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| Saturday February 16 00:02:11 2008 Re: The Tonight Show |
| Tapemaster wrote: > a blonde named Kristin Chenowith I spelled her name wrong. The correct spelling is Kristin Chenoweth. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Saturday February 16 00:40:42 2008 The writers' strike is over |
| From what I've heard, the writers' strike is over. Get ready for more soap opera passing itself off as real drama, more ensemble casts with a character to represent every demographic group, more "flashbacks" in order to provide "character motivation" (and pad out the hour), more politically correct propaganda, more law enforcement characters acting like they are experts on human psychology, more episodes about serial killers, more VERY unfunny jokes, and more LOST opportunities to have beautiful women bound and GAGGED. Yet the networks wonder why less and less people are watching primetime network television. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Saturday February 16 00:42:08 2008 Re: Jumper |
| I'm almost dying to know if she gagged in any way. even a hand gag. |
| Saturday February 16 00:58:50 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
| Tapemaster wrote: > From what I've heard, the writers' strike is over. Get > ready for > more LOST > opportunities to have beautiful women bound and GAGGED. Also, get ready for more episodes of "Law and Order", "Law and Order: Special Victims Unit" and "Law and Order: Criminal Intent", where women DO get bound and gagged, but they get BLINDFOLDED as well, thereby ruining the scene. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Saturday February 16 02:12:04 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
| Tapemaster wrote: > Also, get ready for more episodes of "Law and > Order", "Law and Order: Special Victims > Unit" and "Law and Order: Criminal > Intent", where women DO get bound and gagged, but > they get BLINDFOLDED as well, thereby ruining the scene. Their being blindfolded along with being bound and gagged doesn't completely ruin the scene for me. I concur that it does somewhat detract from the delectability of the scene, but doesn't completely ruin it. Remember, the show is based on actual crimes, and the criminals who bound and gagged female victims in the course of committing these crimes may have seen fit to blindfold their victims as well. The program strives for realism. A recently aired rerun featured a mother and her two daughters bound, gagged, and blindfolded together. They had been kidnapped, and the kidnappers had blindfolded them out of necessity, to prevent their victims from getting a look at their faces. |
| Hadji |
| Saturday February 16 02:35:00 2008 Re: Love, American Style |
| Snidely Claw wrote: > The episode Kathy Kersh appears in is entitled "Love > and the House Bachelor". She plays a character > called Tina. So you want this added to the notes to check into? Or is this a DB Edit? Where you're sure it's Kathy? |
| Jay L |
| Saturday February 16 03:18:06 2008 Re: The Law & Order show |
| Hadji wrote: > Remember, the show > is based on actual crimes Hadji my friend, you're abit out of the loop. Let's get you back in Some of these plots are very similar to other shows (borrowed), like "Die Cleveren" Tracking (off-hand), Foot Fetishist, Chess Murderer etc have been on Law & Order show. Only difference, in the US one the two leads aren't sleeping together. (Forgive me here, I don't quite get the US "Homecoming" event, despite Kevin W's efforts to explain it.) Peter de K described the start of Die Cleveren, ep: "Die Ikone" as similar to this "Homecoming" in Germany. I'm sure (Kevin W?) said similar about the US. A girl is chosen as Home Gal. Figure this plot could easily be (adopted?) into the Law & Order show, with two Home gal scenes. Favoured of ones to show up. |
| Jay L |
| Saturday February 16 03:19:52 2008 Re: Jumper |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > I'm almost dying to know if she gagged in any way. even a > hand gag. NO gag or handgag.Just secured to the wall with the device to secure her as bait. |
| Saturday February 16 03:45:53 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
