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Saturday October 01 00:04:17 2005
Go Slow Here Snowcat
Snowcat wrote:

> I also got blasted last week for my lack of
> "Leadership"

Apologise here that you took offence,
"Acid" wasn't the intent, nor singling you out.
Meant humourously at,
Wow "the cynical" Brian R involved in the play for abit. Even with "Jenn Garner knocked up"
Why put "in dressing room", "crowd", "grit" and "leadership -dig up scenes to set the tone" in the reply.

But looking back, see how appears "Blasting"
Should have put more than one ";)" in there
Jay L
Saturday October 01 00:52:43 2005
Re: Into the Blue another view


There were some abusive deleted posts from people who
couldn't accept that the scene wasn't what they hoped.

No the scene is great. And I was the so called poster. Sorry but I like good gags over thin cleave gags that have no real effect any day ,but hey that is just my opinion. PS I never had any doubt it would be a good scene even after the initial report.
Moi
Saturday October 01 01:00:11 2005
Re: Threshold
Tapemaster wrote:

> So she gets captured and handgagged at the 17 minute mark
> and works her gag off at the 44 minute mark. Is there
> footage of her bound and gagged between those two points?

To answer my own question, yes there is. Also, the name of the actress is Christie Lynn Smith.


Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Saturday October 01 01:08:54 2005
Re: Threshold
AsbestosFilter wrote:

> Not a Guest wrote:
>
> > Here's a hint for people wanting to get this scene
> (or
> > any other scene, for that matter): I didn't tape it,
> I'm
> > just going to get it off bittorrent later. Why?
> Because
>
> Torrents are watched by MPAA and you can get nasty
> letters if you're in the USA.
> alt.binaries.hdtv on the other hand... Only problem is
> that most of the stuff on there isn't 350mb per episode,
> but 1.5 gig or bigger (like up to 4.5) Much better
> quality of course, which is never a bad thing.
> BTW, link goes to a 720p sample picture. That is native
> resolution for the movie, it isn't zoomed in or a still
> or anything (and yes, it kicks ass)
> http://www.geocities.com/asbestosfilter/720pSample.jpg

I am aware of the whole MPAA threat, sorry, I should've mentioned that in my original post. It is always a bit of a concern for Americans and those in countries with similar anti-piracy and intellectual property laws.

I'm from Canada and as of right now we can download music, movies etc. with relative impunity. However, from what I've seen in the news and elsewhere, it's only a matter of time before we adopt similar laws to those in the U.S. that will give big-business interest groups (such as the RIAA and MPAA) the ability to pursue these 'evildoers'.

Thanks for the link to the HD content. Downloading multiple-gig files is about as pleasent as pulling teeth, even for those with faster connections. Still, the payoff is often worth it.

Not a Guest
Saturday October 01 01:27:17 2005
Re: Into the Blue another view
Snowcat wrote:

> Major John wrote:
>
> > I reported same about a week ago, and everyone
> 'climbed
> > all over me' - LAST of the movie alerts for me -

> I also got blasted last week for my lack of
> "Leadership"
> so this is the last time you will ever hear from
> "Snowcat" on this board...
>
> IF I ever again post alerts, Dbase entries, or anything
> else it will be done anonymously wit>

While I appreciate the help you guys provide, you know,
grow some skin or something.

Seriously, how much credence do you give to internet
critics? Don't sob about it, just blow em off.


Brian R
Saturday October 01 02:52:58 2005
Numbers
Who directed this? The ending of the episode made no sense (as far as the bondage scene goes.) WHY in the world would the kidnappers UN-gag the mom and daughter when they locked them in the shed (or whatever it was) after having them gagged earlier. It certainly didn't take much for the FBI agents to hear them!

Can you imagine the villains?

"What shall we do with them boss?"
"Take them outside and lock them in that shed. Keep them bound, but make sure that you take their gags off so that the FBI can more easily hear them when they come to the rescue."

RIDICULOUS!


