no of ne films/tv serieses/books with back-to-back scenes?

cheers
cal
Friday October 29 18:23:08 2004
Re: Gags as a cop-out?
Darkman II: The Return of Durant wrote:

Yea man, I totally agree most women do NOT want to be
tied up - especially gagged.....

Well, let's not be TOO hasty in jumping to conclusions here about this one ....

"no no no, nothing in my mouth"

I've also heard THIS line as well from a few of the more
obstinate ones ........strictly a nuisance distraction from the business at hand that is easily remedied, let me assure you....



Major John
Friday October 29 19:01:54 2004
Re: 24 - already a scene?
Viking wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > Brick wrote:
> >
> > > Just saw a preview on FOX for 24 - season 4.
> Looks
> > like
> > > there was a quick shot of a girl gagged with
> her
> > arms
> > > bound behind her being led somewhere.
> >
> > Saw the same shot, but I thought she was just
> blindfolded
> > with hands tied behind, not gagged. Eyewitness
> accounts
> > always differ.
>
> I thought the same with it being a blindfold and not a
> gag. BTW the previews also stated that 24 is returning in January.

One thing to bear in mind about "24" next season (as well as "Alias") is that the show will run, HBO-style, for the entire season with no repeats, so keep an eye on the alerts page. While it's likely that both shows will repeat over the summer, there's no guarantee.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Friday October 29 19:24:22 2004
No gag clause?
This post was deleted.

Poster: Mag
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Friday October 29 19:25:24 2004
Re: back-to-back
cal wrote:

> neone no of ne

Please do everyone a favor and try to write your messages
in something approaching the English language.

The Moderator
Friday October 29 19:25:51 2004
Re: No gag clause?
This post was deleted.

Poster: Target
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Friday October 29 19:26:20 2004
Re: No gag clause?
Long, long ago, when bear & bison roamed these ranges, all the land was as the Great Spirit made it, & The People were free to hunt & fish their ancestral hunting grounds... there was a web site called "Van's Video Vault", in which I presented my collection of DiDcaps together with "clever" comments (at no extra charge.) It went the way of all geocities pioneer sites, destroyed by false promises & the greed of the Yahoo Devils.

Anyhoo... I had a page of ALEXANDRA PAUL DiDcaps from Baywatch (aka the Hasselhoof Horror Hour), I made a *JOKING* reference to the no gag clause in Alexandra's contract being the reason she was tied up but never gagged... &...

I'M SORRY!!! Please forgive me!!! It was a joke!!! There *IS* no such thing as a no gag clause!!! {*Sob*, *Sniff*} I'm sorry!!!
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Friday October 29 19:27:45 2004
Reminder
It's a bad idea to write a reply to an off-topic post that also contains topical material. I can't delete half a post.

The Moderator
Friday October 29 20:23:19 2004
Third Watch 6x05
> > 1. Who is tied up. - Amanda Seyfried
> > 2. What she is wearing. - bra and panties
> > 3. How she is tied up. - rough rope sorta
> spreadeagling
> > her to an large old wooden desktop
> > 7. Gagged or not (not because I like gags, but
> because
> >
> > everyone will ask if you don't mention it.) -
> silver
> > duct tape gagged; single piece of tape; tape did not
> > appear to be very well applied at the end of last
> week's episode

vidcap at my new yahoo group.

If you want to cap it for stills, email me for a higher quality version. 6mb.

Oh, the actress could be wrong, don't have a confirmation on it.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps/
Friday October 29 20:26:29 2004
Re: Third Watch 6x05
This is last friday's episode, there is a good chance there will be more of the same tonight.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
Friday October 29 20:29:03 2004
Re: Corazones al Limite
RON wrote:

> On right now. We have at least ropes and blindfolds. I
> am not watching so I don't know what else.


Actually, the rest of the show came thru quite nicely. 2 ladies end up tied, blindfolded, & cleave gagged with knotted bandanas, held hostage in an office building. They are kidnapped in the woods at the beginning of the episode, wrapped in blankets & given injections, and seen at around the 20-minute mark tied & blindfolded, sitting on the floor of the office as the baddies sleep. Much time is spent as they try to untie each other once the bad guys leave. At around the 45-minute mark, the bad guys are on the phone w/ the heroes & the girls have had knotted bandana gags put into their mouths during the call. The next scene they have had the gags removed (still tied & blindfolded) and some action ensues till the rescue shortly thereafter.
Does ANYONE know the names of the actresses? Or even their character names?? (I don't speak Spanish!)
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Friday October 29 20:44:30 2004
Re: General Hospital
> > Any scoop for today?
>
> She had her hands tied behind her back. Tied to a chair.
> No gag. Told the kidnapper to tape her mouth shut if he
> didn't want to hear the truth about his wife going nuts.
> He untied her so she could flex her wrists.

