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Monday September 13 01:01:41 2004
Re: UNFABULOUS
Caesar wrote:

>
> Between 15-22 minutes into the show (right around the
> 18-19 min mark). Also replays on NIK2
>

Classic example of short but sweet, to my mind. See the new DB entry for details.

Thanks, Caesar.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Monday September 13 01:12:36 2004
Re: Our regular sites
Tim Smith wrote:


> Keep in mind that "back then", people wishing
> to share DID material on web sites had the option of
> using free web hosting services.

That's the point I was going to bring up. It's much
easier to start up a site when there's really no
investment. You can get an idea, mess around with it,
let the concept develop.

Let's face it, if I hadn't had Tripod to start this
one out on, it probably never would have happened
either. It's not just "our thing" either, the heyday
of the free sites on every conceivable topic is
slipping away.

The good thing is that the components for those who
have to switch have gotten cheaper. Bandwidth, storage
and domain registration have all come down dramatically
with the advance of technology. But that doesn't help
new people get started.

Things change.

Brian R
Monday September 13 01:13:57 2004
Re: Update

> > http://www.geocities.com/gratefuldead1212

> Link doesn't work?

Demonstrating the point beautifully.

Brian R
Monday September 13 01:22:06 2004
Black Mast DiDcaps posted
I just posted DiDcaps from "Black Mask".

Enjoy.

Why do those dungeon scenes have to be so damn dark? ;-)
http://www.mte.com/perl/b/black_mask/,08_small.jpg
perl
reckonwith69@hotmail.com
http://www.mte.com/perl/b/black_mask/
Monday September 13 06:28:07 2004
Re: Our regular sites
> Jackal wrote:
>
> > Although I'm very grateful to the owners of our
> regular
> > sites I can't help but wonder. About 5 years ago,
> there
> > was a large boom in terms of did sites. There wasn't
> just
> > 4 to chose from but at least 12.
>
In my case at FUZZWEB, lately there hasn't been an update because I just started a new job and have been putting a LOT of overtime in during training. I am planning an update for this coming weekend. There are still at least 12 sites that I know of, some are just not as publicized as others.
FUZZ
fzfamily@aol.com
http://fuzzweb.net
Monday September 13 10:03:48 2004
Re: Our regular sites
>>>>DAK wrote:
>>>>Greyman's a question mark- haven't seen anything there
lately.<<<<<

Believe me when I say that I'm more aware of my lack of updates than anyone. I simply haven't had the time, but at least I'm managing to keep the site up and running- at $20 a month mind you. Hell, I haven't even managed to catch an entire football game. Of course, with my college team 0-2, my Cowboys 0-1, and my High School team 1-2, there ain't much to get excited about.

Not only that, but I just bought a new computer and my old (Realtively speaking) Maxtor 120GB SATA hard drive simply refuses to boot up or copy into the new system with a Maxtor SATA 250GB drive. My data is backed up, but I hate the idea of having to reinstall all that software.

I know this isn't the place for this, (Forgive me moderator) but if any of you think you can help, please email me and I'll go into more details.
Vince Grey
vincegrey@greyweb.org
www.greyweb.org
Monday September 13 10:14:20 2004
Re: Black Mast DiDcaps posted
perl wrote:

> I just posted DiDcaps from "Black Mask".
>
> Enjoy.
>
>
How can a woman be gagged like that, and be in that position, and not be drooling all over the place? Editing? I would have loved to be on the set for that one. I'm a big up fan of gagged drool scenes, but as we all know, they are kind of limited to the commercial stuff.
doug
doug5759@yahoo.com
Monday September 13 10:34:44 2004
Re: Our regular sites
Vince Grey wrote:

> >>>>DAK wrote:
> >>>>Greyman's a question mark- haven't seen
> anything there
> lately.<<<<<
I had one of the early DiD capture sites (early means 1994 or so) and I got bounced from several free sites (the last, Freewebs, kept "forgetting'' that I had a subscription for extra bandwidth, so they'd freeze my site every few months.
It's been a pain in the ass, and I finally got my own domain name and I pay for hosting and bandwidth. It's been up and running for awhile and I finally transitioned over this weekend to the new site.
All this is by way of explaining how much aggravation, besides the work, that's involved. Since I now have more amateur stuff than DiD I'm not a top bookmark from here anymore. But I can tell you how hard Fuzz works on his site because we've spoken about it a lot.
All the pics at Frank's Atic, Fuzzweb, Greyman and Biff Barksdale (another class act) are free.
You're welcome.
Frank J
skynyd@sbcglobal.net
http://www.franksattic.net
Monday September 13 11:06:16 2004
Re: Our regular sites
I felt like this bears repeating as updating a site isn't all that big a deal if you have a system in place (see my earlier post below). If anyone is interested in a PHP, ASP, or Javascript automatic update solution let me know and I'll fill you in with the details.

