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Tuesday July 31 01:46:17 2007
Wrestling chicks bound and tortured at Ringdivas.com
I'm not sure if anyone here has seen these Heroine Destruction movies, but for those non-gag snobs who are into hot athletic chicks being bound and tortured, there are some movies you may be interested in.

Sayuri Blood Chronicles (which has an IMDB entry that I think classifies it as "mainstream") features a hottie (Meng Lau, who's been in Maxim in the past) as "Empress Sayuri". The last 20+ minutes of the 35 minute movie have Sayuri chained to a pole wrists overhead/AOH wearing a hot bra and panty set getting punched in the stomach, getting smashed in her lower back, and getting tasered, mostly when she's nice and sweaty. The dialogue is non-existent with the exception of Sayuri's moans of pain, which I think are well acted. I downloaded the 2 scenes from the site below at $10/ea and am very satisfied. I attached a collage of one of the second scene.

The site below also gives us a tease pic from an upcoming Heroine Destruction movie called Girls of War. If you click on the "3" on the page below, you see an interesting picture of a sweaty hot chick ("Crystal Johnson") who appears to be sweatily chained up while wearing a tight white tank top. I've seen a short preview clip of the movie that shows the hot redhead ("SoCal Val", who was been on one of the 2nd tier wrestling shows) getting caught by a villainess at gunpoint. If Heroine Destruction's first movie (Sayuri) is any indication, Girls of War could also be very productive in terms of torture scenes involving hot girls. Since the girls are from wrestling leagues, they can probably sell a torture scene pretty good.
http://www.ringdivashop.com/catalog/images/vod_SayuriBloodChroniclesPt3_LARGE.jpg
MAV
mav6666_1@yahoo.com
http://www.ringdivashop.com/catalog/heroinedestruction.php
Tuesday July 31 02:05:46 2007
Rob Zombie's Halloween
This post was deleted.

Poster: Mike
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Tuesday July 31 02:42:52 2007
Re: (Sci-Fi TV series)
Pat Powers wrote:

> I didn't know I was the board SF expert.

Just having abit of fun Pat

I know you didn't start it,
but first figured with what? 1 movie & 3 TV eps for "Flash Gordon", "Go ahead with no DiDs, the German gals will make that up in one night"
Didn't realise about the 40's comics. Good one! ;)
Jay L
Tuesday July 31 06:09:43 2007
Re: Lohan
47 wrote:

> Who has seen this movie? I hear Lohan is kidnapped and
> tied twice in the movie, this true?

I haven't seen it, but a poster mentioned that she gets tied up and cleave-gagged in one scene.
This is what Abel
Tuesday July 31 06:13:54 2007
Re: Rose Byrne
Ice Cream Man wrote:
> Holy underpants! Wow! I don't know who Rose Byrne is,
> but she just shot to 2nd on my list of potential DiD's

Rose Byrne appeared in the Brad Pitt movie "Troy", where she had a hands-tied-behind-her-back-to-a-pole scene. She's a pretty cute actress, although in "Troy" she was in a bad state (her face and clothes were dirty) and Brad Pitt untied her a couple of seconds after the scene began.
This is what Abel
Tuesday July 31 08:13:58 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
Pat Powers wrote:
>
> It's not coincidence that the most productive series of
> novels ever was set in the sword and sorcery subgenre of science fiction -- John Norman's Gor novels. He knew what he was doing.

Can't argue with that, other than to say I wouldn't personally classify Sword and Sorcery as a subgenre of sci-fi any more than i would horror (another genre that can be very productive in it's own right). I think S&S can be classed as a genre of it's own and a very good one for our interests- Hercules, Xena, Deathstalker, Conan (the comics at least)

Of course Gor is something of an anomoly, mixing sci-fi elements (alternate earth, Priest Kings, etc) with a more primitive 'barbarian' society ala Conan's Hybernian Age. A very hard one to categorise.

For me though there are mostly four distinct groups - Scifi (meaning anything involving space &/or aliens), sword and sorcery , Horror/supernatural and Fantasy. There is a degree of crossover but most shows/films/books can be categorised under one or the other.
To take 4 of this years films as examples they would be classified thus

Sci fi - Sunburn (no scene)
Sword & sorcery - Beowulf (maybe)
Horror - I know who Killed me (Scene?)
Fantasy -Stardust (scene - albeit with putz)

Hope that sheds some light on where i'm coming from with this.
moxx of Balhoom
Tuesday July 31 08:38:12 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
moxx of Balhoom wrote:

> Scifi (meaning anything involving space &/or aliens),

HG Wells's "The Time Machine" and Michael Crichton's "Jurassic Park" are just two of many SF stories that don't mention space or aliens once. SF is, by definition, about scientific developments or discoveries and their consequences.

