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Thursday September 30 00:02:32 2004
Lost
With all the attention paid to Smallville, it appears you missed a scene on tonight's episode of LOST. In a flashback to just before the plane went down, there was a handcuff scene involving the main heroine. Pretty good struggling. I believe ABC is repeating the first two episodes Saturday, 8:00 PM EDS. It will be in the second hour, about half way through.
southbound
southbound@webtv.net
Thursday September 30 00:03:32 2004
Re: NCIS
Pat Powers wrote:

> but I saw a shot of someone who looked a
> lot like NCIS Investigator babe in chains.

And therein, the possibilities abound. Maybe an abduction scene. Intermittent scenes of torment by villain of the week. Mouth mummification mayhap?
LV
Thursday September 30 04:55:49 2004
Re: Mainstream bondage survey
Pat Powers wrote:
Poetry, even more so --
> hell, even I hadn't heard about "The
> Highwayman" until I read about it on this board

We did that one at school when I was 9. The teacher explained "gagged her and bound her" for anyone still unaware of the terms; there were a few "oohs" and "aahs" around the class. It's probably still on the primary syllabus.

Meanwhile, quite well known in the northern half of Britain is this painting by Millais:

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/online/exhibitions/faith/martyrofsolway.asp

Like Joan of Arc, it represents a very sad true story.
Mad Dan
Thursday September 30 05:08:16 2004
About time this came out
The Hillside Strangler movie with C. Thomas Howell that has several explicit bondage scenes is set to be released on DVD November 9th.

Still no word on the other one with Brittany Daniel as Bianchis psychiatrist coming out next year.
http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/96/77/48m.jpg
Anubis
Thursday September 30 07:07:36 2004
A second scene on McLeod's Daughters!!!
Hey everyone, on the link below there are listed the episodes of season 2004 for McLeod's Daughters together with one pic for every episode; one of them shows series regular "Jodi" cleave-gagged in episode 86 "Make or break"; I hope that this scene has not been already discussed above.

http://mcleodsdaughters.ninemsn.com.au/episodes/index.aspx?subsectionid=477
anonymous
Thursday September 30 09:07:16 2004
Smallville: Chloe Gagged... technically
While hopping this sets a new tone for "Smallville" babes this season (You know... GAGGED, instead of constantly being blindfolded and/or knock out) I wasn't all that fired up about the Chloe scene. It was one of those "ever so barely stuck on" duct tape gags that have cursed us so many times before.

A decent scene, preferably with Lana, with a tight cleaved knot-gag, would be highly appreciated indeed.

BTW, did anyone else notice that the gal playing Chloe isn't pictured in the opening credits this year? Does that mean she's leaving... one way or the other?

Vince Grey
Thursday September 30 09:56:45 2004
Re: Smallville: Chloe Gagged... technically


> While hopping this sets a new tone for
> "Smallville" babes this season (You know...
> GAGGED, instead of constantly being blindfolded and/or
> knock out)

Speaking of blindfold scenes, Lana was shown blindfolded in the previews for next week. It looked consensual but it's hard to tell from a preview. It looked like she was about to get kissed by another girl.
Mark C
Thursday September 30 10:12:39 2004
Re: A second scene on McLeod's Daughters!!!
> "Make or break"; I hope that this scene has not
> been already discussed above.

Nope


http://mcleodsdaughters.ninemsn.com.au/img/series4/ep86_3.jpg
Thursday September 30 10:15:08 2004
Re: Smallville
G-MaN wrote:

> Cap at link.

I have to say, my comment about the tightness of the OTM gag on NCIS notwithstanding, that scene and the smallville scene are pretty damned good. The reason from my perspective is that the filming and direction show a sensitivity to depicting the facial expressions, eyes and nose etc., of the struggling helpless DID. They are fairly focused and electric. This is good. Hope it keeps getting better.

doug
doug5759@yahoo.com
Thursday September 30 10:45:21 2004
Re: Smallville: Chloe Gagged... technically
> Speaking of blindfold scenes, Lana was shown blindfolded
> in the previews for next week. It looked consensual but
> it's hard to tell from a preview. It looked like she was
> about to get kissed by another girl.

"Clark (Tom Welling) faces a surprising new foe in the form of a shy high school girl (guest star Brianna Lynn Brown) who turns to plastic surgery to enhance her looks and boost her popularity. However, things go awry when she discovers that her kryptonite - enhanced beauty causes harm to anyone she kisses - and she decides her next victim will be Lana (Kristin Kreuk)."
Thursday September 30 10:48:37 2004
Re: Smallville: Chloe Gagged... technically
> Speaking of blindfold scenes, Lana was shown blindfolded
> in the previews for next week.

