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Tuesday January 01 01:53:45 2008 Raffish DiDClips updated |
Back from vacation with the first member and guest updates of the new year. Enjoy... |
Raffish |
raffish@bondageparade.com |
http://www.bondageparade.com/ |
Tuesday January 01 02:35:52 2008 Re: New interesting |
John wrote: > Okay, what *is* this? Could you please ID it, because I > didn't see the forst post Please make use of the search form for such questions. I don't want people repeating posts that are there for you to find with a little effort. |
The Moderator |
Tuesday January 01 04:12:50 2008 As if all the turmoil and tragedy that 2007 brought us were not enough... |
...we must, sadly, also take note of the passing of seventeen actresses with scenes in our database, along with many others at least peripherally involved with creating them. We can, though, take comfort in the fact that in most cases they left us after long, full lives and stellar careers, even if their contributions here amounted perhaps to only a scene or two. Clearly Jane Wyman, who died September 10, perfectly fits that description. While her give-and-get duet with contemporary Ellen Drew in 1942's "My Favorite Spy" and her part in the ensemble scene in "Make Your Own Bed" two years later may seem a pittance measured against her decades of work on both the large and small screens, it should be remembered that many more revered actresses of her era gave us NOTHING, even throughout longer careers. On a lighter note, it's still something, in my view, to contemplate that she's the only former wife of a President with a scene, unless Nancy Davis did something before she changed her last name that hasn't made its way into the database. And it's curious that unlike Katharine Hepburn, Wyman allowed questions about her exact age to follow her into the hereafter. She would have been 90 if the birthdate the IMDb lists for her is correct, but many other sources-which were largely relied upon in news reports of her death-gave it as three years earlier. However, I couldn't help but give Wyman the last word, when I saw this quote from her Best Actress Oscar acceptance speech: "I won this award for keeping my mouth shut, so I think I'll do it again now." (She won for 1948's "Johnny Belinda," in which she played a deaf mute.) Many may be disappointed that Yvonne DeCarlo, who passed away January 8 at 84, also left us only two scenes-"The Desert Hawk" in 1950 and "Sea Devils" in 1953-despite her turn as the female lead in "The Munsters" years later. In her defense, it should be remembered that her opposite number in the creepy-sitcom wars of the 1960s-Carolyn Jones of "The Addams Family"-isn't in the database at all. And it's too bad that Barbara McNair apparently only managed a single tieup in a 1968 guest appearance on "The Jerry Lewis Show" despite going on to have a variety show of her own, but she deserves note as one of the first black actresses with an American television scene. McNair was 72 when she died February 4. Let us not dwell upon the ongoing tragedy that was the life of Anna Nicole Smith, nor the circumstances of her passing on February 8 at 39; let us simply note her scenes in 1995's "Skyscraper" and AMC's series "N.Y.U.K." in 2000, and pray that she has found peace. And we should also wish the same for Da-bin Jeong, in the database for a scene from the Korean TV series "Non Stop." Her death at 26 on February 10 was listed as a suicide. Johanna Sallstrom, with a scene from the Swedish series "Wallander" to her credit, was only 32 when she was found dead February 13. The IMDb doesn't say how or why she died. Gauging the contribution of Betty Hutton, who passed away March 11 at 86, is somewhat difficult. While many consider her biographical turn as Pearl White in 1947's "The Perils of Pauline" a disappointment that her other two scenes-in "Red, Hot and Blue" two years later and her television variety show a decade after that-didn't make up for, it should be remembered that in her heyday she was a musical comedy star more than anything else. Few actresses of her era who also shared her specialty have database scenes. The genre just didn't lend itself to them. Alice Backes, tied up in a 1984 episode of "Knight Rider," died March 15 at 83. Char Fontane's one scene was in a 1981 "Nero Wolfe" episode. She was 55 when she passed away April 1. As often as the name of Mala Powers has been mentioned here, it might surprise some to learn that she has only three scenes in the database-"Flight of the Lost Balloon" from 1962, and episodes of "Wanted Dead or Alive" in 1958 and "The Man from U.N.C.L.E." in 1965. She died June 11; she was 75 according to the IMDb, but news reports listed her as a year older. Laura Devon, with a scene in the short-lived 1966 series "T.H.E. Cat"-which