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| Thursday October 20 00:56:13 2005 Re: Surface |
| ss wrote:
> Alias is also in trouble, although they'll hesitate about > cancelling such a high profile show. The idea of a > pregnant secret agent is just disturbing. They need to > get Rachel Nichols into some preview-friendly > outfits--and situations--pronto. "Alias" is safe for the full-season. I'd say it's iffy for a renewal, either because the ratings are bad or Garner calls it quits. Plus, ABC has enough hits on its hands, where it doesn't need "Alias" and its critical acclaim anymore. It's never been a ratings winner anyway and ABC knew moving it 8 p.m. on Thursday would drop the ratings. Garner is heading for maternity leave in December. They haven't said whether she'll be missing from a few episodes or whether the show will be in reruns for 2 months. Hopefully, Nichols will find some trouble, and ropes and a gag, soon. |
| Thursday October 20 01:18:46 2005 Attn: Handcuff Fans |
| Got ahold abit of that music video,
here what *roughly* have from sorting current: Shin Mina the singer and vid Kiss Kiss Volume 3 is Korean. She apparently a big football fan, hit the world cup games, but the football not involved in the video. The vid about a I guess a Korean gal? taken out clubbing (In UK I believe?) by a Brit fella whom has a wandering eye. Brit gal cuts in on her inciting jealousies, so she calls the police and reports the Brit gal as a suspected terrorist. Police storm the club and arrest her. Doesn't help the Korean gal's cause, as this fella over making moves on another girl a second later That what trying to relate _________________ Making a clip to both confirm the title, and brighten up to ensure proper cuff scene as opposed to implied one. Passing it to the interested, etc. So if any other Cuff fans like to have a look, post over on Trades Page |
| Jay L |
| Thursday October 20 01:21:34 2005 Blind Witness |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> She has short hair because her character is blind. Most > blind women prefer to keep their hair short because it's > easier to maintain. She didn't cut it to apply the tape > gag, most likely there was not glue on the tape when they > applied it anyway. It's a prop. There was definitely adhesive on that tape. It's REAL tape! It is one of the most realistic gags ever in a mainstream scene. The most likely scenario is that she cut her hair short to add believability as a blind character. THEN when they were shooting the bondage scene, the shorter hairstyle gave them the convenient opportunity to use a wrap-around tape gag, making the scene look more realistic. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Thursday October 20 01:31:41 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
| I saw a commercial for this show that showed a brief shot of "Toot" (the Betty Boop type character) with a roll of dynamite in her mouth. Was she tied in that scene? Does anyone know anything about it? |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Thursday October 20 02:22:54 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
| Tapemaster wrote:
> I saw a commercial for this show that showed a brief shot > of "Toot" (the Betty Boop type character) with > a roll of dynamite in her mouth. Was she tied in that > scene? Does anyone know anything about it? Actually, it turned out that this was from tonight's episode (with Foxxy Love bound and gagged) as well. Toot Braunstein is acting as a "beached whale" (because she's fat?) and island natives try to blow her up with dynamite. There is a great helpless expression on Toot's face after the dynamite is shoved in her mouth. She is not tied, but she is unable to move around. It almost seems as if she is tied with seaweed. The other scene (with Foxxy bound and gagged in the closet) was great! Her capture scene was very reminiscent of Anne-Marie Martin's scene in Sledge Hammer "Wild About Hammer." When Foxxy was found, the joke of Captain Hero taking a picture "of the crime scene" and then "finding" 2 more clues (tissues and lubrication) and saying that he will be in the hero-cave "rubbing out a solution" was hilarious! As they say, the funniest things come from real life! Mainstream society DOES know that a bound and gagged woman is a turn-on! |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Thursday October 20 02:49:59 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
| Help wrote:
> First one was a blink and you miss it with the Josie and > the Pussycats character. > > Second, was a longer scene with the same character. There was only 1 sequence with Foxxy Love (the Josie and the Pussycats character) bound and gagged (the scene in the closet.) Where was the "blink-and-you-miss-it" scene? |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Thursday October 20 03:12:56 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
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> > > > Second, was a longer scene with the same character. > > > There was only 1 sequence with Foxxy Love (the Josie and > the Pussycats character) bound and gagged (the scene in > the closet.) Where was the > "blink-and-you-miss-it" scene? The blink and you miss it scene popped in the opening five minutes. When all the characters were trying to find work, and all of them were being rejected at talent offices with door slam after door slam after door slam... If you blinked and missed it, one of the last door slams was a car trunk being slammed on Roxy bound and gagged in the trunk. I loved this show last season. It was depraved but brilliant, and the only thing missing was B/G scenes for Roxy and the Princess. One character down, one to go... Also, even though she's not rendered as fetchingly as Roxy or the Princess, there was an additional gag scene for Toot, the over-indulgent declining Betty Boop character. The natives on the island she landed on gagged her with dynamite in an attempt to destroy their annoying new deity. |