Caps at link
http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/files/smallville/caps/403-1.htm
Thursday September 30 11:06:41 2004
Re: Smallville: Chloe Gagged... technically
Chloe will be gagged again in episode 7 ('Jinxed') according to the spoiler:

"During possibly the Championship game, Mikail gets Clark’s attention by carrying Chloe’s press pass. Clark calls a timeout. Jason says “Are you out of your mind? You just blew our last time out.” Clark grabs Mikail and asks where Chloe is. Mikail threatens “If you want to see her alive you should make sure the Crows lose this game…You walk off this field, Chloe dies. You make touchdown and Chloe dies.”

Jason then calls Clark back to the game. Clark scans the crowd to see what Mikail’s done to Chloe. He then uses his superhearing and drowns out the crowd, band, etc. He hears her screaming for “Help” through her taped mouth. Then he uses his X-ray vision to see through some sort of metal. He calls for Crozer to help him make a play on the field."
Canuck
http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/files/smallville/spoilers.htm
Thursday September 30 11:08:28 2004
Re: Smallville next week
> Speaking of blindfold scenes, Lana was shown blindfolded
> in the previews for next week. It looked consensual but
> it's hard to tell from a preview. It looked like she was
> about to get kissed by another girl.

"Jason says “I’ll be right back”. It seems Jason is surprising Lana with something because he has her blindfolded. Lana smiles and is left on a stage. Abby uses this chance to kiss Lana. Lana is freaked out and Abby runs away. Lana sees her reflection in the mirror and her face is disfigured like Brett’s. The actual face is normal. It’s the reflection they see."

Thursday September 30 11:42:57 2004
Re: Smallville: Chloe Gagged... technically
> While hopping this sets a new tone for
> "Smallville" babes this season (You know...
> GAGGED, instead of constantly being blindfolded and/or
> knock out)

Right, this show now has 3 hot girls and next week a very hot guest star. Among all the shows we write about here it's one of the most watchable; and that's important to me because I don't just hunt good scenes, I actually like good television.
Thursday September 30 12:36:52 2004
Re: Smallville:
> Right, this show now has 3 hot girls

That it does
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Clovel/banall.jpg
Thursday September 30 12:38:57 2004
Re: Smallville:
> Right, this show now has 3 hot girls
>

A threesome B&G scene can't be too much to ask for, can it?

http://www.nancydrewworld.com/wingedlion/usint4nd65.gif
Brainiac
Thursday September 30 13:20:47 2004
Re: A second scene on McLeod's Daughters!!!
> regular "Jodi" cleave-gagged in episode 86
> "Make or break"; I hope that this scene has not
> been already discussed above.

Synopsis at the link
http://www.fans-of-mcleods.com/episode-086.html
Thursday September 30 15:03:59 2004
kinda scene headsup for the last week or so
family bonds 1x02, (hbo miniseries about bailbondsmen) girl getting arrested at work

ncis 2x01, as above, blindfold, gag, confirmed, bunch of "through a camera" scenes (i.e. bw) but also a nice bit at the end.

I have the episodes, but am so backlogged in capping (like, oh, 86 or so episodes) that I have no clue when I will get around to it.

If you're into magazines, page 35 of the Octover 2004 Latina has a cutie wearing a leather collar with a leash (more like a leather choker, but whatever)
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
Thursday September 30 15:05:33 2004
Re: kinda scene headsup for the last week or so
AsbestosFilter wrote:
> ncis 2x01, as above, blindfold, gag, confirmed,

For the gag snobs, otm black cloth (folded bandanna?)
fair bit of mmphing, her hands are tied behind her back, but i dont recall seeing the actual restraints.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
Thursday September 30 15:08:16 2004
Re: Smallville: Chloe Gagged... technically
(unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> Right, this show now has 3 hot girls and next week a very
> hot guest star.

It does indeed feature three hot actresses. One of the characters, Lois Lane, is talkative, feisty, headstrong, independent, and posseses an acerbic wit. Yo put it succinctly, she is the perfect candidate for the next bondage scene in this series. She definitely needs to be bound and gagged.
I can envision a scenario in which Clark Kent discovers her bound and gagged, and jests about her being silenced before removing her gag.
Hadji
Thursday September 30 15:15:18 2004
New clip
New clip in PantyDiDCap site.