at least one other person besides me remembers, apparently, although I never watched it-died July 19 at 76. Loretta King, who depending on her birthday was 89 or 90 when she passed away September 10, scored her database entry in an Ed Wood movie-1955's "Bride of the Monster." One hopes that with the resurgence in Wood's popularity she was able to take some pride in that in her later years. And if getting it six times in a TV series that if memory serves lasted only a year if that long-"Captain Nice" from 1967-qualifies an actress for the Hall of Fame, make room for Alice Ghostley. She also racked up a database entry for a 1961 "Car 54, Where Are You?" episode. Ghostley died September 21 at 81. While Lois Maxwell, who was 80 when she passed away September 29, is immortalized here for lending her voice to a pair of scenes from the 1960s puppet-action series "Stingray," she will of course be better remembered by the rest of the world as Moneypenny in the first 14 James Bond movies. Having never read any of Ian Fleming's novels myself, I've always been curious; is Moneypenny a character in them and does anything of interest to us happen to her? Might have been a bunch of missed opportunities there. German actress Marion Michael, credited with scenes in two of what appear to be a series of three movies in which she played a recurring character-"Liane, Jungle Goddess" from 1956 and "Jungle Girl and the Slaver" the following year-died October 13 at 66. Deborah Kerr, yet another Hollywood heavyweight whose damselography consists of only a couple of scenes ("Quo Vadis" in 1951 and "Naked Edge" a decade later), was 86 when she passed away October 16. And Evelyn Hamann, star of the German TV series "Adelheid und ihre Mörder," died October 29 at 65, leaving us a scene from a 2003 episode. As always, there were other luminaries whose creative efforts resulted in or helped spawn database entries whom we lost this past year. The most prominent director, of course, was Ingmar Bergman ("The Seventh Seal," 1957), who died July 30 at 89. Other directors who passed away in 2007 included Stuart Rosenberg, who helmed 1975's "The Drowning Pool" with Gail Strickland and "Let's Get Harry" in 1986 with Elpidia Carrillo (although he took an "Alan Smithee" credit for that one), who was 79 when he passed away March 15; Bob Clark, who directed Kim Cattrall's gagged-but-not-bound scene in 1982's "Porky's" and Jaime Pressley in "The Karate Dog" in 2004 and died April 4 at 67; and a writer/director who may not have been in Bergman's league but scored four times as many database entries-Andy Sidaris, to whom Cynthia Brimhall ("Hard Ticket to Hawaii," 1987), Dona Speir ("Savage Beach," 1989 and "Hard Hunted," 1992), and Hope Marie Carlton (also of "Savage Beach") owe their enduring fame. Sidaris, who also directed Phyllis Davis in 1990's "Guns," was 76 when he passed away March 7. Writers who died in 2007 whose works are reflected in the database include Sidney Sheldon, who wrote and produced "Memories of Midnight" (1991, Jane Seymour), and is credited with creating both "I Dream of Jeannie" and "Hart to Hart" and who died January 30 at 89; Charles B. Griffith, who wrote the screenplay for "Flesh and the Spur" (1957, Marla English), and is also listed by the IMDb as an uncredited cast member of 1987's "Eating Raoul" in which Mary Woronov had a scene, and who was 77 when he passed away September 28; and Ira Levin, author of "Rosemary's Baby," the movie version of which featured Mia Farrow's pioneering spreadeagled rape scene and almost certainly at least helped to inspire "The Exorcist." Levin died November 12 at 78. We should also perhaps note here the passing of animator Iwao Takamoto, the creator of "Scooby-Doo," on January 8 at 81, and of noted cinematographer Laszlo Kovacs, who was lucky enough to have been behind the camera for both Jessica Lange's Oscar-nominated performance in 1982's "Frances" and Susan Sarandon's laudable work in "Copycat" in 1995. Kovacs was 74 when he died July 21. Several actors who either played characters that lent themselves to database scenes or just happened to be around when an actress got it are among this year's obituaries. By any measure muscleman Gordon Scott, who died April 30 at 80, would have topped both categories. There's no other way his filmography could have accounted for nine scenes-"Tarzan's Hidden Jungle" (1955, Vera Miles), "Tarzan and the Lost Safari" (1957, Betta St. John and Yolande Dolan), Tarzan's Greatest Adventure" (1959, Sara Shane), "Maciste alla corte del Gran Khan" (1961, Helene Chanel),"A Queen for Caesar" (1962, Pascale Petit), "Il Figlio della Sceicco" (1962, unknown), "Goliath e la schiava ribelle" (1963, possibly Ombretta Colli), "Hercules vs. the Molock" (1963, Alessandra Panaro), and last but not least, 