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| Tuesday July 24 00:44:35 2007 Re: I need to Understand |
| The Engineer wrote:
> > > I could block images from them. > > > I don't see how this would help. > > The only concern that I would address would be images > linked here that were doing what you describe. > > > Anyway, even if you blocked them this would not help > > because the visitors here, I am sure, visit many > > other sites and the risk is there too. Er, yes, there are plenty of people who have access to lists of the I.P. addresses of everyone who visits this site. Quite frankly, I'm one of them, by the simple act of having posted images here that are hosted by my (or rather Bindher's) ISP. It doesn't take Java to do this; Java is a total red herring. All it takes is the basic infrastructure of the web. When you load a page that has images linked, you're not just making a request from the servers at Brian's ISP: you're also making a request from whichever servers are hosting those images. By default, those servers will generally log the I.P. address of the http-referrer (i.e. the site from which you linked to them), as well as your own address. So, for instance, when you visit an adult site that has a hundred tacky banner ads linked from its front page, every one of those businesses knows you by your I.P. address -- including perhaps a government agency or three with a really sexy banner. The moderator can't do anything about this problem, short of shutting down image posts entirely (which I hope he won't). It's more about, let the reader beware. |
| Raffish |
| Tuesday July 24 02:44:20 2007 Re: Days of Our Lives Possible?? |
| David Knight wrote:
Did anybody > else happen to see this ad? If not, Lord knows when the > actual event might show, but it looks like something to keep an eye on. Preview is for this weeks shows. Showed Allison Sweeney laying in a bed sleeping or unconcious next to Stefano. Couldn't tell if there are any restraints. Sami is pregnant in the show if that matters to anyone. |
| MT |
| http://www.nbc.com/Days_of_our_Lives/video/#cat=new |
| Tuesday July 24 02:47:58 2007 Re: Days of Our Lives Possible?? |
| MT wrote:
> Preview is for this weeks shows. Click on "Weekly Preview" tab to see the video. |
| Tuesday July 24 05:06:57 2007 Re: Same Actress, Same Director |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Hadji wrote: > > How about Victoria Abril being bound and gagged in > two > > films by the inimitable Pedrom Almodovar? > > i believe he only directed one (although she has been in > two, at least.) I'm pretty sure that Pedro Almodovar directed two movies in which Victoria Abril was bound and gagged. |
| Hadji |
| Tuesday July 24 05:34:12 2007 Re: Same Actress, Same Director |
| Hadji wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that Pedro Almodovar directed two movies > in which Victoria Abril was bound and gagged. Well I cross referenced the DB (5 entries for Victoria Abril)with the IMDB and found two matches. However only Tie Me Up Tie Me down is a full treatment, the other Pedro Almodovar film is High Heels, and she's only handcuffed in that when her charector is arrested. |
| moxx of Balhoom |
| Tuesday July 24 06:05:54 2007 Re: Hairspray |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> el tinko wrote: > > > Bynes replies, "Not the jump rope again!" > > > Thanks, it was mentioned the scene was short but sweet; > short as in 3 seconds or short as in 30 seconds? 1 - 2 minutes, I've composed a DB entry but i can't add it as i'm not at home and don't have my password to hand, I will endeavour to do it tonight |
| moxx of Balhoom |
| Tuesday July 24 06:10:26 2007 Re: Hanna Montana |
| Jason wrote:
> > > Ice wrote: > > > I heard that Hanna Montana got tied up by her twin > > cousin. Anyone see this episode? > > I saw it episode around Halloween last year. Hannah's > twin cousin hit the button on the rotating closet & > the real Hannah spun out on it. Her hands were tied in > front, ankles tied & gagged with a feather boa that > covered most of her face. Hannah's cousin taunted her, > which caused Hannah to mmmph slightly. The scene ended > with the fake Hannah leaving & the real Hannah > spitting out her gag & feathers. She wasn't shown > getting untied at all. Is it just me or there is there something especially delicious about evil twin kidnappings? There's something about the idea of a beautiful woman struggling bound and gagged while an imposter takes over her life, fooling her loved ones and leaving them oblivious to her plight Incidently was Hannah's double played by the same actress? Or does she really have an identical cousin? |
