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Sunday June 24 03:08:56 2007
STRANDED
This is a question I should have asked when the above lifetime movie premiered last year, but didn't. Since the movie was shown again friday I was hoping someone might have checked it out and could answer my question. If you remember the movie Erica Durant discovers a box that has two polaroid shots of a gagged damsel and two rings. When it first aired I always thought that both shots were of the first damsel who dissappeared and was subsequently found dead in the ziplock bag. But I've also thought the picture to the left could have been the second woman who dissappeared (Nicole)about whom nothing more was ever heard.
In short my question is are both photos of the first victim, or photos of two separate missing damsels?
hallbird
Sunday June 24 09:00:41 2007
Re: Jekyll
KJ wrote:

> What episode is that?

episode 3

james
Sunday June 24 10:54:52 2007
Re: Erika Christensen gagged in new film
Nite Owl wrote:

> The lead guy who apparently gagged her is actor Nick
> Stahl. What a lucky guy. When he was much younger he was
> the young kid with Mel Gibson in "Man Without a
> Face". Nick had that dream sequence where Fay
> Masterson was gagged with black tape. What a lucky guy.

He also played the Yellow Bastard in "Sin City". He had the opportunity to have a bound Jessica Alba on his lap, and then whip her butt. What a lucky guy!

And yes, he DID gag her - see the trailer and EPK teaser at the link below.
This is what Abel
http://howtorobabank-themovie.com
Sunday June 24 15:51:20 2007
Outposts of Gor
I did a little Googling on the topic of "Orion Slave Girl" and discovered that the Orions had this whole slaveholding and vending culture thing going on, with an especial emphasis on selling slavegirls.

Obviously, I had stumbled upon a hitherto unknown outpost of Gor.I was wondering if there were any others out there I didn't know about. (Clearly, slavegirl-owning societies are prime fodder for bondage, since you have to tie those cuties up and sometimes gag them as well.)

Some that I DO know about include:

Anchient slave-owning societies in general -- Rome, Greece, etc. as exemplilfied in such films as "Sign of the Cross" and Roman Scandals of 1933."

Arabic slavers. Problem is, most of them tend to be harem type situations, which isn't quite the same thing.

Pyleia. From the Angel episode "Cordelia Goes To Gor" as it's been called on this page. Some tasty bondage imagery here.

The Hutt organized crime empire, from "Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back." Slavegirl Leia remains the most popular costume at cons, including the collar with chain around her neck.

The slavers from the adult anime "Bondage Queen Kate."

The slavegirl operation from "Thoroughly Modern Millie"

The slave-owning society from the adult anime "Fencer of Minerva."

That's all I can think of offhand, but I'll bet there's more. Any nominees?
Pat Powers
Sunday June 24 15:57:07 2007
Re: Outposts of Gor
Pat Powers wrote:

>> Any nominees?

If I understand what you're getting at, the white slave ring from Big Trouble in Little China.

Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.jebsadventurebound.net
Sunday June 24 18:15:29 2007
Re: Outposts of Gor
> Any nominees?
> > >
Frogtown. As in "Hell Comes to Frogtown" (1988).

Infinity (whereever that is). As in "Slavegirls from Beyond Infinity" (1987).
And I'm blanking out on the planet in Buck Rogers in the 25th Century's "Planet of the Slavegirls".
Kinky-napper
Sunday June 24 18:23:19 2007
Re: Outposts of Gor
Jeb wrote:

> If I understand what you're getting at, the white slave
> ring from Big Trouble in Little China.

Yes you do. Excellent example.

Pat Powers
Sunday June 24 18:51:21 2007
Re: Outposts of Gor
Kinky-napper wrote:

> > Any nominees?
> > > >
> Frogtown. As in "Hell Comes to Frogtown"
> (1988).

Right you are. Sandahl Bergman looked pretty good tied up and chained.

> Infinity (whereever that is). As in "Slavegirls
> from Beyond Infinity" (1987).

I don't know that there was a place called infinity, but there was definitely a slaveholding culture that had interstellar transport ships with holding pens for slavegirls. Oh, sure, the chains they used had the consistency of string cheese, but they were definitely an outpost o' Gor.

> And I'm blanking out on the planet in Buck Rogers in the
> 25th Century's "Planet of the Slavegirls".

