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Wednesday October 26 02:01:07 2005
NCIS & Human Trafficking
Anything on these programs last night? Thanks!
Delbert
Wednesday October 26 02:05:56 2005
Re: Kerhop's Kaptures
The actress in that picture (from Pulp Comics "David Alan Grier") is Jeanne Sapienza. It's a GREAT scene! She has been kidnapped by a killer (Grier) and while he is distracted she tries desperately to hop away and use her feet to turn the door knob. It was played for laughs but it has more bondage "drama" than most scenes. Sapienza gives a very spirited performance.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday October 26 04:17:35 2005
Re: NCIS & Human Trafficking
Delbert wrote:

> Anything on these programs last night? Thanks!

NCIS has a scene about 40 min in w/o commercials. Sort of short arrest scene, but Dinozo taunts her about being used to the handcuffs they slap on.

Didn't catch HT.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps
Wednesday October 26 05:04:27 2005
Re: Holy Grail photo railroad DID?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

It was the late 70's, 77 to 79 in NYC at a
> huge high end photo exhibit, either Kodak or Nikon. ...

No luck in finding a pic for you. I'd suggest you'd try some contemporary 'New Yorker' magazines - they usually list most of the big (and not so big) exhibits around town. Any decent research library should have the microfilm. Might at least find you the name of the exhibit.

Good luck!
Pofoz
Wednesday October 26 05:19:49 2005
I hear that train a coming.........
Glad to see there are some DIDs tied to the track lovers here. Here are a couple I'd love to see again:

Back in about 1990 or 91 a lite metal band called Mr. Big released a record called, "Lean into it". Though the cover of the album didn't feature any bondage, they had a concert tshirt that had cartoon of the band's mascot, a little guy whose hat covered everything but his feet, trying to hold back an old fashioned steam engine. At his feet on the track is a rather buxom blonde whose very nicely tied up wearing a sexy "Jessica Rabbitish" type dress. The bubble above her head has her saying, "Lean into it!"

I've mentioned this before but one of the great staples of the tv variety shows was the DID theme song, "Along Came Jones". Barbara Madrell did a version of this with the youngest Mandrell, Irlene as the damsel.
Sha Na Na, remember them?, did a version with their rather plain jane token female tied to the tracks.
Then there was the mighty pride of the Welsh, Tom Jones who did his version with the goddess Rachel Welch as the damsel. For that he should have been made Prime Minister!
Also, I hear Gloria Loring did an old fashioned DID on Red Skelton's show while she sang, "Don't Tie Me Down". I never saw this myself.

Blue Man
Blue Man
dimitri_el_slayer@yahoo.com
Wednesday October 26 06:31:31 2005
Re: Fun with Trains
Pofoz
I wonder if any of us Brian's Pagers are going to become model RR's because of this!
Reminds me of a cartoon I once saw in a magazine. A Snidley Whiplash type has returned with his wife after a night on the town to find his son, dressed like his dad in top hat and black cloak, has tied and gagged his sitter to a toy rail road track. Snydlies wife says, "Oh, how cute! Like father like son!"

Blue Man
Wednesday October 26 07:15:22 2005
Derailed
Just FYI, Jennifer Aniston will be on Larry King this Friday to promote her new movie "Derailed". Hopefully we get some previews.
ozmcgee
Wednesday October 26 07:17:14 2005
"More tea my dear?"
In a recent post I mentioned a poster campaign for tea bags featuring Dids. I just remembered another one from even further back than those. Seen all over London circa 1972 was a single poster which kinda resembled a moment from some Benny Hill comedy routine. It showed a hot young woman with shoulder length blonde hair, wearing a long frilly white dress and revealing plenty of cleavage. She was sat on a railroad embankment, sipping tea while a Snidely Whiplash type advanced on her down the slope. I don't think she was tied up except for maybe her feet. I guess you could call her a nearly Did.
On the subject of Benny Hill, didn't one of his shows feature a track tie? With his reputation for bawdy comedy involving hot young women you'd think there'd be lots.
snidely claw
Wednesday October 26 07:20:52 2005
Re: I hear that train a coming.........
Blue Man wrote:

> Glad to see there are some DIDs tied to the track lovers
> here. Here are a couple I'd love to see again:
>

In the 70s, I saw an early video by the southern rock band Black Oak Arkansas of their song "Jim Dandy To the Rescue". The video was done as an old-fashioned serial scenario with back-up singer Ruby Starr as the DiD. I recall a scene of her being tied to the tracks, possibly gagged.
This was shown on ABC's Friday night rock concert series.
I've always meant to see if it it was ever released on a BOA video.
LV
Wednesday October 26 07:23:23 2005
Re: Fun with Trains
Mad Dan wrote:

> Now I've seen just about everything! :-))

Have you seen this?
LV
http://www.tacticalminiatures.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TM&Product_Code=HST001&Category_Code=Miniatures
Wednesday October 26 08:06:32 2005
new releases -Boo
there were a couple of quickie scenes in the new horror movie "Boo."