| moxx of Balhoom |
| Tuesday July 24 08:40:44 2007 Re: No Release |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Does anyone know of any other scenes where there is no release scene for the damsel? I like "no-release" too. As far as I can remember, "What's The Worst That Could Happen" and "D.E.B.S." had no-release scenes, but there were several putzes along with the B&G damsels. I'll try to remember some more, putz-less scenes when the only thing an actress does in a movie is being B&G. Oh, let's not forget the scenes which have an unfortunate end for the damsel(s), such as the twin blondes scene in "CSI". The episode began with them bound and gagged. And then they were killed. Another example is Eleni C. Krimitsos in "Machinehead". |
| This is what Abel |
| Tuesday July 24 09:16:27 2007 Big Love Scene |
| Perhaps it was a repeat, but what's the name of the actress who was hog-tied with a wrap-around duct tape gag on HBO's Big Love last night? Just caught a glimpse of this brief scene ... perhaps the actress was on the "older" side but wondered if it was Mary Kay Place? |
| Stephen |
| Tuesday July 24 10:59:34 2007 Re: Same Actress, Same Director |
| moxx of Balhoom wrote:
> Hadji wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure that Pedro Almodovar directed two > movies > > in which Victoria Abril was bound and gagged. > > Well I cross referenced the DB (5 entries for Victoria > Abril)with the IMDB and found two matches. However only > Tie Me Up Tie Me down is a full treatment, the other > Pedro Almodovar film is High Heels, and she's only > handcuffed in that when her charector is arrested. Victoria Abril its boun and gagged to in the movie "Barrios Altos" http://spanish.imdb.com/title/tt0092619/. Its not an Almodovar film but its a great scene. |
| Tuesday July 24 12:09:00 2007 Re: No Release |
| In "Genie In A String Bikini" a bad girl is magically put in chains during the course of the movie (it's Skinamax, plot not important) and in the closing credits you see her, still in chains, calling out for someone to release her.
Guess that'd quality. |
| Pat Powers |
| Tuesday July 24 12:52:08 2007 Re: No Release |
| This is what Abel wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > end for the damsel(s), such as the twin blondes scene in > "CSI". The episode began with them bound and > gagged. And then they were killed. Were these two gorgeous blonde twins who were bound and gagged together and then brutally murdered ever mentioned again in a "CSI" episode? What were the circumstances of their captivity? How did they come to be kidnapped? Surely their homicides did not escape the notice of Las Vegas law enforcement. |
| Hadji |
| Tuesday July 24 13:18:27 2007 Re: No Release |
| Hadji wrote:
> Were these two gorgeous blonde twins who were bound and > gagged together and then brutally murdered ever mentioned > again in a "CSI" episode? From what I've read, they were not mentioned after the opening. |
| Tuesday July 24 13:21:53 2007 CSI Twins |
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| Tuesday July 24 14:33:13 2007 Re: Moxx - Evil Twin Kidnappings |
| moxx of Balhoom wrote:
> Is it just me or there is there something especially > delicious about evil twin kidnappings? For interested, I "caught" and going to clip the (Sunsilk?) shampoo/conditioner commercial. "Even though her/her evil twin tied her to a chair, she's not afraid of the blowdryer! Keeps her luscious, full bodied hair that makes the guys notice her!" Perhaps, this evil twin kidnapping/bondage will make it past majorjohns.com standards, even though "Gagless"? (Trying alittle peer-pressure here) If not, can always discuss this over on Trades page => |
| Jay L |
| Tuesday July 24 14:38:39 2007 Re: I knw Who Killed Me |
| Will be interesting to see if that was an actual white tape gag
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| Tuesday July 24 15:14:30 2007 Disturbia |
| Any other scenes where the rescuer doesn't ungag the damsel even though he's in the process of doing it?
