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Saturday August 28 00:07:50 2004
Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
While I'm at it, I might as well bring up a subject I'd been thinking about recently.

A conversation with an online buddy of mine revealed that he is a "hands behind back" snob of sorts. Even though hands in front could be tied to the body and still be helpless, or arms could be tied to sides and be helpless, I pointed that out to him and he mentioned that his "hands behind back" interest is probably more aesthetic than anything else.

And I have seen artwork by someone who is clearly a "barefoot snob". Every single picture of his has the damsels' shoes (and usually socks) conveniently off for no logical reason. It's gotten to the point where I find his art repetetive and don't look at it much, even though I happen to have a foot fetish myself. (to be honest, arbitrary barefootedness mixed with DiD is a turn-off of mine, since it makes no sense and somehow breaks down my "suspension of disbelief")

Anyway, I personally am not a "snob" of any particuar thing. I may enjoy "hands behind back" and gag scenes, but I lose interest if I see too many and not enough variety of other kinds of DiD.

So, are any of you "snobs" of other forms? Or have an extremely strong preference?
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Saturday August 28 00:12:28 2004
Re: newbie
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Yeah..Brian might be advised to update the links -


Probably a good time to do that. I'll check the links
and purge the broken ones. If anyone has a site they'd
like to add, follow the instructions on the Friends
page and I'll see about it.

The Engineer
Saturday August 28 01:02:48 2004
Danielle Fishel cuffed
...in movie, "National Lampoon's Dorm Daze". See the last row of pics at this link. Apologies if this movie was already discussed..

http://www.freehomepages.com/dfishel4/dormdazefeature.html
Topanga's
Saturday August 28 01:34:53 2004
Re: Infierno?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Is anything happening on that Spanish soap "Infierno
> de Paraiso" that was mentioned as having
> possibilities last week? It somes on here at 1am & I
> keep forgetting to tape it!!!

Afraid I jumped the gun a bit on this one as nothings happened this week and doesn't look like anythings going to happen tonight. The scene has to be in the next week or so as the villainess is impersonating a nun as described in the database description.
hallbird
Saturday August 28 01:50:43 2004
Re: The Incredible, 2-Headed Transplant on DVD.
Robert Knaus wrote:

> ... this all-time classic bondage scene (with Pat
> Priest wriggling and mmmphing while B&G'd on a bed in
> her nightgown), the film was just released on DVD
> ("doubled" with ... THE THING WITH TWO HEADS) in a
> surprisingly good-looking, letterboxed transfer...
> I think > it's a Best Buy exclusive (they have it with a > score of other "Midnite Movie" double-feature discs).

I'm glad somebody brought these releases up. They ARE BB exclusives (though I hear you can order them online from CD Universe in addition to Best Buys' site) and at least one other double feature disc should be of interest to people here: GHOST OF DRAGSTRIP HOLLOW/GHOST IN THE INVISIBLE BIKINI.

Not only does this mark the first ever legit video release of GitB, but possibly the first time it's been presented in widescreen outside a movie house. Those close shots of Deb Walley tied to the buzzsaw conveyor are now showing a lot more hand struggling, not to mention gam :p.

I (or somebody else if the spirit moves them) need to check TRANSPLANT to see what is gained/lost in the widescreen version. The DVD presents it in 1.85:1, which in many cases means that they shot it full screen and black out part of the top/bottom of the frame as seen on TV.

Raffish, if you see this please:

1.) get these DVDs
2.) cap 'em
3.) post 'em
4.) brace for impact as tongues from all over hit the floor upon seeing your work. :)
http://www.badmovieplanet.com/3btheater/g/g-images/ghostinvisiblebikini/bikini7.jpg
iD
Saturday August 28 02:18:33 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Jazz411 wrote:

> , > So, are any of you "snobs" of other forms? Or have an extremely strong preference?

okay, if you are taking a survey - yes...I am a gag snob. The one thing any mainstream scene needs, from my point of view, is a tight gag. I don't care if it is tape, cleave, over the mouth or stuff. If it looks like it stifles talk and breathing through the mouth, it is a winner in my book. I am a "face" freak, when it comes to bondage. I recognize the limbs are bound - but it is the actresses facial expressions that relay the "bondage" and "helplessness" to my antenae.

doug
doug5759@yahoo.com
Saturday August 28 02:24:05 2004
Re: newbie
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> There's Major Johns which I've heard has good stuff, but
> a paysite

You've heard incorrect.
The Mainstream DiDclips posted on the Major's site are free.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday August 28 05:22:24 2004
Re: newbie
Rich wrote:

> gary wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a short list of internet sites that
> would be good to visit for 'our interest'.

