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Saturday June 02 00:00:53 2007
Re: question about update
Wondering wrote:

> Who's the tape gagged damsel on the bottom row of
> Raffish's update collage?

That's actress Sophie Lawrence, appearing on an episode of the terrifically weird UK-meets-Japan game show "Banzai." Players were allowed to bet on how many rings it would take for her to get herself untaped from a chair and answer a phone. Fun stuff.
Raffish
Saturday June 02 00:31:44 2007
Re: books with bondage in them
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> Hadji wrote:
> > Three other Spenser novels feature bound and gagged
> > damsels: "The Godwulf Manuscript",
> > "Walking Shadow", and "Crimson
> Joy".

> I think "Sudden Mischief" qualifies as well, if
> that's the one I'm thinking of where the actor dies
> onstage.

This sounds a lot like the plot of "Walking Shadow"; I've read the entire Spenser series, and vaguely recall that in this Spenser novel, an actor is killed onstage.
The female supporting character who is bound and gagged actually put herself in bondage; she is psychologically unbalanced and tried to evince attention and sympathy from other people by pretending to be kidnapped.
Hadji
Saturday June 02 01:46:30 2007
Re: Raffish DidClips updated
Alan Smithee wrote:

> WMD wrote:
>
> > BTW, is the scene over? At the end of part 3, she
> is
> > still tied up. Is this going on until next week?

Today was part 3?? I missed yesterday's episode (Thursday) but caught today's (Friday). I didn't hear anything about the show till Thursday. You mean it actually started Wednesday? What happened on Wednesday's episode? (we got a pretty good re-cap on yesterday's episode).
JP
jPFEIF@AOL.COM
Saturday June 02 02:30:43 2007
Need I.D. help
Found these on an old compilation tape, shouldn't be too hard to ID these. They don't appear to be too obscure.
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/extras/cap01.jpg
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/extras/cap02.jpg
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/extras/cap03.jpg
Anubis
http://anuvids.com
Saturday June 02 03:33:32 2007
ID scenes
The middle photo is Tamara Braun from General Hospital.
anon22
Saturday June 02 03:38:04 2007
Re: Need I.D. help
Anubis wrote:

> Found these on an old compilation tape, shouldn't be too
> hard to ID these. They don't appear to be too obscure.

The 3rd scene is Paige Turco, "The Agency"

Record number: 8701

Title: The Agency
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Paige Turco

Description: Episode: "Our Man In Korea" (2.21)

At the very end of the episode, Paige is grabbed by a pair of Asians while on her way to the Agency. She is forced at gunpoint to the trunk of a car, her wrists are bound behind her back and she's duct-tape gagged on-screen. Short scene.
PassDaTape
Saturday June 02 03:39:32 2007
Re: "Burn Notice" on USA Network
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Rocky wrote:
>
> > Debra needs another scene, cause that one w/ her
> tied to
> > a radiator just doesn't do it for me. I hate that
> lil strip of tape!
>
> Wow. That scene didn't do it for you? I'm surprised. I
> think it's one of the more underated scenes. Hot damsel,
> great outfit (red sweater, black boots, black hose), feet
> and hands tied with rope, and gagged with gaffer's tape
> that sticky and shows lip impressions. Plus, the handgag
> closeup, ungagging and regagging in extreme closeups. I
> thought that tape gag was standard length.
>
> Plus, the chit chat with the bad guy culminating with
> "I think I like her better with her mouth shut"
> and the gorgeous blonde reapplies the tape.


I've always been a realist when it comes to bondage. I need to believe the bondage is inescapable (spelling?), the gag effective from keeping the damsel from free speech. Now, I do love the lips showing, but rarely does it make the gag effective. I've always been one for the "duct tape wrapped around the head" gag. And I need struggling and lots of mmmphing. I want to see my damsels fighting to get free, crying out for someone to come to their rescue. By the way guys (and hopefully at least a couple gals), I'm relatively new here, hi, I'm Rocky.
Saturday June 02 03:54:45 2007
Re: Paula Patton
Ice Cream Man wrote:

> Some scenes make great vidcaps but poor vidclips, while
> others make good vidclips but poor vidcaps.

That's an excellent insight. I've understood this on a subconscious level for a long time, but never put it into words.

> 1) Good scene, bad vidcaps: not many in this category;
> Fair Game (1985 Australian version) comes to mind.

I think the rarity of this category has to do with the fact that if a director puts enough thought into it to have a good scene, he or she will come up with some visually appealing imagery as a matter of course. The ones I can come up with most easily: Bridget Fonda's scene in "Single White Female" with that desperate kiss with Jennifer Jason Leigh while bound, or Tammie Hainums' writhing torso in "The Gigolo" ep of "Women: Stories of Passion" -- also make good vidcaps.