Another one was the Baywatch scene with Nicole Eggert |
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| Tuesday July 24 15:22:51 2007 Re: I need to Understand |
| Raffish wrote:
> knows you by your I.P. > address -- including perhaps a government agency or three > > The moderator can't do anything about this Raffish Raffish good chap! Realise you're just answering a question, but this a *real touchy* with some posters here. Why I'd had fun with the Moderator on Trades to calm down the concerned about the above reason So going to add here some of us have been mailing back/forth to each other for about 10 years. All that time, knowing ISPs and home mailing addresses a Government agency only dinged me twice: $17 and some and near $10 - Reassessment tax (They didn't like Pennsylvannia, nor David Knight) That's it. |
| Jay L |
| Tuesday July 24 15:29:29 2007 Re: Disturbia |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Any other scenes where the rescuer doesn't ungag the > damsel even though he's in the process of doing it? > Plenty come to mind. "Lois & Clark" with Teri Hatcher tape-gagged on the bed. Alexandra Paul in "Facing the Enemy." Heather Medway in "Viper." Anne-Marie Martin in "Sledge Hammer." |
| Tuesday July 24 17:23:57 2007 Re: Disturbia |
| > Any other scenes where the rescuer doesn't ungag the
> damsel even though he's in the process of doing it? Robert Vaughn keeping on Yvonne Craig's white tape gag in UNCLE despite the fact he holds her chin (not that we minded) |
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| Tuesday July 24 18:08:42 2007 Re: I need to Understand |
| Captureher wrote:
>IMO I don't think it's too far off topic since that is a > possible problem; my firewall blocks outside intrusions > and I don't even have messenger. How do you disable java > in IE? I checked options but couldn't find it. On my version of MSIE it was disabled by default except for trusted sites. That's how I discovered the problem long ago. Others would talk about images on this site that I could not see. I then discovered that the reason that I could not see them was because there were Java applets. The good news is that I have not given away my ip address and other information. The bad news is that I did not see those images. I now use Mozilla which is much safer and operate under sandboxie and Tor when I want to see Java stuff unles I absolutely trust the site. I trust Brian, it is the sites that get linked here that are the issue. |
| Tuesday July 24 18:11:33 2007 Re: I need to Understand |
| >>(unsigned poster) wrote:
>>Hope this helps. I do not believe that Javascript is an issue. I have never seen a Javascript exploit that does the types of things that we are worried about and it would be a bug in Javascript if it were possible. Java on the other hand defines that it is possible. What a horrible confusion that they both start Java since there really is very little relationship between these languages |
| Tuesday July 24 18:15:25 2007 Re: I need to Understand |
| The Engineer wrote:
> > The only concern that I would address would be images > linked here that were doing what you describe. I agree with that. But unless you are going to load the supposed image and check that it is really what it says that it is how can you do this? Worse, if I was the person doing this I would make sure that when it was your ip address I would send a real image/jpeg but when it was someone else I would send the applet that would display the image and do whatever else. |
| Tuesday July 24 18:24:43 2007 Re: I need to Understand |
| Raffish wrote:
> Er, yes, there are plenty of people who have access to > lists of the I.P. addresses of everyone who visits this > site. Quite frankly, I'm one of them, by the simple act > of having posted images here that are hosted by my (or > rather Bindher's) ISP. It doesn't take Java to do this; > Java is a total red herring. All it takes is the basic > infrastructure of the web. Yes and no. If you use one of the many anonymizers then the getting of an image will probably be masked but the applet will go directly since most of the anonymizers use http proxies and the images come via http whereas the applet can do whatever it wants. Also, there is little information that is transmitted with your image request, as you say, the ip, browser and potentially cookies. Whereas the Java applet can send anything that it has access to, without your knowing. > > The moderator can't do anything about this problem, short > of shutting down image posts entirely (which I hope he > won't). It's more about, let the reader beware. He could, although I do not advocate this, allow the images to be uploaded to his server. Then he would know that there were really images and not applets. He could even, and I am not suggesting that he does this much work, have his code load the supposed image and check that it really is an image. |
| Tuesday July 24 18:31:52 2007 Re: Disturbia |
| > > Any other scenes where the rescuer doesn't ungag the damsel even though he's in the process of doing it?
---- Cheryl Ladd in "One West Waikiki". Karen Kopins in "Once Bitten" (1985). |
| Kinky-napper |
| Tuesday July 24 19:11:53 2007 Olly girls |
| If you go to eonline.com and click on the 'vine video' Olly girls guide to boat safety, topic 3 of this dumb little clip is 'knots'--a way to deal with 'unruly passengers'. One of the olly girls is tied AOH by the other (no tying shown). Not a great shot--you can't really see much besides her face and her arms tied (unfortunate, since she's in a bikini)--but the spirit is there!