---------------------------------------------
I don't receive a lot of thanks (and am not asking for it by posting here), but my own observations is people complain most about a site not being regularly updated. I've solved that with a little Javascript and PHP coding allowing my site to update itself based on the server date. Some say it takes a long time to do each update, for me it's an hour maybe two at the most per month creating caps and uploading clips for the next month's worth of vids. Since implementing this automatic system I haven't had a single complaint about updating the site "on time". - Kerhop
Kerhop
kerhop@oz.net
http://www.derekbarkers.com/kerhopf/default.html
Monday September 13 12:10:23 2004
"GL"
I only caught the final 15 minutes of "Guiding Light" on Monday (it plays early here), and Michele was not in any danger when shown 45 minutes in, but I didn't see the handgag to start. Obviously a friend did it.

FYI, Gina Tognoni (new Dinah) is now a brunette.
Monday September 13 12:54:58 2004
Scene ID?
Can anyone help me identify this scene? I have it down as "Viper," but I'm not sure if that refers to an episode of either the original or revival TV series by that name, or to one of several movies with the same title, or to something else entirely. (Obviously, I've checked the database, but didn't find anything that looks like a match.)

By the way, the new site is coming along. I expect to have the big spreadsheet that contains all of the scene details done by tomorrow, and then it'll be mainly a matter of finalizing the hosting details and writing the scripts to support searching, maintenance, and so on. I just got the hundredth email asking to be notified when the new site goes live, which is a lot more than I was expecting. Thanks for all the interest...it's definitely helping me stay focused!
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/Viper.jpg
Raffish
raffish@abductor.com
Monday September 13 13:11:21 2004
Re: Scene ID?
Raffish wrote:

> Can anyone help me identify this scene?

It's from "Swift Justice" (I'm pretty sure that was the name of the show, anyway). It ran on UPN in their early days. Can't remember the girl's name, though. She was tied to a chair with a bomb in her lap; nice close-ups.
DAK
Monday September 13 13:40:42 2004
Re: Our regular sites
> Is it ust me, or have I noticed a general malaise lately
> with sites - not updated regularly, or at all? Even with
> the regulars with a few exceptions.
> Just wondering

At the risk of offending the Moderator or being off-topic, I'd like to chime in with my $.02... Speaking as someone who has tried to run similar sites, let me say that the jobs that Brain_R, Kerhopf, Anubis, Van (he still has a site), Jebdel, and a whole host of other webmasters with Didclip, Didvid, and Didfic are amazing. The dedication, time, quality, and patience these guys (and gals?) have is something to be in awe over.

Have I noticed a slow down? No. As far as I can tell, they're all doing great!
TuxedoJarod
tuxedojarod@aol.com
http://snow.prohosting.com/tjarod/
Monday September 13 13:53:22 2004
Re: Fuzzweb
Graham wrote:

> I think we should be grateful to fuzz rather than
> complaining... Web-space is becoming expensive.. not to
> mention the time and energy spent in preparing the
> web-page, clips and images..

Actually, as Brian pointed out, web space is getting cheaper, not more expensive. It's just the free sites that have dried up, pretty much because the webhosting companies no longer believe they can make money by giving away bandwidth.

Pat Powers
Monday September 13 13:58:01 2004
Trauma
Obviously I can't use the search feature so.......anyone seen this flick?

Is Mena's handgag the extent of it?
http://images.movie-gazette.com//displayimage.php?pos=-4737
Monday September 13 14:15:28 2004
Blind
I just watched this movie last night on DVD. Near the end of the movie, a good-looking young woman is kidnapped by a serial killer, and bound and gagged in his basement. Her hands are tied over her head to a pole, and she is cleave-gagged with a pale yellow cloth. It is a fairly lengthy scene, with some decent close-ups.
I will compose a Database Entry for this movie, provided that one doesn't already exist.
Hadji
Monday September 13 14:21:43 2004
Re: Our regular sites
Frank J wrote:

> All the pics at Frank's Atic, Fuzzweb, Greyman and
> Biff Barksdale (another class act) are free.
>

Molto grazie for the props, Frank.