| Hadji wrote: > Tapemaster wrote: > > Also, get ready for more episodes of "Law and > > Order", "Law and Order: Special Victims > > Unit" and "Law and Order: Criminal > > Intent", where women DO get bound and gagged, > but > > they get BLINDFOLDED as well, thereby ruining the scene. > Remember, the show > is based on actual crimes, and the criminals who bound > and gagged female victims in the course of committing > these crimes may have seen fit to blindfold their victims > as well. The program strives for realism. > A recently aired rerun featured a mother and her two > daughters bound, gagged, and blindfolded together. They > had been kidnapped, and the kidnappers had blindfolded > them out of necessity, to prevent their victims from > getting a look at their faces. Hadji, you are correct: the "Law and Order" shows attempt to be "realistic". Therefore, when they have people tied up they often have them blindfolded as well because they feel that in a real life situation the crook would want the victim blindfolded so that the victim could not identify the crook. However, I have 3 problems with this: First, if the crooks don't want the victims to be able to identify them, they could wear masks. Second, I am not interested in "realism" when it comes to television shows and movies. I think that "realism" is one of the things that have destroyed the quality of TV shows and movies. The purpose of fiction is not to reproduce real life. The purpose of fiction is to communicate concepts. Third, whether or not a blindfold is necessary for the plot is beside the point. If I am tuning into a show for the bondage scene, then that is what I am interested in. I do not tune into current TV shows for the stories. I do not like them. I tune into them to record scenes of women bound and gagged. That is what I am interested in. It does not matter to me if it makes sense plotwise for the villain to blindfold his bound and gagged woman captive. I do not want to see a blindfold. I want to see her eyes and the emotions that her eyes reveal. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Saturday February 16 03:48:58 2008 Re: Las Vegas |
| Tapemaster wrote: How many times is this show going to FAIL to bind > and gag the ladies? There are 11 entries in the database for Las Vegas. Purging the database reveals: 5 bound and gagged scenes 3 arrest scenes 2 bound but ungagged scenes 1 spa wrap scene I'd say the bound and gagged ladies are winning on this show. |
| MT |
| Saturday February 16 04:24:08 2008 Re: Las Vegas |
| MT wrote: > Tapemaster wrote: > How many times is this show going to FAIL to bind > > and gag the ladies? > There are 11 entries in the database for Las Vegas. > Purging the database reveals: > 5 bound and gagged scenes > 3 arrest scenes > 2 bound but ungagged scenes > 1 spa wrap scene > I'd say the bound and gagged ladies are winning on this > show. Considering that "Las Vegas" has been on for 5 seasons, with a bunch of very beautiful women in the main cast: Vanessa Marcil, Molly Sims, Camille Guaty, Nikki Cox, Marsha Thomason, (plus Cheryl Ladd in a recurring role), with a premise about casino security, I would say that the show has been a major disappointment. How many times has someone tried to rob this casino? Only 2 of the 6 women that I just mentioned have been bound and gagged. The bound and gagged scene for Nikki Cox was only average. The bound and gagged scene for Vanessa Marcil COULD HAVE BEEN one of the greatest scenes of all time if only she didn't manage to rub her tapegag off on the rug. It ended up being one of the most FRUSTRATING scenes of all time. Talk about plot necessity! It was completely necessary for her to be gagged throughout the entire scene that she tried to get to the phone. Plotwise, it was necessary for no one outside the room to be able to hear her in there. Once she got the gag off, she screamed loudly. No one heard her, but only because no one was close enough. There was absolutely no reason for her to get the gag off from the perspective of the plot. If she had contacted someone on the phone, she could have "mmmmmmphed" into the phone. The person on the other end would not have been able to understand her. Vanessa would have felt extreme frustration at not being able to communicate her situation. The person on the other end could have then tried to trace the call, but then the villain comes back and hangs up the phone before the trace can be made. In the episode, the villain ended up returning before she got through to anybody anyway and regagged her. Getting her gag off added NOTHING to the plot. It just prevented a more dramatic situation. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Saturday February 16 11:01:21 2008 Tapemaster |
| Nice to wake up, check Brian's Page and see that Tapemaster is ranting again. I like how one message is never enough. There are always three, four or maybe more. I particularly enjoy how he CAPITALIZES for emphasis just in case we don't understand his points. Makes life a little easier. |
| Saturday February 16 11:26:08 2008 Tatort |
| This is showing on German channel ARD Sunday 24 Feb. |
| Martin |
| http://www.tvspielfilm.de/sendungssuche?sendungs_id=12162463&film_id=&imgno=12&interface=slide |
| Saturday February 16 13:07:07 2008 Morning |
| It's also nice to see that the "if Tapemaster doesn't like it, it's not a proper scene" rule also applies. |
| Saturday February 16 13:56:20 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
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This post was deleted. Poster: Michael Huck Reason: Off-topic. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday February 16 16:07:02 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