'Hercules and the Princess of Troy" (1965, Diana Hyland and an unknown). Other actors whose work was of particular interest to us included Tige Andrews, who was 86 when he passed away January 27, and who played the unforgettable Captain Greer of "The Mod Squad," which featured its equally unforgettable female lead Peggy Lipton in five of its seven scenes; Ian Richardson, who died February 9 at 72 and who as Sherlock Holmes in the 1983 British TV version of "The Hound of the Baskervilles" had the pleasure of rescuing Beryl Stapleton in the person of Glynis Barber; Barry Nelson, the first actor to play James Bond on either the large or small screens (in a 1954 "Climax!" episode derived from Ian Fleming's "Casino Royale" in which Linda Christian is credited with a scene), who was 89 when he died April 7; Dabbs Greer, the gravelly-voiced prison guard who helped strap Susan Hayward into the gas chamber at the end of her Oscar-winning performance in 1958's "I Want to Live!" (Him: "When you hear the pellets drop, count ten. Take a deep breath. It's easier that way." Her: "How do YOU know?"), who died April 28 at 90; and Robert Goulet, who was 73 when he passed away October 29, and was no doubt eternally grateful to have left more than those awful snack commercials and his having tied up Priscilla Presley in "The Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear" in 1991 for us to remember him by. There are at least a couple of other people whom I feel at least merit some mention here, even if their connection to our interests is somewhat tenuous. Having taken note of Mia Farrow's groundbreaking "Rosemary's Baby" scene above, it should be noted that someone associated with a film containing a similar yet more brutal scene that the earlier movie also no doubt spawned-Delores Taylor's in 1971's "Billy Jack"-passed away this year. Bong Soo Han, the Korean Hapkido martial arts master who choreographed Tom Laughlin's fight scenes, died January 8 at 73. And what would you say that Barbara Eden, Terry Moore, and Jeanne Cooper all have in common-besides the obvious? If you haven't guessed, don't bother rushing off to the database; all three of them got it on the classic Western series "Rawhide." I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that those of you who knew that right off started humming that theme song to yourselves, didn't you? Well then, tip a glass to singer Frankie Laine, who was 93 when he passed away February 6. In addition, we should offer our condolences to database damsels Sophia Loren and Angelina Jolie. Carlo Ponti, who discovered and then married Loren, and went on to produce films with three of her scenes, died January 10 at 94. Jolie lost her mother, actress-producer Marcheline Bertrand, to cancer on January 27 at 56. And although Robert Adler, who was 93 when he died February 16, never snapped a clapboard while sitting in a director's chair, nor recited a line of dialogue while sneering at a well-trussed actress, or perhaps never even hustled as a script courier or pushed a broom across a movie or television production set, he is definitely someone we should all tip a glass to, even if you have to set down your remote first-a problem you might not have were it not for him. You see, he and co-inventor Eugene Polley devised the first television remote control-the ultrasound-operated Zenith Space Command-half a century ago. America might be somewhat less obese if they hadn't, but it's a safe bet the database would be a bit thinner as well. Finally, let us pay homage not to a person who has passed from the scene, but to a thing that will on February 1, as announced last Friday-the Netscape Web browser. Anyone not old enough to remember when "the Internet" was a synonym for "text" can simply never appreciate what a godsend this was-especially for the likes of us. Am I the only one here who recalls dialing into a server running Lynx and then trying to pull up alt.sex.bondage via Michigan State's Gopher-to-news gateway (and does anyone remember its name)? Get on your knees and give thanks tonight, youngsters. You'll never know how blessed you are. As we hope for a better New Year for ourselves and the world, let us also hope that the gifts bequeathed by those named above continue to serve as inspiration for the heirs of their legacy. |
An Old Friend |
Tuesday January 01 05:50:47 2008 Re: As if all the turmoil and tragedy that 2007 brought us were not enough... |
