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| Thursday January 17 01:32:07 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| John wrote: > Okay, it's the new year, so let's have a list of > "bests" for the old year, the way you always > see in newspapers and such. > What are the best scenes on DVD for 2007? Vanessa Marcil in "Las Vegas" and Jessica Biel in "Next" would be my top two picks. |
| Thursday January 17 02:30:46 2008 Re: Jan 14 Prison Break scene |
| Liberal moron wrote: > The political garbage we sometimes see here makes sense > if we can respond, which is unlikely to be allowed. Sometimes a joke is a joke, but I will delete it. |
| The Moderator |
| Thursday January 17 02:32:23 2008 Re: Jan 14 Prison Break scene |
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| The Moderator |
| Thursday January 17 04:37:42 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| John wrote: > What are the best scenes on DVD for 2007? Let's have a > list that are considered must-see. Can be either brand > new release for 2007 or first time on DVD for something > older, just something we haven't seen before. Grr..you just had to ask, didn't you? Okay, here are a few nominees for the old, the new, the good, the bad, and the "I Know Who Killed Me" after browsing this year's list of Region 1 releases and re-releases (which just might have an interesting extra or two, after all). No editorial opinion expressed or implied. 52 Pick-Up Bad Manners Best Laid Plans Blind Witness The Bone Collector Cat People Dark Corners Deja Vu Demons From Her Past Dexter: The First Season Disturbia Dr. Giggles Dr. Moreau's House Of Pain Drawing Blood Drive Thru Eaten Alive Flower & Snake (1974) * From Beyond Ghoulies IV Goonies The Hamiltons The Hitchhiker Hostel: Part II I Know Who Killed Me Joy Ride Karla Lightspeed Live Once, Die Twice Malicious Maniac The Mask My Little Pony: A Very Pony Place (most overlooked scene ever! just kidding) Natural Born Killers Next The Nightcomers Once Bitten (w/Vampire's Kiss) Re-Animator The Return Of Dr. Mabuse The Rival Saw III Species Thr3e Turistas Wrong Turn When a Killer Calls Wolf Creek * aka "Hana to hebi." I wasn't aware until now that the 2004 "sure it's mainstream, wink wink, nudge nudge" bondagefest (see link for caps) was not the first film to be made from this book, but the IMDb confirms it. I'm curious as to how it might have been tackled 33 years ago. Anyone got the scoop? |
| Raffish |
| http://bondageparade.com/search.cgi?title=flower |
| Thursday January 17 05:54:23 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| The best television scene for 2007 has to be Holly Hunter's "Saving Grace" scene. I mean, nude, spreadeagle, lengthy, well lit scene, lots of visitors to see her all naked and bound ... nothing else is even gonna come close. |
| Pat Powers |
| Thursday January 17 07:27:40 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Pat Powers wrote: > The best television scene for 2007 has to be Holly > Hunter's "Saving Grace" scene. Yep...that one was amazing, especially for basic cable. But damn, I wish there had been a gag! |
| Thursday January 17 09:33:57 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Pat Powers wrote: > The best television scene for 2007 has to be Holly > Hunter's "Saving Grace" scene. If you nominate your own personal favourite scene, which some of us would avoid like the plague, as "the best", are you not setting yourself up as the ultimate arbiter? If so, on what basis? |
| Mad Dan |
| Thursday January 17 10:09:51 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Mad Dan wrote: > Pat Powers wrote: > > The best television scene for 2007 has to be Holly > > Hunter's "Saving Grace" scene. > If you nominate your own personal favourite scene, which > some of us would avoid like the plague, as "the > best", are you not setting yourself up as the > ultimate arbiter? > If so, on what basis? Because of all of the elements present. A big-name actress, completely nude, shown in both closeups and full-body shots (with leisurely camera-work), humor, bondage shown consensual and playful, a long scene, and all on a basic cable show for Pete's sake! I'd call myself a gag snob, and that element was missing, but still I concur with Pat - the "Saving Grace" scene pretty much has to be considered as the best of TV, definitely for this past year and in the discussion as one of the best ever. Rob, long-time lurker and occasional alert-poster |
| Thursday January 17 11:00:34 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Mad Dan wrote: > > Pat Powers wrote: > > > The best television scene for 2007 has to be > Holly > > > Hunter's "Saving Grace" scene. > > If you nominate your own personal favourite scene, > which > > some of us would avoid like the plague, as "the > > > best", are you not setting yourself up as the > > ultimate arbiter? > > If so, on what basis? > Because of all of the elements present. Many people dislike some of the elements present, particularly the nudity. Remember that nude images are not allowed on this page. There are many Yahoo! Groups dedicated to fully-clothed DiDs, some with thousands of members; a fair proportion of those members would not be interested in the scene you describe. We Brianspagers are tens of thousands of individuals, each with his or her own likes, dislikes and indifferences. I think it arrogant and discourteous to assume that all readers of this page share all your interests to the exclusion of others, and to address them as if they should. Courtesy requires only the little words "I think", or "In my opinion." |
