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Saturday October 16 00:54:23 2004
Re: Replying to Bulletin Board Posts Here
The Moderator wrote:

> > i agree w/you, jay, but it wouldnt let me reply to
> posts
> > on the bulletin board page.
>
> That's right.

Some of that confusion might be because the "reply" button still shows up after the messages on the bulletin board and when clicked it brings you to the "post to AG" page.
Anubis
Saturday October 16 00:58:05 2004
Db entries
Line of Fire 1.05 w/ Leslie Hope.
I've added it to the db 3 or 4 times now, it keeps dissapearing. Not sure why.
I know there have been a (afaik) problem with the db / server once or twice, but I suspect something else is eating the submissions.
Think the number was in the early 10,000s.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
Saturday October 16 01:12:28 2004
policy on sorta-bondage related scenes
Hey, sorry to be a bother, but what is the entry on entries in the db that don't have an actress actually tied up, but have other bdsm overtones (i.e. spankings, handgags, kindnap scenes etc).
To me, a damsel can be in distress even if no restraints are visible, she could be gagged and the villian is holding her hands behing her back or something.
(this isn't related to the previous post btw)

AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
Saturday October 16 03:13:12 2004
Re: Fear Factor
Friendly Fire wrote:
> Pound for pound, hasn't Fear Factor delivered more scenes
> than any other show?

I'm pretty partial to Alias.
3 seasons, and I have 22 episodes capped / waiting to be capped.
If you do the math, that means that you got a scene about every 3 episodes for the last 3 years. I don't think anything else comes close*, although NCIS seems to be moving that direction (woot).
Lighting is usually decent and you get a bunch of closeups.

The DB is severely lacking for this show, so I'm throwing up descriptions as I cap.

* I don't follow soaps, so there might be something more frequent there, but I doubt that they are as addicting and entertaining as Alias.
One thing - if you want to watch it, start from the begining if you want to remain sane & enjoy it.

(Not sure what else you should expect from a show where the pilot had the main character cuffed to a chair and dental gagged :)
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
Saturday October 16 03:20:46 2004
oddities
I think when circumstances dictate, a tv show should get creative when thier is a bondage scene i.e. On "Jag" if Catherine Bell gets gagged, then they should call the show "Gagged'. When Sophie Michaud was b/g on a "Counterstrike" episode her character's name was Gabrielle. Would'nt it have made more sence to call her "Gagrielle" since she tasted the cloth. Just wondering, that's all.
oswald
Saturday October 16 03:28:09 2004
BONDAGE BABES
Hoping to soon see Linsey Lohan get tied up and gagged, but she's only 18, so we still have a long time to get her into a scene. One lady who has continually eluded the gag is Christina Applegate, she's still a hottie of course, but 10 to 15 yrs, from now it will be too late. Perhaps she has a no gag clause. Who is one actress that anyone out there was delighted to not only see in a bondage scene, but also a tight cleve gag as well. For me I have to go back to the 90's, 2 of my favs are Carol Alt in "A bear called arthur' ( thought I'd never see her get the gag), and Kelly Ripa's week long storyline in "AMC" where she was continually gagged and re-gagged with a tight cleve.
Speaking of the soaps, is there any bondage on the horizon for "Gen hospital", back in the summer it seemed a damsel was getting tied up there every week. Personally, I would like to see the Chick who plays Emily taste the gag, another scence for Cyndi Preston would'nt hurt either.
BOBBY BONDAGE
Saturday October 16 03:29:59 2004
Re: The clip, etc.
The Moderator wrote:

> Tim Smith wrote:
>
>
> > As for the site problems, very quickly here are the
>
> > answers. Brian does not want this type of thing here
> so
> > please don't post questions regarding my site on
> this
> > board in the future.
>
> In the future, if someone does and you feel the need to
> answer, do so in a self-contained message so it can be
> moved.