An Old Friend wrote: As we hope for a better New Year for ourselves and the world, let us also hope that the gifts bequeathed by those named above continue to serve as inspiration for the heirs of their legacy.<<< No actress gives the world a lasting gift or makes a "contribution" simply because she shows up for an acting gig, has a piece of tape put over her mouth as part of the job, and then goes home to cash her check. We don't contribute to the history of plumbing because we sh*t in a toilet. It's nice that all the dead folks in this post have given you something ot think about, but it's a personal thing, not a contribution to the advancement of world culture. It's a personal fetish most other people don't share, not a cure for cancer. We are all adults on this site (I guess) so we should keep all of this in perspective and keep a sense of humor about what we are trying to accomplish by being here. We don't have an actual relationship with anyone that has given us fodder for a Wednesday night. Of course, do whatever you want-- if you want to count down the days until Stephanie Powers' birthday or take off from work on the 40th anniversary of the "That Darn Cat" scene, feel free to do whatever. But in general, for most people, simple mental health requirements would suggest that we just shouldn't take all of this so seriously. |
Sigh. |
Tuesday January 01 08:20:37 2008 Re: As if all the turmoil and tragedy that 2007 brought us were not enough... |
Sigh. wrote: I dont understand what are you doing here |
Mandrake |
Tuesday January 01 09:14:04 2008 Late Alert: Mientras Haya Vida |
I'm sorry for posting so late, but the scene I am referring to might go on in the next days. In the telenovela "Mientras Haya Vida", during the VERY last days of the old year (episode/capitulo 174), series' regular character "Ofelia" (beautiful Latina Mayra Sierra) is kidnapped and tied sitting on a bed, cleave-gagged with a black cloth, then her head is hidden under a black sack; the scene could go on for a while... The information stemmed - once again - from the very valuable Dreambook of Lazoslatinos, and I found a Youtube link as well (I'm gooing to post it on the Video Page). |
New Year's Guest |
Tuesday January 01 12:41:37 2008 Gossip girl possibility |
I saw a promo saying the next 2 episodes will be very dramatic, and everything will change. The clips look very dramatic with the girls and promising. So just to keep a look out tomorow at 9est on CW. |
The Instant Classic |
Vjmhollywood@yahoo.com |
Tuesday January 01 14:09:22 2008 Re: Raffish DiDClips updated |
This post was deleted. Poster: (unsigned poster) Reason: Abusive. |
The Moderator |
Tuesday January 01 14:10:25 2008 Re: Raffish DiDClips updated |
This post was deleted. Poster: Ice Cream Man Reason: Don't reply to abusive posts. Please see the FAQs. |
The Moderator |
Tuesday January 01 16:23:26 2008 Re: Late Alert: Mientras Haya Vida |
New Year's Guest wrote: > I'm sorry for posting so late...[SNIP] ...but the scene I am referring to might go on in the next > days. In the telenovela "Mientras Haya Vida", "Ofelia" is > kidnapped and tied sitting on a bed... Hey bro...appreciate the head's up, but on these Latin shows, we REALLY need to know the time & channel (Univision, Telemundo, telefutura, etc.). I checked the alerts page & there wasn't one, so can you please post where we can find this show? many thanks, RR |
rob-roy |
Tuesday January 01 16:32:30 2008 Re: Late Alert: Mientras Haya Vida |
rob-roy wrote: > Hey bro...appreciate the head's up, but on these Latin > shows, we REALLY need to know the time & channel > (Univision, Telemundo, telefutura, etc.). Heh...yeah, even TiVo wasn't helping on this one in my area, though I also appreciate the notice. |
Raffish |
Tuesday January 01 16:32:42 2008 Re: Late Alert: Mientras Haya Vida |
New Year's Guest wrote: > I'm sorry for posting so late, but the scene I am > referring to might go on in the next days. In the > telenovela "Mientras Haya Vida"... Station? Time? Day? |
Captureher |
Tuesday January 01 16:52:33 2008 Capital One commercial |
Since I do not think anyone else has mentioned this: There are a series of Capital One commercials going to pitch their "design your own card" feature. These commercials feature megalomaniacal villains gloating over how they now have the power to design their cards. One of these ads features a Bond/Dr. Evil type of villain in an underground lair. There is an attractive female heroine behind him with her wrists tied with rope above her head, suspended in the air. She declares "You will never get away with this!" in time-honored fashion. Only two quick shots of this; the second shot shows her swinging in the air, and the next shot has her land on her feet, completely untied. All very silly of course. |
WWS |
Tuesday January 01 17:37:30 2008 Re: I found a cool video game scene |