| Mad Dan |
| http://www.dansdidnts.com |
| Thursday January 17 11:08:29 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Raffish wrote: > John wrote: > > What are the best scenes on DVD for 2007? Let's > have a > > list that are considered must-see. Can be either > brand > > new release for 2007 or first time on DVD for > something > > older, just something we haven't seen before. > Fall Guy: SS1 (two scenes found in the 6/2007 DVD release) Wrong Turn 2: Dead End (not great) Rush Hour 3 |
| civil |
| Thursday January 17 11:10:34 2008 Betty in handcuffs 2 night |
| All new Ugly Betty tonight on ABC has America Ferrera, as Betty, in handcuffs. I know a lot of you think America Ferrera is hot, she's too young fer me, but will the fact that she's under all that make up ruin it for you? I remember when Vikki Lawrence got bound and gagged on Mama's Family. Vikki was a hottie but that old lady make up kind of ruined it for me. |
| Lou |
| Thursday January 17 11:18:55 2008 Game Show in Mexico circa 2001 |
| Childrens game show with cheerleaders cheerleading on the contestants. In the final round, the constestants have to answer questions and the cheerleaders literally cloth gag themselves for like five minutes in order to give no secrets away. A jem. Anyone know anything about this show or where to find it. I was in the Montnerrey region and the show aired sometime around 11:00am-4:00pm. Any help? |
| Thursday January 17 13:02:26 2008 Re: Jennifer Lopez will be gagged |
| Too bad she wasn't part of the Fly Girls in that 'In Living Color' episode where the dancers were bound and tape-gagged in a closet |
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| Thursday January 17 13:28:33 2008 Maria Bello - naked - tied to bed hands over head - Downloading Nancy 2008 |
| You can view a trailer here: http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/01/16/sundance-trailers-goliath-bottle-shock-downloading-nancy/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411323/ |
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| Marco |
| Thursday January 17 14:29:40 2008 Mason's website |
| Anyone know the weblink for Mason's website? He used to notify us with updates on his website in this forum, but he hasn't in a while, and I don't seem to have his web address. |
| Ed K. |
| expletive_deleteded@yahoo.com |
| Thursday January 17 16:05:36 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Mad Dan wrote: > Many people dislike some of the elements present, > particularly the nudity. Remember that nude images are > not allowed on this page. "Nude images aren't allowed to be posted on Brian's Page" has absolutely nothing to do with the merits of nudity in a scene. The images aren't banned because they somehow invalidate a scene, but because Brian determined that he doesn't want such images posted on his page. > There are many Yahoo! Groups dedicated to fully-clothed > DiDs, some with thousands of members; a fair proportion > of those members would not be interested in the scene you > describe. And any of those is certainly entitled to debate the merits of a scene based on their viewpoint - as I did. My interests hold no less weight than theirs. > I think it arrogant and discourteous to assume that all > readers of this page share all your interests to the > exclusion of others, and to address them as if they > should. Who is assuming that? I stated my position in agreement with Pat Powers' assertion that the "Saving Grace" scene is the best TV scene of the past year. If you disagree, great, come out and make your argument (and better yet, counter-proposal for another scene) - don't accuse me (and/or Pat, not sure of your target here) of trying to speak for everyone on the board. > Courtesy requires only the little words "I think", or "In my opinion." Wouldn't it also be courteous not try to read far too much into a message board post? It's not too much of a stretch to believe that "I think" or "In my opinion" is assumed when someone posts to a topic dealing with the best scenes of the year. Going through this post to reply, I get the feeling that maybe I stepped in the path of something personal. If that's the case, sorry - I just wanted to talk about what I thought was a great scene. Rob, going back to lurking |
| Thursday January 17 16:47:27 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| > Many people dislike some of the elements present, > particularly the nudity. Prefer something like cheerleader costumes |
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| Thursday January 17 16:52:55 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Pat Powers wrote: > > The best television scene for 2007 has to be Holly > > Hunter's "Saving Grace" scene. > Yep...that one was amazing, especially for basic cable. > But damn, I wish there had been a gag! Yeah, that might have made it Bestest Scene Ever. That and maybe a more voluptuous damsel. Vida Guerra, for example, would have worked well in that particular tie. Doubt if she could have acted well enough to carry the scene, though. |