| KEVIN |
| Thursday October 20 03:27:19 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
| KEVIN wrote:
> If you blinked and missed it, one of the last door slams > was a car trunk being slammed on Roxy bound and gagged in > the trunk. Thanks Kevin. It will be on again later so I'll record it then. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Thursday October 20 04:47:36 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
| LV wrote:
> Help wrote: > > > First one was a blink and you miss it with the Josie > and > > the Pussycats character. > > > > Second, was a longer scene with the same character... What exactly is this show? I've not heard it mentioned before but everyone else seems to know what it is. Is it an animated show or a live-action show? |
| Thursday October 20 05:46:35 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> LV wrote: > > > Help wrote: > > > > > First one was a blink and you miss it with the > Josie > > and > > > the Pussycats character. > > > > > > Second, was a longer scene with the same > character... > > What exactly is this show? I've not heard it mentioned > before but everyone else seems to know what it is. Is it > an animated show or a live-action show? This show is animated and parodies both cartoon characters and reality programming. It is a caustic, trenchant satire in which several animated characters, parodies of famous cartoon archetypes, live together in a house. There is a handsome, virile superhero who resembles Superman, a gorgeous black girl who resembles Valerie on "Josi and he Pussycats", a female who resembles Betty Boop, etc. You get the idea. |
| Hadji |
| Thursday October 20 06:35:39 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| Tapemaster wrote:
> There was definitely adhesive on that tape. It's REAL > tape! Even if there is adhesive on the tape, the type of tape used is packing tape which is very weak and has very little stick to it. Even hair will barely stick to it. > It is one of the most realistic gags ever in a > mainstream scene. Realistic looking does not mean it's real. It just means it was photographed in a way to give the appearence of reality. It's a movie. |
| Thursday October 20 07:05:38 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
| Tapemaster wrote:
> There was only 1 sequence with Foxxy Love (the Josie and > the Pussycats character) bound and gagged (the scene in > the closet.) Where was the > "blink-and-you-miss-it" scene? Here is a cap of the scene in question. Thanks for the alert guys. I've been waiting to see Foxy get B&G since this series started. Not usually much for the cartoon stuff, but damn if that animated girl didn't need some rope. Speaking of which, I found it interesting that the gag in the second scene was indeed a rope gag. Not very common in mainstream scenes, at least to my knowledge. The Kaptain Hero comment was hilarious, as a previous poster mentioned. This show is quite racy and very funny IMHO. I wish more shows would push the envelope like this. |
| Wavy |
| verywavy@yahoo.com |
| http://www.slumberville.com/temp/foxy.html |
| Thursday October 20 11:12:55 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
| Wavy wrote:
> Tapemaster wrote: > > > There was only 1 sequence with Foxxy Love (the Josie > and > > the Pussycats character) bound and gagged (the scene > in > > the closet.) Where was the > > "blink-and-you-miss-it" scene? > > Here is a cap of the scene in question. Thanks for the > alert guys. I've been waiting to see Foxy get B&G > since this series started. Not usually much for the > cartoon stuff, but damn if that animated girl didn't need > some rope. Ditto to everything you said, Wavy, and thanks a ton for posting a cap. That first scene was literally so blink-and-you-miss-it that is really best enjoyed as a screen cap. Foxxy's second scene, of course, was so deliciously slow-developing that fetish fans could savor it. They definitely played up the sexual element of the whole thing with a lot of humor once she managed to get herself covered in honey. And yes, the Superhero guy's photograph and comment were par for the course funny for this show. |
| KEVIN |
| Thursday October 20 11:33:03 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| It is one of the most realistic gags ever in a
mainstream scene. Realistic looking does not mean it's real. It just means it was photographed in a way to give the appearence of reality. It's a movie. Lets put it this way. It is about as close to a real gag you will find. Even plastic rap with no stick will work very well. Anything wraped tight and even with a little stick will have good hold. It is hollywood and much of it is not real , but if it looks real and the girls are really sexy and new to it. Well you know the rest. Lets face most of the so called comercial bondage out there is very fake to. I see very little so called pro bondage out there that would hold a girl for more then 5 minutes if even that. LOL A strager is watching is such a good scene. I am a bit amazed that no one else mentioned it. LOL Paul |
| Morph |
| Thursday October 20 11:42:55 2005 Blue Heelers |
| Some caps at the link |
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| http://www.blueheelers.org/episode/494.html |
| Thursday October 20 11:50:21 2005 VAN's FiCTiON is Updated! |
| ...& it's about frakin' time!!
