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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Monday September 12 00:23:50 2005 Firsts in Bondage story updated |
| I've made even more extensive revisions to my Firsts in Bondage article. I've redesigned it as a table, with links to the photos. There are many more listings now. Each listing provides a first mainstream bondage scene for movies and for television. There are sections for general firsts, gagged firsts, nude firsts and sex firsts. I've added articles explaining why the chart is structured the way it is, and the limitations of the chart.
I've also got an acknowledgements section citing the following folks: Honk, Tony Wood, DB, Frank J, biff barksdale, movie fan, luigi vercotti, oreanmos, Video Mayhem, Ralphus, Paulie, Jay L., Malasfan, Captain T, Greg of Greggerbits and most of all, Brian of Brian's Page. I've also got a link to Brian's Page. If anyone who contributed has been left out, please let me know. If anyone wants their name removed or changed as a contributor, please let me know. Most of all, if anyone knows of any firsts I missed or has vidcaps of any of the scenes that I don't, or spots any inaccuracies, please let me know. If anyone wants a link for their vidcaps, please let me know. I have a link to Brian's Page as well -- Brian, if you want the link removed and all references to your page removed, please let me know. The page does not yet have any links from my site, so this is a "preview" that give you the chance to look at it before it's open to the general public. That's why the links to the vidcaps are not yet operational. Check out the homepage link for a link to the site. |
| Pat Powers |
| bondagerotica@yahoo.com |
| http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/firsts/firstschart.html |
| Monday September 12 01:51:52 2005 Re: Firsts in Bondage story updated |
| Pat Powers wrote:
> I've made even more extensive revisions to my Firsts in > Bondage article. > There are sections for > general firsts, gagged firsts, nude firsts > > I've also got an acknowledgements section citing the > following folks: > Jay L. Pat, go through your tapes for one marked: Crimes en série, Ep: "Le Disciple" Reason being, you have "None" marked in "Nude Hogtie" Television. (Though you have my name in aknowledgements?) Way recall, awhile back you'd posted how you doubted there would ever be a nude hogtie-cleave gag scene on a TV show. Very glass half empty attitude there. Only a few days or so later that ep aired here. For laughs, told the fellas you getting it, but didn't tell you. Figured it would be a nice little suprise in the mail. But, looks like the suprise ruined huh? Oh well ;) |
| Jay L |
| Monday September 12 02:16:52 2005 Re: Firsts in Bondage story updated |
| On that page, you wrote "Bastinado" when you meant "Strappado".
Bastinado is the use of a stick, club, truncheon of cudgel used to beat the feet. Strappado is the position you erroneously listed as bastinado. |
| Yasi |
| Monday September 12 04:49:10 2005 Sin City, extended |
| Having been in the military during a war, and having served in a war zone, I firmly believe that the right to carp or complain is allowed, within reason. Did ya ever notice how when some guy snaps and blows away 14 members of his own family, all the neighbors say "He was so quiet." or "He never had a harsh word to say about anybody."
Carping when you're pissed off about something is a great stress reliever. And when your steam valve has been uncorked you are a whole lot less likely to be bringing a SWAT team down on your quiet block. With all that said, I am a certified comic fan, and a certified Sin City fan long before most of the world had heard of it. I had read the comic and seen the drawings where the character who would end up being played by Jessica Alba in the movie was bound AND gagged. Then, while I was waiting for the movie to come out, I read interviews that mentioned how they were being so faithful to the drawings that when a scene was filmed, and somebody pointed out that in the comic, the trenchcoats were flapping in the opposite direction.. well, they reshot it. So you can count me still, after prolly watching the movie 20 times, and loving it each time, totally confused as to how Robert and Frank could just leave the detail of a gag out of Jessies scene. Any other movie based on a comic or book and it would be an "oh well..damn!" but this one will confuse me to my grave if I never hear a reason.. ANYHOW folks.. the reason for this diatrabe..besides wanting to wave hi to our Frank.. knowing he would have gagged Jess also, and prolly bitch slapped Rodriguez for even thinking of leaving the gag out.. me, I would have gotten fired I would have raised such a stink and been holding Robert while Frank got his hand sore.. is to mention that the extended version of Sin City is coming out Dec. 13th. May..beee there will something there for us.. the extended version is 23 minutes longer than the theatre version, plus there is a ton of extended info for these rascals to try and explain themselves. Whatever, it is, IMHO, a terrific movie. Joel Segal had the best review. He said.."There are some scenes in "Sin City" that are going to be too violent for some folks. Then there are all the rest of the scenes that are going to be too violent for everybody!" ROFLMAO.. and damned if he isn't right. Anyhow, for those of you who like the movie, or those of you, including me, who are hoping past hope that there might be something in the unedited version that has Jessica Alba gagged as well as bound.. here is the url with all the info on what is going to be on the disc.. http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=8561 Take it away, Frank!! |
| David Knight |
| http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com |
| Monday September 12 05:24:39 2005 Tied and True Tales updated |
| Spring? Doesn’t feel like it – We’re getting one last blast of winter this week… (not that you’ll catch me complaining since my rainwear is copping plenty of use! Better still, the good old Saints are in the preliminary final, just one win away from going through to the Grand Final! (telling Priscilla, our roo mascot, to cool it has pretty much proved well nigh impossible so far) Anyway, today brings another three stories for your reading pleasure -–“Curiosity Killed the Cat”, describing how I introduced my partner to the joys of bondage… along with more great fiction from Rohana and a true story about pony training from Pony girl Kim!