| Tapemaster wrote: I do not tune into current TV shows for the stories. I do not like them. I tune into them to record scenes of women bound and gagged. That is what I am interested in.>> You can't always get what you want. Especially when 99.9% of the rest of the viewing audience does care about the plot. |
| Fugzarro |
| Saturday February 16 17:40:54 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
| The Moderator wrote: > This post was deleted. > Poster: Michael Huck > Reason: Off-topic. Point of order? While I won't go so far as to suggest that Michael's "Unhappy End!" episodes should go into the database (though one could certainly make that case), I'm not clear on why it's off-topic for him even to mention them now and then as he did here. I'd argue that they can't really be called commercial bondage videos, any more than can, say, "The Perils of Penelope Pitstop" or the "Justine" series. While they're clearly designed to appeal to our particular tastes, they generally contain more plot and more non-bondage content than is typical for commercial videos; in fact, I'm about 95% certain that several of them don't feature bondage at all. (I know, I know, what was he thinking?) Not to make a federal case out of it, and of course this is only my opinion. I simply happen to know that the man has had to work pretty hard on occasion just to get these episodes made, and it'd be nice to think that they weren't entirely verboten here. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'd also like to remind folks that, by arrangement with Michael, I've made a couple hours of his work available in the free area of my site. |
| Raffish |
| Saturday February 16 18:09:04 2008 Re: Las Vegas |
| Tapemaster wrote: > The bound and gagged scene for Vanessa Marcil COULD HAVE BEEN one of the greatest scenes I know people like busting on Tapemaster, but in this case, most of what he says is right. She should have stayed gagged for much longer. She still could have worked off the tape right before the bad guy came back, and everything would have played out the same way. |
| The House of Le Bastard |
| Saturday February 16 18:25:22 2008 Re: Tapemaster |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Nice to wake up, check Brian's Page and see that > Tapemaster is ranting again. I like how one message is > never enough. There are always three, four or maybe more. If you don't want to read my posts, you don't have to. Nobody is forcing you to read them. > I particularly enjoy how he CAPITALIZES for emphasis just > in case we don't understand his points. Makes life a little easier. Sometimes it is necessary to place emphasis on certain words and the only way to do that in text is to use capitalization. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Saturday February 16 18:29:18 2008 Re: Morning |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > It's also nice to see that the "if Tapemaster > doesn't like it, it's not a proper scene" rule also > applies. There is no such rule. If I don't like a scene, then that is my business. However, I can express my opinion about it here. This is a DISCUSSION forum. We are supposed to express our opinions about scenes, either positive or negative. If you like a scene that I don't, then that is your business and you can express your opinion about it here. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Saturday February 16 18:46:56 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
| Fugzarro wrote: > Tapemaster wrote: > I do not tune into current TV shows for the stories. I do > not like them. I tune into them to record scenes of women > bound and gagged. That is what I am interested > in.>> > You can't always get what you want. Obviously. However, I can voice my opinion when I do not get what I want. > Especially when > 99.9% of the rest of the viewing audience does care about the plot. I am not concerned with what 99.9% of the rest of the viewing audience cares about. I am not obligated to them or the television networks. I am only concerned with what I care about seeing on television. As a consumer, that is my right, just as it is the right of every consumer. If I tune into a show only to record a scene of a woman bound and gagged, then that is MY business. It does not matter to the networks WHY a person tunes into a certain show, just as long as enough people tune in. If the networks were smart they would recognize that there ARE plenty of people like us who will tune into a show for the sole purpose of recording a scene of a woman bound and gagged. However, the networks are NOT smart because they keep giving us the same awful crap and as a result less and less people are watching television. I am not expecting a bound and gagged scene on every episode of every show. That would be ridiculously unrealistic. However, there is enough room for ALL viewers to get plenty of what they want to see. The problem is that television networks are out of touch with what people want to see. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Saturday February 16 18:54:39 2008 Re: Moderator- Michael's "Unhappy End!" |