Not a problem Mr. Mod. Thank you for the direction. I honestly did not know how to approach this one. Still getting used to having no AG to address off-topic messages, especially when people don't leave me an email address to contact them.
Tim Smith
verywavy@yahoo.com
http://www.slumberville.com/
Saturday October 16 05:40:38 2004
Re: Video clips
What is the address to Frank's Attic Yahoo Club?

Any help?
Pete..
Saturday October 16 07:02:41 2004
A Twist (Yumi Adachi Scene)
Referring to the guy's statement that there couldn't be a blindfold-scene with TAPE, I assure you that Miss Adachi's blindfold in SUSPENSE consists of exactly that material; it covers her eyes and nothing else (perhaps it did not stick on for a long time, but it worked for the scene).
Guest
Saturday October 16 07:08:39 2004
Valerie Hobson in Meet me tonight
A nice pic with one of Miss HObson's full-treatment-scenes, this time in Meet me tonight (the guy needn't be tied up, too):

http://www.britishpictures.com/photos2/photo124.htm
verrrybritish
Saturday October 16 07:46:42 2004
Re: A Twist (Yumi Adachi Scene)
Guest wrote:
> Referring to the guy's statement that there couldn't be a
> blindfold-scene with TAPE, I assure you that Miss
> Adachi's blindfold in SUSPENSE consists of exactly that

Chloe Hunter cuffed spread eagle naked in "Spun" would also disagree.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
Saturday October 16 09:48:31 2004
Vid clips
I'm always amazed when something I try on the 'puter works. Anyway, I'm thinking that a lot of you younger guys haven't seen the golden era stuff, so I'll post and rotate clips at my group. Here's the info to find it.

For more information: http://www.franksattic.net
Post message: franksattic@yahoogroups.com
Subscribe: franksattic-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe: franksattic-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
List owner: franksattic-owner@yahoogroups.com

For the guys around my vintage, ie. David Knight, Brian R., Lenny S., Bindher, what clips should I post that show the 60s-thru-80s were the real golden years?
Frank J
skynyd@yahoo.com
http://www.franksattic.net
Saturday October 16 09:48:51 2004
Van's Fiction is Updated!
Chapter 2 of "RAGE AGAINST the MACHINE is up (so to speak). Enjoy!
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/vans-fiction-banner-500.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Saturday October 16 09:50:57 2004
Re: old soap scenes
>>>>>>Tapemaster wrote:

>>>>How can you be so sure of that?<<<<<

Sure that the soaps of the 70's weren't as packed with bondage as the 80's?

Well, you got me there. I can't be 100% sure I'm right, but it's my THEORY that the bondage explosion (Especially gag scenes) on soaps in the early 80's is directly tied to a group of events that occured roughly about the same time:

1. (Most) Soaps went to an hour-long format.
2. Several new soaps were added, increasing competition.
3. Soap budgets were dramtically increased.
4. Soap writers began adding wild sci-fi/adventure/horror plotlines.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
The Greyman
Saturday October 16 10:03:06 2004
Re: Fear Factor
AsbestosFilter wrote:

> Friendly Fire wrote:
> > Pound for pound, hasn't Fear Factor delivered more
> scenes
> > than any other show?
>
> I'm pretty partial to Alias.
> 3 seasons, and I have 22 episodes capped / waiting to be
> capped.

Also, IIRC, Alias has the unique distinction of starting the pilot episode with the lead actress already in bondage. I can't think of another show where that's the case. I had high hopes for the show and remember thinking, "Wow, didn't have to wait long for that!"
Tom
frink49@bellsouth.net
Saturday October 16 10:37:30 2004
Re: Vid clips
Frank J wrote:

> For the guys around my vintage, what clips should I post >that show
> the 60s-thru-80s were the real golden years?