From the point of view of the plot, the FBI agents STILL could have heard them if they were making gag noises. Also, it would have been more dramatic:
"Where are they?"
"mmmmph, mmmmph"
"Hey, you guys be quiet, I think I heard something."
"mmmmph, mmmmph"
"Yes, I definitely heard something. Over there."
"Mmmmph, Mmmmph"
"They're in there, let's get that door open!"
"MMMMPH, MMMMPH!"
(door opens)
"MMMMPH, MMMMPH!"
Anyway, that's how it SHOULD have been.

It is absolutely absurd how television shows and movies pride themselves on "realism" and then go ahead and film nonsense like this.

By the way, the mother ("Diana Rausch") was played by Jennifer Siebel and the daughter ("Julia Rausch") was played by Madison Davenport. The episode is titled "Bettor or Worse".
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Saturday October 01 04:18:12 2005
Re: Numbers
Tapemaster wrote:

> It is absolutely absurd how television shows and movies
> pride themselves on "realism" and then go ahead
> and film nonsense like this.

This is the show that found the home of a serial killer by plotting the points of 6 crime scenes.
Need I say more? :)
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps
Saturday October 01 06:38:46 2005
Re: Into the Blue another view
>>>>Major John wrote:
>>>>>I reported same about a week ago, and everyone 'climbed
>>>all over me' - LAST of the movie alerts for me -<<<<

I got your back John. First of all, all you did was offer your honest opinion about the scene, which, last time I checked, you were free to do... even in Canada<g>. You were trying to be helpful, and even if a person disagreed with you, so what? In addition, you have a FREE web site, where you offer up a weekly selection of FREE video clips. Not many people understand just how much time, effort, and money that costs.

Don't let the jerks get you down. I've come to realize a certain percentage of people are simply pure assholes, just like a number of folks are really outstanding human beings. The rest of us fall somewhere in the middle I guess.

Allow me to say thank you for the preview, and thank you for all the great clips you provide.



Vince Grey "The Greyman"
Saturday October 01 08:17:51 2005
Re: Threshold
Tapemaster wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > at the :44 mark the girl was able to work her tight
> OTM
> > gag down enough to yell at her captor. his
> response?
> > quickly moving over to her to replace and tighten
> her
> > gag! now its almost a cleave.
>
> So she gets captured and handgagged at the 17 minute mark
> and works her gag off at the 44 minute mark. Is there
> footage of her bound and gagged between those two points?

This is irrefutably one of the best damsel in distress scenes in recent television history. The damsel is wearing a snug camisole top and black brief panties, because she is doing her laundry, and all her clothes are in the washer or dryer. She is overpowered by an escaped mental patient, who clamps his hand over her mouth to silence her; in the next scene in which she appears, she is bound and gagged in her camisole top and briefs. Her gag is a cloth tied tightly across her mouth.
There are several inconsistencies with her gag. In one shot, it covers nearly one third of her face, and conceals her chin; in another scene, it covers only her lips, and leaves her chin visible.
She is bound and gagged for a prolonged period of time. The escaped mental patient leaves her bound and gagged, and the actual villain discovers her. There is a brief scene where he removes her gag, and then reties it between her teeth, so it becomes a cleave gag. All the while, she is wearing the camisole top and briefs.
She is rescued by the heroes, that clandestine government agency. The female lead, Carla Gugino, removes her gag. I wonder whether the producers of the show had her bound and gagged while wearing the skimpy outfit so as to attract viewers.
Hadji
Saturday October 01 09:33:00 2005
DISPOSABLE ACTRESSES
While watching CBS last night and the two disposable actresses playing the b&g victims. By disposable I mean they're sole purpose on the show was to play the b&g victim. It's a role anyone could play since all you have to do is look suitably frightened. We see these unknowns all the time, mostly in tv series but occasionally in movies and someone always wants to know their names even though we never heard of them and will probably never hear of them again, like the sisters on CSI a week ago. My question is can anyone think of any of these disposable victims going on to fame and fortune on TV, movies or the soaps? Off the top of my head I can't think of anyone who got they're start this way. And I don't mean someone who had a guest starring role or a substantial part in a show I'm talking about someone whose sole purpose in the show was to be a DID, like the two women last night on CBS.
hallbird
Saturday October 01 10:17:15 2005
Re: Into the Blue another view
Brian R wrote:



> While I appreciate the help you guys provide, you know, grow some skin or something.