Closest thing I can come up with as winners are Esther Williams' passionate kiss and clench with her captor in "Jupiter's Darling" and Bobbie Phillips' aggressive smooching on her captor in Cheyenne. Both are feeble bondage scenes (hand roped in front in each case) but within the dramatic context of their scenes are quite powerful.

> 2) Bad scene, good vidcaps: usually very brief scenes
> with an especially beautiful damsel or scenes with not
> much struggling by the damsel; Big Trouble in Little
> China with Suzee Pai, Nicolette Krebitz in Desperate
> Measures or Jacqueline Collen's lengthy scene in
> "Sinbad" fit this category for me.

Top honors for me would be the hot, naked blonde tied very, very securely to a chair, with her legs bound wide open and wearing a cleave gag ... for about one second of screen time. Essentially, the scene WAS a screen cap. Same deal with Tammie Clatterbuck naked, bound and gagged in "The Borrower" for a second or two. In both cases, the damsel didn't so much as budge an inch.

Another would be "Last Innocent Man" with a truly great chair tie with the damsel's head bound so that she faces almost straight up, her neck stretched for her captor's knife. In conjunction with the gag, a really powerful image, but that was about all there was to the scene ... a really powerful image.

> 3) Bad scene, bad vidcaps: these are sometimes almost
> non-scenes, like the super-quick one in Nurse Betty or
> scenes that are just too gruesome, such as the scene from
> Funny Games.

As a general rule, a scene where the director screws up the drama will also have screwed up bondage, because it means the director is butt-ignorant or just doesn't care, often both. Most loosies would fall in this category.

> 4) Good scene, good vidcaps: these scenes are good in
> motion or in freeze frames; The Bone Collector with
> Olivia Birkelund and Jennifer O'Dell's scene from the
> "Into the Fire" episode of "Lost
> World" come to mind.

A natural pairing. The director thinks out what he or she wants from the scene, both visually and dramatically, and gets it. I've already cited a couple of examples.

Pat Powers
Saturday June 02 03:58:52 2007
Re: Paula Patton
Forgot to note that the hot, naked blonde tied to a chair with her legs bound wide open for about a second is from "Suite 16."
Pat Powers
Saturday June 02 08:25:23 2007
Level 9
A scene flew in under the radar last night on Scifi. This is a series with a date of 2000, although I have never seen it. Anyhow it's running on Scifi Friday nights, 7-8 pm EDS. The pilot had this woman in a witness protection program kidnapped by the bad guys. She spent most of the show hands(behind back) and feet duck taped and gagged with tape (rather loosely, but wrapped around head). Multiple scenes. That's all I've got and the show does not repeat. I have not checked the data base, but I will. Anybody heard of this show? The leading lady is Kate Hodge, if that helps.

Southbound
southbound
Saturday June 02 10:57:23 2007
Nancy Drew
Caught a promo for whatever the new 'Nany Drew' thing is.

Looked like a Family Channel 'tween' oriented show.

If there is anything of interest to us, sure wasn't shown in the promo.
Jacot
Saturday June 02 11:05:05 2007
Re: Level 9
southbound wrote:

> A scene flew in under the radar last night on Scifi.
> This is a series with a date of 2000, although I have
> never seen it. Anyhow it's running on Scifi Friday
> nights, 7-8 pm EDS. The pilot had this woman in a witness
> protection program kidnapped by the bad guys. She spent
> most of the show hands(behind back) and feet duck taped
> and gagged with tape (rather loosely, but wrapped around
> head). Multiple scenes. That's all I've got and the show
> does not repeat. I have not checked the data base, but I
> will. Anybody heard of this show? The leading lady is
> Kate Hodge, if that helps.

Southbound

Record number: 3300

Title: Level 9
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Leslie Hope

Description: Episode: "Mail Call" (1.1)

In the start of the episode is snatched, carted through a tunnel (while taped up) and then she spends the rest of it sitting on the floor with her hands bound behind her and her feet in front and she has a tape gag wrapped around her head (one time only). There are plenty of close ups of her face (ones the feet and hands are hard to come by). She is joined by a guy in the end which helps her to escape. She was doing some yard work before is was grabbed so she isn't the cleanest of damsels.

Thanks. Sorry I missed it because that was a great scene. I'm sure it will repeat again.

I only remember seeing the pilot episode before Level 9 was yanked, but there are apparently 13 episodes that were made.

I posted last year that SciFi had bought the rights to certain shows from UPN. Star Trek: Enterprise, Level 9, Threshold, and Special Unit 2 have already aired. Keep an eye out for Wolf Lake (ep. "Tastes Like Chicken") and All Souls (ep. "One Step Closer to Roger") on SciFi which are two other series they purchased from UPN.
MadFish
Saturday June 02 12:09:50 2007
Re: Need I.D. help
Anubis wrote:

> Found these on an old compilation tape, shouldn't be too
> hard to ID these. They don't appear to be too obscure.