Saluti.

Andrew
usa182@libero.it
http://www.pantydidcap.tk
Thursday September 30 15:24:01 2004
Doctor Spectrum
The image is a reduced-size version of a pic (the only one like it) from this week's issue #2 of Marvel's "Doctor Spectrum" series. The "homepage" link will take you to the larger version.
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound/files/ds0904a.jpg
Jeb
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound/files/ds0904.jpg
Thursday September 30 15:44:43 2004
Re: Doctor Spectrum
WOW.
Mad Dan
Thursday September 30 18:05:25 2004
Re: teenage mutant ninja turtles

>
> > Hadji wrote:
> >
> Of these 10 or so scenes to which you allude, how many
> featured the damsel being bound and gagged?

To the best of my recollection, pretty much all of them. (I'm still looking for caps from the one featuring April getting tied/gagged to a chair by Rocksteady and Bebop after being caught snooping around a truck outside.)
Thursday September 30 18:07:18 2004
Kelly Ripa
At my new job we have a TV, and so I've been watching the Regis and Kelly show. As one would expect, I've developed a crush on Kelly Ripa. I know she had several soap opera scenes....does anyone have caps?

Thanks
McBain
Thursday September 30 18:35:52 2004
Re: teenage mutant ninja turtles
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>
> >
> > > Hadji wrote:
> > >
> > Of these 10 or so scenes to which you allude, how
> many
> > featured the damsel being bound and gagged?
>
> To the best of my recollection, pretty much all of them.

Thank you for answering my question. Are these episodes of this cartoon on a DVD? Perhaps someone can perform screen captures from the DVD, if it exists.
Hadji
Thursday September 30 18:37:41 2004
All time TV series champ?
Any historians out there who know which TV series holds the record for most bound and gagged scenes (soaps don't count)?
At 9 seasons long I would guess The Avengers (61-69). Man from Uncle was only 1964-1968, Lois and Clark was 5 years, Buffy 7; but I feel like I'm forgetting some major shows.

I think a scene must include a gag; just tied would skew the numbers. Anyone just know the answer; wouldn't want to start anyone counting, just curious if someone has already figured this out.
Thursday September 30 18:43:32 2004
Desperate Housewives New Sexy Star
Hey Guys,

I saw a commercial for the new ABC series "Desperate Housewives" during Monday Night Football. The show stars perennial damsel Teri Hatcher. However, has anyone noticed the sexy Latina mamacita Eva Longoria who co-stars? FREAKING HOT!!! It's funny b/c the first thing I did after I found out her name was look for scenes with her in our beloved database. Nothing came up :( Then I searched for sexy pictures of my new #1 damsel wish list. Well, those lucky genius bastards at Maxim interviewed her one time and check out the 3rd comment in the link provided. This beautiful temptress talks about how she likes to be tied up and rendered submissive and helpless. Damn!!!

Let's just hope that she gives some input to the writers about various epidsode plots. "Umm, guys, how an epidsode called 'Hostage Housewives' where a burglar invades and ties each of us up in our own homes".

I'm sure Teri would be more than happy to offer her vast experience to "show Eva the ropes" of being in DiD scene.

Paco The Bandit
http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/html/girl_1021.html
Thursday September 30 18:52:41 2004
Re: All time TV series champ?
I'm too lazy to check the database, but I'd suggest you'd get good numbers out of Superman, Sky King, and Roy Rogers, just for starters.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Thursday September 30 19:17:05 2004
Re: Def Jam: Fight for NY scene
Jazz411 wrote:

> It was mentioned before that the game Def Jam: Fight for
> NY (developed by AKI, makers of the N64's best wrestling

Cool, thanks for posting. Too bad there isn't an easy way (that I know of) to grab caps from console games. I've run across bondage in several lately. 007: Everything or Nothing, Sudeki, Red Dead Revolver, Legacy of Kain: Defiance...

> Too bad the bonds themselves aren't visible. Rendering
> actual rope in 3D is something I've rarely seen (though

I've tried it with Poser and it's pretty darn tedious. Of course I'm not that great with Poser; someone who is better at it than I might not have as rough of a time. But most of the Poser images that I've seen from other people that use rope don't look all that great.