I am so pissed off at this scene! The worst thing about it is that it was as if they were deliberately teasing us. She kept mouthing off and he kept saying "Shut up. Shut up! SHUT UP!" and then she said something like "What are you going to do, tape my mouth shut?" Then after a commercial, he unties her! He decides to let her go. Oh, the frustration!

I suppose there is still a possibility for this scenario. At the end of the episode her boyfriend comes in with a gun and the kidnapper (who is an exact double for her boyfriend) grabs Emily and holds a gun to her head. Perhaps he will change his mind about letting her go.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Friday October 29 20:49:27 2004
Don't forget Hope & faith 2nite
hey everybody Don't Forget
both Hope (Kelly Ripa) and Faith (Faith Ford) will get chained up in a dungeon tonight.

9PM ABC
Snowcat
Friday October 29 21:05:33 2004
Re: A question for our European guests
Van wrote:

> On the other hand, one could go to the beginning

No because the cap/clip in question isn't there.

The pictures aren't in question.
Friday October 29 21:09:12 2004
Re: Designing Women, Bob Newhart
PW wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> A little help please. I seem to recall a scene or two
> from both Designing Women and one of the Bob Newhart
> shows, either "Bob" or "Newhart" as
> they were both distinctly different shows. That may be
> reaching back for some of us into the 80's, but does
> anyone have any info or know if caps exist anywhere? Thanks in advance.

The Bob Newhart one was from the short lived show, Bob, where he's a cartoonist or something. Funny scene with a really cute Cynthia Stevenson. This one and three Designing Women scenes are all in the database.

Tom
frink49@bellsouth.net
Friday October 29 21:24:59 2004
Re: Don't forget Hope & faith 2nite
Snowcat wrote:
hey everybody Don't Forget
both Hope (Kelly Ripa) and Faith (Faith Ford) will get
chained up in a dungeon tonight.
9PM ABC
_______________________________
http://imdb.com/title/tt0366025
Hope & Faith (2003)
Faith Ford (Hope Shanowski)
Kelly Ripa (Faith Fairfield)

8:18pm ct Faith Ford in electric chair
then both get a black net thrown over them
8:26pm ct both have wrists shackled to the wall
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Friday October 29 22:11:38 2004
Re: Corazones al Limite
> Actually, the rest of the show came thru quite nicely. 2
> ladies end up tied, blindfolded, & cleave gagged with
> knotted bandanas, held hostage in an office building.
> Does ANYONE know the names of the actresses? Or even
> their character names?? (I don't speak Spanish!)

Was one of the women Latin singing sensation Belinda? She missed out getting a scene when her charcater on Complices al Rescate was kidnapped. I hoped she would get one in this show.
Torg
Friday October 29 22:15:31 2004
Update
I generally don't pimp my stuff here, but anyone who's been missing the Buffyverse as much as I have in recent months might enjoy my Halloween update this week, which includes my tip of the hat to Mr. Whedon's creation (as well as a crackerjack new story from Frank Knebel, which features a certain well-known horror movie icon). Make with the clicky on the link, and enjoy.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Friday October 29 22:47:52 2004
SpyWare / Internet Viruses
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Major John
www.bindher.com/silentnight
Friday October 29 23:06:11 2004
Re: Gags as a cop-out?
> anytime I see someone gagged and
> sitting as though bound, but no actual bonds in any way,
> I have to wonder if it's because she isn't even bound.

I wouldn't wonder at all. And since the advent of duct tape, lots of times she isn't gagged either.

Paul
Friday October 29 23:17:05 2004
Re: Third Watch 6x05
AsbestosFilter wrote:

> there will be more of the same tonight.

Anyone have scene times for tonight's part II?
Friday October 29 23:32:58 2004
Re: Corazones al Limite
JP wrote:

> Does ANYONE know the names of the actresses? Or even
> their character names?? (I don't speak Spanish!)

That should be Sherlyn as Connie and Sara Maldonado playing Diana.
G-MaN
gman222471@yahoo.com
http://foro.telenovela-world.com/~diane/corazonesallimite/Cast.HTM

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