As a fellow dinosaur, I've been looking for that 'General Hospital' scene featuring a young Demi Moore and two others tied and gagged. What is interesting about that scene is that the damsels 'break kafabe' and talk fairly understandbly through their cleave gags. They don't even pretend that they can only 'mmmph' :-)

Jacot
Saturday October 16 11:18:17 2004
Re: Holy Grail
>>>>>>Van wrote:

>>>>>I confess I carried a serious torch for Toni, back in the
day.<<<<<<

If I remember, she was kind of hot. Not much of a rack, but killer legs.


The Greyman
Saturday October 16 11:55:22 2004
Missed chance
When this scene was developing, I really thought we might finally get Jaclyn Smith and Cheryl Ladd gagged, since the bad guy was grabbing them one by one and the party was upstairs. Too bad.
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/features/angelsi03.jpg
Saturday October 16 12:24:29 2004
Re: Replying to Bulletin Board Posts Here
Anubis wrote:


> Some of that confusion might be because the
> "reply" button still shows up

Hmmm. I guess I should deal with that.

The Engineer
Saturday October 16 12:32:36 2004
VCR Alerts
> Hmmm. I guess I should deal with that.
----
Another item on the "Usability" wishlist would be to remove "2003" from the VCR Alerts dropdown box. If the poster accidentally picks the 2003 rather than the 2004, their post will not appear.
Kinky-napper
Saturday October 16 12:40:25 2004
Re: Db entries
AsbestosFilter wrote:

> Line of Fire 1.05 w/ Leslie Hope.
> I've added it to the db 3 or 4 times now, it keeps
> dissapearing. Not sure why.

This isn't really the place to bring up problems with
the DB. I will start a thread over on Database
Corrections addressing this specific topic.

> I know there have been a (afaik) problem with the db /
> server once or twice,

There are no known problems with the DB. Server problems
are outside our control.

> but I suspect something else is
> eating the submissions.

Well, the most likely thing that would remove and entry
is one of the editors.

Brian R
Saturday October 16 12:42:39 2004
Re: policy on sorta-bondage related scenes
AsbestosFilter wrote:

> Hey, sorry to be a bother, but what is the entry on
> entries in the db that don't have an actress actually
> tied up, but have other bdsm overtones (i.e. spankings,
> handgags, kindnap scenes etc).

Handgags yes, spanking or general fetish stuff, no.
There must be an attempt at restraint.

> To me, a damsel can be in distress even if no restraints
> are visible, she could be gagged and the villian is
> holding her hands behing her back or something.

That would be acceptable as well.

Brian R
Saturday October 16 13:21:51 2004
Re: VCR Alerts
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Another item on the "Usability" wishlist would
> be to remove "2003" from the VCR Alerts
> dropdown box. If the poster accidentally picks the 2003
> rather than the 2004, their post will not appear.

Don't want pile on here, but on the same subject, there is no option to post a VCR alert for 2005, which will likely come up in a few weeks.

Saturday October 16 14:37:45 2004
Re: Holy Grail
Van wrote:

> As I recall... (it's been a while) ...theshow had a
> recurring skit about the adventures of The Bionic
> Watermelon. (I'm *not* kidding.) Anyhoo, Toni is
> kidnapped by a couple of generic stuntman villains.
> She's tied to a chair with rope, her torso lashed to the
> chair & her wrists to the chair's arms. She was
> gagged with an OTM white cloth. As the bad guys menaced
> her, she rolled her eyes, m'mmpfhed, & did a
> memorable job of selling her plight. :-) The Bionic
> Watermelon beats up the villains, rescues Toni, &
> they make out. :-)

I recall that too. Was a wee child and that scene was one of the first that made me realize I had a thing for damsels in distress. I mean, if you're goign to remember "the Bionic Watermelon" there has to be a reason. I remember Tomi doing a great job in her plight. David Ogden Stiers, of MASH fame, was the cyberfruit's boss. I recall the scene being quite short, and Toni was only shot waist up, IIRC.
peril lover
Saturday October 16 14:55:16 2004
Re: Missed chance
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> When this scene was developing, I really thought we might
> finally get Jaclyn Smith and Cheryl Ladd gagged, since
> the bad guy was grabbing them one by one and the party
> was upstairs. Too bad.