For you Hospital restraint afficianados, the blond lead was struggling in a straight jacket for a little while and she was also seen shortly strapped down to a seat for electroshock therapy.

I'll add the DB entry tonight.
Snowcat
Wednesday October 26 08:40:35 2005
Re: Kerhop's Kaptures
Tapemaster wrote:
> The actress in that picture (from Pulp Comics "David
> Alan Grier") is Jeanne Sapienza. It's a GREAT scene!

I agree, scene is available for download at the link.
Kerhop
kerhop@oz.net
http://www.kerkap.com
Wednesday October 26 12:51:12 2005
Re: I hear that train a coming.........
There is an Ozzy Osbourne video for the song "Crazy Train" which has a BEAUTIFUL dark-haired damsel tied to the railroad tracks in 1890s clothing, with Ozzy in the role of the mustachioed, caped villain. Unfortunately she was NOT gagged. It could have been one of the all-time classic scenes. I don't know the name of the actress/model.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday October 26 13:01:02 2005
Re: I hear that train a coming.........
Tapemaster wrote:

> There is an Ozzy Osbourne video for the song "Crazy
> Train" which has a BEAUTIFUL dark-haired damsel tied
> to the railroad tracks in 1890s clothing,
>

There must be two versions of this video, because the one I just watched on YAHOO MUSIC didn't contain this scene. Still, if you like good music, it's still a kick ass video!!
Legend of the Wolf
legendofthewolf@yahoo.com
Wednesday October 26 13:05:26 2005
Re: Fun with Trains

In the 1970's cartoon series SCHOOLHOUSE ROCK, the video for CONJUNCTION JUNCTION, which takes place in a rail yard, has a scene with a cartoon damsel tied on the tracks. She is not gagged. The station master tells her to go, and she gets up and hops away.
Legend of the Wolf
Wednesday October 26 13:47:48 2005
Re: Fun with Trains
LV wrote:

>
> Have you seen this?

I have now. :-)

Nice tight gag on the kneeling damsel, non? Thanks for the link.

Though the rail-tied damsel (following the infamous putz)was introduced to the theatre on both sides of the Atlantic in the late 1860s - it's debated whether the first was in London or New York - it's likely that the idea had been around in popular action stories such as British "penny dreadfuls" and, later, American "dime novels", for some time.

By the late 1840s, when penny dreadfuls were well established, most of mainland Britain was not far from a railway, and the public was well aware of how dangerous a speeding train could be. The opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway in 1830 was marred by the fatal accident to a prominent Member of Parliament, run over by no less a locomotive than Stephenson's "Rocket."

Nobody had thought to fit a whistle or brakes; until the 1870s, on most lines an engine could be stopped only by putting it into reverse and opening the throttle! Whistles appeared very early, though, after a few more avoidable accidents on both sides of the "Pond". Railroads were proliferating almost as quickly in the eastern USA.

It surely can't have taken much effort on the part of a writer to embellish a melodramatic adventure by exposing a fair damsel to such dastardly peril as a fast-moving, almost unstoppable heavy locomotive. Trouble is, so many of these books were published that finding any example with a rail damsel today, let alone the first, would be a major research job.



Mad Dan
http://www.whitelord.ath.cx/dansdidnts
Wednesday October 26 14:27:36 2005
Re: a strange is watching
Mad Dan wrote:

> Morphy wrote:
>
> > Had another thought about Blind Witness. Why the
> short
> > hair cut ? Could it be she knew about the rap around
> tape
> > gag ? Sounds like someone really wanted it if she
> had to
> > go to that extent. LOL
>
> Yes, we discussed that recently. As a producer whose idea
> the whole film was, Victoria Principal fully intended to
> get repeatedly and convincingly gagged with tightly
> wrapped tape, hence the short razor crop.

Not true. I remember an interview with her when this movie was coming on TV and she said the short haircut was because she was playing a blind character and she felt the blind character would find short hair easier to maintain than long hair.


CD
Wednesday October 26 14:35:08 2005
Re: a strange is watching
> Actresses do not simply show up for work, get a surprise
> gag scene, and whine "Awwww.... Do I HAVE to?"