The genre that menaces damsels with aliens and extraterrestrial bondage perils is called Space Opera.
Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Tuesday July 31 09:15:53 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
Mad Dan wrote:

>
> HG Wells's "The Time Machine" and Michael
> Crichton's "Jurassic Park" are just two of
> many SF stories that don't mention space or aliens once.
> SF is, by definition, about scientific developments or
> discoveries and their consequences.
>
> The genre that menaces damsels with aliens and
> extraterrestrial bondage perils is called Space Opera.

I concede i'd forgotten about those, i should i suppose classify Sci-fi as something which has a grounding in science, including Wells, Verne and others of that ilk. Magic however i would not classify as Sci-fi.
Therefore Frankenstein = Scifi, A Conneticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court = Fantasy.

This is the problem with genre stuff, there are so many factions and variations lumping everything under one banner doesn't do it justice.

Ah darn it, The Lost world - sci fi? or fantasy? I can't decide.
Ever wish you hadn't started something?

moxx of Balhoom
Tuesday July 31 10:33:52 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
moxx of Balhoom wrote:


>
> I concede i'd forgotten about those, i should i suppose
> classify Sci-fi as something which has a grounding in
> science, including Wells, Verne and others of that ilk.
> Magic however i would not classify as Sci-fi.

> This is the problem with genre stuff, there are so many
> factions and variations lumping everything under one
> banner doesn't do it justice.

True. Very few stories are entirely of one genre.

Frank Herbert's "Dune" is primarily SF, with elements of space opera and fantasy. The planets, the ecologies and the aerospacecraft are pure SF. So are the force fields and drugs, inasmuch as they are pseudoscientifically explained in some detail. The psychic prescience, though, I'd class as fantasy.

The manipulative powers of the Bene Gesserit sisterhood appear magical to most, but have a quasi-scientific basis. Fear of the Voice, of course, leads to Lady Jessica being bound and gagged by her (Space Opera) captors. She escapes partly by means of her scientifically-based training in seduction technique.

> Therefore Frankenstein = Scifi, A Conneticut Yankee in
> King Arthur's Court = Fantasy.

Mary Shelley's novel was certainly SF, though some of the film adaptations have strayed into horror and fantasy.

The Yankee is pure fantasy, with no scientific explanation offered.
>

>
> Ah darn it, The Lost world - sci fi? or fantasy? I can't
> decide.

Which one? The Conan Doyle novel was mainly SF in its time, but film and TV adaptations have veered into fantasy, and other productions have used the name without reference to the original.

One little SF/fantasy gem, almost forgotten, is "The Secret People", a short story by John Wyndham writing as John Beynon (he used various combinations of his four names) before he acquired his literary gravitas.

This is a classic subterranean adventure in which the heroine is carried, tightly bound and gagged with strips of her 1930s silk dress, through caverns full of glowing fungi. Just right for a 1-hour TV movie. :-)


> Ever wish you hadn't started something?

Yes, frequently. There's a thread on a Yahoo group....
Oh, never mind.


Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Tuesday July 31 11:07:18 2007
Re: (Sci-Fi TV series) - Jason StarCommand
Snowcat wrote:

***** I recall it! I don't remember who the lead chickie was but she was Very hot and she did have a scene standing with her hands in stocks next to the putz. *****

Yes, likely Susan Pratt?
Though did you check out in IMDB how they had a Playboy-playmate in the cast as well? Humourous


***** The lil pocket robot ******

Apparently it's name is Wikky.
Guess it left acting to start up the Wikipedia site? ;)
Jay L
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078631/
Tuesday July 31 11:12:57 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
Mad Dan wrote:
> Mary Shelley's novel was certainly SF, though some of the
> film adaptations have strayed into horror and fantasy.

Yeah, it would seem that such a book was the basis of those japanese robots
Tuesday July 31 11:20:45 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
moxx of Balhoom wrote:

> Can't argue with that, other than to say I wouldn't
> personally classify Sword and Sorcery as a subgenre of
> sci-fi any more than i would horror (another genre that
> can be very productive in it's own right). I think
> S&S can be classed as a genre of it's own and a very
> good one for our interests- Hercules, Xena, Deathstalker,
> Conan (the comics at least)

It's probably the single most productive genre, when you consider movies like Amazon Queen, Amazon Warrior, Warrior Queen and so forth and so on, which almost always seem to contain at least one scene, and often several. Furthermore the scenes are often very good scenes.