I got issues with that one. See the essay at my homepage link for a lengthy explanation. Basically, I think the episode should have been called "Planet of the Waitresses" rather than "Planet of the Slavegirls."
Pat Powers
http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/buckrogers/buckrogers.html
Sunday June 24 19:09:14 2007
This and that and nothing in particular...
...or as Susan Sarandon's longtime companion Tim Robbins was quoted as having said of her some years back at a tribute honoring her for her human rights work-which included her having been arrested at some protests-"She's photogenic in handcuffs."

Gee, that's funny-what I wanted to talk about was handcuffs, after a fashion. This past week, I managed to catch the documentary "Who Killed the Electric Car?" chronicling General Motors' introduction and subsequent withdrawal from the market-over the vehement opposition of the drivers who leased them-of the EV1 battery-powered automobile. You woudn't think there'd be anything of interest to us in a story like this, but the car developed a tiny but fanatic cult of devotees among its drivers. In a couple of scenes midway through, several of the members of said cult-who just happened to be female and rather comely ones at that-were shown being led away by police from the fenced-in parking lot from which they had tried to prevent GM from hauling away their former vehicles to be destroyed, their wrists visibly cuffed behind their backs. For a moment, I thought about dubbing it for my collection but didn't; maybe I will next time around.

Anyway, this got me to thinking-does anyone else here seek out and/or keep such scenes? Granted, it's been pretty much decided that scenes from documentaries have to fall into at least the peripheral category of "acting"-e.g., Joan Lunden's pretending to be a prisoner in a couple of episodes of her erstwhile series, or the Marie Antoinette guillotine scene in the History Channel's "The French Revolution"-to qualify for a database entry, and I'm not seeking to reopen that question here. I'm just curious as to whether anyone else here would have debated keeping the surprise "Electric Car" scene, or would have grabbed any of the other scenes similar to it that I have.

For instance, there's a reality series running on We (or is it "WE?") called "Snapped" that some of you or your significant others may be familiar with. It chronicles the crimes and trials of female murderers, and can be counted on for a good handcufing or leg-ironing now and then. Also, MSNBC's "Lockup," which ususally runs late at night and on weekends, has featured profiles of several women's correctional facilities. How many of the rest of you will admit to grabbing scenes from these shows a time or two?

Oh, and while I'm here, I've got a suggestion for those scenes-I'm back to talking about REAL acting scenes here-where the heartbreak of "male interference" threatens to spoil your day. I grabbed Hall of Famer Phyllis Coates' scene from the "Lone Ranger" episode "The Perfect Crime" the other day, and to say I was disappointed would be a bit of an understatement. Not only didn't Coates bite cloth (despite sitting placidly throughout the entire sequence-my goodness, that year as Lois Lane must have REALLY taken a lot out of her!) but none of the shots where she didn't share the frame with either John Hart (this was one of the later episodes from after Clayton Moore's ride off into the sunset) or Jay Silverheels was more than a second in length.

So, I says to myself..."Self, this IS Phyllis Coates here, and Phyllis Coates scenes are like Will Rogers described land-she ain't makin' any more of 'em! So if that thar brain of yours can rustle up a way to salvage this here scene, posterior-er, ah, POSTERITY-will be much obliged."

And then it hit me-I paused the tape just before each of the shots of Coates alone, and then crept through it frame-by-frame to make the dub. Silent and a little jerky, but at least I can watch it without being reminded of how much worse an actor Hart was than Moore. (Although Silverheels could act rings around them both, seeing him tied up doesn't particulary appeal to me either.)

Give this a try the next time you're faced with this situation. It just might save the day.
Fettershackle
Sunday June 24 20:11:43 2007
Re: This and that and nothing in particular...
Fettershackle wrote:

> led away by police from the fenced-in parking lot from
> which they had tried to prevent GM from hauling away
> their former vehicles to be destroyed, their wrists
> visibly cuffed behind their backs. For a moment, I
> thought about dubbing it for my collection but didn't;
> maybe I will next time around.

I don't understand, what's the problem with taking shots of them cuffed for your collection? Who's gonna know, or even care, other than you, and if you care, why do you care?

> Anyway, this got me to thinking-does anyone else here
> seek out and/or keep such scenes?