As usual, check out the Updates page to find out what’s new at http://www.restrainedtastes.com/ttt |
| mason |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/ttt |
| Monday September 12 06:20:57 2005 Re: Firsts in Bondage story updated |
| > Most of all, if anyone knows of any firsts I missed or has vidcaps of any of the scenes that I don't, or spots any inaccuracies, please let me know.
---- Strap-in butt plug (Movie): Carolyn Lowery in "Vicious Circles" (1997). Granted, because it was an "R" video there's no actual insertion-scene, but it's clear from how the scene is played as well as the movie's dialogue before and after the interrogation scene where the viewer is to "assume" the device is to be. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday September 12 09:40:15 2005 freebound |
| does anyone know why freebound has not been running for two weeks or so? they used to come up with some new and exciting sites on damsels in distress. |
| saddlebags |
| Monday September 12 09:50:57 2005 VCR alert: La Consentida |
| Just saw a promo for upcoming week ("Esta Semana")of "La Consentida" on Telemundo at 10AM ET showing a good looking girl sporting a white cleave gag.
What would be the proper method of putting into the VCR Alert page since the date is not sure? |
| Caesar |
| Monday September 12 11:56:10 2005 Re: Great improv scenes |
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> > Ms. Jackson inadvertently discovers the identity of the > arsonist, who subsequently overpowers her, and uses the > electrical cord from a lamp to bind her to a sofa. I see you used the word "overpowers" --Is she knocked out in this scene? |
| gytalf2000 |
| Monday September 12 13:19:37 2005 Re: Firsts in Bondage story updated |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
Strap-in butt plug: Actually, not something I'd consider bringing out on a 'first' date (well, I would - but some might be offended ....) |
| Major John |
| Monday September 12 13:24:05 2005 Re: Great improv scenes |
| > I see you used the word "overpowers" --Is she
> knocked out in this scene? "What are yooo doooing wiz zat gun??" |
| Monday September 12 14:04:24 2005 Re: VCR alert: La Consentida |
| Caesar wrote:
> Just saw a promo for upcoming week ("Esta > Semana")of "La Consentida" on Telemundo at > 10AM ET showing a good looking girl sporting a white > cleave gag. > > What would be the proper method of putting into the VCR > Alert page since the date is not sure? Wow! Thanks for the heads-up Caesar. This one sure paid off. The DiD is very young and pretty. Looks to be in her 20s. She gets a nice handgag in the first 5 minutes of the episode while her boyfriend is being chloro'd. Later, she's shown sitting on the bed (fully clothed unfortunately) with her wrists bound to the bedposts and gagged with duct tape. The bad guy's sympathetic girlfriend (who's also pretty) removes the tape and starts to untie her hands. In atypical soap fashion, the bad guy comes back in and stops her. In the last 10 minutes, she again showed still tied to the bed, but this time she's cleave-gagged. The episode ended with one of the bad guys kissing on her while she moans and whimpers into her gag. Lots of nice closeups. There will most likely be more tomorrow. The curious thing is this soap does not appear to be on Telemundo's national feed (for those on Satellite), so if you don't get Telemundo locally you may be out of luck. |
| MadFish |
| Monday September 12 14:50:46 2005 Re: Cold Case? |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Did anyone catch "Cold Case" on CBS tonight? It > was the season finale from last year. A killer pulls a > gun on Kathryn Morris and says "time to head to the > woods" as they faded out. It was 9 p.m. and I > thought it was a cliffhanger until I realized after it > was off-time because of tennis. Anyone catch this finale > or the original broadcast? Nothing happened to her. He brought her to some remote location and just talked with her. It's possible her wrists were bound in front, and possibly tied to something. But the scene was so unremarkable (and lacking a gag) that I didn't even think about posting. I normally post anti-alerts, but for whatever reason I didn't this time. I should have, to spare people checking out the re-broadcast. |
