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Thursday October 27 00:40:39 2005
Re: Railroad Bondage
Melina Kanakaredes is chained to railroad tracks with a train approaching in the episode of "Providence" entitled "Rescue Me". Scene is a black and white dream sequence at the beginning of the episode.
CM
Thursday October 27 00:56:29 2005
Re: Railroad Bondage
CM wrote:

> Melina Kanakaredes is chained to railroad tracks with a
> train approaching in the episode of
> "Providence" entitled "Rescue Me".
> Scene is a black and white dream sequence at the beginning of the episode.

I really wish Melina would find some trouble on "CSI: N.Y." This potential damsel avoided the gag on "Guiding Light" and has been an untouchable on TV and movies, either by bad roles for us ("Providence") or just no luck ("CSI" and the Robert DeNiro movie she was in).
Thursday October 27 01:05:44 2005
Any news on the traps of Saw 2?
also, to prove the point, the best DiD screens are the tied to a conveyor belt (personally loves the one in Motel Hell)
SC
ddp456@yahoo.com
Thursday October 27 03:04:11 2005
Captivity
Anymore on this movie with Elisa Cuthbert? Someone said earlier she was tied to a pole. How? with what?
Thursday October 27 03:05:35 2005
Girl in the Basement
I saw the box in BB and it looks good. There is no entry in the DB, is it any good?
Thursday October 27 05:22:59 2005
Re: Mainstream scens with damsels in jeans
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Sic wrote:
> >
> > >
> Would anyone happen to know of any mainstream scenes
> > that
> > >
> feature women bound and gagged in jeans?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > Kate Jackson was B&G in jeans in both
> "Charlie's
> > Angels" and "Scarecrow and Mrs.
> King."
>

Wasn't Heather Thomas bound and gagged in jeans in all of her scenes in "The Fall Guy"? She wore jeans most of the time on that show, as I recall.


Hadji
Thursday October 27 05:26:30 2005
Re: Mainstream bondage archetypes
> what other (if any) forms of bondage are 'buried in the psyche of everyone'?

IMHO, if you asked the average Joe or Jane on the street what they think of when they hear the phrase 'Damsel in
Distress' they would respond with one of the following:

1) Princess in a tower (not necessarily bound)
2) Girl tied to the railroad tracks
3) Girl tied to a log at the ol' sawmill
4) Girl tied to a pole - dragon bait
5) Unwilling harem girl
----
An "archetype" example of #5 would be Princess Leia as Jabba the Hutt's captive in "Return of the Jedi".

Other likely mainstream archetypes:
6) Girl tied to pole by cannibals/savages, or as a sacrifice to the volcano god (or equivalent).

7) Joan of Arc - An iconic DiD figure in classical art.
Kinky-napper
Thursday October 27 05:28:38 2005
Re: Mainstream scens with damsels in jeans
Hadji wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > > Sic wrote:
> > Would anyone happen to know of any mainstream scenes

> > > that
> > feature women bound and gagged in jeans?

> > > > Thanks

> Wasn't Heather Thomas bound and gagged in jeans in all of
> her scenes in "The Fall Guy"? She wore jeans
> most of the time on that show, as I recall.
>
Also, Heather Thomas was bound and gagged in jeans in the movie "Hidden Obsession". This was a rather lengthy scene; she was bound and gagged twice by a man impersonating a sheriff's deputy, as I recall.


Hadji
Thursday October 27 05:50:12 2005
Re: Mainstream bondage archetypes
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Other likely mainstream archetypes:

> 6) Girl tied to pole by cannibals/savages, or as a
> sacrifice to the volcano god (or equivalent).

> 7) Joan of Arc - An iconic DiD figure in classical art.

Sounds like variations from Pofoz's 4th archetype (the pole), don't you think so?
Filou
http://dids.adbd.org
Thursday October 27 06:18:54 2005
Re: Railroad bondage. Still the best
Rich McGill wrote:

> The original book version of "The Man with the
> Golden Gun" (so much better than the movie with
> Roger Moore as James Bond)

As are most of the books

>had a scene with Mary
> Goodnight (I believe) tied to the tracks of a railway of
> the sort one might find in an amusement park.