Chapter 5 of "Isla Paraíso" is posted *&* a new slavegirl is languishing in Jabba's Harem. :-) |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/ |
| Thursday October 20 12:36:03 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
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> > The other scene (with Foxxy bound and gagged in the > closet) was great! Her capture scene was very reminiscent > of Anne-Marie Martin's scene in Sledge Hammer "Wild > About Hammer." Would you please elaborate on the capture scene? Details would be appreciated! |
| gytalf2000 |
| Thursday October 20 12:52:06 2005 Drawn Together |
| FYI, the episode in question is:
"The One Wherein There's a Big TwistPart 2" (2.01) The Comedy Central website says it'll repeat ... SATURDAY (the 22nd) 12:30 AM SATURDAY (the 22nd) 11:30 PM MONDAY (the 24th) 12 AM WEDNESDAY (the 26th) 12:30 AM I haven't seen the episode yet, but the "capture scene" was in the promos all last week: Foxy discovers something in a closet, she gets whacked with a giant strawberry, then she slumps unconscious. |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Thursday October 20 13:00:18 2005 Re: Blue Heelers |
| This is a perfect example of a gag that may look like it would work to some , but the fact is she could get that thing out very easy. LOL
Some caps at the link http://www.blueheelers.org/episode/494.html |
| Morph |
| Thursday October 20 13:13:57 2005 Re: Blue Heelers |
| A knot is always a nice touch, like Lindsay Felton in 'The Pretender'
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| Thursday October 20 13:33:59 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| Morph wrote:
> Even plastic wrap with no stick will > work very well. Wrong. According to LeeLee Sobieski on the Joyride DVD, the saran wrap fake tape they used on her scene was totally fake, she could talk fine and faked all her mmphing and struggling, and could get out of it any time she wanted to, but that the crew worked to make it LOOK real even tho it wasn't. |
| Anubis |
| Thursday October 20 13:50:00 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| Morph wrote:
> A stranger is watching is such a good scene. I am a bit > amazed that no one else mentioned it. Could be because so few of us have ever seen it. I haven't, and until now I've never seen it discussed, either. |
| Mad Dan |
| http://www.whitelord.ath.cx/dansdidnts |
| Thursday October 20 13:53:32 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| Anubis wrote:
> Morph wrote: > > > Even plastic wrap with no stick will > > work very well. > > Wrong. According to LeeLee Sobieski on the Joyride DVD, > the saran wrap fake tape they used on her scene was > totally fake, she could talk fine and faked all her > mmphing and struggling, and could get out of it any time > she wanted to, but that the crew worked to make it LOOK > real even tho it wasn't. Has anyone wondered why the trcuker who bound and gagged Leelee Sobieski didn't use duct tape, which is an item I think a trucker would have handy? Duct tape is ubiquitous, and one would think that people in blue-collar occupations would always have a roll of it handy. |
| Hadji |
| Thursday October 20 14:23:39 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| > Has anyone wondered why the trcuker who bound and gagged
> Leelee Sobieski didn't use duct tape, which is an item I > think a trucker would have handy? Guess he was out of duct tape, as his other victim (Jessica Bowman) was cleave gagged with a bandana! |
| Thursday October 20 14:29:03 2005 Re: Mainstream? |
| Tapemaster wrote:
> Tapemaster wrote: > Mainstream society DOES know that a bound and gagged woman is a turn-on! I don't know, appears more bondage sex in general known than taking pictures. Was out at a pub one time amongst people sharing our interest and even to them, I one of more "off the wall" characters on an "off the wall" site and cap/clipping Mainstream scenes seems very extreme. Say that correct. If they figure extreme, then the mainstream society likely figure whole thing more a source of warped humour |
| Jay L |
| Thursday October 20 14:37:15 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| Hadji wrote:
> Has anyone wondered why the trucker who bound and gagged > Leelee Sobieski didn't use duct tape, which is an item I > think a trucker would have handy? Good question. My guess is so they could enhance the scene by showing her expression through the clear tape, since she couldn't struggle or try to escape. |
| Anubis |