Possibly the cop and detective genres contain a numerically greater number of scenes, just because there are so friggin many cop and detective movies and TV shows. But the vast majority of their scenes tend to be marginal cuff scenes as a female perp is hauled off to the slammer, or dull chair ties where the DiD sits in a chair until released. They do have some great scenes, which I think is strictly a matter of quantity.

> Of course Gor is something of an anomoly, mixing sci-fi
> elements (alternate earth, Priest Kings, etc) with a more
> primitive 'barbarian' society ala Conan's Hybernian Age.
> A very hard one to categorise.

Gor's hard to characterize because it was actually written as a member of an extinct subgenre called "planetary romances" which were more or less started by, and mostly consist of (nowadays) the John Carter of Mars series by Burroughs. It's clearly not sword and sorcery because there's no magic and sorcery in it, in fact, the protagonists and most warriors don't really buy into religion.

Fortunately, they do buy into female sex slavery, big time.

> For me though there are mostly four distinct groups -
> Scifi (meaning anything involving space &/or aliens),
> sword and sorcery , Horror/supernatural and Fantasy.
> There is a degree of crossover but most shows/films/books
> can be categorised under one or the other.
> To take 4 of this years films as examples they would be
> classified thus
>
> Sci fi - Sunburn (no scene)
> Sword & sorcery - Beowulf (maybe)
> Horror - I know who Killed me (Scene?)
> Fantasy -Stardust (scene - albeit with putz)

A fair grouping. Sword & Sorcery I would consider a subgenre of fantasy, though. It doesn't have enough distinct characteristics to be a genre on its own. It's just the most popular subgenre. If you took Sword & Sorcery out of fantasy, what would be left?
Pat Powers
Tuesday July 31 11:25:25 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
moxx of Balhoom wrote:

> This is the problem with genre stuff, there are so many
> factions and variations lumping everything under one
> banner doesn't do it justice.
>
> Ah darn it, The Lost world - sci fi? or fantasy? I can't
> decide. Ever wish you hadn't started something?


This is why I lumped SF and F together as 'things shelved together in bookstores and video stores.' I was trying to slide past this whole mess unnoticed. Well that didn't work.
Pat Powers
Tuesday July 31 11:25:38 2007
big brother
Hi Was wondering if anyone watched the other night when Zach mentioned someones favorite item being a ballgag. Just wondering who he was talking about and what was siad about it if anyone watched it. Thanks
7
Tuesday July 31 11:30:36 2007
Re: (Sci-Fi TV series)
Pat Powers wrote:

> Jay L
> I didn't even know about the Canadian Nebula Rangers with
the Incredible Floating Dildo Torture Device and the
Handcuff Guns until you pointed it out.


Oh yes, I lost that clip and waiting for it to re-air. There's some new guys who will find that show hilarious
Jay L
Tuesday July 31 11:35:39 2007
"The Signal" Possibility
I just found out a movie on IMDb called "The Signal". While reading the "cast and crew" list (Random Body, Random Body, Random Body, Random Bodies, Random Bodies, Random Bodies, Random Bodies, Random Bodies, Deaf Woman, Mute Murdered Woman etc.), I spotted a role called "Ducttaped Woman", played by a one Tristan Towne.

Then, I read the IMDb User Reviews for this movie, and one of them mentioned that one of the weapons used in this movie is "lots and lots of duct tape".

Maybe this has a good tape bondage scene!
This is what Abel
Tuesday July 31 11:55:54 2007
Young and Restless
3 shows after the kidnapping takes place, Amber finally gets tied up on the show that shows in Canada today, and will air Wednesday in the USA. From the listing, it appears the tying takes place near the end of the episode, but can't be certain. No mention of a gag...
gaglover
Tuesday July 31 13:05:37 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
Pat Powers wrote:

> Sword and Sorcery
> It's probably the single most productive genre
>
> Fortunately, they do buy into female sex slavery, big
> time.


Try and tap you Sci-Fi Experts here again since you're on a roll:

Whilst in school, (Mark this rough in/around 1978)
there this one guy who'd bring in a new book almost every week with covers that featured a scantily clad woman bound, or chained to something. Well as guys holding huge swords/dragons etc. Naturally the teachers were checking the covers for nudity- but bikini type outfits normally passed.

Got interesting when a teacher whom I figured a hard-arse said going to talk to him about one of the covers. Figured gone to far, going to get the strap, etc
But it turned out the teacher's hobby was art. Pretty good. Had this say 17"x13" book of cover art. Some fantastic drawings in it.

