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Monday December 03 00:16:21 2007
Desperate Housewives -- Sun Dec 2
No bondage (as usual) on tonight's episode of "Desperate Housewives. However, there is a scene that some of you may be interested in. A woman (not one of the regular characters) is in a dentist's office having work on her teeth done. She has dental equipment in her mouth and she is unable to talk. The dentist is the character played by Kyle MacLachlan. During the scene, Teri Hatcher comes in and talks to the dentist.

Also, the politician character that is married to "Gabrielle" (Eva Longoria) came looking for her with a gun, but all he found was "Carlos" (Gabrielle's ex-husband whom she is currently cheating on her new husband with). Later on, the politician and Carlos fight. Hopefully, this will be leading up to a scene for Eva Longoria some time in the future.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Monday December 03 00:20:51 2007
Re: Desperate Housewives -- Sun Dec 2
Tapemaster wrote:

> No bondage (as usual) on tonight's episode of
> "Desperate Housewives.

The setup has been excellent for a scene for Longoria for a couple seasons, but they just can't finish it right.
Monday December 03 00:24:16 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Not to question anyone's tastes (we're all different) but
> are postings and discussions of fakes really appropriate
> for the Discussion Forum?

This is a good question. I've been mulling it over. I have
thought about requiring those to go over to Trade.

Opinions?

The Moderator
Monday December 03 00:32:18 2007
Larry the Cable Guy's Christmas Spectacular
Just saw an ad for this new holiday epic, and there was the quickest flash of an attractive brunette with her hands tied in front, gagged with a white knotted cleave, mmmphing nicely. No idea who she is or why she's B & G.

The show's on VH1 this Tuesday, Dec 5th, at 9pm Eastern time. I've got kind of a slow connection tonight, so I haven't checked it all out yet, but there's a large photo gallery, and some previews, here:

http://www.vh1.com/shows/series/larry_the_cable_guy/splash.jhtml?source=hp_today
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.jebsadventurebound.net
Monday December 03 00:35:38 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
The Moderator wrote:

>Opinions?

I don't much mind, but they did seem pretty off-topic for me.

My only real concern is that those non-bondage pics might be making it tough for folks on slow connections. I'd say Trades, if anywhere.
Jeb
Monday December 03 00:55:59 2007
Re: Larry the Cable Guy's Christmas Spectacular
Update on the DiD here- haven't found anything definite, but from the cast list, I'm guessing it's an actress named Molly Murphy.
Jeb
Monday December 03 01:05:36 2007
Re: Does anyone know of any of the following authors has DiD's in them?
AP wrote:

> I went to the bookstore the other day. I was wondering if
> any of the following authors have DiD's in their novels
> in them:
> Dennis Lehane
> Jeffrey Deaver
> Ed McBain
> Elmore Leonard
> Robert B. Parker
> Robert Ludlum
> If any of these authors have bondage scenes in them, I
> really appreciate it very much. Thank you.

Ed McBain and Robert B. Parker have both written several novels that feature female characters bound and gagged.
Hadji
Monday December 03 01:09:52 2007
So long Knotbusters
Doug, we hardly knew ye. Good luck and thanks!
John Quincannon
Monday December 03 01:53:24 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
I don't think so because they often lead to tangents.
Cohen
Monday December 03 02:09:37 2007
Re: Requests
New Guy wrote:

>I just want to see Jenna
> Fischer Gagged, and I don't think it's gonna really
> happen for a while, if ever. So if anyone could help with


Here's my best shot. And sorry to all those who don't want these here.



http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc63/dsman24/fischer-1.jpg
dsman
palaceandmain@gmail.com
Monday December 03 06:18:49 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
Cohen wrote:

> I don't think so because they often lead to tangents.