If you saw that Cameron Diaz quote that appeared here recently it sounded like she paid so little attention to the scripts she agreed to earlier in her career that her bondage scenes actually were a surprise to her, though.

Wednesday October 26 14:43:56 2005
Blue Heelers
Next week's episode might be interesting
http://www.blueheelers.org/hall/albums/promos/nextweek/008.jpg
C Dundee
http://www.blueheelers.org
Wednesday October 26 14:51:20 2005
Railroad bondage. Still the best
I don't think there can be any doubt in any one's mind that Did Railroad bondage has been the most widely recognizable form of bondage iconography of all time. buried in the psyche of everyone, not just the bondage community. Over the years it's featured in countless music videos, comedy shows, cartoons and commercials, for everything from Scrabble to Beer, wristwatches to motor cars. Ask the average guy in the street to name any number of silent movie cliches and the damsel tied to railroad tracks is bound (scuse the pun) to come up. There really ought to be more stuff out there. Damn Political correctness!
snidely claw
Wednesday October 26 14:58:10 2005
Re: Fun with Trains
LV wrote:

Get back to me re DVD material
Major John
Wednesday October 26 15:26:29 2005
Carita Pintada
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Poster: Jos
Reason: Off-topic. Ask for caps, or clips over there
The Moderator
Wednesday October 26 15:27:23 2005
Meredith Henderson
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Poster: JP
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The Moderator
Wednesday October 26 15:29:19 2005
Keep an Eye Out for Protesters
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Poster: Paco The Bandit
Reason: Politics and real life events are Off Topic on this page
The Moderator
Wednesday October 26 15:36:39 2005
Re: Railroad bondage. Still the best
snidely claw wrote:

> I don't think there can be any doubt in any one's mind
> that Did Railroad bondage has been the most widely
> recognizable form of bondage iconography of all time.

An episode of the Disney Channel original series "Even Stevens" included a scene where Ren, played by Christy Carlson Romano, was tied to miniature train tracks while Twitty, dressed in black top hat and mustache beared down on her atop the mini locomotive. No gag and scene was played to the humorous side with an instruction card attached to the ropes wrapped around her that said, "Pull here" .

perilousgirl
Wednesday October 26 16:00:13 2005
Re: I hear that train a coming.........
Legend of the Wolf wrote:

> Tapemaster wrote:
>
> > There is an Ozzy Osbourne video for the song
> "Crazy
> > Train" which has a BEAUTIFUL dark-haired damsel
> tied
> > to the railroad tracks in 1890s clothing,
> >
>
> There must be two versions of this video, because the one
> I just watched on YAHOO MUSIC didn't contain this scene.
> Still, if you like good music, it's still a kick ass video!!

You are correct. There are 2 versions of this song, each with its own video. There is one for the original studio version, and one for the live version. I think the one with the railroad track scene is from the studio version, but I am not absolutely positive.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday October 26 16:11:16 2005
Re: I hear that train a coming.........
> There must be two versions of this video, because the one
> I just watched on YAHOO MUSIC didn't contain this scene.

Crazy, I just cannot bear
I’m living with something that just isn’t fair
Ozzy
Wednesday October 26 16:37:27 2005
Re: I hear that train a coming.........
Tapemaster wrote:

> I think the one
> with the railroad track scene is from the studio version,
> but I am not absolutely positive.

I did a search for images from the video for "Crazy Train" and couldn't find anything. However, I did find this list of railroad track scenes. Click on the link.


Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
http://www.inbond10.com/railroad_tracks_scenes.htm
Wednesday October 26 17:47:41 2005
Railway Damsels
THe Baron Knights were a novelty comedy band who were big in the Uk during the late 70s/early 80s. I think around 84-85 Channel 4 gave them an hour long Xmas special which was broadcast Christmas Day.

For one of their songs "Swindon Cowboy" the accompanying video showed the band carrying a ready bound and struggling blonde damsel to the railway and leaving her on the tracks.
Can't recall much else but i seem to recall the girl in question was dressed in the traditional check shirt, short skirt and cowboy boots.
moxx of balhoom
Wednesday October 26 18:23:15 2005
Attn: Mr Filter & Handcuff Fans
Saw an interesting poster for a Hong Kong (TVB channel) show called "Misleading Track"

I've been getting timeouts trying to bring up TVB site,
but perhaps the better United States google will pick up the poster on-line?