Problem being can't draw and the Teacher's drawings all swordsmen & dragons variety, so didn't ask for Title/Author in case asked "Why?". Tried my luck at the bookstore without success.

That's the background info best as can relate.

Awhile back, Pat Powers had an image up on his site very close to an image in the book. Set off on Google/Bookstore search. Found a similar book, but it from the 90's and about 8"x6". There not much dragons in that one.

Haven't given up trying for this bigger one for Scanning/passaround,
figure an author, or title away? from nailing it.
Any assist appreciated
Jay L
Tuesday July 31 14:15:37 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
Jay L wrote:


> Problem being can't draw and the Teacher's drawings all
> swordsmen & dragons variety, so didn't ask for
> Title/Author in case asked "Why?". Tried my
> luck at the bookstore without success.

Sounds like it could have been a Gor novel cover. My homepage link goes to a site with all the Gor novel covers including foreign editions. Even if you don't find the image you're looking for, there's still lots of tasty slavegirls in chains and whatnot to look at.

> Awhile back, Pat Powers had an image up on his site very
> close to an image in the book.

It would probably a help a lot if you could tell me which image.
Pat Powers
http://www.jonrhus.com/books/
Tuesday July 31 14:40:03 2007
Britnes Spears (sort of...)
Found this picture in the mirror today of britney spears where she seems to have wrapped her scarf around her head and mouth (its not great but it kinda worked for me) I'm sorry i'm useless at posting pictures but the link is here

http://www.mirror.co.uk/showbiz/3am/2007/07/31/britney-s-downfall-continues-89520-19545488/
The Goat
Tuesday July 31 15:13:15 2007
Assessment
Jay L wrote:
Haven't given up trying for this bigger one for
Scanning/passaround.

Despite repeated warnings concerning submitting 'NON full-treatment scenes', Jay L continues to defy me - THIS will not be tolerated ..
You will of course be beaten senseless, if nothing else, as a warning to others - govern yourself accordingly.

Consider the following rather pathetic offering:
http://www.majorjohns.com/counterstrike9.rm

http://majorjohns.com/counterstrike9.jpeg
Stephanie
Tuesday July 31 15:39:52 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
Pat Powers wrote:

> My
> homepage link goes to a site with all the Gor novel
> covers including foreign editions.
> It would probably a help a lot if you could tell me which image.

Good man!
http://www.jonrhus.com/books/covers/gor01b.jpg

That the one almost exact to this book Pat.
Difference being, the 90's book to scan would give you same as the image - smaller, with title, etc.
The book from the 70's I'm after has a larger image by itself.

One other problem,
last time I'd seen your image, figured the guy reading Gor, or Karg books and searched the used bookstore for them. Catch the artist name, search on him. But there was other books like "Conan" from '77 -> with the exact same covers. Threw off the artist search

Anyway, still feeling closer to getting ahold of this. Be scanning and passing around that beaut when do

Thanks Pat
Jay L
Tuesday July 31 15:48:18 2007
Re: Assessment
Stephanie wrote:

> Despite repeated warnings concerning submitting 'NON
> full-treatment scenes', Jay L continues to defy me - THIS
> will not be tolerated ..
> You will of course be beaten senseless, if nothing else,
> as a warning to others


Get in line.
Matt Walker & DJ King are after my head for having fun with Brian R.


Besides, rather enjoyed that "pathetic scene"
Jay L
Tuesday July 31 17:05:37 2007
The Chinatown Death Cloud Peril
I just completed this novel, whose plot concerns three famous writers of pulp fiction who become embroiled in an exciting pulp adventure of their own. The three writers are Walter Gibson, creator of The Shadow, Lester Dent, creator of Doc Savage, and the infamous Lafayette Ron Hubbard.
Late in the story, Lester Dent's gorgeous wife, Norma, is captured by the dastardly villains and tied with her arms overhead.
Hadji
Tuesday July 31 17:26:23 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
Jay L wrote:

> One other problem,
> last time I'd seen your image, figured the guy reading
> Gor, or Karg books and searched the used bookstore for
> them. Catch the artist name, search on him.

I have that book. The frontispiece says the cover art is by Boris Vallejo. He did several Gor novel covers.

Pat Powers
Tuesday July 31 17:58:03 2007
Re: Young and Restless
gaglover wrote:

> 3 shows after the kidnapping takes place, Amber finally
> gets tied up on the show that shows in Canada today,


Correct,
she start with a coathanger? on the door handle. Gets caught.
Bound wrists in front, ankles and cleave gagged.

This guy come in, figured it over but it's not.
At end of the show he's B&G'd and She tied with the gag now hanging around her neck.