| Thursday October 20 14:56:19 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| Anubis wrote:
> Hadji wrote: > > Has anyone wondered why the trucker who bound and > gagged > > Leelee Sobieski didn't use duct tape, which is an > item I > > think a trucker would have handy? And not only that, but he DID have a role of Saran Wrap handy! |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Thursday October 20 15:08:49 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| > And not only that, but he DID have a role of Saran Wrap
> handy! The alternative Ulee's Gold scene: Villain: Got any duct tape? Ulee: Nope, but I got some Saran Wrap that I use to preserve salads. Villain: Well, I guess we can give it a shot. |
| Thursday October 20 15:30:11 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
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> The most likely scenario is that she cut her hair short > to add believability as a blind character. THEN when they > were shooting the bondage scene, the shorter hairstyle > gave them the convenient opportunity to use a wrap-around > tape gag, making the scene look more realistic. would actually be easier to fake or prevent damage with long hair. I have done that. With long hair you can easily add some "additional" hair and let the tape stick to that. Not a full wig, just a little extra hair. |
| Thursday October 20 15:30:16 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
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> The most likely scenario is that she cut her hair short > to add believability as a blind character. THEN when they > were shooting the bondage scene, the shorter hairstyle > gave them the convenient opportunity to use a wrap-around > tape gag, making the scene look more realistic. would actually be easier to fake or prevent damage with long hair. I have done that. With long hair you can easily add some "additional" hair and let the tape stick to that. Not a full wig, just a little extra hair. |
| Thursday October 20 16:10:43 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| > Wrong. According to LeeLee Sobieski on the Joyride DVD,
> the saran wrap fake tape they used on her scene was > totally fake, she could talk fine That was also an example of a FRUSTRATING scene. It was a perfect scenario until he applied that stupid gag. |
| Thursday October 20 16:23:37 2005 Blind Witness DVD cover! |
| With all the current discussion of Blind Witness lately I thought I'd point out the very amusing DVD cover design. I thought it interesting how the designer placed another graphic across her mouth with the tag line, "See No Evil" (apparently speak no evil as well!).
(Ah! Tried adding the damn image but couldn't get it to work... so I'll just leave the link) http://www.buy.com/retail/large_image.asp?sku=40239486 |
| Lunk |
| Thursday October 20 16:34:00 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Wrong. According to LeeLee Sobieski on the Joyride > DVD, > > the saran wrap fake tape they used on her scene was > > > totally fake, she could talk fine > > That was also an example of a FRUSTRATING scene. It was > a perfect scenario until he applied that stupid gag. I thought the actual gagging was cool looking, but I do agree, once you realize how ineffective the gag really was then it lost some appeal. To me, it was kinda funny how when the guy was applying the wrap to LeeLee it looked tight. When he was wrapping it around her wrists behind the chair and when he was wrapping it around her head... but the more she moved and struggled it became almost embarrassingly loose. |
| L. |
| Thursday October 20 17:07:33 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| > Realistic looking does not mean it's real. It just means
> it was photographed in a way to give the appearence of > reality. It's a movie. Pretty sure the the gags in Ulee's Gold were real. It was a low-budget movie so they probably just bought a roll of duct tape and used it as is. |
| Thursday October 20 18:06:50 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
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IMHO they were both real gags and both used real tape. True, parcel tape may not be as heavy but it stretches more and can be effective (see Funny Games for proof of this). |
| Rhavin |
| Thursday October 20 19:30:48 2005 A new one |
| Who is she? |
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| togolane |
| Thursday October 20 20:12:38 2005 Re: 2 Scenes on Drawn Together |
| gytalf2000 wrote:
> > > > > The other scene (with Foxxy bound and gagged in the > > closet) was great! > > Would you please elaborate on the capture scene? Details > would be appreciated! How about a Database entry? That would be even more useful. |
| Brian R |
| Thursday October 20 20:36:37 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| L. wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > > Wrong. According to LeeLee Sobieski on the > Joyride > > DVD, > > > the saran wrap fake tape they used on her scene > was > > > > > totally fake, she could talk fine > > > > That was also an example of a FRUSTRATING scene. It > was > > a perfect scenario until he applied that stupid > gag. > > I thought the actual gagging was cool looking, but I do > agree, once you realize how ineffective the gag really > was then it lost some appeal. > To me, it was kinda funny how when the guy was applying > the wrap to LeeLee it looked tight. When he was wrapping > it around her wrists behind the chair and when he was > wrapping it around her head... but the more she moved and > struggled it became almost embarrassingly loose. That kind of shrink wrap is pretty common amongst truckers. Having worked in a warehouse and shipping, we used it all the time to bundle up boxes, sacks of feed and other assorted stuff to keep it from tumbling off the pallets. And yes it works pretty good, I and co-worker used some to wrap up a co-worker from her ankles to her shoulders because she kept playfully sticking packing tape in the co-worker's hair. Still kicking myself for not getting any pictures of that. |
| Roger Wilco |
| Thursday October 20 20:54:04 2005 Cleau Duvall taped - extensive DVD vidcaps on fansite |
| Just found a fan site for Cleau Duvall, which features extensive DVD vidcaps from her only scene in "Niagara, Niagara". She is a shop assistant who gets nicely taped up and tape gagged (black duct) by two rednecks:
http://cleaduvall.net/photos/thumbnails.php?album=43 |
| Tape Fan |
| Thursday October 20 21:32:11 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| Anubis wrote:
I believe you read that. If it is actually true the girl is a first rate actor. Cause the panic looks very real indeed. A great scene in theory any way. I don't mind fake bondage ( on TV) if it looks that good and with such a hot chick. Wrong. According to LeeLee Sobieski on the Joyride DVD, the saran wrap fake tape they used on her scene was totally fake, she could talk fine and faked all her mmphing and struggling, and could get out of it any time she wanted to, but that the crew worked to make it LOOK real even tho it wasn't. |
| Morph |
| Thursday October 20 21:41:24 2005 saran wrap fake tape they used on her in Joyride |
| Forgot to mention that in some of the scenes it is much tighter then others. The wrap tape in joy ride. That is a good gag in reality. I have gagged many girls with there permision of course. And that one does work. It is a clever gag cause it really sucks to the skin.
A cleave gag looks good to me only about one percent of the time. Usually they just are kind of lame excuses for gags. But they can look really good such as Heather L. tg hooker scenes. Also the Original head above water with the green cleave is fantastic. there are some good ones for sure. Of course whatever you like is fine. There are by the way duct tapes that really do hold. Even with one strip. % 99 of them come off easy , but some are very sticky. |
| Morph |
| Thursday October 20 22:02:15 2005 Re: Cleau Duvall taped - extensive DVD vidcaps on fansite |
| Thank you!!! I have been trying to find caps of this scene for several years now. One grail down, only about 50 to go now. |
| NoMan |
| Thursday October 20 22:33:24 2005 Re: Blind Witness |
| Morph wrote:
> Anubis wrote: > I believe you read that. If it is actually true the > girl is a first rate actor. It is true. It is on LeeLee's audio commentary on the Joy Ride DVD. She daid that the non sticky prop tape they used was similar to saran wrap. She also makes a point of saying that when she is going "mmMMMmMMmph!" she is faking it because the bondage was staged and didn't actually restrain her or silence her. It's a great commentary, blows the lid wide open on how filmmakers create bondage scenes for the camera and gives great behind the scenes insight. |
| Anubis |
| http://www.anuvids.com |
| Thursday October 20 22:59:11 2005 Re: A new one |
| togolane wrote:
> Who is she? I don't know, but she's kinda pretty to me :) |
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