Captureher wrote: > Jute wrote: > > Kanaan wrote: > > > Theres a scene in Def Jam Fight For New York on > > > > playstation 2 . Carmen Elektra is one of the > selectable > > > g/friends who ends up getting kidnapped ... > > This reminds me of one of my favorite videogames, > Final > > Fantasy 7. There's a scene where the heroine is > strapped > > to a chair and you have to do a certain series of > moves > > to get her free. I was just making her struggle but > not > > get loose for quite awhile.... > I'm curious; how are the graphics in these games? By > mentioning carmen elecktra, does it really look like her > or just 'says so on the box' and her audio so to speak? > I've avoided these games knowing I'll spend way too many > hours playing Carmen (and all for that matter do their own voices) Her likeness is such that you wont feel gypped by taking a look . Besides, when else have we seen her sexiness elevated with duct tape ? Never. |
Kanaan |
Tuesday January 01 17:51:58 2008 Re: I found a cool video game scene |
Captureher wrote > mentioning carmen elecktra, does it really look like her > or just 'says so on the box' and her audio so to speak? Carmen (and all for that matter do their own voices) . Someone has set this up on the video page ? Besides, when else have we seen Carmen's sexiness elevated by a strip of duct tape which is always a winner ? Never. |
Kanaan |
Tuesday January 01 17:59:10 2008 Late Alert for One Tree Hill |
Over on the Soap Channel, the prom episode where Peyton is tied up starts at 4:00pm Pacific Time. |
Tuesday January 01 19:16:12 2008 Re: Raffish DiDClips updated |
This post was deleted. Poster: Stephanie Reason: What in the goddamn hell? |
The Moderator |
Tuesday January 01 19:16:23 2008 ashlee simpson-rock the vote |
This post was moved to The Trading Forum. Poster: number 1 Reason: Off-topic. |
The Moderator |
Tuesday January 01 19:16:50 2008 Re: Raffish DiDClips updated |
This post was moved to The Trading Forum. Poster: waag Reason: Tech questions -> Trade. |
The Moderator |
Tuesday January 01 20:29:27 2008 World Magic Awards possible scene |
The opening of the World Magic Awards which started at 8 pm EST had a teaser in which they announced that female magician Mai Linn from Veitnam was going to be sealed in something while it is set on fire. Now, if she follows the pattern set by male magicians, she'll also be tied up, chained and/or cuffed (but probably not gagged). We'll see. Still hasn't happened. The show is airing on a station called "MyATL" and it's a repeat, so I'm not even sure it's part of network that will be available in other cities. Hey, what else is there to watch? The Sugar Bowl? Surely we all know who's gonna win that one. |
Pat Powers |
Tuesday January 01 21:12:57 2008 Re: World Magic Awards possible scene |
Pat Powers wrote: > Now, if she follows > the pattern set by male magicians, she'll also be tied > up, chained and/or cuffed (but probably not gagged). > We'll see. Still hasn't happened. OK, she's cuffed at the wrists and ankles to chains which presumably secure her inside a flaming bus of the type generally used to ferry people from casino to casino on the strip. They cut away while the bus flamed and still haven't come back. Started at AROUND the 55 minute mark, if you're interested. She isn't gagged, wears a motorcycle helmet and a jumpsuit, so not all that sexy in terms of attire. They've missed every other chance at bondage so far, and there have been a couple. |
Pat Powers |
Tuesday January 01 21:23:11 2008 Benedetta Valanzano |
I found a pic of this girl on the net. |
paolo |
Tuesday January 01 22:11:02 2008 Life On Mars Season 2 Scene |
I think the scene happened this evening. My digital television guide gave no hints that the episode about the kidnapped mother and daughter would run today on BBCAmerica. Fortunately, the episode will repeat tonight at midnight Eastern and 9pm Pacific and then two more times next week on BBCAmerica. I will set my DVR and be prepared this time around. |
Nite Owl |
Tuesday January 01 22:25:21 2008 Re: Life On Mars Season 2 Scene |
Nite Owl wrote: > I think the scene happened this evening...the episode about the > kidnapped mother and daughter...Fortunately, the episode will repeat tonight at midnight Eastern and 9pm Pacific and then two more times next week on BBCAmerica.... ...I just watched 'The Scene' on BBC-America's version that ran at 6:00 pm on the West Coast. It pops up in the last 10 minutes, just as the delightful WPC [editorial comment: Now SHE shoulda been the one to taste ropes..Whatta Cutie!!] enters a garden shed in the back yard of a suspect, only to discover the kidnapped mother & daughter. |
Overlooker |
Tuesday January 01 22:55:41 2008 Re: World Magic Awards possible scene |
Pat Powers wrote: > female magician Mai Linn from Veitnam was going to be > The show is airing on a station called "MyATL" > and it's a repeat, so I'm not even sure it's part of > network that will be available in other cities. MyATL is what those "Mynetwork" stations that are scattered thorough out the country. |
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