And of course there is always FUZZWEB....
http://fuzzweb.net
FUZZ
fzfamily@aol.com
http://fuzzweb.net
Saturday August 28 06:37:42 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?

I'm with you, Doug; secure gags, especially if they distort the face enough to show they are working, do it for me.

Not keen on cleaves unless they are taped over, bringing the lips together outside the cloth.
Mad Dan
Saturday August 28 06:40:47 2004
Re: Interesting pic from a "how to draw" book
Poor gal can't breathe, and her feet don't appear to be tied. Why isn't she flailing away back-kicking the guy in the shins? That's a self-preserving reflex!
Mad Dan
Saturday August 28 06:48:18 2004
Re: The Incredible, 2-Headed Transplant on DVD.
iD wrote:

> I'm glad somebody brought these releases up. They ARE BB
> exclusives (though I hear you can order them online from
> CD Universe in addition to Best Buys' site) and at least
> one other double feature disc should be of interest to
> people here: GHOST OF DRAGSTRIP HOLLOW/GHOST IN THE
> INVISIBLE BIKINI.

Awesome news! The GitIB scene with Deborah Walley is, in my book, one of the greatest mainstream scenes of all time. This is a film that is not aired often (not quite a holy grail since I'm sure most of us have it in our collections) but it'll be great to have it on DVD.
Mark O
Saturday August 28 06:51:42 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Michelle Grellier and Josée Steiner and "Lagardère"

http://www.abductor.com/nerilka/Scrapbook/abd_trans8a.jpg
Lisa
Saturday August 28 07:07:35 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Lisa wrote:

> Michelle Grellier and Josée Steiner and
> "Lagardère"

Oh, wow! Black OTM gags with period outfits...

Where did you find the caps, Lisa? Thanks for those. :-)

Mad Dan
Saturday August 28 07:29:36 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
> Oh, wow! Black OTM gags with period outfits...

Just like "Viva Maria!", but earlier.
Swash my buckler!
Mad Dan
Saturday August 28 07:40:38 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Mad Dan wrote:

> Oh, wow! Black OTM gags with period outfits...
> Where did you find the caps, Lisa? Thanks for those. :-)

My dear friend Filou captured that scene, I suppose (or is it Bash?). Filou published some caps on his site ("Au malheur des dames" - http://dids.adbd.org). The samples I've posted are just thumbnails he used on a page (issue#53, Apr, 2003).
Lisa
Saturday August 28 10:47:21 2004
City of Missing Girls
Shopping around and noticed a DVD of this 1941 movie: "City of Missing Girls". (Not in the Database) Yahoo's plot description looks promising; price is cheap. Has anyone seen this and is there anything of interest to us?
BB
Saturday August 28 11:30:43 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Jazz411 wrote:

> A conversation with an online buddy of mine revealed that
> he is a "hands behind back" snob of sorts. Even
> though hands in front could be tied to the body and still
> be helpless, or arms could be tied to sides and be
> helpless, I pointed that out to him and he mentioned that
> his "hands behind back" interest is probably
> more aesthetic than anything else.

Jazz when you think about isn't bondage all about aesthetics? Count me in with your buddy - I am also a "hands behind the back" snob. And here's a dumb example: the Gilligan's Island episode where they find a crate with movie equipment in the lagoon and decide to make a movie to help them get rescued. The scene in which Mary Ann is tied to the stake by the cannibal (Gilligan) wouldn't be the same for me if she had put her hands in front or left them hanging by her sides. For me the appeal of this scene is watching her almost instinctively put her hands behind her back while Gilligan wrapped the vine around her. No way it would have left such an impression on my then-young brain unless that had happened.

So count me as a HBB snob. And no I don't really care that Gilligan didn't gag her, though it would have been nice.
Mark O
Saturday August 28 12:04:05 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Mad Dan wrote:

> > Oh, wow! Black OTM gags with period outfits...
>
> Just like "Viva Maria!", but earlier.
> Swash my buckler!

Don't you mean "Buckle my swash"?

