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Monday August 09 00:41:43 2004
Re: 'The Hollywood Mom's Mystery'?
chubby wrote:

> I only
> saw one commercial for it and it did not show any DiD-related shots.

Any scenes turn up?
Monday August 09 00:44:19 2004
Wild Card
There was a (possible) alert posted for Sunday's (Aug 8) ep - did anything turn up?
Monday August 09 02:22:17 2004
Re: Wild Card
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> There was a (possible) alert posted for Sunday's (Aug 8)
> ep - did anything turn up?

Unless I missed something on the fast forward scanning, I'd have to say no. Joely Fischer does end up in a pile of scarves after a scuffle with a bad guy at the start of the episode, but she was not bound or gagged in any way. And, despite the episode title being "Bound and Gagged, Your Wife's been Snagged" the only B/G person I saw was a ~guy~ at the very end who Fischer discovered after pulling up some floorboards. Don't ask me what that plot twist was about. I was only fast-forwarding it.
KEVIN
Monday August 09 05:41:00 2004
Re: Wild Card
>>>>>>There was a (possible) alert posted for Sunday's (Aug 8)
ep - did anything turn up?<<<<<


Complete waste of time.
Vince Grey
vincegrey@greyweb.org
Monday August 09 05:51:08 2004
Re: Wild Card
Vince Grey wrote:


>
> Complete waste of time.
Thanks for the anti-alert. I fogort to put a tape in the VCR and this will save me taping a repeat

Boyo
Monday August 09 08:56:52 2004
Britney
Seen but not heard.
http://content.clearchannel.com/Photos/musicians/britney_spears/spears_gagged_BillWinter4.jpg
http://www.wpmi.com/news/commentary/story.aspx?content_id=73D8FE49-3B65-40D5-83FA-E6514508954B
Monday August 09 09:56:38 2004
Update
Major John's is updated courtesy of Bindher - enjoy!
Major John
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
http://www.bindher.com
Monday August 09 10:01:22 2004
Re: Britney
> Seen but not heard.

Wish Shakira wasn't heard also

http://www.gethepicture.net/ebayphotos/tn_Shakira06HQ-Creafoudre.jpg
Monday August 09 11:22:42 2004
Re: Wild Card
KEVIN wrote:
> Unless I missed something on the fast forward scanning,
> I'd have to say no. Joely Fischer does end up in a pile
> of scarves after a scuffle with a bad guy at the start of
> the episode, but she was not bound or gagged in any way.
> And, despite the episode title being "Bound and
> Gagged, Your Wife's been Snagged" the only B/G
> person I saw was a ~guy~ at the very end who Fischer
> discovered after pulling up some floorboards. Don't ask
> me what that plot twist was about. I was only fast-forwarding it.

Same here. I'm not sure, but I think the episode descriptions/scheduling may have gotten messed up. Here's the description of "Bound and Gagged":

"While attending a charity event, Zoe attempts to thwart a woman's kidnapping. Things get sticky when Zoe discovers that the woman is Dan's ex-girlfriend. Zoe and Dan must now pay a ransom or rescue this damsel in distress before it's too late. On the home front, Zoe sweats about having the birds-and-bees talk with her nephew Cliff."

Did anyone watch the preview for next week's episode? I thought it had something to do with an ex-girlfriend.



MadFish
Monday August 09 11:25:06 2004
Bound legs
Ran across this photo on a site selling women's scarves.
http://www.coach.com/assets/images/category/leftart/08.04_womshoes.jpg
Monday August 09 12:12:26 2004
NEW VANITY FAIR MAG
The one with Reese Witherspoon on the cover-there's an Hermes ad that has two gorgeous models with straps in between their teeth that looks very convincing and intriguing. pick it up if you can.
eddie
Monday August 09 12:27:48 2004
Re: Wild Card
MadFish wrote:


> Same here. I'm not sure, but I think the episode
> descriptions/scheduling may have gotten messed up. Here's
> the description of "Bound and Gagged":
>
> "While attending a charity event, Zoe attempts to
> thwart a woman's kidnapping. Things get sticky when Zoe
> discovers that the woman is Dan's ex-girlfriend. Zoe and
> Dan must now pay a ransom or rescue this damsel in
> distress before it's too late. On the home front, Zoe
> sweats about having the birds-and-bees talk with her
> nephew Cliff."
>
> Did anyone watch the preview for next week's episode? I
> thought it had something to do with an ex-girlfriend.