Seriously, how much credence do you give to internet critics? Don't sob about it, just blow em off.

Did you realize that Maker's Mark is actually higher proof than good Ole Dr. Daniels elixer?

After several of those magical shots and low priced 22 0z Yuengling drafts at my local happy hour...

S'probably not the best time to post about something that was basically innoculous but I read it when I had but one frayed nerve left.

sorry to sound like a lil be-atch


Snowcat
Saturday October 01 10:29:38 2005
Re: Threshold
all in all a pretty cool scene
:)
I just REALLY REALLY want to see Carla G tied and gagged.

Its too bad she's dead and won't get a scene in the next Sin City.

speaking of

Sin City was profitable enough to spin several sequels right?

Are there any big fans of the comic books out there that can give us some advanced notice.

be nice if it would get some hollywood types to try a movie from some other comics

Yes Ms Ziering..
well with how incredibly popular Sin City was...
we are doing a similiar movie based on the works of another genius...
Oh YES Its Guarenteed to make you a huge box office draw..

yes ... pronounced Will-ie as in Mrs Mays & Nelson
Snowcat
Saturday October 01 10:32:03 2005
Re: Threshold
Mr's
Mays & Nelson
*bangs head on keyboard*

Snowcat
Saturday October 01 11:33:46 2005
Disposable Actress
There's Lara Flynn Boyle on Sable. On the premiere episode of that series she played a kidnapped teenager who, as I recall, spent most of the episode bound and gagged. I don't think she had any lines or very few anyway.
Saturday October 01 11:33:50 2005
John Willie comics
> be nice if it would get some hollywood types to try a movie from some other comics

Yes Ms Ziering..
>well with how incredibly popular Sin City was... we are doing a similiar movie based on the works of another genius...

Oh YES Its Guarenteed to make you a huge box office draw..

yes ... pronounced Will-ie
----
Fortunately for us, "The Peils of Gwendoline" (1984) was a (fairly) big-budget movie. Granted, there was probably more emphasis on toplessness rather than bondage, but *I* didn't complain...
Kinky-napper
Saturday October 01 11:39:49 2005
Batgirl bound
Batgirl was tied up by the Penguin in this morning's episode of "The Batman." She was in costume, complete with cowl. She was NOT gagged.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Saturday October 01 12:31:38 2005
Re: John Willie comics
Kinky-napper wrote:
Fortunately for us, "The Peils of Gwendoline"
(1984) was a (fairly) big-budget movie. Granted, there
was probably more emphasis on toplessness rather than
bondage, but *I* didn't complain...

FYI - Gwendoline is on Monday's update - no time to edit out
any of the 'naughty bits', so you'll just have to
close your eyes for those.

Major John
Saturday October 01 12:48:11 2005
Re: DISPOSABLE ACTRESSES
hallbird wrote:

> My question is can anyone think of any
> of these disposable victims going on to fame and fortune
> on TV, movies or the soaps?

Dianne Kay on "Starsky and Hutch" before her days on "8 is enough"

oz
Saturday October 01 13:18:37 2005
Re: Into the Blue another view
Snowcat wrote:

> sorry to sound like a lil be-atch

I came off a little gruffer than intended. Put that down
to $7.50 Busch Stadium beers.

I meant to say something about doing your thing and not
worrying about too much about what people think about it.
Trust me, that's best. If you let them get under your
skin, it never ends.