Anyway, according to the IMDb (long may it wave) "Lagardère" was(is) a 1967 French mini-series... so the chances of seeing it on DVD any time soon are probably slim & none. :-( The premise sounds promising. Maybe we should hope for a remake.
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://imdb.com/title/tt0064053/
Saturday August 28 12:20:27 2004
Re: newbie

Rich wrote:
gary wrote:
Can anyone suggest a short list of internet sites
that
would be good to visit for 'our interest'.
And of course there is always FUZZWEB....
http://fuzzweb.net

Ditto

Saturday August 28 12:23:25 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Mad Dan wrote:
> > Michelle Grellier and Josée Steiner and
> > "Lagardère"
> Oh, wow! Black OTM gags with period outfits...

Record number: 7518

Title: Lagardère (1967) aka Lagardere
Medium: TV Movie
Actress: Michèle Grellier aka Michele Grellier, Josée Steiner

Description: In this French swashbuckler, a beautiful blonde (Grellier) is in her studio. Two men break in and gag her from behind (white cloth over the mouth) then tie her hands. One slings her over his shoulder and takes her to a carriage. There are some scenes over her in carriage as it heads along. She is wearing a black laceup bodice over a white dress.

Later, she's back in the coach, but has now picked up a brunette friend (Steiner). They are wearing similar lavendar gowns and are tied and gagged (black cloth this time). The brunetted works her gag loose, then chews the ropes on her companion's wrists, eventually freeing her. They untie themselves, then leap from the carriage to safety.

Double oh wow!
Check out those heaving bosoms too!

Saturday August 28 12:53:29 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

Double oh wow!
Check out those heaving bosoms too!

Is it just me, or do those period costumes just add to the mix?
Marie (antionette) says hi fellas.


Louis XVI
Saturday August 28 13:20:30 2004
Re: newbie
> > Can anyone suggest a short list of internet sites
> that
> > would be good to visit for 'our interest'.
> > And hello from S Africa gents.
>
Check out the links pages here at brianspage or at anubis site. Both are great and there are different sites listed on each.

http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/
BiG MT
Saturday August 28 13:50:09 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Jazz411 wrote:

>
> So, are any of you "snobs" of other forms? Or have an extremely strong preference?

My extremely strong preferences are:
hands - rope tied behind her back, both for helplessness and for the effect it has on her chest
legs - rope tied, damsel in a skirt or short
gag - thick cloth cleave applied on screen, ideally with mouth packing
blindfold - none
chubby
Saturday August 28 14:11:09 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
chubby wrote:

> My extremely strong preferences are:
> hands - rope tied behind her back, both for helplessness
> and for the effect it has on her chest
> legs - rope tied, damsel in a skirt or short
> gag - thick cloth cleave applied on screen, ideally with
> mouth packing
> blindfold - none

For me, hands behind back with rope; legs and knees tied; in a skirt or dress; OTM gag with packing; and prefer no blindfold (love the expression in the eyes).
Mark O
Saturday August 28 14:13:14 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Mark O wrote:

> For me, hands behind back with rope; legs and knees tied;
> in a skirt or dress; OTM gag with packing; and prefer no
> blindfold (love the expression in the eyes).

And before you all start goofing on me..yes I know that the knees form a part of the leg..I meant ankles!
Mark O
Saturday August 28 15:01:37 2004
Preferences
I like hands taped behind the back and the mouth taped shut myself. Really, so long as the hands are tied behind their backs, though, and they are tape gagged, I'm satisfied.
Todd 3-D
todd3d@yahoo.com
http://anuvids.com/xmain/specials/prodid.html
Saturday August 28 15:18:22 2004
Re: Preferences
Todd 3-D wrote:

> I like hands taped behind the back and the mouth taped
> shut myself. Really, so long as the hands are tied
> behind their backs, though, and they are tape gagged, I'm
> satisfied.
> http://anuvids.com/xmain/specials/prodid.html

The woman must be gagged. Cleave gags are the best but tape gags are also nice if the tape is on tight. OTM's are my least favorite because you can't see her lips. I'm not a snob on everything else. The more bindings on the damsel the better and she can be tied up with anything the binder can get his hands on. And no blindfolds. The blindfold material is better used as mouth packing for her gag.
Dave
Saturday August 28 15:27:57 2004
Re: Preferences
Dave wrote:

> The woman must be gagged. Cleave gags are the best but
> tape gags are also nice if the tape is on tight. OTM's
> are my least favorite because you can't see her lips.

