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Monday July 30 00:26:51 2007
Re: Flash Gordon (Sci-Fi TV series)
Jay L wrote:

> the Yanks do have some scene heavy Sci-Fi series.
> Recall one with this "Flash type" guy, and his
> tight bodysuit wearing girlfriend would go to planets, or
> whatever the heck? and get captured by a
> villain like The Moderator just out to rule the world,

Here, almost 100% positive this the show Moxx, "Jason of Star Command"

Bodysuit gal likely "Susan Pratt"

Sid Haig does look like the bad guy too.
See this come on again and give her a browse. If I correct? Let know on the Database Corrections Page.
Thanks

Mr Powers:
Appeared aimed at younger crowd..
Don't expect any Witch Queen teaching submission eps. ;)
Jay L
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078631/
Monday July 30 01:34:11 2007
Re: Flash Gordon (Sci-Fi TV series)
Jay L wrote:

> Mr Powers:
> Appeared aimed at younger crowd..
> Don't expect any Witch Queen teaching submission eps. ;)

I'm not familiar with it, but I suspect you are right.

But that pic I posted from Flash Gordon ran in the Sunday funnies in newspapers that went into homes all across America back in 1941, which would have been read by the kiddies first thing, I imagine. It wasn't a niche market back then. Things were just wide open in that respect back in the 40s, where comics were concerned.
Pat Powers
Monday July 30 03:22:57 2007
Re: batman sequel
This post was deleted.

Poster: Gordian Knot
Reason: Off-topic political.
The Moderator
Monday July 30 06:20:47 2007
Re: Sci-Fi TV series
> I can't help feeling anyway that we put too much emphasis on Sci-fi to deliver scenes, it isn't the natural home of
ropes and gags - girls in peril maybe, but peril doesn't have to equal physical restraint.
>
> Think about it , how many scenes were there in 10 years of Stargate SG-1? Star Trek ran for 28 seasons over 5 incarnations and produced something like 700 episodes, but how many scenes are there? Not that many.

> At the end of the day these aren't cop/detective shows,they have no more reason to produce a DiD storyline than your average drama series.
----
Hmm, this is a possible discussion thread: Sci-Fi series that produced a lot of scenes per episodes?

Well, if one doesn't count superhero-comics derivatives (e.g., "The Amazing Spiderman" and "The Flash") as being "Sci-Fi", some candidates that come to mind:

Lexx
The X-Files
Forever Knight

Unfortunately, some Sci-Fi series that started off with nice B&g scenes didn't last more than one season:
* Jake 2.0
* Special Unit 2
Kinky-napper
Monday July 30 06:21:58 2007
I know who killed me
have 2 screens. Mail me when u want it. Don't know how i can post it here in the message. sorry
Barnes
Barnes1000@t-online.de
Monday July 30 07:27:33 2007
Re: Sci-Fi TV series
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Well, if one doesn't count superhero-comics derivatives
> (e.g., "The Amazing Spiderman" and "The
> Flash") as being "Sci-Fi", some candidates
> that come to mind:
>
> Lexx
> The X-Files
> Forever Knight
>
X-Files & Forever Knight also fall into the cop/detective show genre, which probably accounts more for the scenes than the sci-fi element.
Ditto for the superhero shows.
LV
Monday July 30 07:43:36 2007
Re: Sci-Fi TV series
Kinky-napper wrote:

> ----
> Hmm, this is a possible discussion thread: Sci-Fi series
> that produced a lot of scenes per episodes?
>
> Well, if one doesn't count superhero-comics derivatives
> (e.g., "The Amazing Spiderman" and "The
> Flash") as being "Sci-Fi", some candidates
> that come to mind:
>
> Lexx
> The X-Files
> Forever Knight
>
> Unfortunately, some Sci-Fi series that started off with
> nice B&g scenes didn't last more than one season:
> * Jake 2.0
* Special Unit 2

Well there are exceptions to every rule, though I would differentiate here between 'outer-space' sci-fi which was what i was refering to and shows like the X-files.