Brian R
Saturday October 01 13:24:01 2005
Re: Numbers
Tapemaster wrote:

> Who directed this? The ending of the episode made no
> sense (as far as the bondage scene goes.) WHY in the
> world would the kidnappers UN-gag the mom and daughter
> when they locked them in the shed (or whatever it was)
> after having them gagged earlier. It certainly didn't
> take much for the FBI agents to hear them!

So did anything happen during the episode? I only did a high-speed scan of the recording and didn't see anything other than when they were rescued at the end.

Even if nothing did turn out for this show, it's certainly been an interesting couple of weeks with these crime dramas (CSI, SVU, Threshold, and next week NCIS) trying to one-up each other with gagged DiD scenes.
MadFish
Saturday October 01 13:39:41 2005
Re: DISPOSABLE ACTRESSES
oz wrote:

> Dianne Kay on "Starsky and Hutch" before her
> days on "8 is enough"

Wasn't there someone in a "Hardy Boys" episode?

gasface
Saturday October 01 14:04:10 2005
Re: DISPOSABLE ACTRESSES
gasface wrote:

> oz wrote:
>
> Wasn't there someone in a "Hardy Boys"
> episode?

Stepfanie Kramer was B&G in an episode. But she did have a small role with other lines after the rescue.

Another one would be Connie Nielsen in "Okavango." I think she appeared in a few episodes as a very minor character and had a nice B&G scene alongside Michelle Scarbelli.


Saturday October 01 15:07:14 2005
Wonder Woman Comic
Just curious if the recent Wonder Woman (issue #220, with the beautiful cover of WW being led by a cop with her hands cuffed behind her back) had any good handcuff scenes inside the issue? I'm not a big comic book fan but that issue was all sold out at two comic book shops I stopped at. Thanks for any help.
Viking
Saturday October 01 15:51:31 2005
Re: Into the Blue another view
Vince Grey "The Greyman" wrote:


> I got your back John.
> You were trying to be helpful,
you have a FREE
web site, where you offer up a weekly selection of FREE
> video clips. Not many people understand just how much
> time, effort, and money that costs.
> Allow me to say thank you.

Ditto from me Major, and well said and written Vince.





David Knight
http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com
Saturday October 01 16:48:50 2005
Re: Into the Blue another view
Major John wrote:
I reported same about a week ago, and everyone
'climbed all over me' - LAST of the movie alerts for me
_______________________
Snowcat wrote:
Don't feel too bad Maj
...
IF I ever again post alerts, Dbase entries, or anything
else it will be done anonymously without any name or identity that someone can ATTACK
_______________________

I remember years ago I used to post alerts
with links to JPGs on my site so people
could see what the scene looked like.
I stopped sometime back in 2003.
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx,net/bhuxref.htm
Saturday October 01 16:50:28 2005
Re: Into the Blue another view
http://bindherupx,net/bhuxref.htm
Correction:
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net/bhuxref.htm
Saturday October 01 17:33:40 2005
MEDIUM
I saw a preview of next Monday's episode of MEDIUM
(10 PM EST on NBC), which takes place in a mental
institution. It appears Patricia Arquette is tied
to a bed with leather four-point restraints.

Greg
gb9304@yahoo.com
http://greggerbits.tripod.com
Saturday October 01 17:57:40 2005
Bridget Fonda's gagged opinions
Hiya,

Was watching Dario Argento's "Suspiria" the other night on DVD and on the "making of" feature...and the direcotr of photography mentioned that he worked on "single white female" and when Bridget Fonda spent her time in the chair...they left her there for a long time between takes. Left her there tied and gagged. At one point the director mentioned the lighting reminded him of SUSPIRIA. At this point, Bridget starting squirming like she wanted to say something, but they didn't want to take the tape off her mouth. He gave her a pen and paper and she wrote "Suspiria? Why Suspiria?" and the guy responded "I was the DOP on Suspiria" Bridget asked that the tape be removed and when it was she blurted out that it was one of her favorite movies and one of the reasons she got into the cinema.
I should note, as he talks of this, they cut to a still of Bridget gagged from the movie.