| Pat Powers |
| Thursday January 17 17:41:40 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Pat Powers wrote: > The best television scene for 2007 has to be Holly > Hunter's "Saving Grace" scene. I mean, nude, > spreadeagle, lengthy, well lit scene, lots of visitors to > see her all naked and bound ... nothing else is even > gonna come close. Sorry, I don't remember seeing this at all, or ever seeing a screencap or anything? Was it even mentioned here, I do check here everyday? Was there a gag? What channel or show was it on? What was it about? Thanks. |
| Thursday January 17 17:49:53 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Pat Powers wrote: > Yeah, that might have made it Bestest Scene Ever. That > and maybe a more voluptuous damsel. Vida Guerra, for > example, would have worked well in that particular tie. > Doubt if she could have acted well enough to carry the scene, though. A shame that Laura San Giacomo's character wouldn't have a reason to find herself in that scene. |
| Thursday January 17 17:50:36 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Pat Powers wrote: > > The best television scene for 2007 has to be Holly > > Hunter's "Saving Grace" scene... {Snip} > Sorry, I don't remember seeing this... {Snip} ...What was it about? Thanks. Yeah, pity Brian's doesn't have a Scene Database... oh, wait! :-) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Thursday January 17 17:52:07 2008 Best of 2007 list |
| > My Little Pony: A Very Pony Place Are you serious? This isn't in the database. What is the scene? |
| Eric |
| Thursday January 17 18:17:10 2008 Re: Mason's website |
| Ed K. wrote: > Anyone know the weblink for Mason's website? Not sure this fits as on-topic so I posted his website link on the Trades Page. |
| detroitdave |
| Thursday January 17 18:30:35 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Mad Dan wrote: > > Many people dislike some of the elements present, > > particularly the nudity. Remember that nude images > are > > not allowed on this page. > "Nude images aren't allowed to be posted on Brian's > Page" has absolutely nothing to do with the merits > of nudity in a scene. The images aren't banned because > they somehow invalidate a scene, but because Brian > determined that he doesn't want such images posted on his > page. It does show that they offend enough people, whomever and wherever, for it to be an issue. > > There are many Yahoo! Groups dedicated to > fully-clothed > > DiDs, some with thousands of members; a fair > proportion > > of those members would not be interested in the > scene you > > describe. > And any of those is certainly entitled to debate the > merits of a scene based on their viewpoint - as I did. My > interests hold no less weight than theirs. Of course. All are equal here. Debate is one thing, while statement of a very specific personal opinion as undeniable fact is quite another. > > I think it arrogant and discourteous to assume that > all > > readers of this page share all your interests to the > > > exclusion of others, and to address them as if they > > should. > Who is assuming that? Here is Pat's sweeping statement, made without any concession to its being simply an opinion: "The best television scene for 2007 has to be Holly Hunter's "Saving Grace" scene. I mean, nude, spreadeagle, lengthy, well lit scene, lots of visitors to see her all naked and bound ... nothing else is even gonna come close." You or the initial respondent are apparently assuming that I questioned the substance of the assertion, when in fact I was asking what made Pat assume he was an ultimate arbiter, of taste or whatever. > Wouldn't it also be courteous not try to read far too > much into a message board post? It's not too much of a > stretch to believe that "I think" or "In > my opinion" is assumed when someone posts to a topic > dealing with the best scenes of the year. Fair point, and I apologise to anyone my remarks may have offended. It was obviously an opinion, and I just bridled at the phrasing. I still do not see, though, how nudity or otherwise can be a criterion of bondage. They are separate concepts, aren't they? > Going through this post to reply, I get the feeling that > maybe I stepped in the path of something personal. Probably personal to a lot of people. I get plenty of correspondence from DiD fans who prefer to "keep it clean". >If that's the case, sorry - I just wanted to talk about what I thought was a great scene. Your opinion is respected, Rob. |
| Mad Dan |
| http://www.dansdidnts.com |
| Thursday January 17 18:33:28 2008 Re: Jennifer Lopez will be gagged |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Too bad she wasn't part of the Fly Girls She was one of them. |
| doug |
| doug5759@yahoo.com |
| Thursday January 17 18:35:27 2008 Re: Jan 14 Prison Break scene |
| The Moderator wrote: > Liberal moron wrote: > The political garbage we sometimes see here makes > sense if we can respond, which is unlikely to be allowed. > Sometimes a joke is a joke, but I will delete it. Not to argue but I am curious: I can understand deleting the off topic political comment, but was the use of "Liberal moron" an off topic political embellishment of a quote meant as an insult (to the original poster of the comment) or the name of an actual poster? |