For me, updating is more a matter of inspiration than effort. I try to toss something up every month or so ... but to be honest I'm diving into a shallow pool.

I won't post sets of scenes with overt violence or a vicious atmosphere ... which rules out most new scenes from TV and film these days (SVU, CSI, slasher/horror flicks, etc.). I have a groaning archive of sequences ... but as you can see from that DOOL set with Deidre Hall, the gens really diminish picture quality, so I'd prefer to deal with material I grab off recent airings, or clean copies sent to me by my Wisconsin connection.

That's a relatively lean plate ... so when unexpected scenes like last night's UNFABULOUS pop, I'm a happy webmaster. That'll likely be the next set posted ... and soon, given that it's almost that time of the month.

Sixty frames ... maybe four-six caps? I won't have to decide which of the older sets to retire to make room ... which is almost always a bastard choice to make.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Monday September 13 16:23:23 2004
DOOL....dud, again!!
Well, after seeing Hope get the handgag early on today's episode, I was all excited, thinking "Ooh, she's gonna get tied up again..." WRONG! Turns out Patrick had just come up behind her and handgagged her because, he said, he heard something out in the bush and didn't want Hope screaming....now, does this mean she's out of danger?? Let's hope not....but I wouldn't count on anything...

Bob Nielsen
knightryderrwn@msn.com
Monday September 13 16:58:57 2004
Re: Our regular sites
Biff wrote:

> For me, updating is more a matter of inspiration than
> effort.

For me, it's more a matter of material than effort. It requires little effort to copy and paste a scene description I'm given into my list, and upload it. It only requires effort to actually type up a description of something I've seen myself, but that's often not a problem. I mostly just add whatever I'm given, since I don't really watch TV.

I only update my site when I get ahold of new material, regardless of what it is. In some cases it has included material that is unavailable in the Western world - though this has proven useful to people who live in the East (I know someone from Malaysia who reads my list) or who like to import. In other cases it has included totally silly shows that I would never even want to glance at. But just because I sometimes have less than zero interest in the material I'm given, doesn't mean I'll reject it - after all, I don't want my site to be uninclusive. I do reject "arrested criminal" and "handgag"-only scenes, as I don't consider them true "capture" scenes.

As for the scans/copies of comic strips, they come whenever I happen to stumble across or are alerted to them.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
http://www2.superstories.net/cartooncapture
Monday September 13 17:35:21 2004
WW gagged (?)
Is it me or is our heroine actually sporting a black gag that was missed by the editors? Could it be that they intially wrote in a gag, filmed it then changed their mind but missed this one shot
see the pic at this link
http://members.easyspace.com/tuxjarod/mysnaps/ww/ep2/wwep2_07.JPG
http://members.easyspace.com/tuxjarod/mysnaps/ww/ep2/wwep2_07.JPG
carl
carl424@yahoo.com
Monday September 13 18:12:28 2004
Re: WW gagged (?)
carl wrote:

> Is it me or is our heroine actually sporting a black gag
> that was missed by the editors? Could it be that they
> intially wrote in a gag, filmed it then changed their
> mind but missed this one shot
> see the pic at this link
> http://members.easyspace.com/tuxjarod/mysnaps/ww/ep2/wwep2_07.JPG

No joy. I remember the episode. She's not gagged. (Incidently, here's a trivia tidbit: The big guest star was Roy Rogers. When WW rides a horse, you'll notice she changes into another of her magical costumes, one not *nearly* as revealing. This was at Roy's "request". Damn, the sight of Lynda bouncing along in her usual costume certainly would have made *me* sing "Happy Trails". Roy Rogers---King of the Cowboys---Certified Prig.))

Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Monday September 13 19:20:38 2004
Aeon Flux
I see that Charlize Theron is working on a new movie "Aeon Flux" based on the old MTV cartoon. I remember it was a pretty violent cartoon but did it have any DiD scenes? It seemed like most of the characters outfits were somewhat bondage inspired.
Viking
Monday September 13 20:19:00 2004
Re: WW gagged (?)
>
> No joy. I remember the episode. She's not gagged.
> (Incidently, here's a trivia tidbit: The big guest star
> was Roy Rogers. When WW rides a horse, you'll notice she
> changes into another of her magical costumes, one not
> *nearly* as revealing. This was at Roy's
> "request". Damn, the sight of Lynda bouncing
> along in her usual costume certainly would have made *me*
> sing "Happy Trails". Roy Rogers---King of the Cowboys---Certified Prig.))
I beg to differ. This is not the Roy episode with ABC, it is the Murderous Missle CBS episode. I recall it well because of the devestating disappointment. When first confronted WW asks what the bad guys were going to do with her. "Just keep you out of the way for a while." Then came the gas. When she woke, I would have bet that would have been stripped of her belt, tied to a pole in the barn chewing on a bandana gag. Instead we get a good spread eagle shot, but with her belt in place she was bound for no more than 5 seconds. She was not gagged in the close up, but this still seems to show a black gag.
Monday September 13 20:20:21 2004
North Shore
On tonight's episode, enititled "Vice", Brooke Burns gets a quick "friendly fire" handgag from her boyfriend. Only lasts 2 or 3 seconds, but worth catching for handgag afficianados.

As for the Aeon Flux flick, I think our chances of seeing Charlize in bondage are non-existant. On the cartoon series, it was always Aeon dishing out the bondage, and always *guys* getting B&G (in the premiere episode alone we got hit with two putzes in seperate scenes, both tied up by Aeon. Eeew.). Still might be a cool flick, since Peter Chung, who created it, is behind the helm.
Clockensteel
Monday September 13 20:22:11 2004
Re: North Shore
Oh yeah, and non-East Coasters should still be able to catch tonight's North Shore episode. The scene hits at roughly the 15' mark.
Clockensteel
Monday September 13 20:36:04 2004
Fuzzweb
This post was moved to The Bulletin Board.

Poster: Anonymus
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Monday September 13 20:38:09 2004
Re: WW gagged (?)
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> She was not gagged in the close up, but this still seems > to show a black gag.

Actually, it just looks like part of the shadow from one of the cell bars.
LV
Monday September 13 20:43:51 2004
Re: WW gagged (?)
LV wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > She was not gagged in the close up, but this still
> seems > to show a black gag.
>
> Actually, it just looks like part of the shadow from one
> of the cell bars.

It could be the shadow, but if you follow the shadow of the bars none of them cross her mouth. Also, the "gag" appears darker than the shadows. I think it is a balck over the mouth gag. The $99.00 question is why did they decide to cut it? And where is the rest of the tape?

Monday September 13 20:44:39 2004
Re: Our regular sites
Frank J wrote:

> All the pics at Frank's Atic, Fuzzweb, Greyman and
> Biff Barksdale (another class act) are free.
> You're welcome.

Big thanks to all of youse.
Probably one of the biggest factors in disappearing DiD-sites (aside from the freehosting) is burnout.
I had a non bondage-related site for about a year. When my host (NBCI) dropped free sites, I was almost relieved. That some of you have had your sites up for years is amazing.

I was selling collectibles. The worst complainers came, of course, from people demanding updates. Naturally, none of these demanders was ever a customer.
LV
Monday September 13 20:48:28 2004
Clarification
As I've said, I'm allowing more discussion under the new rules (as should be obvious). However, it is not now and never will be on-topic to complain about other sites.

Such problems should be directed towards the site owner using whatever contact information is provided. If he or she is interested, that's the best way. There's no reason to do it here, except for some misguided attempt to publicly embarrass the owner into action.

I moved the one from today, because it sort of grew out of the current discussion. Any future complaints, insults, requests for updates, etc. will be deleted immediately.

I hope the policy AND the reasons for it are clear to all.

The Moderator
Monday September 13 21:02:24 2004
Re: WW gagged (?)
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I
> think it is a balck over the mouth gag. The $99.00
> question is why did they decide to cut it? And where is
> the rest of the tape?
>

I think the most likely explanation is that it's a manipulation. It takes no great skill to manufacture a straight black overgag.
Biff
Monday September 13 21:17:30 2004
Re: WW gagged (?)
Biff wrote:

> >
>
> I think the most likely explanation is that it's a
> manipulation. It takes no great skill to manufacture a
> straight black overgag.