How is a photo manip made by a guy on his own computer and posted on Brian's page or a commercial bondage web page be considered "mainstream"? Might as well start allowing bondage in real life videos and pics. Exception would be one done by a "mainstream" company like EW magazine.
che
Monday December 03 07:19:28 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
The Moderator wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Not to question anyone's tastes (we're all
> different) but
> > are postings and discussions of fakes really
> appropriate
> > for the Discussion Forum?
> This is a good question. I've been mulling it over. I
> have
> thought about requiring those to go over to Trade.
Opinions?


IMHO after a little mulling over myself.
Technically
"Fakes" are just our attempt at creating mainstream scenes with mainstream actresses that haven't actually been made out in the main stream (manohman if we could only stock that stream with some damsel in distress fish we'd be golden).
I personally don't mind it and if the rest of the crew thinks its cool for the forum then why not.
One concern I have though...
Is there any way a page or a "faker" can get in trouble (legally) for having/posting/creating such an image???
Snowcat
Monday December 03 08:07:48 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
Just wanted to say sorry for assisting (I was second to ask on discussion page. lol) in causing a stir, but also, thank you very much for the links and pics of Jenna Fischer.
New Guy
mydidaccount@yahoo.com
Monday December 03 10:11:14 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips

> Cohen wrote:
> How is a photo manip made by a guy on his own computer
> and posted on Brian's page or a commercial bondage web
> page be considered "mainstream"? Might as well
> start allowing bondage in real life videos and pics.

I always found this little 'hobby' of theirs a little creepy
Certainly not anything to do with following television or movies for their possible scenes.
Not mainstream IMHO.



Monday December 03 10:34:31 2007
Re: Cloth Gags
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Steed wrote:
> > What's best - packing, tight cleave or tight OTM?
> Tight OTM looks and works best.

Rubbish.

OTM becomes a cleave if I just open my mouth a few times. Second, a couple of layers of cloth have little effect.
Anna
Monday December 03 11:14:33 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
New Guy wrote:

> Just wanted to say sorry for assisting (I was second to
> ask on discussion page. lol) in causing a stir

I think if the Mod had had a problem with your request, or anyone else's, he'd have made that very clear-- he's not shy that way. He's just soliciting opinions on the topic right now.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.jebsadventurebound.net
Monday December 03 11:17:27 2007
Hitman
Dire film includes a blink & you'll miss it (literally) shot of Olga Kurylenko tied arms abve head and being whipped. whole thing can't last more than a couple of seconds at most

Slight compensation in the dialogue later in the movie, Olga asks the hitman what he keeps in his suitcade. He tells her his gun (specifying type and accessories) and ' a gag for use on talkative women Should i get it out now'
"I don't know" she replys smiling "Do we have time for foreplay"
Other than that the film misses at least 2 opportunities.
By the way was Olga Kurylenko the girl in bondage in the French film Le Serpent?
Moxx of Balhoom
Monday December 03 12:52:06 2007
Re: Cloth Gags
Steed wrote:

> What's best - packing, tight cleave or tight OTM?
Best of course is all three, one carefully applied after another. But if it's going to be a worthwhile gag, packing is pretty much non-negotiable.

Monday December 03 12:55:08 2007
Re: Cloth Gags
southbound wrote:


> First you pack the mouth, then you apply the cleave gag
> and finish it off with the OTM.
> southbound
Sorry southbound - should have read further and seen that you had it 'Covered.";)

Monday December 03 13:03:23 2007
Le Serpent
By the way was Olga Kurylenko the girl in bondage in the French film Le Serpent?

http://www.majorjohns.com/serpent.rm
http://www.majorjohns.com/req_23.jpg
Monday December 03 13:15:33 2007
Amar sin limites alert?

Hallbird posted an alert for tonight for AMAR SIN LIMITES, which is greatly appreciated. But according to my digital guide, tonight they will be airing DESTILANDO AMOR from the 8-9:30 p.m. slot, then resuming with AMAR at its regular time on Tuesday. Can anyone confirm one way or the other?
Monday December 03 13:25:31 2007
Re: Requests
Leah Remini. Could you make it so she's tied to a chair, with tight jeans...while still making it so she has those nice boobs of hers.