Mr Filter you will like it
Jay L
Wednesday October 26 18:56:46 2005
Re: I hear that train a coming.........
Tapemaster;I think the one with the railroad track scene is from the studio version, but Im not positive
JA; No, the video with the babe is from the live version and it's a great video. Hott babe for sure



JA
Wednesday October 26 19:07:18 2005
Re: Railroad bondage. Still the best
snidely claw wrote:

Ask the average guy in the street to name any
> number of silent movie cliches and the damsel tied to
> railroad tracks is bound (scuse the pun) to come up.
> There really ought to be more stuff out there. Damn P.......l c..........s!

Watch your topicality thar, boy!

May it not be precisely BECAUSE it's a cliche that film-makers, not wishing to seem old hat and unimaginative, avoid using it? Plus, when you think about it, it's such a ludicrously involved and risky way to murder somebody that you can only get away with it in a spoofing light nowadays.

There are possibilities for a variation in SF, though. In "Starman Jones" by Robert Heinlein, the hero takes a short cut through a tunnel on a ballistic railroad, and narrowly misses being killed by the confined shockwaves from a supersonic "train" running unscheduled as a special.
These are actually shuttle-shaped projectiles, hurled from one tall mast-mounted magnetic ring to another at very high speeds, and crossing the USA in a few hours.

Now, if a damsel were to be left b&g in a tunnel on such a line.....
You might build tension by having alarms sound, and hearing the hum of the rings building up to full power as the train approaches, while the rescuers scramble over the (electric?)fence to get into the tunnel. Melodrama with a capital M-mmmph. :-)
Mad Dan
http://www.whitelord.ath.cx/dansdidnts
Wednesday October 26 20:17:52 2005
Re: Meredith Henderson
The Moderator wrote:

> This post was moved to The Trading Forum.
> Poster: JP
> Reason: Off-topic. Ask for caps, or clips over there

To the "JP" who had requested this cap...please pick another nickname okay?

JP
japfeif@aol.com
Wednesday October 26 20:57:25 2005
Re: Railroad bondage. Still the best
This is my favorite:
Avengers,The(Gravediggers,The)
Diana Rigg (Emma Peel)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0054518
http://brianspage.com/cgi-bin/datab/dbdr.pl?n=15
http://bindherupx.net/cgg1/dianarigg3.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net/bhuxref.htm
Wednesday October 26 21:12:57 2005
Re: Railroad bondage. Still the best
snidely claw wrote:

> I don't think there can be any doubt in any one's mind
> that Did Railroad bondage has been the most widely
> recognizable form of bondage iconography of all time.
> buried in the psyche of everyone, not just the bondage
> community....

Which begs the question: what other (if any) forms of bondage are 'buried in the psyche of everyone'?

IMHO, if you asked the average Joe or Jane on the street what they think of when they hear the phrase 'Damsel in Distress' they would respond with one of the following:

1)Princess in a tower (not necessarily bound)
2)Girl tied to the railroad tracks
3)Girl tied to a log at the ol' sawmill
4)Girl tied to a pole - dragon bait
5)Unwilling harem girl

Others?
Pofoz
Wednesday October 26 21:15:17 2005
Re: I hear that train a coming.........
JA wrote:

> Tapemaster;I think the one with the railroad track scene
> is from the studio version, but Im not positive
> JA; No, the video with the babe is from the live version
> and it's a great video. Hott babe for sure

Okay, thanks. I haven't seen it in years so I wasn't sure. Is that the one where the flying-V, polka-dot guitar is going along the train tracks?


Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday October 26 22:19:15 2005
Re: Railroad bondage. Still the best
The original book version of "The Man with the Golden Gun" (so much better than the movie with Roger Moore as James Bond) had a scene with Mary Goodnight (I believe) tied to the tracks of a railway of the sort one might find in an amusement park.
Rich McGill
Wednesday October 26 22:22:13 2005
Re: Railroad bondage. Still the best
One of my favorite examples:

Record number: 139

Title: That Girl
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Marlo Thomas

Description: Episode "7 1/4 (Part 2)" (3.7)

In another DiD commercial shoot, she is tied to railroad tracks, wearing a old-time heroine style white dress. Action occurs at the end of the episode. Ironically, the advertising campaign was canceled due to excessive violence.


Rich McGill
Wednesday October 26 23:40:53 2005
Re: Railroad bondage. Still the best
Rich McGill wrote:

> The original book version of "The Man with the
> Golden Gun" (so much better than the movie with
> Roger Moore as James Bond) had a scene with Mary
> Goodnight (I believe) tied to the tracks of a railway of
> the sort one might find in an amusement park.

We've got a new Bond & a new series of films coming out. Half the later Bond films were remakes of earlier titles. Mary Goodnight tied to the tracks? We can only hope. :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/

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