If OTMs are tied tightly enough you can see her lips. Much like tape.
Mark O
Saturday August 28 15:52:34 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Van wrote:
>
> Don't you mean "Buckle my swash"?
>
The expression derives from the late 15th-early 17th centuries, when your action hero type carried a small round shield, a buckler, slung on his belt alongside his sword. As he walked, the sword rattled against the wobbling, or swashing, buckler.

Hence, an adventurous, devil-may-care sort of guy could be identified from afar by his "swash-buckling" walk.
Mad Dan
Saturday August 28 15:57:27 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
Louis XVI wrote:
>
> Is it just me, or do those period costumes just add to
> the mix?

Oh, ouais, bien ssshhhhwOP! (Silently) Oh m...e!

Marie (antionette)

was grievously misquoted....


Dan le Fou
Saturday August 28 16:20:23 2004
Fishel
...
http://www.freehomepages.com/dfishel4/dormdazefeature.html
Saturday August 28 16:43:32 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Jazz411 wrote:

> While I'm at it, I might as well bring up a subject I'd
> been thinking about recently.
>
> A conversation with an online buddy of mine revealed that
> he is a "hands behind back" snob of sorts. Even
> though hands in front could be tied to the body and still
> be helpless, or arms could be tied to sides and be
> helpless, I pointed that out to him and he mentioned that
> his "hands behind back" interest is probably
> more aesthetic than anything else.
>
> And I have seen artwork by someone who is clearly a
> "barefoot snob". Every single picture of his
> has the damsels' shoes (and usually socks) conveniently
> off for no logical reason. It's gotten to the point where
> I find his art repetetive and don't look at it much, even
> though I happen to have a foot fetish myself. (to be
> honest, arbitrary barefootedness mixed with DiD is a
> turn-off of mine, since it makes no sense and somehow
> breaks down my "suspension of disbelief")
>
> Anyway, I personally am not a "snob" of any
> particuar thing. I may enjoy "hands behind
> back" and gag scenes, but I lose interest if I see
> too many and not enough variety of other kinds of DiD.
>
> So, are any of you "snobs" of other forms? Or have an extremely strong preference?


I like to see girls tied up, barefoot. I like to see their ankles tied, but I see where your coming from. To me, when bondage is mixed with barfeet the girls feet look wierd, either due to the cameras color hue?, thay always look to red or pink. Helpless Heroines is the worst, they constantly have barefoot scenes, but the girls look like they have ugly feet. Plus, I HATE toenail polish, but I bet Im in the minority there...
friendly, the happy wonder poster
no@never.noway
Saturday August 28 18:38:27 2004
Re: Passions
zinger wrote:

> The bad guy ties her legs
> together and re-gags her with the bandana - he goes to
> make a phone call. Scene will continue in next episode.

Thanks zinger and all the Canadians who have kept us updated on this, and whoever brought up the possiblity of it in the first place.

I don't know how much bondage is going to be involved, but it sounds like Paloma isn't getting free anytime this week.
"Friday, September 3rd-Alistair rewards his henchman by giving him Paloma."
G-MaN
http://www.geocities.com/anothermoviesite/2004SummerVaction.html
Saturday August 28 19:04:18 2004
Re: Double damsel scenes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Double oh wow!
> Check out those heaving bosoms too!

AFAIR, Frank posted on his Attic a couple of caps of the first scene. Amazingly, he labelled them as German ones. Maybe Michele's outfit matched his own idea of Bavarian fashion...
AOF
Saturday August 28 19:33:27 2004
Re: Lagardere
Mark O wrote:
>
> Umm..oh THAT Watteau dress. How dumb of me.

Sorry... It's the theatre decor dude in me coming out!

Still, it prompts another survey - what do readers think is the most attractive style of dress for a DiD?

Let's try to guess who will say "none." :-))

Mad Dan
Saturday August 28 20:43:19 2004
Re: Lagardere
Mad Dan wrote:

> Still, it prompts another survey - what do readers think
> is the most attractive style of dress for a DiD?
>
> Let's try to guess who will say "none." :-))

Dan, keeping in mind that this page focuses on mainstream bondage I'd say that most of us would NOT vote for "none". My favorite style of dress for a Did is a short skirt or a nice dress. I personally also have a thing for gowns..wedding, prom, bridesmaids. Hey we all have our kinks!!