The line is full-size standard gauge, the engine a genuine 1860s Mason 4-4-0 (same decade as the first theatrical railtie!) pulling an equally genuine period luxury coach. Fleming, evidently a railfan of taste, describes it as "the most beautiful train in the world."

Now, the Baltimore and Ohio has a working 1850s Mason, which starred in "The Wild, Wild West" movie, but you'd have to take it to Cuba to shoot that scene today. Cuba still has many veteran steam locos, most of them heavily modified and rather tatty, and they work hard for a living in the sugar cane harvest. The Caribbean setting, of course, is just like that in Fleming's book.

Actually, Bond is told it's Mary Goodnight on the track, but when the train runs over "her", it's revealed to be a dummy. Scaramanga was trying to extort information from Bond.
Mad Dan
Thursday October 27 06:28:23 2005
Re: Mainstream bondage archetypes
I'm pretty certain that to the average Brit, a "damsel in distress" is no more than a lady stranded at the roadside by a broken-down car, or stuck with a malfunctioning washing machine or photocopier.

The more educated might get as far as a prisoner in a tower, not necssarily bound.

To get into our frame of reference at all, you'd have to ask specifically for archetypes of women tied up.
Mad Dan
http://www.whitelord.ath.cx/dansdidnts
Thursday October 27 08:52:52 2005
Re: Railroad Bondage
My favorite railroad bondage scene was with Diana Rigg in "Gravediggers" from the Avengers.
Chicago White Sox 2005 World Champions
Thursday October 27 10:16:50 2005
new Mag cover
the new issue of "Arena" has Elisha Cuthbert on the cover, with the greatest caption ever:

"Bound and gagged no more. Arena unleashes the 24 kidnap queen"

here's the link:

http://gorillamask.net/elishaarena.shtml
steve
Thursday October 27 10:21:24 2005
Re: new Mag cover
> the new issue of "Arena" has Elisha Cuthbert on
> the cover, with the greatest caption ever:

no, the greastest caption ever would be..."Bound and gagged some more...Pictures inside..." But thanks for the heads up!
kramer
Thursday October 27 10:36:06 2005
Re: Railroad bondage. Still the best
Van wrote:

> Rich McGill wrote:
>
> > The original book version of "The Man with the
>
> > Golden Gun" (so much better than the movie with
>
> > Roger Moore as James Bond) had a scene with Mary
> > Goodnight (I believe) tied to the tracks of a
> railway of
> > the sort one might find in an amusement park.

I wouldn't get too excited because the bound Mary Goodnight turns out to be a mannequin placed there by Scaramanga - if I remeber she is bound in the forest watching as Bond jumps about all over the train (a miniature train that takes people around a plantation I think) trying to stop it before it runs over the dummy Goodnight.

Roger Moore's Left Eyebrow
Thursday October 27 10:40:21 2005
Re: Railroad Bondage
>Chicago White Sox 2005 World Champions

Wow! Which other countries competed?

wrote:

> My favorite railroad bondage scene was with Diana Rigg in
> "Gravediggers" from the Avengers.

See http://theavengers.tv/forever/peel1-2.htm

for background info, and follow link to the railway's website.

Mad Dan
Thursday October 27 10:55:40 2005
Re: Railroad bondage. Still the best
Roger Moore's Left Eyebrow wrote:

>> I wouldn't get too excited because the bound Mary
> Goodnight turns out to be a mannequin placed there by
> Scaramanga - if I remeber she is bound in the forest
> watching as Bond jumps about all over the train

I thought she hadn't actually been captured at that stage, but I may be mistaken. I certainly wouldn't be averse to a new movie changing that bit and tying the real Mary to the track, though. :-)

> miniature train

No way. It's the genuine full-size 1867 article (Fleming refers to the engine as "Highland Light class"), lovingly restored and priceless as befits a deranged millionaire. Bond unforgivably wrecks it with Scaramanga aboard at the end of the book.


Mad Dan
Thursday October 27 11:26:41 2005
Re: Old fashioned damsels no more?
> With Yahoo deleting every group there is that deals with
> old fashioned damsel style bondage (railroad track and
> buzzsaw) Is there no hope of ever seeing it's kind
again?