It is not a fake. If one were to fake a gag, why not do it with a close up? Plus, you can find the pic on the web in many WW sites. I found it on on of our friend's site. Ask the owner http://snow.prohosting.com/tjarod/ if it is a fake



Monday September 13 21:53:24 2004
Re: "GL"
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I only caught the final 15 minutes of "Guiding
> Light" on Monday (it plays early here), and Michele
> was not in any danger when shown 45 minutes in, but I
> didn't see the handgag to start. Obviously a friend did
> it.

Michelle was handgagged for about 5 seconds around 5 minutes into the episode. Then one of Danny's goons came outside and attacked the man who was after Michelle. And that was the end of that...
Monday September 13 22:17:09 2004
DOOL tuesday
Day ahead spoiler said little of interest to us for Hope on Tuesday. But Billie and a putz will be hit over the head and knocked out. When putz comes to, Billie will not be there. Previews for Wed did not show Billie. Not sure who is playing the part, but it is NOT the previous Billie Krista Allen.
hopeful
Monday September 13 22:20:36 2004
Argento bondage
We should all be well aware of Dario Argento's obsession with violence and, at times, bondage. Even made sure to get his daughter into it. (Points off for the "eww" factor, but points back on 'cause it's Asia!)
Anyways, got a hold of a two-disc set of Argento's "Doorways into Darkness" including four episodes of some Italian TV show from either the late '70's or early '80's. The first episode on the first disc has a beautiful dark haired woman who spends the latter half of the episode tied hand and foot and OTM gagged with a white cloth. She struggles, hops about, tries to escape. The whole lot.
Not sure if anyone has seen this or reported on this before, but it's worth checking out. IT's a Region 0 DVD, but all you gotta do is plunk down for a multi-region player and you can watch it.
Laters
Justin
Monday September 13 23:04:06 2004
Re: WW gagged (?)
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>
> It is not a fake. If one were to fake a gag, why not do
> it with a close up?
>

Well, if you were trying to create this sort of hubbub, the vaguer the better, right? Someone may be having us on.

And the only shots of Ms. Carter spreadeagled were from long range ... that's all he had to work with.

> Plus, you can find the pic on the
> web in many WW sites. I found it on on of our friend's
> site. Ask the owner http://snow.prohosting.com/tjarod/
> if it is a fake
>

Jarod wouldn't know one way or the other ... nor would anyone else hosting that image. Unless it's a shadow, as a previous poster suggested, it wasn't capped by anyone, since she isn't gagged in the actual ep.

I'd be interested to know where he and others obtained the image.

Also, since every other scene in the series involved a black cleavegag, why would an overgag be used?

In any event, I said a fake is the most *likely* explanation ... not the definitive one. I'm deeply skeptical, but heaven and earth, Horatio.
Biff
Monday September 13 23:16:53 2004
Re: Our regular sites
Hey, TJ, thanks for the kind words. Long time, man-- good to see you.

I'm another one that started out with a free site, and am currently paying $100 a year (for that, though, I get more bandwidth than I ever use), as well as keeping a free "mirror" at geocities (which is stripped of all graphics, or it'd go through a month's bandwidth in a day). It's not a lot to spend on a hobby, really, when you think about it, and it's less likely (though not impossible, I suppose) that I'm going to get nailed with some TOS bs, since I'm actually a paying customer.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Monday September 13 23:27:44 2004
Re: North Shore
Clockensteel wrote:

> Oh yeah, and non-East Coasters should still be able to
> catch tonight's North Shore episode. The scene hits at
> roughly the 15' mark.
>

I don't know Brooke Burns from Eve. I tuned in about 12' in, I guess ... in the middle of a bedroom scene. Is this when it occurred ... there was nothing for ten minutes or so after.
Biff
Monday September 13 23:40:02 2004
Re: DOOL tuesday
hopeful wrote:

>
> sure who is playing the part, but it is NOT the previous
> Billie Krista Allen.
Not Krista, but from my standpoint even better. Can't think of her name right now, Julie Pinson I think. She used to play Eve on Port Charles and was number one on my gaggable mouth list. She got plenty of tieups but no gag, at least not the over the mouth gags that I like. Let's hope for better luck on DOOL.
hallbird

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