Mark O
Saturday August 28 20:56:41 2004
Justice League Unlimited
For those of you into cartoon bondage Wonder Woman had a brief scene tonight.She was literally hogtied for a moment.
Mark C
Saturday August 28 20:56:49 2004
Wicker Park
I have seen the previews of this movie, but has anyone seen it and does it have any DID in it?
Saturday August 28 20:58:08 2004
Re: Lagardere
>
> Dan, keeping in mind that this page focuses on mainstream
> bondage I'd say that most of us would NOT vote for
> "none".

Happily, I agree, but just forestalling the inevitable. :-)

My favorite style of dress for a Did is
> a short skirt or a nice dress. I personally also have a
> thing for gowns..wedding, prom, bridesmaids. Hey we all
> have our kinks!!

Yup. Like all of those. Not too fussed myself, either, but I do like long dresses, as they can actually contribute to the damsel's immobility. So archetypically feminine, too.


Mad dan
Saturday August 28 21:26:28 2004
Re: Justice League Unlimited
Mark C wrote:

> For those of you into cartoon bondage Wonder Woman had a
> brief scene tonight.She was literally hogtied for a
> moment.

any mention of a gag of any kind?

Saturday August 28 21:35:16 2004
Re: Lagardere
Mad Dan wrote:

> Still, it prompts another survey - what do readers think
> is the most attractive style of dress for a DiD?

Blouse and skirt bondage. That's probably my favorite. Though I'm also partial to the idea of bondage in sundresses.
Todd 3-D
todd3d@yahoo.com
http://anuvids.com/xmain/specials/prodid.html
Saturday August 28 21:40:55 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Jazz411 wrote:

> While I'm at it, I might as well bring up a subject I'd
> been thinking about recently.
>
> A conversation with an online buddy of mine revealed that
> he is a "hands behind back" snob of sorts.
>
> And I have seen artwork by someone who is clearly a
> "barefoot snob". Every single picture of his
> has the damsels' shoes (and usually socks) conveniently
> off for no logical reason. It's gotten to the point where
> I find his art repetetive and don't look at it much, even
> though I happen to have a foot fetish myself.
>
> Anyway, I personally am not a "snob" of any
> particuar thing. I may enjoy "hands behind
> back" and gag scenes, but I lose interest if I see
> too many and not enough variety of other kinds of DiD.

Was the " barefoot snob " artist you described, Franco Saudelli ? He freely admits to having a foot fetish and will draw/ paint his damsels barefoot at any opportunity.


As for my own preferances, I like hands tied behind the back ( why don't the girls simply pull the gag out and untie the knot with their teeth when their hands are bound in front ? ) and with a realistic cloth cleave gag. Tape gags always look like they're on the verge of falling off in the TV shows and movies I've seen them used in.
Stan
Saturday August 28 21:55:42 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Stan wrote:

> Was the " barefoot snob " artist you described,
> Franco Saudelli ? He freely admits to having a foot
> fetish and will draw/ paint his damsels barefoot at any
> opportunity.

Nope. The "barefoot snob" was named LostOneZero. I've seen Saudelli's art, and in both cases, there is a bit of a foot focus, although Saudelli's focus is more blatant and exaggerated.

Anyway, going back to the topic of mainstream scenes, I've heard of no "arbitrary barefoot" tie-up scenes in them at all. Any barefoot tie-ups have come about as a result of the character already being barefoot for some logical reason such as being at home and removing their shoes (without socks) to get more comfortable, etc.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Saturday August 28 22:08:53 2004
Re barefoot damsels
A kidnapped beach volleyball team scene would be nice :)
Stan
Saturday August 28 22:24:46 2004
Re: Castle of the Walking Dead
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Passed by this cover on the way over.
> http://www.deepestblack.com/dvd/castledead1.jpg

AKA "Torture Chamber Of Dr. Sadism", AKA "Castle of the Walk", AKA "Die Schlangengrube und das Pendel".

Not nearly as good as the cover might lead one to believe. There's an entry in the database.

Saturday August 28 22:29:49 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
Stan wrote:
> Tape gags always look like they're on the verge of
> falling off in the TV shows and movies I've seen them used in.