| Captureher |
| Thursday January 17 19:34:53 2008 Re: Jennifer Lopez will be gagged |
| doug wrote: > (unsigned poster) wrote: > > Too bad she wasn't part of the Fly Girls > > She was one of them. Not in that scene, she wasn't. She is still gag-less. |
| H |
| diddvd@yahoo.com |
| http://www.diddvd.com |
| Thursday January 17 19:36:19 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Mad Dan wrote: > (unsigned poster) wrote: > > Mad Dan wrote: > > > Pat Powers wrote: > > > > The best television scene for 2007 has to > be Holly Hunter's "Saving Grace" scene [SNIP]. > I think it arrogant and discourteous to assume that all > readers of this page share all your interests to the > exclusion of others, and to address them as if they > should. > Courtesy requires only the little words "I think", or "In > my opinion." (eye roll) When Pat said "this scene HAS to be the best scene in all of 2007" (or however he worded it), I think it's safe to assume that it was his opinion & not a written in stone fact, and I think you oughtta chill on that one. Just because he didn't say "I think" or "in my opinion", or whatever, we all knew (oops! I better say "I THINK we all knew"!!!!) that it obviously WAS his opinion, and I think you're getting all bent out of shape for basically nothing. Believe me, there are enough legitament things to get your feathers ruffled about said on these message boards without creating mountains out of molehills. Sheesh, the things that get people going these days! |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Thursday January 17 19:57:34 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Van wrote: > Yeah, pity Brian's doesn't have a Scene Database... oh, > wait! :-) Figure Van follows decent teams, but if you're like Zinger & myself though, the Database is a great place to calm yourself after sqwacking at the TV. Why quite familiar with it. Try some time As a matter of fact, I think I'll go try to ID some Hong Kong stuff right now, correct Zinger? ;) |
| Jay L |
| Thursday January 17 19:58:44 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Van wrote: > Yeah, pity Brian's doesn't have a Scene Database... oh, > wait! :-) > http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ Doesn't explain why no one ever (or hardly) talked about it here or why there were no caps or pics or why it may be "best scene of the year." You see only her back and there was no gag? That sounds boring, sorry. Usually, when there is a good scene you hear and see a lot about it here, that's kind of what I was asking, the scene database is not good for that kind of opinion or explanation. My guess is lack of a gag makes it a non keeper for a lot of people. |
| Thursday January 17 20:08:32 2008 Re: Maria Bello - naked - tied to bed hands over head - Downloading Nancy 2008 |
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| The Moderator |
| Thursday January 17 20:12:21 2008 Re: Jan 14 Prison Break scene |
| Captureher wrote: > was the use of > "Liberal moron" an off topic political > embellishment of a quote meant as an insult (to the > original poster of the comment What do you think? Is that the sort of thing I would do? |
| The Moderator |
| Thursday January 17 20:16:10 2008 VVV Update |
| I've updated the Van's Vidcap Vault with vidcaps and Van's riveting comments for: The Fall Guy (Mary Crosby), It Happened at Nightmare Inn (Judy Geeson), The 10th Kingdom (Kimberly Williams), King Kong (Fay Wray), and Bloodhounds II (Amy Yasbeck). These particular selections were updated to the original VVV site the week of September 14, 2001, and can still be seen there (in all their bandwidth-restricted glory) at http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/5205/didcaps.html |
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| Pofoz |
| http://www.pofoz.com/did/vvv/didcaps.html |
| Thursday January 17 20:22:14 2008 Question - bed tie scene |
| I can't remember the name of this sort of recent film, but someone here knows it I'm sure. A girl is handcuffed to a bed spreadeagled during sex, and the guy doesn't let her go for 3 days. She's in a motel room and is a speed junkie I think. Her mouth and eyes have duct tape over them. The guy leaves the room with her bound, turns on a CD for her, and when he closes the door the player starts skipping into infinity, much to the captive's shagrin. What is the movie? |
| skezemuth |
| Thursday January 17 20:38:11 2008 Re: Question - bed tie scene |
| skezemuth wrote: > What is the movie? Spin. |
| The House of Le Bastard |
| Thursday January 17 20:38:44 2008 Re: Question - bed tie scene |
| > What is the movie? ---- Sounds like Chloe Hunter in "Spun" (2002). |
| Kinky-napper |