| KEVIN |
| Monday September 12 15:31:17 2005 Re: Great improv scenes |
| gytalf2000 wrote:
> > > > > > Ms. Jackson inadvertently discovers the identity of > the > > arsonist, who subsequently overpowers her, and uses > the > > electrical cord from a lamp to bind her to a sofa. > > > I see you used the word "overpowers" --Is she > knocked out in this scene? Perhaps I shouldn't have used this term. I don't recall there being a physical altercation. I believe he coerced her into being bound and gagged through the use of implied force. She was laughing nervously as he pulled the electrical cord from a lamp; in the subsequent scene, she was tied to the sofa, and gagged with electrical tape. |
| Hadji |
| Monday September 12 16:17:12 2005 Re: Cold Case? |
| KEVIN wrote:
> Nothing happened to her. He brought her to some remote > location and just talked with her. It's possible her > wrists were bound in front, and possibly tied to > something. But the scene was so unremarkable (and lacking > a gag) that I didn't even think about posting. Thanks. I figured nothing happened, and I never watch that show, just caught it on a fluke flipping thru channels. At least the character saw some danger last year. Perhaps something will develop this season. With ABC shows doing well on Sundays, perhaps "Cold Case" will get a little more dramatic and start putting the lead in some peril. |
| Monday September 12 16:21:20 2005 Re: Great improv scenes |
| Hadji wrote:
> Perhaps I shouldn't have used this term. I don't recall > there being a physical altercation. I believe he coerced > her into being bound and gagged through the use of > implied force. She was laughing nervously as he pulled > the electrical cord from a lamp; in the subsequent scene, > she was tied to the sofa, and gagged with electrical tape. Actually, tied to a chair with the electrical cord from the lamp after Sabrina blows her cover. Complete details/analysis and caps of the scene at the link. She sat in the chair after the bad guy pulls a gun and says "sit down or I'll kill you." |
| http://www.screencapsules.com/ |
| Monday September 12 17:43:57 2005 Re: Lots of handcuffed girls on stage |
| Peter de K wrote:
> I bet many of you would have liked to watch the > presentation of the designer label "Imitation of > Christ" during the New York fashion week. They came > up with the idea to send their models on the catwalk in handcuffs. Sad there is no picture of the end of the show. Typically they have all the models come out at once. BTW, did anyone else think that the cuffs are not all the same, some seem to have more links in the chains than the others if you look carefully. |
| Monday September 12 18:16:33 2005 Re: Great improv scenes |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Hadji wrote: > > > Perhaps I shouldn't have used this term. I don't > recall > > there being a physical altercation. I believe he > coerced > > her into being bound and gagged through the use of > > implied force. She was laughing nervously as he > pulled > > the electrical cord from a lamp; in the subsequent > scene, > > she was tied to the sofa, and gagged with electrical > tape. > > Actually, tied to a chair with the electrical cord from > the lamp after Sabrina blows her cover. Complete > details/analysis and caps of the scene at the link. She > sat in the chair after the bad guy pulls a gun and says > "sit down or I'll kill you." > http://www.screencapsules.com/ My recollection is apparently imperfect regarding this scene. No Angel would be so compliant with a villain's orders without offering some physical resistance, unless he displayed a firearm. She did laugh nervously; of this I am positive. I do recall that, after she was bound and gagged in the chair, the villain lamented having to kill her, because, as he put it, "whoever you are, you're very pretty." I perused the Website with pictures of this scene, and read the description as well. It states that this was the first time one of the Angels was bound and gagged. As I recall, the only other Angel to be bound and gagged was Shelley Hack. Can anyone account for this paucity of full treatment scenes for the stars of a crime drama series? |
| Hadji |
| Monday September 12 18:50:26 2005 Re: Great improv scenes |
| > More bondage at the improv...