| Raffish wrote: > While I won't go so far as to suggest > that Michael's "Unhappy End!" episodes should > go into the database (though one could certainly make > that case) Heading into an area I'd rather discuss on Corrections buddy. ;) But as far as a "Michael's Update" here on Discussion, I see your point. |
| Jay L |
| Saturday February 16 19:29:25 2008 Re; Love, american style |
| Thanks for replying Jay. I am reasonably sure that it's KK. Having viewed the scene again after having viewed caps of her from an appearance on the "Batman" tv show and comparing these to the scene in question,I'm pretty sure it IS her and not Phyllis Davis. Of course the only way to know for sure is to somehow view the episode in which she actually appeared,"Love and the House Bachelor", if this is at all possible. It may be worth adding to the notes with a view to checking out at some point. You may well have this scene yourself so you may consider making the comparison also. There is a page devoted to kathy at the following url, (http://womwam.net/ft/us/40-44/K_Kersh/index.htm) which lists her "Love American style" credit, though there are no caps, which most likely would have cleared up this whole matter for us! |
| Snidely Claw |
| Saturday February 16 19:34:49 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
| Raffish wrote: > they can't really be called commercial bondage videos, Yes they can |
| Saturday February 16 20:10:18 2008 JESS WALTON |
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This post was moved to The Trading Forum. Poster: wetrix Reason: Off-topic. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday February 16 20:12:01 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
| Raffish wrote: > I'd > argue that they can't really be called commercial bondage > videos I disagree. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday February 16 20:13:18 2008 Re: JESS WALTON |
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This post was moved to The Trading Forum. Poster: Tapemaster Reason: Off-topic. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday February 16 20:14:48 2008 Re: Moderator- Michael's "Unhappy End!" |
| Jay L wrote: > But as far as a "Michael's Update" here on > Discussion, I see your point. I don't. The videos have about as much plot as AES or any other storyline commercial vids. Off-topic here and the Database. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday February 16 20:16:59 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Raffish wrote: > > they can't really be called commercial bondage > videos, > Yes they can I stand corrected and in awe of your formidable debating skills. |
| Raffish |
| Saturday February 16 21:06:12 2008 Re: Moderator- Michael's "Unhappy End!" |
| The Moderator wrote: > Jay L wrote: > > But as far as a "Michael's Update" here on > Discussion, I see your point. > > I don't. To me, Raffi announcing Michael's vids on his update just seems same as Mason announcing the commercial site stuff on his. Perhaps something I not seeing then? |
| Jay L |
| Saturday February 16 21:56:05 2008 Re: The writers' strike is over |
| I am not concerned with what 99.9% of the rest of the viewing audience cares about. I am not obligated to them or the television networks. I am only concerned with what I care about seeing on television. <<< I understand, but the people that actually produce these things have to be concerned what the audience cares about. People in a mass audience aren't going to watch something that doesn't have a plot. They are not going to bother with something that doesn't push an emotional button here or there. They are not going to waste their time with stories that give them emotional satisfaction. Only a tiny, and irrelevant, part of the audience has the same fetishes that you do. So I don't know what you can realistically expect. If I had a bare foot fetish, it would be strange if I whined about the quality of television because I didn't see bare feet several times per week on tv. Satsifying my fetish needs has nothing to do with the purpose of television production. As most people here realize, you watch mainstream tv for what it's worth, not because you think it should be a bondage video. A scene is merely a bonus, not something you should expect. If you think tv sucks, don't watch it. |
| I forgot what my real name is, I use so many aliases here. |
| Saturday February 16 22:18:26 2008 Alerts on Alerts page |
| Just a warning on some of my alerts for this and next week. Use the descriptions as the basis for your recordings, except for Thurday that Facing the Enemy will air not Engaged to Kill. I rushed my alerts due to personal reason and forgot to edit the headers. |
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