LOL, funny how he's asked to recount an anecdote from the movie and he thinks up a fine memory of working around a bound and gagged Bridget Fonda.


We all love the scene...but don't you love it just a bit more now after hearing this? lol
William the Bloody
Saturday October 01 18:32:02 2005
Re: Lost
zinger wrote:

> To give credit where it is due, it must be said that MAV
> made a post about this scene - check back to Wednesday's
> posts, it is there.

Thanks z. Didnt want Mike D to "steal my thunder".

I wouldve liked Evangeline Lilly to be strung up by the wrists, but beggars cant be choosers. For those of you now following the storyline, there is a chance of more scenes next week, but probably not with Lilly. Michelle Rodriguez was shown getting thrown into a pit in next week's preview. "The Others" may also have plans for the other female cast members, since the end of the last episode showed a guy with his arms tied behind with a wood stick.
http://www.allcelebrity.it/Rodriguez/05.jpg
MAV
Saturday October 01 19:29:02 2005
Re: Wonder Woman Comic
Viking wrote:

> Just curious if the recent Wonder Woman (issue #220, with
> the beautiful cover of WW being led by a cop with her
> hands cuffed behind her back) had any good handcuff
> scenes inside the issue?

Nah. The cover was a tease. Nothing like that happened in the issue. HOWEVER....in the latest Adventures of Superman (#644) Zatanna gets briefly wrapped with a roll of ribbon (arms to sides) and gagged with said ribbon. Very brief.

Cohen
Saturday October 01 20:00:00 2005
A little update
Following a harrowing few weeks, I've posted a tentative small update at my celebfake site on Whitelord.

A certain song, a hit for Kim Carnes, may never sound the same to quite a few people after this.... :-)
Mad Dan
http://whitelord.ath.cx/dansdidnts
Saturday October 01 20:53:04 2005
Numbers
Here is a pic I made of the polaroid from last night's Numbers. This is pretty much all there was to see, aside from the end where they are found, gags removed. Boo... hiss!!!!!!!!
Wavy
verywavy@yahoo.com
http://www.slumberville.com/temp/numbers.jpg
Saturday October 01 22:04:49 2005
Re: Numbers
MadFish wrote:

> So did anything happen during the episode? I only did a
> high-speed scan of the recording and didn't see anything
> other than when they were rescued at the end.

There are 2 scenes of the FBI agents looking at polaroid pictures of the mom and daughter bound and gagged. The 2 polaroid shots are different. The first one can be found at the link in the above post. That one was shown early in the episode. Later in the episode, there is a shot of a different polaroid. It is a closer shot of the two of them bound and gagged. They are brief, especially the second one. It's not surprising that you didn't see anything while fast-forwarding.

The thing is, those polaroid shots are great! If only we could have seen actual footage like that.

Do you think those polaroids ended up in the trash can when the shooting was done?
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Saturday October 01 22:54:47 2005
Criminal Minds
Can someone please put in an entry for the past episode of Criminal Minds? I missed it but would like to read about what happened, hopefully I can catch it on it's repeat.
Saturday October 01 23:08:48 2005
Re: DISPOSABLE ACTRESSES
hallbird wrote:

> While watching CBS last night and the two disposable
> actresses playing the b&g victims. By disposable I
> mean they're sole purpose on the show was to play the
> b&g victim. It's a role anyone could play since all
> you have to do is look suitably frightened. We see these
> unknowns all the time, mostly in tv series but
> occasionally in movies and someone always wants to know
> their names even though we never heard of them and will
> probably never hear of them again, like the sisters on
> CSI a week ago.