Yes, and it appears you're right. Preview showed a blonde and the voiceover said something to the effect of an ex. No bondage shots at all in the preview. It also made it seem like the guest female was a suspect in something and Zoe was trying to out her. Either way, worth a record. I still say this show will pay off with a full scene for Fischer by season's end. Every episode has potential, whereas last year none had potential.
Monday August 09 15:34:12 2004
Torrie Wilson/WCW
Last night a friend and I were watching some old wrestling videos. One was from WCW and had Torrie Wilson locked in a cage during a match because she had been kidnapped by The Revolution or somebody. I asked if there was a scene and he thought he remembered a handgag at some point. Anyone know if this is true or if a video of it exists anywhere?
Gags Galore
Monday August 09 16:44:40 2004
Re: Britney
> Wish Shakira wasn't heard also
>

No problem

http://mitglied.lycos.de/bfs2004/bs-shakira-index.htm
Monday August 09 16:46:23 2004
Re: Wild Card
> the episode, but she was not bound or gagged in any
> way.
> Gagged, Your Wife's been Snagged" the only B/G
> person I saw was a ~guy~
> Did anyone watch the preview for next week's episode? I
> thought it had something to do with an ex-girlfriend.

Oh god, please forgive me for saying this, but the chick on this show is ugly (ok, sorry, not my type) and the show itself is unwatchable.

If a scene ever comes hope I pray it isn't her. I am so sorry if I offended anyone but this is the discussion page and I am discussing.


Monday August 09 16:55:26 2004
Re: Torrie Wilson/WCW
> there was a scene and he thought he remembered a handgag
> at some point. Anyone know if this is true or if a video
> of it exists anywhere?

Think she was kidnapped and handgagged by Asya, a bodybuilding blonde Amazon
Monday August 09 17:01:01 2004
Re: Britney
Qualifies as a Japanese-style OTM gag? Photo is even labelled 'spears_gagged'

http://content.clearchannel.com/Photos/musicians/britney_spears/spears_gagged_BillWinter4.jpg
Monday August 09 17:09:02 2004
New Polish DiD scene
On the new Yahoo group DiD po Polsku 3, beautiful blonde Malgorzata Socha is kidnapped, bound, gagged with thin silver duct tape burnished onto her face like a second skin, and cocooned up to the neck in translucent polythene wrap.

Carried in the trunk of a car, then left buried up to her neck in soil! After her rescue, an arrested blonde gang member is seen cuffed hands behind.

A wonderful scene. Caps only so far.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/did_po_polsku3

Photos section.

Mad Dan
Monday August 09 17:24:07 2004
Re: Britney
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Qualifies as a Japanese-style OTM gag? Photo is even
> labelled 'spears_gagged'

Looks more like an astonishingly crude fake to me! Probably intended to be no more than symbolic.



Mad Dan
Monday August 09 17:29:54 2004
Fay Wray... 1907-2004
Fay wray has passed on.

Whether as the involuntary bride of Kong or as a helpless captive being offered "eternal beauty" by one of Lionel Atwill's villain's, Ms. Wray *defined* the role of the cinematic Damsel-in-Distress (IMHO). Pearl White may be the creator, but Fay's beauty, sex appeal and innocent, vulnerable face moved the DiD to the next level.

Raise your glass in tribute, & remember...

'TWAS BEAUTY THAT KILLED THE BEAST.
http://cinescape.com/multimedia/Master_Site/People/Master_SitePeople291985.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Monday August 09 17:41:36 2004
Re: Britney
Mad Dan wrote:
>
> Looks more like an astonishingly crude fake to me!
> Probably intended to be no more than symbolic.

I note that Britney wore a black blindfold during performances of "Toxic". Caps of that routine show the cloth clearly tied around her head and trapping hair as you'd expect, but this one looks curiously flat, with hair that should be under it sprouting out from the middle of it.

Thing is, why would anybody fake it like that, and caption it as a gag when all the vids show a blindfold?
I'm puzzled....




Mad Dan
Monday August 09 18:01:18 2004
Re: Britney
S'not a fake. She did this by mistake, trying
to take the blindfold off during a concert. Or
so I read elsewhere.
Monday August 09 18:10:12 2004
Re: Britney
Having captured and enhanced the image, I think I can see what may have happened. The upper half of the cloth is consistent with the blindfold seen in videos, with hair emerging in the right places from under it.

However, somebody appears to have graphically extended the cloth downwards to the chin, where it doesn't trap and compress hair as it should.