The Olly girls guide to summer is run at some point during the week on E! news for taping purposes. |
| ss |
| Tuesday July 24 19:37:57 2007 Re: Olly girls |
| ss wrote:
> One of the olly girls is tied AOH by the > other (no tying shown). Not a great shot--you can't > really see much besides her face and her arms tied > (unfortunate, since she's in a bikini)--but the spirit is > there! It is in fact on E! News tonight. It reruns at 8am and 12pm tomorrow. Roughly 15 minutes into the show. |
| ss |
| Tuesday July 24 19:56:59 2007 Re: Disturbia |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> > > Any other scenes where the rescuer doesn't > ungag the damsel even though he's in the process of doing > it? > ---- > Cheryl Ladd in "One West Waikiki". > > Karen Kopins in "Once Bitten" (1985). My personal favorite is... Record number: 1789 Title: Class Act Medium: TV Series Actress: Joanna Lumley, Unknown Description: Episode: "1" In the series premier Kate Swift (Lumley) is bound hands behind to a chair and cleave-gagged with a thick white cloth with a bomb rigged to blow in a few minutes. Her friends come to rescue her but they don't know about the bomb. Great struggling scenes and noises. Gagged on screen. After she is rescued she finds the bad guy's girlfriend tied to the railings in the street which promps her to say. "Oh, leave her. She'll probably pick up some bondage customers." |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Tuesday July 24 20:09:36 2007 I knw Who Killed Me |
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This post was deleted. Poster: (unsigned poster) Reason: Off-topic. |
| The Moderator |
| Tuesday July 24 20:10:52 2007 Re: I know Who Killed Me |
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| The Moderator |
| Tuesday July 24 20:13:32 2007 Re: I need to Understand |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> I agree with that. But unless you are going to load the > supposed image and check that it is really what it says > that it is how can you do this? I would take information from users who have experienced the problem, of course. > Worse, if I was the > person doing this I would make sure that when it was your > ip address I would send a real image/jpeg Like I'm unable to have others check it for me? |
| The Engineer |
| Tuesday July 24 20:17:13 2007 Re: I need to Understand |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> He could, although I do not advocate this, allow the > images to be uploaded to his server. This will not be an option. > He could even, and I am not suggesting that he does this > much work, have his code load the supposed image and > check that it really is an image. That would depend on what it would entail, but it's unlikely. The various entities here aren't really very worked up about it, except as it might slow things down for users. |
| The Engineer |
| Tuesday July 24 21:01:06 2007 Hitchhiker blooper |
| On the lighter side...
I just clipped The Hitchhiker -- not great, but not bad despite the hands in front and not nearly enough of them ball gags -- and wanted to mention one fun little blooper that can be found in the special features, for those who might be planning to rent it. It shows the would-be rescuer bursting into the hotel room to find, not three perky bondagettes as the actor expects, but two (ungagged) perky bondagettes and one chubby male crew member wearing a Wisconsin sweatshirt and a color-coordinated ball gag. The best part is that one of the actresses is cracking the hell up, while the other has a glare on her face which translates roughly as, "This isn't funny at all." Me, I'm with the cracking-up one, but then, I'm easily amused sometimes. Cap at the link (not presented inline as a courtesy to serious putzophobes). |
| Raffish |
| http://bondageparade.com/dl/putz.jpg |
| Tuesday July 24 21:17:22 2007 Re: Hitchhiker blooper |
| > The best part is that one of the actresses is cracking the hell up, while the other has a glare on her face which translates roughly as, "This isn't funny at all."