Set your VHS machine tomorrow Kevin W!
Jay L
Tuesday July 31 18:02:35 2007
I Know Who Killed Me
Sorry for the quality, but figure something's better than nothing.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4936/ll01oo9.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9277/ll02qp0.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4843/ll03oq3.jpg
Tuesday July 31 18:05:45 2007
I Know Who Killed Me #2
Some more...
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9739/ll04ty7.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2285/ll05bo3.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4711/ll06vj2.jpg
Tuesday July 31 18:06:54 2007
I Know Who Killed Me #3
And one more...
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4711/ll06vj2.jpg
Tuesday July 31 18:41:28 2007
Re: I Know Who Killed Me #3
Awesome, thanks. Lohan with a knoted cleave.
Tuesday July 31 18:43:37 2007
Re: I Know Who Killed Me #3
Finally somebody comes through to solve the mystery here.

Hey, do you hear that? ....


... it's 200,000 brianspage.com fanboys going wild in the streets. Lohan got the treatment!
X
Tuesday July 31 18:47:20 2007
Re: I Know Who Killed Me
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> Sorry for the quality, but figure something's better than
> nothing.

The quality is more than adequate. Thank you for the awesome pictures of Lindsey Lohan bound and gagged!

Hadji
Tuesday July 31 20:30:25 2007
Re: I Know Who Killed Me
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Sorry for the quality, but figure something's better than nothing.

Thanks! Clearly not at all like the scene with the white tape, so can we assume the white tape scene is in the movie but is just a medical attchment and not a gag?

Tuesday July 31 20:32:22 2007
J Par
This post was moved to The Trading Forum.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Tech questions -> Trade
The Moderator
Tuesday July 31 20:35:44 2007
Ideal
This post was moved to The Video Page.

Poster: Rhavin
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Tuesday July 31 20:50:59 2007
Re: I Know Who Killed Me
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the quality, but figure something's better
> than nothing.
>

It was nice to post the pictures, but it's not that great of a scene, from what I can see. But everyone will have a different view.


Merry Miller
Tuesday July 31 21:06:15 2007
Re: I Know Who Killed Me
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> so can we assume the white tape scene is in the
> movie but is just a medical attchment and not a gag?


Yep, it's just tape holding in a breathing tube.

Tuesday July 31 21:46:01 2007
Re: I Know Who Killed Me
unsigned poster wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry for the quality, but figure something's
> better
> > than nothing.
> >
>
> It was nice to post the pictures, but it's not that great
> of a scene, from what I can see. But everyone will have
> a different view.


Thanks for the pics bro! Personally I love a thin cleave with a knot in it as a gag. And despite all her off-camera antics Ms. Lohan IS pretty hot.

So wudja do...sneak a camera into the theatre? ;-)

Good job!

JP
japfeif@aol.com
Tuesday July 31 23:08:49 2007
Re: I Know Who Killed Me #3
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> And one more...
>

Great catches, THHANX for sharing !!!!!!!!!

Now the question is does a good knotted cleave gag make up for the lame strapped to a something bondage ?

For me the answer is no, but that is just my preference.

Thanx again.
Jacot
Tuesday July 31 23:08:51 2007
Re: I Know Who Killed Me
JP wrote:

> unsigned poster wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry for the quality, but figure
> something's
> > better
> > > than nothing.
> > >
> >
> > It was nice to post the pictures, but it's not that
> great
> > of a scene, from what I can see. But everyone will
> have
> > a different view.
>
>
> Thanks for the pics bro! Personally I love a thin cleave
> with a knot in it as a gag. And despite all her
> off-camera antics Ms. Lohan IS pretty hot.
>
> So wudja do...sneak a camera into the theatre? ;-)

Good job!


Thanks for the pics! I was so excited about the pictures surfacing that I had to go find the movie and here's the link. It's from a site called ALLUC. They put up movies as soon as they got into the theaters. Saves you some cash at the show. Here's the direct link to the page. The scene begins at about the 15 min mark of part 1 and continues near the very end of that part. Things pick up again at the very start of part two and last for a little bit but not too long. I'd say maybe a 3-4 min scene for Ms. Lohan. WARNING the scenes are very graphic with Lindsay's character getting her finger cut off at the very start of the part two. I hope everybody enjoys!
Bud
http://www11.alluc.org/alluc/movies.html?action=getviewcategory&category_uid=16760
Tuesday July 31 23:57:09 2007
Hannah Montana
We found a youtube clip with the scene discussed here recently. It's in the Video forum.
The House of Le Bastard

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