Although most people classify X-files as a sci-fi show it was really a hybrid horror/Sci-fi/fantasy series.
Thinking back over the scenes it produced the majority were in episodes that had a horror motif, be it cannabalistic inbred mutants, werwolves or psychopaths with talking tattoos.
i can only think of one sci-fi orientated episode which had a scene, that was in season 2 when Scully was bound and gagged in the boot of a car before being handed over to aliens (an episode which i believe was written around Gillian Anderson's real life pregnanacy) If there were more please correct me

Similarly shows like Highlander, Jake 2.0 and The Pretender are really Fantasy (as is The Avengers), detective/adventure stories with a twist and as such more likely to produce scenes of restraint. See also Knight Rider, Automan, and countless others.

And forever Knight falls into the same camp as Buffy, Angel and Charmed as a supernatural (or Horror-lite) show. Again a genre that lends itself well to Damsels in distress

Lexx though I agree was pretty exceptional, as indeed was Britian's Blakes 7, and the series Farscape. All spacebound series that weren't afraid to feature ladies in restraint.
Maybe I'm being pedantic here but i don't feel as a whole that people running around alien palenets is a premise that lends itself to traditional damsel in distress scenes, alien villians seem far more likely to be armed with a statis field or paralysis gun than ropes and gags, at least in my expereience

And Jay L - I've heard of Jason of Star Command, it was shown in the UK on ITV in the early 80s, but i can't recall any scenes, not to say there weren't any just none that spring to mind. Are you saying it was more productive than i remember? I shall check the DB forthwith


moxx of Balhoom
Monday July 30 08:23:21 2007
Reminder
Just remember, to One Of Us, DiD means "lady bound and gagged" to the outside, in means lady saying "Woe is me, what do I do.

Just like ritish and american english, where words like "pissed" and "rubber" mean two different things
Historian
historian64@hotmail.com
Monday July 30 08:53:48 2007
Re: Sci-Fi TV series
moxx of Balhoom wrote:

And Jay L - I've heard of Jason of Star Command, it was
shown in the UK on ITV in the early 80s, but i can't
recall any scenes

No gags/Jason UBER-PUTZARAMA = Forget it unless you're seriously desperate
Monday July 30 09:38:47 2007
VAN's FiCTiON is Updated!
Good Morning Brian'skteers!! The Epilogue of "Escape From PelluciGor" is now posted. Enjoy!

VAN's FiCTiON will now experience a brief hiatus while I work on a NEW story for DAMSELS UNDER GLASS.
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/vf-new-banner.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Monday July 30 09:43:36 2007
Re: Reminder
Historian wrote:

> Just remember, to One Of Us, DiD means "lady bound
> and gagged" to the outside, in means lady saying
> "Woe is me, what do I do.

Exactly, and I'm sure that's what actresses mean when they say they don't want to play one. In fact, our choice of that phrase is unfortunate. I'd prefer "damsel in restraint", and not just because it happens to have my initials.

>
> Just like ritish and american english, where words like
> "pissed" and "rubber" mean two
> different things

Well, we do say "pissed off" to mean annoyed or bored, and so did GI's in the UK during WW2. A USAAF Tiger Moth (!) based in East Anglia in 1944 bore the name "El Pisstopho Jr."

"Tossing" has a meaning in the UK and Commonwealth that apparently hadn't occurred to the creators of Flash Gordon. :-)
Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Monday July 30 11:06:30 2007
Duct Tape at the Movies!
I just found a really funny site, which belongs to the "Duct Tape Guys", two men who do almost ANYTHING out of duct tape - clothes, tools, bags etc.

They have an "At The Movies" section, a huge database of movies where duct tape appears. The entries contain a lot of duct-taped DiD scenes, as well as many putz scenes, and some non-bondage scenes (such as Nick Nolte using duct tape to seal up the edges of some old lab equipment in "The Hulk" - instead of duct taping Jennifer Connelly's mouth...).

Check it out. It's pretty funny. The DiD scenes are usually marked with a red circle, which means "Evil/Bad Use Of Duct Tape", while non-bondage ones are marked with a green one ("Good Use").

I loved the comment on Drew Barrymore's gag scene in "Charlie's Angels", where she gets a silver tape gag with lips drawn on it: "Hey, he could have used the red duct tape and skipped the lipstick!"