First one is:

Record number: 1729

Title: Misbegotten (1997)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Jo Bates, Lysette Anthony

Description: A psycho who has donated sperm is determined to find out who the mother is. He pretends he wants to take out the lovely Dr. Rory Sorenson (Bates), but all he wants is the mother's address.

The good doctor has her wrists bound in front and is tightly cleavegagged. The bad guy threatens her with a large automatic pistol. She tries to make a run for it, but comes to a violent, unhappy end.

The sequence comes in around the 33' mark (without commercials).

[snipped second scene]

Brian R
Saturday June 02 13:31:19 2007
scene ID's
Thanks to all who helped ID those three scenes for me. I just have one more to go on that tape.
http://www.bindher.com/vidsdids/extras/cap04.jpg
Anubis
http://anuvids.com
Saturday June 02 14:05:12 2007
The Worst Good News EVER
You must be scratching your head now. How can good news be bad? Let me explain...

A few days ago, I was looking at the "Gagged and Bound" list on IMDb Keyword Analyzer, to see how many of these exist in Brian's database. Of course, the keyword isn't "Gagged and Bound Women", and so several of these movies are putz-fests (e.g. Hoot, The DaVinci Code).

Suddenly, I bumped into a movie called "Generator". It will be released on USA on September 20. One of its keywords is "Gagged and Bound", but its Plot Outline does not clarify if the person who gets the bonds is a male or a female.

I did a Google search on the movie and its director, Jason D' Amico, to find out more info. And then, as Marv from Sin City would say, "it hits me like a kick in the nuts"...

I found Jason's profile on MySpace. And, hell, he has EXACTLY the same interests as me! It's like I wrote that page. Every single word of it made me feel like he's my alter ego or something...

My heart broke. For a second, I wanted to jump out of the window. I thought I shouldn't exist anymore. For years, I've been trying to find a reason to live, while battling various psychological problems. And now THIS?! Why? Why does this happen to me? Why do I have to destroy my dreams, because someone may have already fullfilled them? I mean, I always wanted to be a filmmaker, but now that HE is, I'm too late. If only I wasn't addicted to damsels in distress...

Jason recently deleted his MySpace profile. Now, we have to wait until September 20. I know this sounds crazy, but I hope there is a putz in it. If there is one, I shall rest.
This is what Abel
Saturday June 02 15:13:56 2007
Re: scene ID's
Anubis wrote:

> Thanks to all who helped ID those three scenes for me. I
> just have one more to go on that tape.

Record number: 7046

Title: The Gene Autry Show
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Eilene Janssen

Description: Episode: "Ghost Mountain" (3.3)

Young Wilma (Janssen) has a crush on Gene Autry, so she wants to make a big impression. She decides to track down a gang of villians who are masquerading as ghostly Conquistadors to frighten the locals away from their thieving activities.

Wilma is captured by the thugs (Clayton Moore (!), John Doucette, et al), tied tightly to a chair with hands behind and detective gagged with a thick towel, all on screen. Plenty of close-ups and mid-range shots as Gene, Pat and Wilma's brother come to rescue and duke it out with the owlhoots. No mmmphing, but plenty of reaction shots.

Action starts near the 22 minute mark and continues for the next four or five minutes.
PAV
Saturday June 02 15:15:43 2007
hostel 2
appently Rachel Stevens is in hostel 2 does any one know if she has a good gag sceen in it
david
lance.pomerance@btinternet.com
Saturday June 02 16:05:26 2007
Re: GIRL FROM B.I.K.I.N.I
joe wrote:

> It's going to be on Cinemax in a few days.
>
> Can someone take a look even though these movies rarely
> deliever?...

...Believe it or no, this Skinimax opus *does* deliver in a very enjoyable scene that pops up just short of 75 minutes in and involves the *very* buxom Rebecca Love. The writer did some homework and/or is one of *us* because the scenario really shows some bondage imagination. I don't have time to elaborate right now, but if no one beats me to it, I'll submit a DB entry before this day is done.
Overlooker
Saturday June 02 18:36:04 2007
Re: Nancy Drew
Jacot wrote:

> Caught a promo for whatever the new 'Nany Drew' thing is.
>
> Looked like a Family Channel 'tween' oriented show.
> If there is anything of interest to us, sure wasn't shown
> in the promo.

I took a quick scan through the juvenile novelization of the movie at the local Barnes & Ignoble. There's a scene near the end where Nancy is "captured" by the villains and they discuss whether or not they ought to kill her, and how, but wasn't clear exactly how it will play on the screen. There didn't seem to be any grabbing and holding, much less hand-gagging and binding, and the tone was more about Nancy being a brave wise-ass than being in jeopardy. The book was written at about the third grade level (I'm talkin' *really* juvenile), and I didn't read it too closely. Anyhoo... looks like we'll have to wait for the *next* Nancy Drew movie, which supposedly is already in development.
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/

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