IIRC, when "Toni's Boy's" showed up at the party, the head bad guy said something to the effect of "somebody go dowstairs and keep them (the Angels) quiet." I was hoping that we'd see all three in gaggage. Alas, it was not to be...


Gagged Damsel Lover
Saturday October 16 15:13:55 2004
Re: VCR Alerts
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Another item on the "Usability" wishlist would
> be to remove "2003" from the VCR Alerts


Good idea.


The Engineer
Saturday October 16 15:19:49 2004
Re: VCR Alerts
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Don't want pile on here, but on the same subject, there
> is no option to post a VCR alert for 2005, which will
> likely come up in a few weeks.


Yes, but I'm holding off until I do a little rework. We
had the problem of people doing ones over a year in
advance by picking the next year. I want to detect that.

The Engineer
Saturday October 16 15:23:11 2004
Need Some Help...
This post was moved to The Bulletin Board.

Poster: Jake
Reason: Please don't post personal messages here. Use the Trading Forum.
The Moderator
Saturday October 16 17:00:28 2004
Re: Remembering the first time
JP wrote:

> Which gets me thinking, how many folks remember the first
> time they saw a particular type of gag or bondage
> technique?

The earliest hog-tie scene I saw and still vividly remember is this one:

Title: Geheime Mission (1985)
Actress: Brigitte Karner

Description: A great hog-tie/gag scene, this ran over 10 years ago on German TV and bears similarities to Annabelle Sciorra's treatment in "Whispers in the Dark" -- it all happens on-screen, though. Lovely Brigitte Karner, clad in a black dress, black silk stockings and high heels, is
led stumbling into an empty factory hall and pushed down to the ground. Her captor, an East German spy, ties her wrists behind her back, binds her ankles and connects the rope with her hands. He tries to cleave-gag her with a white cloth, but when it doesn't go in (due to her struggles) he applies it for two or three times, securing it finally and firmly between her teeth. I still remember that pithy scene: Lots of struggling and mppphing from the damsel, close-ups, great ropework.

Looking back, I am a little surprised myself that there is no scene before that which I remember, but hog-ties have never been very widespread on mainstream TV.
Peter de K
Saturday October 16 17:07:22 2004
Re: A Twist (Yumi Adachi Scene)
AsbestosFilter wrote:

> Guest wrote:
> > Referring to the guy's statement that there couldn't
> be a
> > blindfold-scene with TAPE, I assure you that Miss
> > Adachi's blindfold in SUSPENSE consists of exactly
> that
>
> Chloe Hunter cuffed spread eagle naked in
> "Spun" would also disagree.

I think both of you missed the point. Not the tape blindfold in itself, but the combination tape blindfold/cloth gag is highly uncommon. Mostly, if a damsel is blindfolded with tape, the same kind of tape is used to gag her (e.g. "Hunter: The Legion", "The Knock" or the aforementioned "Spun".
Peter de K
Saturday October 16 18:07:39 2004
Re: Missed chance
Gagged Damsel Lover wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > When this scene was developing, I really thought we
> might
> > finally get Jaclyn Smith and Cheryl Ladd gagged,
> since
> > the bad guy was grabbing them one by one and the
> party
> > was upstairs. Too bad.
>
> IIRC, when "Toni's Boy's" showed up at the
> party, the head bad guy said something to the effect of
> "somebody go dowstairs and keep them (the Angels)
> quiet." I was hoping that we'd see all three in
> gaggage. Alas, it was not to be...