Monday December 03 16:12:13 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
The Moderator wrote:

>over to Trade.

>Opinions?

Over to Trade, definitely.



Monday December 03 17:05:39 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> The Moderator wrote:
> >over to Trade.
> >Opinions?
> Over to Trade, definitely.

My two pennies: FotoFakes are no more intrusive than the *very* occasional wish-list, random speculation about which show or movie has the most potential, whether one style of gag is "better" than another, etc. The key, as always, is *moderation*, in both senses:

(1) Restraint on the part of posters (those who post?). A really good manip, once in a great while, is nice. A constant barrage of requests and ho-hum efforts in response is boring.

(2) Which brings us to the arbitrator of topicality: "Mr. Moderator". He'll rein things in if (when) they get out of hand, like always.

We were promised a *little* latitude, and that's what makes this forum interesting.
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Monday December 03 17:26:24 2007
Yoon So Yi & [Re: Beating the "Nerd" Trap] ;)
In General for the board:
done alittle digging on Yoon So Yi, (a cutie), and have some favoured titles. Say we one step away from an ID. From "????" Which will help you get it when it reappears on Yootoob.
Top favoured: "Auction House" for search.

Remember, Yootoob can delete, but we have multiple DIDConn Smythe, DIDHart & DIDArt Ross winner Brian R here! ;)
Jay L
Monday December 03 17:47:17 2007
Re: Yoon So Yi & [Re: Beating the "Nerd" Trap] ;)
> Remember, Yootoob can delete, but we have multiple
> DIDConn Smythe, DIDHart & DIDArt Ross winner Brian R here! ;)


Should add.
After some tests on the Yootoob search, figure the problem you guys are having is you're searching on "Japanese", "Japanese TV", or "Korean TV". It appears any "Japanese", "Korean", or japanese words even brings up all those (nerdy white guys?) lecturing on cultures, or whathaveya

Suggest, search on "MBC", or "NHK". Doing that, I avoided those "trappers"
A "Yoon So Yi" & "MBC" search brought up two soaps, with the "Auction House" more favourable plot to the described clip. Try that.

Btw: If anyone does catch? Let know on corrections as have enough for an entry.

*Yootube can delete and (nerd guys?) can line up on the blue line and trap all they want, but they can't stop our vaunted Brians offence! ;)
Jay L
Monday December 03 18:06:07 2007
New movie: Poughkeepsie Tapes (moved from The Video Page)
I posted it in the Video section. There's a scene from a new movie called the Poughkeepsie Tapes. This isn't my cup of tea but this was on youtube.com It's the video tapes of a supposed serial killer. The movie appears to shot like The Blair Witch Project.

This is too disturbing for me. It's in the
Viking
Monday December 03 18:39:20 2007
Latina damsel
Great scene from majorjohns from soap called Rote Rosen. OMG, what a beautiful damsel, even with a little blood on the forehead. Obvious regaggings here as the gag changes multiple times.

Had to make a few caps of this beauty.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5540/soapdamsel6dl3.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1747/soapdamsel5dk6.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/747/soapdamsel4sf9.jpg
Monday December 03 18:40:17 2007
3 more caps
Latina damsel
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2641/soapdamsel3cn7.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/53/soapdamsel2aa1.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7313/soapdamsel1na2.jpg
Monday December 03 19:10:09 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
I've been a little concerned myself at the proliferation of requests for fakes on this forum. When I started on the Internet, IIRC the Moderator used to delete images posted by readers wanting manips based on them; there seems to have been a shift in policy of late.

Or was it just guys asking for fakes of their girlfriends that got nixed? No sensible faker would touch that sort of thing anyway.

I think the Trades section is a better place for celebrity requests, though I don't often remember to go there, and I'm pretty well occupied with other work for the next few weeks at least. It's good to see other people take up the baton, so to speak. Very nice work, dsman - but why didn't you "tie" her hands?