The best Poser bondage I ever pulled off was using a pair of handcuffs that I bought from DAZ. I've never shown them to anyone before, but as I was writing this I decided what the heck. They can be seen at the URL in the homepage field.
CollectorX
collectorx@gagsnroses.com
http://www.gagsnroses.com/poser/
Thursday September 30 19:19:15 2004
Site Update
Bah. Meant to put this in my other post. Wife was carrying on about stormwater run-off. :p

Site updated with 22 caps from "Devil's Prey".
CollectorX
collectorx@gagsnroses.com
http://www.gagsnroses.com
Thursday September 30 20:06:00 2004
Re: Can anyone identify this scene?
Hadji wrote:

.
> The memories and knowledge of the readers of this page
> never ceases to astound me. May I ask how you were able
> to recall this obscure movie, Paolo? Was the actress famous at one time?

Maybe in France, where she played in a few comedies and some spy stories. I don't know if she has scenes other the three listed in the DB. I am looking for the one with Eddie Constantine that I saw 40 years ago, like other movies with the same actor.

paolo
Thursday September 30 20:11:34 2004
Desperate Housewives
> I saw a commercial for the new ABC series "Desperate Housewives". The show
stars perennial damsel Teri Hatcher. However, has anyone noticed the sexy Latina mamacita Eva Longoria who
co-stars?

> Let's just hope that she gives some input to the writers about various episode plots. "Umm, guys, how an
episode called 'Hostage Housewives' where a burglar invades and ties each of us up in our own homes".
----
Co-stars Nicollette Sheridan and Marcia Cross also have standout DiD scenes in their resumes.
Kinky-napper
Thursday September 30 20:22:14 2004
Re: NCIS
LV wrote:

> Pat Powers wrote:
>
> > NCIS Investigator babe in chains.
>
> And therein, the possibilities abound. Mouth
> mummification mayhap?

Hey, guys--check out my post from Wedenesday at 19:26 and the two replies that follow.
Rich McGill
Thursday September 30 20:34:57 2004
Re: Smallville: Chloe Gagged... technically
Vince Grey wrote:

> BTW, did anyone else notice that the gal playing Chloe
> isn't pictured in the opening credits this year? Does
> that mean she's leaving... one way or the other?


Chloe was apparently killed in an explosion in last season's finale and there was talk of her not coming back. A big issue of this season's first couple of episodes was Clark seeking the truth about what happened to Chloe. She was not in the opening credits because they did not want to spoil the surprise that she was still alive (and best of all, tied and gagged!)
Thursday September 30 20:52:31 2004
Re: All time TV series champ?
> I think a scene must include a gag; just tied would skew
> the numbers. Anyone just know the answer; wouldn't want
> to start anyone counting, just curious if someone has
> already figured this out.

We discussed this subject at length about two years ago. I did some research in Brian's database and came up with the chart you'll see at the homepage link (warning -- naked woman at top of page, not work safe, though if you scroll down it's all text) -- compares Avengers, Walker Texas Ranger, Superman, Scarecrow and Mrs. King, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Girl from U.N.C.L.E., Adventures of Lois and Clark and X-Files. If gags are your fave, the Avengers is the champ, but Xena wins the highest number of overall scenes. Interestingly, X-Files and Adventures of Superman have by far the highest ratio of gagged/bondage scenes ... nobody else is even close.
Pat Powers
http://www.jollyroper.com/banter/summer02/numbers.html
Thursday September 30 20:59:08 2004
Re: All time TV series champ?
Pat Powers wrote:

> Interestingly, X-Files and Adventures
> of Superman have by far the highest ratio of
> gagged/bondage scenes ... nobody else is even close.

Whoops, make that X-Files and Xena Warrior Princess, with Xena in the lead.
Pat Powers
Thursday September 30 21:04:11 2004
Re: All time TV series champ?
> We discussed this subject at length about two years ago.
> I did some research in Brian's database and came up with
> the chart you'll see at the homepage link (warning --
> naked woman at top of page, not work safe, though if you
>

I'm very surpised that The Man From Uncle didn't make the list.It has 40 scenes listed in the db.I didn't take the time to count the gag scenes but it has several.
Mark C
Thursday September 30 21:16:21 2004
Tape Gags Rule!
This post was moved to The Bulletin Board.

Poster: Chris
Reason: This is a pointless and divisive topic. No good comes of it. All messages so far will be on the BB.
The Moderator
Thursday September 30 21:37:38 2004
Re: All time TV series champ?
> If gags are your fave, the Avengers is the champ, but Xena
> wins the highest number of overall scenes. Interestingly,
> X-Files and Adventures of Superman have by far the highest
> ratio of gagged/bondage scenes ... nobody else is even
> close.