In my post, I posed the question whether the producers of "Threshold" had her bound and gagged in brief panties and a camisole top in order to induce and sustain viewer interest in the program. The actress bound and gagged in that episode is irrefutably struggling to establish a career, and was exultant to receive that role, despite the fact that it called for her to be bound and gagged in a skimpy outfit for most of the episode.
Yes, her sole purpose was to play a bound and gagged damsel in distress, and she fulfilled this role very well. But she could've just as easily been bound and gagged in regular street clothes, such as a blouse with jeans or a skirt. Does everyone agree with me that her apparel, the briefs and snug camisole top, were chosen explicitly to induce and sustain viewer interest?
Hadji
Saturday October 01 23:14:43 2005
Re: Threshold
Hadji wrote:

> She is bound and gagged for a prolonged period of time.
> The escaped mental patient leaves her bound and gagged,
> and the actual villain discovers her. There is a brief
> scene where he removes her gag, and then reties it
> between her teeth, so it becomes a cleave gag. All the
> while, she is wearing the camisole top and briefs.

This episode of threshold presents an incongruous scenario. A damsel is bound and gagged by someone besides the villain, and left by that person. I can think of two movies in which this scenario has occurred.
The first one is "Evil Laugh", in which a gorgeous blonde medical student is left bound and gagged on a bed as part of a sex game by her boyfriend. She is discovered by the killer, who stands over her and cackles maniacally, and then hides. Since she is gagged, she is unable to warn her boyfriend about their impending peril when he returns.
Another one is "Death Mask", in which Lorenzo Lamas leaves a brunette hottie bound and gagged in the closet of a motel room. She is struggling energetically and making very convincing "mmph" noises when the villains, with whom she is in league, discover her. She is wearing a bra and panties while she is bound and gagged.
Hadji
Saturday October 01 23:24:44 2005
Re: Threshold
Hadji wrote:

> Hadji wrote:
>
> > She is bound and gagged for a prolonged period of
> time.
> > The escaped mental patient leaves her bound and
> gagged,
> > and the actual villain discovers her. There is a
> brief
> > scene where he removes her gag, and then reties it
> > between her teeth, so it becomes a cleave gag. All
> the
> > while, she is wearing the camisole top and briefs.

I just composed and submitted a Database Entry for this episode. I consulted the TV Tome Wep Page for this series to learn the name of the actress who's bound and gagged, and the episode number.
Saturday October 01 23:27:17 2005
Re: Numbers
> Tapemaster wrote:

> Even if nothing did turn out for this show, it's
> certainly been an interesting couple of weeks with these
> crime dramas (CSI, SVU, Threshold, and next week NCIS)
> trying to one-up each other with gagged DiD scenes.

Yes, it does seem this TV season is off to a great start. Don't forget the nice scene from Criminal Minds as well. Not bad for the first week of October. Also seems like there are more shows on this season that at least have the potential for scenes than in the last few years. Hopefully, some of them will actually last thru the end of the year before cancellation sets in.

Also thanks for the newsgroups tip, DL the Criminal Minds scene in HDTV, my locals have horrible reception.
Caesar
Saturday October 01 23:32:52 2005
Re: Numbers
Tapemaster wrote:


> There are 2 scenes of the FBI agents looking at polaroid
> pictures of the mom and daughter bound and gagged. The 2
> polaroid shots are different. The first one can be found
> at the link in the above post. That one was shown early
> in the episode. Later in the episode, there is a shot of
> a different polaroid. It is a closer shot of the two of
> them bound and gagged. They are brief, especially the
> second one. It's not surprising that you didn't see
> anything while fast-forwarding.

So was the first shot of the polaroids at the very beginning when the lady slides the pic across the table to the detective? It was just barely a glimpse, and not even a front-facing shot, just a low side shot of the pic...you can barely even make out what is on the picture. I tried to access Wavy's link of the first pic to see what to look for but I keep getting that "Forbidden" message.
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Saturday October 01 23:40:33 2005
Re: Numbers
JP wrote:

> So was the first shot of the polaroids at the very
> beginning when the lady slides the pic across the table
> to the detective? It was just barely a glimpse..[SNIP]

Ahh, nevermind. I just FF'ed a few more minutes & saw a front view of the pic. That must be the shot Wavy had posted.
JP
japfeif@aol.com

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