ALWAYS? Really? Even when, as in Dangerous Curves, Single White Female, Chandler and Co, To My (Polish movie), The Hunter, The Brain Killer Affair, The X Files (Our Town) and others too numerous to mention, they cling to every crevice and resist vigorous face pulling?

There are tape gags and tape gags!
They are unconvincing when either the tape is too stiff to conform properly, the wussy actress wants a piece of card or paper to protect her lips, or much of the tack has been
been taken out for the same purpose. But that isn't always!

Mad Dan
Saturday August 28 22:32:47 2004
A Damsel Passes
Sorry to hear that 80's singer Laura Brannigan passed away from a brain aneurysm earlier this week. She made one full-treatment appearance in the lost 80's action show "Automan."

http://www.laurabranigan.com/Lauras_Passing.htm

Record number: 2743

Title: Automan
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Laura Branigan

Description: Episode: "Murder MTV" (1.9)

Weird 80s TV series about a nerd who invents a computer generated supercop. In her first role, Laura plays Jessie Cole, who manages to get captured by the baddies, and is shown seated on the floor of a van with her wrists bound behind her, ankles also tied and cleavegagged with white cloth. Her slender, elegant legs are shown to good effect and she struggles and mmmmphs in the approved fashion.

The capture (no biggie -- a gun's pointed at her by a baddie driving the van) occurs with around fifteen minutes to go, and we see her bound in the back some minutes later.
Zeppo
Saturday August 28 23:01:38 2004
Re: Lagardere
> Mad Dan wrote:
>
> > Still, it prompts another survey - what do readers
> think
> > is the most attractive style of dress for a DiD?

I'll have to go with a sling thong as seen on the left and right hand side of the image in my homepage link for %100, Alex.
Pat Powers
http://www.jollyroper.com/fflist/roman/color.jpg
Saturday August 28 23:28:46 2004
Re: Other strong (nearly required) preferences besides "gag snob"?
I think a large part of the reason I'm not a "snob" in any category, is that, to paraphrase Van, "it's all about the story, not about the ropework/gagwork/blindfoldwork/chainwork/et al!" I didn't always see it that way, but I did at first, and I do now.

For example, I can enjoy hands-in-front scenes, if they help the story. Or non-gag scenes. Or arms at sides, etc.

Not every DiD scene has to have exaggerated ropework, or the same ropework. Sometimes, someone's tied hands sitting "helplessly" in their lap - though preferably with additional rope to make sure they actually are helpless - can have a nice dramatic impact. Sometimes, someone ungagged in a villain's lair, where presumably no-one outside can hear them, can increase the drama of a scene by pleading for help.

If the person is gagged, you can't see her emote with her mouth; however, she can't yell for help and is therefore more helpless. If a person is blindfolded, you can't see her emote with her eyes; however, she also can't see anything and feels more helpless, not knowing what will happen to her next. So I see pros and cons to every style, depending on what the story needs.

So for me now, it really is about the story, not (just) about the bondage. Not to mention that I do get tired of the same tying method and props over and over again.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Saturday August 28 23:52:14 2004
Agatha Christie's Poirot and Marple
Another thing I wanted to bring up. I have been downloading some cartoons (mostly Japanese), partly out of interest in watching them, but also for the possibility of catching DiD scenes and clipping them later. Like when I used to clip scenes for Raffish. (which I'll probably get back to doing when he gets his new site up)

Anyway, one of the cartoons I'm getting recently is called "Agatha Christie's Great Detectives Poirot and Marple". So far, the 3 episodes I've seen have been rather light - one did feature mobsters and a gun, but most of them have been simple stuff like a jewelry theft, or even a family trying to find their hidden inhereted gold.

The cartoon is shown on NHK, Japan's cultural equivalent of PBS (lots of shows about culture, educational shows, English lessons, world news, and imports). It does take liberties with the work, by introducing the original character of Maybelle, a teen who wants to become an apprentice to Poirot. The official website - which was in Japanese, but I had translated using BabelFish - said that the stories and method were kept close to the original novels.

That said, does anyone know if any of Agatha Christie's novels involving Poirot or Marple have a DiD scene? I also wonder about the possibility of an original DiD scene being created for a story.

The cartoon is light-hearted and more tame than Detective Conan/Case Closed, but DiD is not out of the realm of possibility.
Jazz411
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