This was one of the dumbest scenes ever because there was no rescue element! If the bad guy had gagged them before walling them in his cellar, there could've been some suspense because, while 'Toni's boys' had captured the bad guy, they would never find the angels alive, heh, heh,heh... Then one of the angels could've done something to alert the outside world, thus demonstrating that they weren't entirely helpless. Also, I think they were kidnapped at a fashion show, and there's a scene where Toni's boys catch up with the bad guys and the angels, and the bad guy makes them back off by pointing a gun at the angels. needless to say, this scene would've been much better (and made more sense) had they been bound and gagged by this point.
ss
Saturday October 16 18:14:44 2004
Re: Missed chance
Gagged Damsel Lover wrote:
> > When this scene was developing, I really
> thought we
> > might
> > > finally get Jaclyn Smith and Cheryl Ladd
> gagged,
> > since
> > > the bad guy was grabbing them one by one and
> the
> > party
> > > was upstairs. Too bad.

In this week's issue of People, there is a pic of Jaclyn in an ad for something or other (K-Mart?) and I swear to God she is even hotter looking (at least in that pic..yowza!) now than in her Angels days. It's a crying shame she has NEVER been given the full rope & gag treatment (that I know of). Even when she has managed to get tied up (a rarety in itself) it's never been anything other than totally lame. What a waist of a hottie :-(

I sure hope Sarah Michelle Gellar doesn't follow in her footsteps!
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Saturday October 16 18:39:07 2004
Seed of Chucky
I don't know if anybody has talked about this here, but Jennifer Tilly is up to her old tricks again. Follow the URL and click on "Blood Lines" to see JT's latest bondage predicament. Also, if you click on the "Home Movies" link, you will find a link to the trailer, in which Jennifer is shown spread-eagled in bed (no gag in that shot).

This movie looks so bad it must be good. Even better than JT's bondage scene is another scene from the clip where Brittney Spears gets run off the road and blown up by Chucky. Simply awesome!
Tim Smith
verywavy@yahoo.com
http://seed-of-chucky.com/home.html
Saturday October 16 18:44:00 2004
Re: nba stuff
leon wrote:

> any caps of that summer sanders scene from nba stuff?



Can someone elaborate? I've never heard anything about this, and the search feature is down.
Saturday October 16 19:23:32 2004
SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION DEPT.
UPDATED FOR OCTOBER, 2004
There is a new gallery for the star of "Underworld" and "Van Helsing," KATE BECKINSALE. Plus, there's a new fake for JESSICA ALBA. Also, it's SIGNY time again. Vote on the best in bondage for 2004, Oct. 30-Nov. 28th.
http://bindher.com/manipulator/logo2banner.jpg
http://bindher.com/manipulator/beckinsale03.gif
http://bindher.com/manipulator/alba06.gif
Manipulator
manipulator@stillers.com
http://bindher.com/manipulator
Saturday October 16 20:03:11 2004
Thought Crime
Freya Mcallister, the lead in this USA movie, gets tied to a chair--hands behind her back, locked with a cable (?) and legs duct taped to legs of chair (no gag) at about an hour and a half in. Missed the capture. Apparently the escape hinges on her reading the mind of her captor for the combination to the lock on the cable. Showing again Tuesday at 4pm and 1:30am. This looks like it was made as a pilot for a show that would probably be productive in terms of scenes.
ss
Saturday October 16 20:54:38 2004
Re: old soap scenes
The Greyman wrote:

> 1. (Most) Soaps went to an hour-long format.
> 2. Several new soaps were added, increasing competition.
>
> 3. Soap budgets were dramtically increased.
> 4. Soap writers began adding wild sci-fi/adventure/horror
> plotlines.

I'll buy that.

To respond to a couple of recent posts:

I saw the Meg Ryan scene in ATWT and thought it was great. Yes, it was short, but it was far more than I expected to happen.

Also, I hope we aren't going to have "de facto" moderators. Some of the people who have volunteered to do this have picked a lot of fights in the past, so I find it strange they are wanting to "moderate," which by definition calls for some semblance of neutrality.