However, the Duct Tape Guys hate it when duct tape is used on bondage scenes: "Gagging and tying up: probably the most common use for duct tape in movies! Let's all work to get this changed..."

-----------------

"Why is Duct Tape like The Force? It has a bright side and a dark side!"

-----------------
This is what Abel
http://www.ducttapeguys.com/atmovies/index.html
Monday July 30 12:44:17 2007
Re: Duct Tape at the Movies!
This is what Abel wrote:
>
> "Why is Duct Tape like The Force? It has a bright side and a dark side!"

And it binds the Universe together. (Well, our theatre at least.)
-----------------

Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Monday July 30 15:16:13 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
I'll admit that for a long time bondage in Sci-fi series was rare, but that has changed. It's still nto a commonplace, but when it's good, it tends to be VERY good.

And I'll say that if you include fantasy of the sword and sorcery sort as a subgenre of science fiction -- and that's the way it's shelved in most bookstores, so I think you can reasonably do so -- then you have to admit that science fiction has been productive of scenes. I mean, Deathstalker, Amazon Queen and a host of lesser works have all been VERY productive indeed.

The reason SF tends to be VERY good when it's good is that it gives us more original bondage scenes than any other genre. Frex, take the giant stocks in Star Slammers (see below). Very imaginative, and this for a hinky B-grade Skinamax SF comedy. Take the weird floating slabs that prisoners are secured to (including Zev) in Lexx. Take the weird bondage cuffs and collars that showed up in Farscape. Take the strange cuffs, the electro-bra and, well, a lot of stuff from Caged Heat 3000, a futuristic prison movie. Take the brank and chastity belt set from Sleeping Dogs and just about every other movie Lloyd Simandl has made since then.

All very imaginative. All very nice.

SF does miss out on occasion --frex, in all of the Star Trek episode in the various series that have included Orion slave girls, not one of them has involved an Orion slave girl in bondage.

But the thing is, SF offers the very best options for cool, imaginative, kinky bondage imagery in mainstream films, because it's set in imaginary societies that don't exist so you can make up your own rules about how prisoners/captives/slavegirls are bound and treated.

It's not coincidence that the most productive series of novels ever was set in the sword and sorcery subgenre of science fiction -- John Norman's Gor novels. He knew what he was doing.
http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/starslammer.jpg
Pat Powers
Monday July 30 17:07:08 2007
Re: Scene Identity
G-MaN wrote:

> Scarlet Pimpernel - A Good Name

Thanks, I’ve been transferring all my VHS tapes to DVD and my brain is getting tired.
J Par
Monday July 30 18:08:19 2007
Re: (Sci-Fi TV series) - Jason StarCommand
Pat Powers wrote:

> Jay L
> I'm not familiar with it


Oh wow! Either I just stumped the board Sci-Fi expert with a US show,
or I'm recalling this incorrectly?
Jay L
Monday July 30 18:27:34 2007
Re: Sci-Fi TV series
moxx of Balhoom wrote:

> And Jay L - I've heard of Jason of Star Command, it was
> shown in the UK on ITV in the early 80s, but i can't
> recall any scenes


I'm pretty sure the leads ended up in stocks, and bound in some of these eps. They were rescued by the pocket robot and his retarded music

Another poster recalling this show re: **** "The Moderator Guy" never got his goons to frisk these two ****
Believes "Sid Haig" did figure out about (Wicky- The Pocket Robot?) and captured it. He apparently flying and pegged with a laser from a spaceship. leaving the leads to escape by themselves

I'm just trying to confirm for DB entries.
Not having luck due to the board Sci-Fi expert unable to recall it
Jay L
Monday July 30 18:49:21 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
> But the thing is, SF offers the very best options for cool, imaginative, kinky bondage imagery in mainstream films, because it's set in imaginary societies that don't exist so you can make up your own rules about how prisoners/captives/slavegirls are bound and treated.
-----
And (minus the cool, imaginative, kinky bondage imagery), the concept and execution of the "imaginary societies" idea made "Twilight Zone" arguably to be the best Sci-Fi series of all-time.