Any other ideas about this image? Does it matter? Rhetorical question. Who cares? :-)

Mad Dan
Monday August 09 18:28:29 2004
Re: Britney
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> S'not a fake. She did this by mistake, trying
> to take the blindfold off during a concert. Or
> so I read elsewhere.

I thought that might be it, but the cloth would have to be shaped like a very broad 'T', cut away to half depth at the ends where it's knotted. Perhaps they actually did that to make it easier to knot, and the bottom half, usually folded up (you can clearly see the crease in most shots), fell down as she tried to remove it. That's the only way those strands of hair could appear to sprout from the middle of the band!

Then, however, you'd still expect to see the crease, and the whole thing still looks curiously flat. Hmmm.

Methinks I feel a deletion coming on. Sorry, Mr Mod.
Mad Dan
Monday August 09 18:40:46 2004
More DiD Necrology
Van wrote:

> Fay wray has passed on.

Also, Virginia Grey, who had the distinction of being the only damsel to receive a full treatment in a Marx brothers film (The Big Store).
Read her obit over the weekend.
LV
Monday August 09 19:15:56 2004
In memoriam...
...I think we should redouble our efforts to verify that Fay Wray's three 1933 scenes-"The Vampire Bat," "The Mystery of the Wax Museum," and her most famous one (the link below is to what's apparently a cap of it from TV; I sincerely hope it's a good one)-were her only ones. Seems hard to believe, but then again, Katharine Hepburn-KATHARINE HEPBURN!-only got it once.

And was Virgina Grey the only actress ever tied up in a Marx Brothers movie-to wit, "The Big Store?"

Getting back to Wray for a moment, her Associated Press obit mentioned that the director of the upcoming "King Kong" remake was hoping she'd make a cameo appearance in it. Too bad she won't. By the way, in case it hasn't been announced here, Naomi Watts will play Wray's role.

Sic transit gloria mundi...
An Old Friend
http://www.shillpages.com/faywray/wrayfp35.jpg
Monday August 09 19:36:19 2004
Kath'
Katherine Hepburn was B & G'ed in a movie ? Well, I never...

Which one ?
C
Monday August 09 19:48:33 2004
Re: Kath'
C wrote:

> Katherine Hepburn was B & G'ed in a movie ? > Which one ?

The Iron Petticoat.

See Db.

Phimophilus
Monday August 09 19:55:52 2004
That should read...
Thanks, Phimophilus.
C
Monday August 09 20:01:44 2004
Re: Britney
I just found an adjacent frame on Boundsingers. It's much clearer, and a dancer seems to be trying to re-tie the b/f.

As I thought might be the case, the bottom half has dropped down, and it may be cut away at the ends. The whole thing is very loose. There's more shading visible; awkward retouching for publication may have made it look flat.
Mad Dan
Monday August 09 20:04:00 2004
Re: In memoriam...
An Old Friend wrote:

> ...I think we should redouble our efforts to verify that
> Fay Wray's three 1933 scenes-"The Vampire Bat,"
> "The Mystery of the Wax Museum," and her most
> famous one (the link below is to what's apparently a cap
> of it from TV; I sincerely hope it's a good one)-were her
> only ones. Seems hard to believe, but then again,
> Katharine Hepburn-KATHARINE HEPBURN!-only got it once.

It probably cannot ever be verified. I read an article a few years ago about how tens of thousands of old films were lost forever. Fay Wray made about 100 of them, and it's unlikely they all still exist.
Malasfan
Monday August 09 20:04:01 2004
Re: Britney
Mad Dan wrote:

> Methinks I feel a deletion coming on. Sorry, Mr Mod.

No, this is ok as long as we don't wander too far off into
the subjects of fakes. Trying to determine the reality
of caps is fine.

The Moderator
Monday August 09 20:58:59 2004
Re: Wild Card
> Oh god, please forgive me for saying this, but the chick
> on this show is ugly (ok, sorry, not my type) and the
> show itself is unwatchable.
>
> If a scene ever comes hope I pray it isn't her. I am so
> sorry if I offended anyone but this is the discussion page and I am discussing.

No offense taken. Joely Fisher's doesn't do it for you. I'm sure all of us have seen DiD scenes with damsels who didn't appeal to us but did to many others. We just respectfully kept those opinions to ourselves.