I don't seek 'em out. I watched a couple of documentaries on women's prisons to see if there might be some scenes, but there wasn't much, and the rest of it was so unremittingly dull and grim it just didn't seem worth it.

> For instance, there's a reality series running on We (or
> is it "WE?") called "Snapped" that
> some of you or your significant others may be familiar
> with. It chronicles the crimes and trials of female
> murderers, and can be counted on for a good handcufing or
> leg-ironing now and then.

This brings up a nomenclature problem I've been wondering about. I've always used the term "cuffed" to mean cuffed at the wrists, and "shackled" to mean cuffed at the ankles. But I've seen shackled used to mean cuffed at the wrists as well. I'm not sure what the distinction is here. Dictionary.com says shackled can be used for both. My problem with leg-iron is that it seems a clumsy and slightly archaic construct. So what is the preferred way to describe "cuffed at the ankles"? Is there any one-word term that covers it?

I'll watch the "Snapped" series, sounds like there might be some good pathos bondage.

Pat Powers
Sunday June 24 20:17:13 2007
Re: Outposts of Gor
> > Frogtown. As in "Hell Comes to Frogtown" (1988).
>
> Right you are. Sandahl Bergman looked pretty good tied up and chained.
> > >
What made Frogtown especially "Gorean" was Sandahl Bergman's plan to infiltrate the city: Strip down to her underwear, bind her wrists, and have a male lead her into town tugging a chain attached to her collar.

That way, her appearance wouldn't arouse suspicion...
Kinky-napper
Sunday June 24 20:44:11 2007
Ashley Tisdale alert
Was watching Disney Channel with the offspring and a promo came on for a "Wishes Gone Awry Weekend." One clip was a very brief shot of the delectable Ashley Tisdale bound on "The Suite Life of Zack & Cody." The show is usually quite hard to stomach, but will be worth watching for this scene, hopefully. The promo only said these shows would air "next month." If I see an exact date and time, I will post it.
O.I. Founderbound
Sunday June 24 22:06:12 2007
Re: Ashley Tisdale alert
O.I. Founderbound wrote:

> Was watching Disney Channel with the offspring and a
> promo came on for a "Wishes Gone Awry Weekend."
> One clip was a very brief shot of the delectable Ashley
> Tisdale bound on "The Suite Life of Zack &
> Cody."

first, thanks for the heads up, i looove me some Tisdale
secondly, if i had to venture a guess, i'd guess this episode, scheduled to air July 13:
Zack and Cody wish for superhero powers when they see a shooting star. Their wish comes true and they learn that Mr. Moseby is their villain, who wants to turn all kids into miniature adults.

y'know...."wishes gone awry" and whatnot

el tinko
Sunday June 24 22:33:22 2007
VAN's FiCTiON is Updated!
Good Evening Brian'skteers! Chapter 14 of "Escape From PelluciGor" is posted to VAN's FiCTiON! Enjoy!

By the way, one of the female celebrities famously arrested & cuffed during the e-car protest was... ALEXANDRA PAUL! :-)
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/vf-new-banner.jpg
http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix/2005/03/15/biz/alexandrapaul.jpg
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/images/0316-02.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Sunday June 24 22:49:43 2007
Re: VAN's FiCTiON is Updated!
Van wrote:

> By the way, one of the female celebrities famously
> arrested & cuffed during the e-car protest was...
> ALEXANDRA PAUL! :-)

Oh... & before Mr. Moderator throws a hissie and deletes the post with the photos, I beg an exception!! I know what we laughingly call the "real world" is off-topic, but Ms. Paul has *10* hits in the dBase. Also (& a more reasonable cause for clemency), Alexandra is in the credits of "Who Killed the Electric Car?" (2006). http://imdb.com/title/tt0489037/ I don't know if the protest scene is in the movie, but it *is* a movie! This is *definitely* on-topic... *meta-*on-topic, anyway. ;-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Sunday June 24 23:51:09 2007
Re: Outposts of Gor
Just thought of another one: all those slavegirls in "Fatal Conflict" "Sleeping Dogs" "Hell Mountain" and most especially "Dakota Bound" (which featured an auction). Best outfitting of any outpost of Gor to date.
http://www.bondagerotica.com/extras/gags6.jpg
http://www.bondagerotica.com/extras/worktable3.jpg
Pat Powers

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