---- Yeah, I'd noticed that, and it'd puzzled me why the other actors and actresses are laughing while she's scowling. I guess I'd translated her look to: "All this tomfoolery means that I'm stuck here tied up for fifteen minutes longer than if everyone would stick to the shooting schedule... And someone had bloody well soak that ballgag in Listerine before it's stuck in my mouth again!" |
| Kinky-napper |
| Tuesday July 24 21:35:19 2007 Re: Hanna Montana |
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> moxx of Balhoom wrote: > > Incidently was Hannah's double played by the same > actress? Or does she really have an identical cousin? Both Hannah Montana & her evil twin cousin are both played by Miley Cyrus. Although Miley is a brunette, she wears a blonde wig as Hannah Montana. Both were wearing that blonde wig in the scene. |
| Jason |
| Tuesday July 24 21:40:32 2007 Re: Big Love Scene |
| Stephen wrote:
> Perhaps it was a repeat, but what's the name of the > actress who was hog-tied with a wrap-around duct tape gag Is this a hoax? Did this happen? |
| doug |
| doug5759@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday July 24 21:43:39 2007 SNL On Demand |
| Under the TV Enertainment/E!/SNL Shorts in the On Demand section , there is a quick scene under the clip Biblical Benny. It's a scene where "Benny Hill" made a movie about the last days of Christ. It shows an SNL player tied to a cross with druids walking towards him. Their robes fall off & 2 bikini clad girls try to cover up. "Benny" breaks the cross, the Benny Hill music plays & he chases the girls. About 30 seconds later, one of the bikini clad girls is shown tied to the cross with "Benny Hill" & several more bikini clad girls chasing her. Very short scene, but a pleasent surprise. |
| Jason |
| Tuesday July 24 22:08:35 2007 Re: Big Love Scene |
| doug wrote:
> Stephen wrote: > > > Perhaps it was a repeat, but what's the name of the > > > actress who was hog-tied with a wrap-around duct > tape gag > > Is this a hoax? Did this happen? Yes. Scene occurred at about the 50 minute mark. But I don't normally watch this show and don't know the characters very well. Victim was typing in her office when two shady characters entered the room. Just as they approached her, they cut away to another scene. When they returned to this scene, they showed her hog-tied on the floor with a rescuer entering the room. She spoke through her gag something like "A little help here." Scene couldn't have lasted more than 4 or 5 seconds though. |
| Stephen |
| Tuesday July 24 22:22:32 2007 Re: Big Love Scene |
| Stephen wrote:
> doug wrote: > > > Stephen wrote: > > > > > Perhaps it was a repeat, but what's the name of > the > > > > > actress who was hog-tied with a wrap-around > duct > > tape gag The actress was Mary Kay Place, who last in bondage in Manny & Lo about ten years ago. Big Love repeats all week long on the various HBO stations. |
| Tuesday July 24 22:26:08 2007 Re: Big Love Scene |
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> The actress was Mary Kay Place, who last in bondage in > Manny & Lo about ten years ago. Big Love repeats all > week long on the various HBO stations. Yes, I just looked it up on the HBO website. The episode is "Good Guys and Bad Guys". The hog-tie is even mentioned in the episode synopsis. |
| Stephen |
| Tuesday July 24 23:12:57 2007 Re: I need to Understand |
| The Engineer wrote:
> I would take information from users who have experienced > the problem, of course. That is way too late! By the time someone has discovered the issue hundreds or thousands of other will have had their systems compromised. > > Like I'm unable to have others check it for me? > As I said above. Plus, I do not believe that the Engineer is on duty 24/7 |
| Tuesday July 24 23:15:59 2007 Re: I need to Understand |
| The Engineer wrote:
> > That would depend on what it would entail, but it's > unlikely. The various entities here aren't really very > worked up about it, except as it might slow things > down for users. > I don't think that it would entail much and I can see no reason why it would slow anything down except the posting of an image link. That is the only time that it would need to be checked. But, I can see no reason to do it. The right solution is for the visitors, if they care about their systems being compromised to either run in a sandbox (sandboxie is free) or to disable Java or to keep noting of value on their computers. |
| Tuesday July 24 23:57:59 2007 The envelope, please |
| And the Loosie Award for 1989 belatedly goes to..."Beware: Children at Play."
Always remember, kids: when angling for a Loosie Award, why bother with just letting the ropes hang slack or using four-inch-diameter manacles? Why use any restraints at all? Just show something like this for seven seconds or so, then pan up to the cleave gag, then show your damsel's hands tied behind -- loosely, of course -- in the very next shot. We in the Academy will not let your sheer directorial chutzpah go unrewarded. (Aw, I kid "Beware: Children at Play." It does get better, bondagewise at least.) |
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