The question of whether or not a fake is "mainstream" seems to me to hinge on the source image; is it a publicity pic or screen shot of a mainstream actress or model doing what she is normally paid to do, or something shadier?

My manips aim to simulate how the lady might appear in a comedy sketch or light-hearted thriller. In fact, some of those I have faked went on to have scenes in just that kind of role. I don't see how faking such scenes is any "creepier" than collecting clips or caps from actual scenes. The addition of violence, nudity or sexual activity is quite another matter, and way off topic for me.

The method of production also bears on topicality. A modification of a complete existing image to simulate bondage by moving limbs, altering perspective and adding accessories (or even a complete new background or costume)is quite different from a mainstream celeb's head transplanted with varying degrees of success onto a commercial model's body. That is, by definition, off topic for this forum, and is the kind of fake that brings complaints and "cease and desist" orders. I haven't heard of any of us "mainstream" fakers getting such complaints - yet.

Anyway, with no violence intended or implied it's a kind of tribute, an act of admiration. Nowadays, with an increasing emphasis on the classic melodrama peril scenario, I enjoy the technical challenge, but rarely get any kind of erotic charge out of it.
Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Monday December 03 19:16:17 2007
Re: Latina damsel
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Great scene from majorjohns from soap called Rote Rosen.

Part of this scene is up at Youtube, but I didn't see the rest of it. The link is on the Video page.


Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Monday December 03 19:57:44 2007
Re: Yoon So Yi & [Re: Beating the "Nerd" Trap] ;)
> A "Yoon So Yi" & "MBC" search
> brought up two soaps, with the "Auction House"
> more favourable plot to the described clip


Haha, Score!

It was that "Auction House". Apparently airing on US channel "MBC America"

Raffy's world tally: South Korea = 11

Thanks for assist you guys
Jay L
Monday December 03 21:38:38 2007
Why they show people tied up when there are none
This post was deleted.

Poster: zarchaic
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Monday December 03 21:40:28 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
Mad Dan wrote:

> It's good to see other
> people take up the baton, so to speak. Very nice work,
> dsman - but why didn't you "tie" her hands?

Because I would probably ruin it if I tried to do that. My photoshop skills are very limited. Plus, I'm more of a fan of taping the mouth than I am of bondage in a sense. If that makes any sense.


dsman
palaceandmain@gmail.com
Monday December 03 22:19:04 2007
Heroes
Turned over around the 25' mark, guy was dumping gas around will the black girl had her hands tied with a white cord (phone maybe).

Westerners be aware, I didn't see when it started but she was not restrained at the 50'.
civil
Monday December 03 22:43:18 2007
Re: Fakes / Manips
dsman wrote:
>I'm more of a
> fan of taping the mouth than I am of bondage in a sense.
> If that makes any sense.


Reply in Trades forum.
Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Monday December 03 23:02:07 2007
Re: Amar sin limites alert?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Hallbird posted an alert for tonight for AMAR SIN
> LIMITES, which is greatly appreciated. But according to
> my digital guide, tonight they will be airing DESTILANDO
> AMOR from the 8-9:30 p.m. slot, then resuming with AMAR
> at its regular time on Tuesday. Can anyone confirm one
> way or the other?

Sorry about that didn't realize they were running DESTILANDO'S finale in a two hour block today. Apparently the scene will show up tomorrow when the AMAR resumes. Should check to see if it will air at the same time it normally does. Sometimes when a new telenovela starts it bumps an old one to a new time period. Also it's possible the new one could start with a two hour premiere.
hallbird
Monday December 03 23:05:13 2007
ROTE ROSEN
The above is definetly not a telenovela and the damsel is not a latina. It's a European soap of German origin I think, but it's definetly not a telenovela,
hallbird
Monday December 03 23:10:12 2007
RE;FAKES/MANIPS
As far as I'm concernd they are a definete no/no for me. It's like me imagining someone being gagged. It's no substitute for the real thing. But hey if it works for you more power to you, but I don't think this is the place for them.
hallbird

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