If a "Twilight Zone" concept was first conceived of today and was on a cable channel, possible episodes could be:

* The viewer is taken to a place where the women are kept in chains and bit-gags, flimsy clothing, and receive corporal punishment from their masters. Just when one assumes this is some sort of *perverted* Gorean culture, the twist when two have their bit-gags removed is that female "slaves" are actually the political/business leaders.

* A kidnapped woman engages in a "The Collector" battle of wits with her captor: The episode opens with her B&g, she frees herself, she escapes, after a chase she's caught, B&g'd again in an even stricter tie, but by the end of the show has managed to free herself and escape to freedom. But the last shot reveals that she's still B&g'd to her bed -- it's all been a captive's dream (a sort of "Occurrence at Owl's Creek Bridge").
Kinky-napper
Monday July 30 19:03:33 2007
Re: Hairspray
> Sorry, but I have to ask: Is she gagged?
> Because, God help me, Amanda Bynes gagged would pretty
> much make my year.

How about Rose Byrne in Damages? Character looks like a potential DinD
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/Movies/Actors3/Byrne_SS00896741_150x200.jpg
http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0914387/
Monday July 30 19:47:22 2007
Re: (Sci-Fi TV series) - Jason StarCommand
Jay L wrote:

> Pat Powers wrote:
>
> > Jay L
> > I'm not familiar with it
>
>
> Oh wow! Either I just stumped the board Sci-Fi expert
> with a US show,
> or I'm recalling this incorrectly?


AHEM...
I recall it! I don't remember who the lead chickie was but she was Very hot and she did have a scene standing with her hands in stocks next to the putz. The lil pocket robot shot the lock with a "lazer" beam. I don't recall any other scenes but boy would I have liked to see her tied up more.

going off to check the IMDB

Snowcat
Monday July 30 20:32:11 2007
Lohan
Who has seen this movie? I hear Lohan is kidnapped and tied twice in the movie, this true?
47
Monday July 30 22:24:02 2007
Re: Sci-fi bondage
Kinky-napper wrote:


> And (minus the cool, imaginative, kinky bondage imagery),
> the concept and execution of the "imaginary
> societies" idea made "Twilight Zone"
> arguably to be the best Sci-Fi series of all-time.

I prefer "The Outer Limits" myself, if only for that incredible opening, but also because it had some incredible stories, like 'Demon with a Glas Hand.' Twilight Zone had way too many ghost stories disguised as SF.


> * The viewer is taken to a place where the women are kept
> in chains and bit-gags, flimsy clothing, and receive
> corporal punishment from their masters. Just when one
> assumes this is some sort of *perverted* Gorean culture,
> the twist when two have their bit-gags removed is that
> female "slaves" are actually the political/business leaders.

Not to spoil anything, but that's already been done, in a way. One of the eps of Star Trek revealed that the Orion Slave Girls actually controlled their society through the use of pheremones. Of course, it would have been extremely powerful and more of a surprise if they'd done it while treating the Orion slave girls as you suggest. But the Star Trek franchise has always been about the weakest series on TV in terms of bondage.

Pat Powers
Monday July 30 22:26:38 2007
Re: (Sci-Fi TV series) - Jason StarCommand
Jay L wrote:

> Pat Powers wrote:
>
> > Jay L
> > I'm not familiar with it
>
>
> Oh wow! Either I just stumped the board Sci-Fi expert
> with a US show,
> or I'm recalling this incorrectly?

You're recalling correctly about Jason of Star Command, but I didn't know I was the board SF expert. As I recall, I didn't even know about the Canadian Nebula Rangers with the Incredible Floating Dildo Torture Device and the Handcuff Guns until you pointed it out.

Pat Powers
Monday July 30 22:30:27 2007
Re: Hairspray
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> How about Rose Byrne in Damages? Character looks like a
> potential DinD
> http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0914387/

Holy underpants! Wow! I don't know who Rose Byrne is, but she just shot to 2nd on my list of potential DiD's (Mandy Moore, in all her wholesome cuteness, remains on top). Thanks for the pic.

Ice Cream Man

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