---- In the first "Ginger" (1971) movie, Ginger fought with an upstart, then after pinning her, used the defeated beach babe's bikini to tie her wrists and ankles. Or, as drive-in movie critic Joe Bob Briggs would describe the scene: First bimbo-fu, then stripper-fu, and finally bondage-fu!" |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday September 12 18:55:01 2005 La Consentida |
| The Spanish soap opera "La Consentida" can be found on the Telefutura network not Telemundo as was previously stated. |
| "Original" Bill |
| Monday September 12 19:14:15 2005 Hand gags in Music Video |
| Hi there
I'm a long time reader, sometime contributor to this fine site. This message is for the latter... I was surprised that no one mentionned this videoclip I just saw a few minutes ago. The group is called "Metric" and the song is "Monster Hospital". In it, there are at least 3 seperate scenes of the lead singer, a pretty good looking girl, being more or less securely hand gagged. Unfortunately, the video is all black and white and I'd guess all the scenes together add up to only 15-20 seconds but its still something. Well, that was my contribution. Till next time! |
| Jackal |
| jackaldod@hotmail.com |
| Monday September 12 19:49:44 2005 Re: Great improv scenes |
| Hadji wrote:
... It states that this was the first time one of the Angels was bound and gagged. As I recall, the only other Angel to be bound and gagged was Shelley Hack... _____________________________ Charlie's Angels(Angel Hunt) Shelley Hack (Tiffany Welles) http://imdb.com/title/tt0073972 http://brianspage.com/cgi-bin/datab/dbdr.pl?n=44 This was one of my holy grails. loved her pretty feet in those sandals tied with ropes around her ankles. |
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| Rich |
| bindherupx@yahoo.com |
| http://bindherupx.net/otm1/otm1.htm#6 |
| Monday September 12 19:53:48 2005 Re: bad track records |
| Hadji wrote:
>Can anyone account for this paucity of full > treatment scenes for the stars of a crime drama series? A couple come to mind. Stephanie Zimbalist was never B&G in 4 infuriating seasons of "Remington Steele" and Tia Carerre was never B&G (although tied up just about every other week) in three seasons of "Relic Hunter." A bit of a stretch since "Baywatch" wasn't a crime drama series, but only early lifeguards Nicole Eggert and Erica Elaniak were B&G, nothing in the final 7 or 8 seasons with any of the lifeguards. |
| Monday September 12 20:44:40 2005 Re: Firsts in Bondage story updated |
| Major John wrote:
> Actually, not something I'd consider bringing out on a > 'first' date (well, I would - but some might be offended > ....) Crikey - done a double on THAT one. MJ's humorous take on the matter (always fun) is about as far as I'd wager to comment about this matter - figure better things to discuss. |
| Monday September 12 23:02:38 2005 Tonight's "Bourbon Street Beat" |
| Was anyone paying attention to "Bourbon Street Beat" just now on American Life Network (formly GoodLife)? I had it running in the background and at the end where they catch some guy on tape confessing to murder, there was a quick shot of what might have been a blond woman strapped to a table and gagged. I could be wrong since I was more interested in digging through the drawer for a cotton swab.
Episode is "Mrs. Viner Vanishes" and it repeats at 1am Eastern. |
| G-MaN |
| gman22471@yahoo.com |
| http://www.geocities.com/gman22471/118.html |
| Monday September 12 23:52:51 2005 Re: La Consentida |
| "Original" Bill wrote:
> The Spanish soap opera "La Consentida" can be > found on the Telefutura network not Telemundo as was > previously stated. Yes, thanks for the correction. I spotted the promo just minutes before the show was to start and I rushed the info here. Glad to see that it did pay off today. Also, last night's La Madrasta special paid off big time, extended scene in the last half hour of the blonde. The girls looked much better in this special than the regular show and it appears they even brought in 2 new hot girls. Wish this had been the lineup the whole time. |
| Caesar |
| Monday September 12 23:53:29 2005 Re: La Consentida |
| "Original" Bill wrote:
> The Spanish soap opera "La Consentida" can be > found on the Telefutura network not Telemundo as was > previously stated. Thanks; but after a google search (Telefutura launched by Univision) couldn't find the station in NY and is not on Direct TV (not on my system anyway). Could original poster say where this station can be found? Thanks. |
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