Thanks Pat, I don't remember all the Superman shows but I do remember all of The Avengers. It's interesting how good X-Files and Lois and Clark were.

Thursday September 30 21:48:16 2004
Re: All time TV series champ?
Mark C wrote:

> > We discussed this subject at length about two years
> ago.
> > I did some research in Brian's database and came up
> with
> > the chart you'll see at the homepage link (warning
> --
> > naked woman at top of page, not work safe, though if
> you
> >
>
> I'm very surpised that The Man From Uncle didn't make the
> list.It has 40 scenes listed in the db.I didn't take the
> time to count the gag scenes but it has several.

I'm surprised that "Hunter" isn't mentioned in this list. As I recall, that series featured a bonanza of scenes in which comely actresses were bound and gagged. It seemed to me that a damsel was tied up on that show every other episode.
Hadji
Thursday September 30 22:52:04 2004
Mainstream bondage survey
> > For Shakespearians: The "Taming of the Shrew" opening scene with Bianca (wrists bound behind) being dominated by sister Katherine.

Science-fiction: "Dune" (book + movie
adaptations) w/ Lady Jessica firmly gagged to prevent her from unleashing Bene Gesserit "Voice" on the evil Baron Harkonnen and Piter de Vries.
> > >
> I have problems with the notion that your average mainstream moviegoer would remember any Shakespeare outside of a few lines from "Romeo and Juliet" or "Julius Caesar."
----
"Taming of the Shrew" was required high school reading for me. It's one of the more "accessible" Shakespearian plays -- What a way to jolt students muttering about having to read Shakespeare than piquing their interest with an opening scene with a dominatrix theme? Wow - Shakespeare still rocks, they think.

And it's one of the easier Shakespearian plays to stage by high school & college drama clubs and stage companies (as well as Moonlighting's "Atomic Shakespeare" b&g version). A bonus is that Bianca is written as the town beauty, so the actress portraying her is usually easy on the eyes.

What makes the "Dune" b&g scene stand out for me is that Lady Jessica's gag *IS* the driver of both her scene w/ Baron Harkonnen ("Such a pity you must remain gagged. We could have such an interesting conversation.") + the following scene after the the two assassins (including one specially-selected deaf guard) are ordered to fly them out to desert and dispose of their bodies.

Will Jessica be able to "entice", or son Paul be able to trick the men into taking her gag off, before they're killed? Was Paul faking unconsciousness when Piter used sign language to the deaf guard? -- she can't ask him if he knows, or warn him of the danger. And even if her gag is removed before they're knifed, how can she take out both of them before the deaf guard shoots/knifes them?
Kinky-napper
Thursday September 30 23:30:06 2004
Re: Def Jam: Fight for NY scene
CollectorX wrote:

> I've tried it with Poser and it's pretty darn tedious.
> But most of the Poser images that I've seen from other
> people that use rope don't look all that great.

That got me thinking. Are you aware of Half-Life 2 and its material physics? I downloaded the leaked alpha/beta (so sue me, I'm going to buy the game anyway), and played around with the physics demo. Mattresses moved like mattresses, wood moved like wood, and watermelons floated in the water while other objects sunk. Above all, it was the mattresses that impressed me most. They bent realistically, slumped against walls and fences realistically, etc, and that got me to thinking about something...

Rope physics. Picture it. Imagine polygonal rope, divided, ala HL2's mattress, into many individual parts which move, tighten, stretch and stay together realistically. It may be years away, but with realism-crazed companies focusing their current efforts on making wood, metal, and mattresses bent, twist and break like the real thing, it's only a matter of time before they apply such physics to other objects including rope. They probably won't do it with bondage in mind of course, but instead things such as rope climbing. Later, if they need to do cutscenes with characters tied up, they'd use their pre-existing rope physics to make the scenes more convincing. That's my guess.

And if they do, it would make rope bondage in 3D animation look more realistic. As it is, companies have to animate the rope separately and hope it looks convincing. In those pics of Def Jam: Fight for NY, you'll notice no rope is even visible and only the tape gag is (gag snobs, just wait until "cloth physics" are introduced!).

So, just wait until "rope physics" and "cloth physics" exist. It'll make virtual bondage easier to pull off and infinitely more convincing.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net

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