Monday August 09 21:07:56 2004
NCIS alert for tomorrow???
Can someone confirm that there is a scene in tomorrow's episode? It was not listed in the database but two other ones were.
Hank
Monday August 09 21:11:59 2004
Re: In memoriam...
An Old Friend wrote:

> {Snip}
>
> Getting back to Wray for a moment, her Associated Press
> obit mentioned that the director of the upcoming
> "King Kong" remake was hoping she'd make a
> cameo appearance in it. Too bad she won't. By the way,
> in case it hasn't been announced here, Naomi Watts will
> play Wray's role.

Several months ago I read a script on the web that purported to be an early draft of Jackson's KK (before he got the green light for the remake & hired his LOTR buddies for a rewrite.) Anyhoo, at the very end, when Kong is dead on the pavement riddled with machine gun bullets, instead of Carl Denning, Jackson had "Old Lady" deliver the line: "'Twas beauty that killed the beast." Although it wasn't specified, I assumed that honor was reserved for Ms. Wray.

By the way, the Kong-meets-his-blind-date scene was VERY cool. Instead of the classic sacrifical steps, Ann (Naomi) would be secured to a platform at the top of the wall & she would be lowered on a HUGE mechanical stone arm into Kong's grasp. :-) Details were sparse, but given Peter Jackson's the guy visualizing all this, HOWEVER the scene winds up, I'm bettingit'll be equally cool. :-) (I didn't save the URL of the old script.)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Monday August 09 21:29:21 2004
Re: In memoriam...
An Old Friend wrote:

> ...I think we should redouble our efforts to verify that
> Fay Wray's three 1933 scenes-"The Vampire Bat,"
> "The Mystery of the Wax Museum," and her most
> famous one (the link below is to what's apparently a cap
> of it from TV; I sincerely hope it's a good one)-were her
> only ones.

Ms. Wray's recent passing evoked my curiosity about her, particularly the bondage scenes in which she had appeared. I consulted the voluminous Scene Database, and noted one glaring omission.
I read in her obituary that she appeared in a movie entitled "Dr. X", in which she played a damsel in distress. I recall watching the last few minutes of this movie many, many years ago, and she was definitely bound and gagged during these last few minutes. She was the victim of a mad scientist; she was tied up in either a blanket or a sleeping bag, and was gagged with a cloth tied over her mouth. The villain offered to remover her gag if she promised not to scream, and she nodded her head in assent. Of course, when he removed her gag, she let out a piercing scream.
Does anyone recall anything more about this movie?
Hadji
Monday August 09 21:49:47 2004
Re: In memoriam...
Hadji wrote:

> Does anyone recall anything more about this movie?
>

You may be thinking of THE RETURN OF DOCTOR X, with Rosemary Lane ... and Humphrey Bogart as The Bad Doctor.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Monday August 09 21:58:22 2004
Site Update
Updated Saturday, actually... just kinda slow gettin' the word out.

Images and commentary added for Kim Cattrall and Suzee Pai in "Big Trouble in Little China"; Samantha Eggar in "The Collector", and Pamela Springsteen, Tracy Griffith, and Kim Wall in "Sleepaway Camp III: Teenage Wasteland".
CollectorX
CollectorX@ignmail.com
http://gagsnroses.tripod.com
Monday August 09 22:05:31 2004
Hollywood Mom's Murder Mystery
Big nothinburger.
Monday August 09 23:14:19 2004
Re: Fay Wray and "Doctor X"
Biff wrote:


> (Hadji)may be thinking of THE RETURN OF DOCTOR X, with
> Rosemary Lane ... and Humphrey Bogart as The Bad Doctor.

Indeed he is. The original "Doctor X," from 1932, starred Wray and Lionel Atwill, who, of course, tried to encase our fair damsel in wax in "The Mystery of the Wax Museum" the following year-and correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he also Wray's tormentor in "The Vampire Bat" as well? Hmmm...I wonder if he didn't sneak once or twice onto the set of Guess Which Movie in an ape suit?

Anyway, "Doctor X," despite the setup, has no female bondage in it. It's the "Return" sequel from seven years later, with Bogie and Rosemary Lane as the damsel, that has the scene Hadji rememebers, as the database will readily confirm.

An Old Friend
Monday August 09 23:35:37 2004
Re: In memoriam...
Hadji wrote:

> the voluminous Scene Database, and
> noted one glaring omission.
> a movie entitled "Dr. X"

One favour here Hadji.
In future when you come across alternative titles that affect the search, let me know on the Database Corrections Page.

In this case, noticed the "Return of Dr. X, The" on the IMDB page (Homepage link) and added it.
Try your search again and see if any problems?
Thanx
Jay L
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031851/

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