I hear the train a comin'; it's rollin' 'round the bend,
And I ain't seen a damsel since I don't know when.
J Cash
Thursday October 27 11:37:41 2005
Re: Lindsay Lohan handgagging her sister
Tom wrote:

> This link shows a photo flipbook from Linday Lohan's new
> episode of Making the Video on MTV.


Hey guys, hate to be a pain but this pic won't load for me! :( Any chance somebody could provide a direct shot of the pic here? Really keen to see it!
Thursday October 27 12:03:29 2005
Re: new Mag cover
> no, the greastest caption ever would be..."Bound and
> gagged some more...Pictures inside..." But thanks
> for the heads up!

Eliasha does have a film coming out called 'The Quiet' :)
Keef
Thursday October 27 12:40:06 2005
Hostel and Show Me
These are two upcoming films. The release dates are not finalized.

Hostel looks to be very "Saw"like in nature. The website offers a tease, while the trailer shows the situations. Only a male is seen in a chair, but there are hints of other ladies in the situation. Here is the link for everything from yahoo.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/hostel.html

The second is Show Me, where a woman is taken by a couple of teens. There are two spots for info on this one. The trailer is here.

http://www.wolfereleasing.com/showme/trailer.htm

While another trailer and a couple images are at the website.

http://www.showmethefilm.com/

JJ
Thursday October 27 12:58:37 2005
Re: Mainstream scens with damsels in jeans
Hadji wrote:

> Wasn't Heather Thomas bound and gagged in jeans in all of
> her scenes in "The Fall Guy"? She wore jeans
> most of the time on that show, as I recall.
>
Not only that, but all three scenes were in different styles of jeans. Dark blue in the Mary Crosby scene; regular tight ones in the van scene, and light-colored ones in the floor scene with Howie.

Just wish they had used some variety on Heather's gags, like they did with the other Heather on "T.J. Hooker."

Thursday October 27 13:12:25 2005
Re: Old fashioned damsels no more?
J Cash wrote:

> > With Yahoo deleting every group there is that deals
> with
> > old fashioned damsel style bondage (railroad track
> and
> > buzzsaw) Is there no hope of ever seeing it's kind
>
> again?
>
> I hear the train a comin'; it's rollin' 'round the bend,
>
> And I ain't seen a damsel since I don't know when.

LOL!

It's the Orange Damsel Special
Bearing down on Clementine.

Help me, Doctor, I'm sick....

We do still have a traditional DiD group, namely Old Fashion Damsels in Distress, but for reasons too complicated to explain here, you can't join it directly any more.

Anyone with a Yahoo i/d showing an age of at least 18 can e-mail me from the bottom of my homepage, and I'll send you an invite. I'll need to be able to check your i/d, so Yahoo doesn't delete us for terms of service violations. Don't y'all mail at once, y'hear?

Mad Dan
http://www.whitelord.ath.cx/dansdidnts
Thursday October 27 13:18:26 2005
Re: Attn: Mr Filter & Handcuff Fans
Jay L wrote:

> Saw an interesting poster for a Hong Kong (TVB channel)
> show called "Misleading Track"

Hope this works.

Handcuff
http://www.tvfe.com/drama/2005_dramas/drama_pictures/misleading_track.jpg
Handcuff_you
handcuff_you@yahoo.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Women_in_Cuffs_2/
Thursday October 27 13:33:48 2005
great track ties
Over the years I've found the odd cap from some great track tie scenes like the "Phillips and Wahll" radio show promo, and a couple I found at the old "Perilous Predicaments 2" group from the "Hollander's video". Does anyone remember seeing that? What was it exactly? a music video? To jog your memories, or if you have these, there was one cap of a Did with short blonde hair being tied by a bald villain, and a head and shoulders of the girl laid out on the track with ropes just below her shoulders. Does anyone have more caps of this scene that show her full length? Or the "Phillips and Wahll" scene? Where there's one there may well be more.
snidely claw
Thursday October 27 14:02:07 2005
Re: Attn: Mr Filter & Handcuff Fans- Misleading Track
Handcuff_you wrote:

> Hope this works.