| Thursday January 17 20:48:42 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Mad Dan wrote: > If you nominate your own personal favourite scene, which > some of us would avoid like the plague, as "the > best", are you not setting yourself up as the > ultimate arbiter? Well, I am the ultimate arbiter of my own personal opinion. I figure that's the way people come to a consensus -- everyone speaks up for their fave, and why it's their fave, and other people speak up and that way you either develop a consensus or come to the conclusion that it's not possible to do so. I figure that it's pretty much understood that on a message board, everyone is expressing their personal opinions. How could I presume to say what other people would like? I think "Saving Grace" is the best scene, but I'm under no illusion that anyone else must share my opinion. That's why I offered supporting statements for why I liked it, so others could see where I'm coming from. > If so, on what basis? Well, I like to be called "Sex God, King of the Universe," but I have to admit, I'm having trouble coming up with a consensus for that title, in the sense that I'm the only one who thinks it works for me. |
| Pat Powers |
| Thursday January 17 20:53:41 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Mad Dan wrote: > Here is Pat's sweeping statement, made without any > concession to its being simply an opinion: *snip* *shrug* I agree with the sweeping statement, you don't...therein lies fodder for discussion. > at the phrasing. I still do not see, though, how nudity > or otherwise can be a criterion of bondage. They are > separate concepts, aren't they? Nudity isn't a criterion for bondage, but we're (or at least I am) talking about the entire scene here. I think that a big part of why the nudity in this scene is a big deal is that it's on frickin' basic cable. When I saw the previews for the episode, I figured "oh great, they probably just showed most of the scene right there." But where I was expecting tight closeups of Holly's face and maybe the occasional shot of the bonds at wrists and ankles, there were multiple wide shots of her entire body, not to mention the ones of her lover writing with lipstick on her butt. Anyway, this wasn't just some gratuitous nude scene either - it fit squarely with the behavior of Holly Hunter's character for the entire series. Grace, while very likely not into the bdsm lifestyle, obviously enjoys kinky sex and definitely switches between roles. So I'll echo Pat's statement - this has to be the best TV scene of the year. In my opinion of course, and even though there were some scenes that I enjoyed other aspects of more. If we were handing out trophies award-show fashion, this one would likely take home the hardware. Rob |
| Thursday January 17 21:46:42 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Sorry, I don't remember seeing this at all, or ever > seeing a screencap or anything? Was it even mentioned > here, I do check here everyday? Was there a gag? What > channel or show was it on? What was it about? Thanks. It was mentioned on this page, an alert reader posted about it before it aired, that's how I caught it. No gag. Screencaps at the homepage link. And you should definitely check here every day. You never know what you'll find out about. Like, have you SEEN what the Luna Brothers are up to lately? |
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| Pat Powers |
| http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/saving_grace/savinggracehunterbondage.html |
| Thursday January 17 21:50:33 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Van wrote: > > Yeah, pity Brian's doesn't have a Scene Database... > oh, > > wait! :-) > > http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ > Doesn't explain why no one ever (or hardly) talked about > it here or why there were no caps or pics or why it may > be "best scene of the year." You see only her > back and there was no gag? That sounds boring, sorry. > Usually, when there is a good scene you hear and see a > lot about it here, that's kind of what I was asking, the > scene database is not good for that kind of opinion or > explanation. My guess is lack of a gag makes it a non > keeper for a lot of people. As I recall, at the time it first aired, we talked the hell out of it. A star like Holly Hunter naked and cuffed to a bed on primetime TV? ...OF COURSE it was talked about. Raffish has the video in two parts in his members' area (URL below), but the title DiD-caps are free. http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/SavingGrace-Language-Part1.jpg http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/SavingGrace-Language-Part2.jpg |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.bondageparade.com/index.html |
| Thursday January 17 22:37:26 2008 Re: Best of 2007 |
| Van wrote: > As I recall, at the time it first aired, we talked the > hell out of it. A star like Holly Hunter naked and > cuffed to a bed on primetime TV? To Van and Pat, thanks for the links to pics. I swear, I check this page everyday and have for years and I have no recollection of this scene ever being discussed nor have I ever heard about it, nor have I seen any pics on any vidcap site. Makes me wonder what else I missed this year. |
| Thursday January 17 23:42:48 2008 Re: Jennifer Lopez will be gagged |
| H wrote: > doug wrote: > > (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > Too bad she wasn't part of the Fly Girls > > > > She was one of them. > Not in that scene, she wasn't. I would have bet money she was one of them. I have that scene somewhere, if i can find it, but I guess it is a case of "actress creep" or some other phenomenon |
| doug |
| doug5759@yahoo.com |
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