Just my two cents ...
gasface
Saturday October 16 21:04:02 2004
Re: Eva Langoria


> Jeb wrote:

> I've
> > seen a pic of her that's quite
> > "bondage-fakable": she's kneeling,
> reaching >
> That pic is on the "Maxim online" site, along
> with other highly fakable images of the lovely Ms L there
> and on the FHM site.
>

I've faked one of these pix (not the heel-reaching one - yet)and put it in the Files at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/storiesunbound

It's in the folder "New World Mmmphony." Ms L is depicted doing chores to work off an unpaid ransom. :-)
Mad Dan
Saturday October 16 21:47:35 2004
Re: Vid clips
> For more information: http://www.franksattic.net
> Subscribe: franksattic-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> For the guys around my vintage, ie. David Knight, Brian
> R., Lenny S., Bindher, what clips should I post that show
> the 60s-thru-80s were the real golden years?
> http://www.franksattic.net

SO many classics.

Lisa Pelican from Jeniffer The Snake Godess
Kate Mulgrew from A Stranger Is Watching (sexier than Janeway ever was)
Ally Sheedy from Deadly Lessons (a 9.5 match...doesn't quite make 10 due to lack of mmmpppphing)
Wendy Kilbourne from Midnight Caller (episode title escapes me now)

All 80's ones there.



Triple X
Saturday October 16 22:13:03 2004
Re: policy on sorta-bondage related scenes
> tied up, but have other bdsm overtones (i.e. spankings,
> handgags, kindnap scenes etc).


O object to the suggestion that spamkign or brutality is related to bondage
Saturday October 16 22:27:23 2004
Puppet bondage(!) in TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE.
I don't know if anyone else has noted this, but there are two bondage scenes in the hilarios new marionette movie TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE, one with one of the female team members tied to a chair (arms behind), and another with a tied-up puppet version of Susan Sarandon(!). No gags in either case. Just thought I'd mention it because, realistically, what're the chances of seeing *this* again? ;o)
Robert Knaus
RKNAUS@webtv.net
http://community-2.webtv.net/RKNAUS/SaturdayMorning
Saturday October 16 22:36:26 2004
Re: policy on sorta-bondage related scenes
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> O object to the suggestion that spamkign or brutality is
> related to bondage

What?
anon22
Saturday October 16 22:41:44 2004
Re: policy on sorta-bondage related scenes
>anon22 wrote:
>What?

Good. I'm not the only one ;)
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
Saturday October 16 23:11:03 2004
Arrr %@!#$*!!!!
Canucks & Northern Yanks:

Please tell me one of you with functioning VHS machine caught OMNI 2 Hong Kong film

Defence there?
Thanx
Jay L
Saturday October 16 23:12:00 2004
Grimwell.com advertisement
Saw this banner at the grimwell.com site (link below which is a review of Everquest II). The banners seem to either rotate or be random as this one didn't show up until I viewed the page a few times later.
http://www.grimwell.com/images/banner/grim15.jpg
Kerhop
http://www.grimwell.com/index.php?action=fullnews&id=189
Saturday October 16 23:16:31 2004
Re: Arrr %@!#$*!!!!
> Please tell me one of you with functioning VHS machine
> caught OMNI 2 Hong Kong film

Sing gam diy shut (2004) aka Sex and the Beauties

Favouring

Carina Lau aka Ka-Ling Lau aka Kar-Ling Lau aka Carina Liu aka Jia-Ling Liu

as Tape gagged
Thanx

What a night
Jay L
Saturday October 16 23:53:14 2004
FUZZWEB
Update to FUZZWEB is complete. This time featuring some unidentified scenes from my collection. If you can identify any of the 6 please let me know. Enjoy...
FUZZ
fzfamily@aol.com
http://fuzzweb.net/index.html
Saturday October 16 23:53:43 2004
Re: Arrr %@!#$*!!!!
Jay L wrote:

> > Please tell me one of you with functioning VHS
> machine caught OMNI 2 Hong Kong film

Sorry Jay, I missed it too. Read the description & it didn't sound like anything of interest. Guess I should tape those movies all the time, huh?

zinger

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