Yes, that the one.
Thanks Handcuff
Jay L
Thursday October 27 14:05:14 2005
Re: great track ties
snidely claw wrote:

> What was it exactly? a music video? To jog
your memories, or if you have these, there was one cap of
a Did with short blonde hair being tied by a bald
villain, and a head and shoulders of the girl laid out on
the track with ropes just below her shoulders. Does
anyone have more caps of this scene that show her full
length?
================================================

Sounds familiar.
Let's you and I go over to Trades Page,
whilst I dig up that Music Video clip
Thursday October 27 14:14:21 2005
Re: great track ties
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> snidely claw
> Let's you and I go over to Trades Page,
> whilst I dig up that Music Video clip


Unsigned Poster? No, that mine
Jay L
Thursday October 27 14:21:25 2005
Re: Attn: Mr Filter & Handcuff Fans
Jay L wrote:
> Mr Filter you will like it

LOL, Jay, it isn't that I'm a fan, it is just that I'm not terribly picky :)

AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps
Thursday October 27 14:50:43 2005
Re: "Derailed" Aniston possible
For those who haven't seen it, a pic of Jennifer almost tape-gagging hersel can be seen at the Cyndy Preston Yahoo Group. Go to the Photos section and look under the ANISTON section.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cyndypreston/
Thursday October 27 15:47:08 2005
Re: Railroad Bondage
Does anyone rememeber the music show 'Solid Gold'? An episode had one of the black Solid Gold Dancers (on the left) totally wraped up in rope lying on a railway while she did the Top 10 Countdown.
http://www.sgdanceconnection.com/groups/images/83_group4.jpg
Thursday October 27 17:23:24 2005
Re: Railroad Bondage
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Does anyone rememeber the music show 'Solid Gold'? An
> episode had one of the black Solid Gold Dancers (on the
> left) totally wraped up in rope lying on a railway while
> she did the Top 10 Countdown.

I used to watch this show many, many years ago, and I recall her name being Darcel.
Hadji
Thursday October 27 18:10:30 2005
Re: Mainstream scenes with damsels in jeans
WOTW Season 1 Boxed Set is due out on the 1st.Episode "The Good Samaritan" has a good scene for jeans fans.
togolane
Thursday October 27 18:14:48 2005
Re: Greatest magazine cover captions
> the new issue of "Arena" has Elisha Cuthbert on the cover, with the greatest caption ever:

"Bound and gagged no more. Arena unleashes the 24 kidnap queen"
----
Thanks for the link!

Another candidate for "Greatest Magazine Cover Caption" was the October 1996 "Movieline" issue w/ Teri Hatcher clothed only in ropes wrapped (loosely) around her body:

"Climbing the Ropes
from TV bondage to the big screen"
Kinky-napper
Thursday October 27 18:38:23 2005
King Kong (2005)
The film company of Peter Jackson's re-make of "King Kong" has agreed to extend the theatrical release's length from 2-1/2 hours to 3 hours.

That *should* be lengthy enough to ensure that a Naomi Watts scene echoing Fay Wray's shouldn't end up as a DVD-extra.
Kinky-napper
Thursday October 27 19:28:35 2005
Re: Mainstream bondage archetypes
Kinky-napper wrote:
1) Princess in a tower (not necessarily bound)
2) Girl tied to the railroad tracks
3) Girl tied to a log at the ol' sawmill
4) Girl tied to a pole - dragon bait
5) Unwilling harem girl
6) Girl tied to pole by cannibals/savages, or as a
sacrifice to the volcano god (or equivalent).
7) Joan of Arc - An iconic DiD figure in classical art.
___________________________________________
#3
Ghost in the Invisible Bikini,The 1966
Deborah Walley (Lili Morton)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0060457
http://brianspage.com/cgi-bin/datab/dbdr.pl?n=1013

#5
It Takes a Thief(Case of Red Turnips,A)
Amy Thomson (Iris Vander)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0062572
http://brianspage.com/cgi-bin/datab/dbdr.pl?n=81

#6
MacGyver(Deadly Dreams)
Kim Zimmer (Lt. Murphy)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0088559
http://brianspage.com/cgi-bin/datab/dbdr.pl?n=2231
http://bindherupx.net/otm1/deborahwalley.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/cgg1/amythomson.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/cgg1/kimzimmer.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net/videos.htm
Thursday October 27 20:14:45 2005
Re: Railroad Bondage
Mad Dan wrote:

> >Chicago White Sox 2005 World Champions
>
> Wow! Which other countries competed?


Let's refrain from off-topic commentary, even in jest.

The Moderator
Thursday October 27 20:29:35 2005
Re: Railroad Bondage
I happened across a cartoon in a Playboy from the 60s.

It's a villain gloating over a damsel he's just tied to the tracks. He's casually loosening his tie, and he says something like,

"Train? My dear, there hasn't been a train along this line for years."
Brick
Thursday October 27 20:49:09 2005
Heads up for "Without A Trace"
IIRC, and I could be wrong because the memory is kinda hazy, tonight's "Without A Trace" had a promo about a woman kidnapped being into bondage games. And tonight's lead is supposed to be Korean. So there could be some Asian bondage on for us tonight. Or not. I am not sure, so don't anybody get mad if there's nothing there.
Pat Powers
Thursday October 27 20:51:26 2005
Re: bondage in jeans
Heather Thomas is tied to a chair in VERY tight jeans (we're talking a hint of camel toe) in the B-movie "Cyclone." No gag but the chair tie is imaginative, as Heather does some first class writhing as she's being given electric shocks to make her talk.
Pat Powers
Thursday October 27 21:10:27 2005
Re: Girl in the Basement
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I saw the box in BB and it looks good. There is no entry
> in the DB, is it any good?

It's ok.
Thursday October 27 21:32:55 2005
Re: Girl in the Basement
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I saw the box in BB and it looks good. There is no entry
> in the DB, is it any good?

It was called "Altered Ego" before being released on
DVD. The trailer, which can be viewd at
http://www.hollywoodwizard.com/library/alteredego.html
shows many scenes with a bound girl. Some gaggation too.
Abu Zalaam
Thursday October 27 21:33:07 2005
Single White Female 2
I held a copy of the DVD in my hand, today, but there's nothing on the cover that suggests a DiD-scene (other than the general premise). Has anyone seen it yet? There isn't a Brian's dBase entry.
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Thursday October 27 21:36:08 2005
Smallville next week
The official WB description says - Chloe (Allison Mack) convinces Lois (Erica Durance) to go undercover as a stripper, but things take a dangerous turn when Lois gets kidnapped by a diplomat's son (guest star Woody Jeffreys) who intends to sell her into slavery.
Kent Clark
Thursday October 27 21:51:57 2005
Possible new movie
I saw an ad for an indie film titled "Hotel", with the following plot summary:

Irene, the new receptionist in a hotel in the Austrian Alps, discovers that the girl she replaced vanished mysteriously. When her search for answers is met with indifference and hostility from the other employees, she becomes convinced that she must escape her impending doom.
Sounds like it has potential! Here's the official site:

http://www.coop99.at/hotel-derfilm/

and the unilluminating IMDB listing:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0415855/combined#comment
The Kindly One
Thursday October 27 21:57:23 2005
Re: Mainstream scenes with damsels in jeans
Kate Jackson also had an excellent scene in "Thunder and Lightning", I believe. Haven't seen it in years (hint, hint) but still remember the part where she realizes she is holding her legs spread towards the bad guy, and clamps them together.
Pygar
no_one@home.com
Thursday October 27 22:19:01 2005
Re: Single White Female 2
Van wrote:

> I held a copy of the DVD in my hand, today, but there's
> nothing on the cover that suggests a DiD-scene (other
> than the general premise). Has anyone seen it yet?
> There isn't a Brian's dBase entry.
> http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/


I didn't rent it the other day. I was waiting to see if someone else did.

I will rent it this weekend unless someone says there wasn't a scene.

"Boo" had a few lil scenes
Snowcat
Thursday October 27 23:49:45 2005
Masters if horror
If you go to the Yahoo TV listings you can download a clip of a new show on Showtime called Masters of Horror (my computer sucks, can't download squat). A description of on the clips goes; "Chained in the basement, Ellen sees Moonface prep his next victim." The description of the episode this Friday, "Incident on and off a Mountain Road," says something about a woman escaping the serial killer who kidnapped her. I don't have Showtime, but this has potential.
somerset

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