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Saturday March 29 00:01:19 2008
Re: The Capture of the Green River Killer
Hadji wrote:

> Wow! This sounds like an aesthetic delectation for people
> such as ourselves! So viewers will actually see the
> actresses bound and gagged, not merely pictures of them in bondage?

He's giving you a complete line of BS. The GRK never, not once, bound and gagged any of his victims. So what you will see in the film is a great big nada, no B&G scenes, no B&G pics, nothing.
Anubis
http://www.anuvids.com
Saturday March 29 02:20:52 2008
Re: Homage to Law and Order - CI
zarchaic wrote:

> ...which Crime Series currently on has the maximum no of bondage worthy
> main female characters .

Granted, the production design of the show is some sort of Lifetime Channel, Soap Opera, fern bar/white wine, alternate chick universe, "crime" drama, but the show with the greatest gaggle of plentiful pulcritude is... "THE WOMEN'S MURDER CLUB"!!

Okay, okay, I admit it: If they announced a series entitled "ALICIA WITT READS THE PHONE BOOK", I'd ask myself "...is it a *bondage* phone book?", so alternate weeks of "L&O:CI" *also* make my list.
http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/Womens-Murder-Club.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Saturday March 29 04:23:06 2008
Funny games compared with Collector


Just wondering how folks thought "Funny Games would compare with another off-beat movie that had a good looking known actress bound and gagged in a film with a downer ending.

"The Collector" has that great bound and gagged scene in the bathroom, which I think is tops, this movie of course being from 1965 is not going to be as rough as "Funny Games.

Still Sammantha Egar and Naomi Watts are neck and neck when it comes to fine looking women put in bondage for the big screen.

I'd say more of my thoughts but have to leave for work. Hope others have seen both movies and have some thoughts on it. It's not so much which is better, that's always in the mind of the person viewing each movie, just how they think they compare.

Also good reason to watch that on screen gagging action from "The Collector."
Woody
Saturday March 29 04:39:55 2008
Re: Funny Games
Pat Powers wrote:

> the most
> bondage-intensive mainstream movie ever made?


Consider this one?

This looked like something David Knight & Julliet Heart would come up with



======================

Record number: 5437

Title: Ärztin in Angst (1995)
Medium: TV Movie
Actress: Leslie Malton

Description: At the start of the movie, blonde Leslie Malton gets kidnapped and taken to an abandoned building. Rough 5mins in, she comes to and discovers her wrists cuffed over her head and through the bars of a metal bedframe. Gagged with tape. The scene goes on for several minutes with her being freed and recuffed same. Tape gag is also ripped off and reapplied onscreen.

Roughly 25mins in, she's cuffed hands behind back through the bedframe. Tapegag is also removed and reapplied during this scene.

Roughly 55mins in, she pulls an acrobatic move to seat herself on the bar above her cuffed wrists, then heel kicks the bar till it breaks. Runs her cuffed wrists down to bring her wrists up in front and remove the tape gag and attempts to escape. After a chase, she runs into villian. She's knocked cold and carried over the shoulder and put in the trunk of a car.

Roughly 1hr and 25mins in, she's tied onscreen to a chair, wrists behind back, ankles to chairlegs and tightly cleave-gagged with white cloth.

Rough 1 & 35mins in, she tries to free herself by nudging the chair over to a pair of scissors nearby. Ends up tipping the chair over.

Rough 1 hour & 45mins in, the villian rights the chair and removes the cleave, right as the police show up. She screams which sets off a gun fight, during which she finally gets her bound hands on the scissors and frees herself.

She wears a skirt, stockings, and a blouse.

==================================================
Jay L
Saturday March 29 10:44:13 2008
Re: Martha O'Driscoll in 'Ghost Chasers' (?)
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>Has any one else on this forum seen this outstanding sequence?

Apparently someone has, because it's in the database under the movie's CORRECT title-"Ghost Catchers."

Just trying to be helpful here...

Title Nazi
Saturday March 29 12:16:38 2008
Re: Funny Games
Jay L wrote:

> Record number: 5437
> Title: Ärztin in Angst (1995)
> Medium: TV Movie
> Actress: Leslie Malton

Is there anything that movie didn't have? Tape gag, cleave gag, handcuffs, ropes, OTS, on-screen gagging, gag talk, KO, escape and recapture.

That movie also had one of the best scenes of a DiD waking up and realizing she was gagged. I never get tired of watching that part of it.
MadFish
Saturday March 29 12:22:34 2008
Re: The Capture of the Green River Killer
Anubis wrote:

> He's giving you a complete line of BS.

Ok, I took a look at the Lifetime site and the trailer
didn't show anything of significance. What I'm going to
do is leave the original, the rebuttal, and people can
check or not when it airs. I'm going to remove all other
reaction posts.

If it turns out to be fake, and I think it will,
informative messages will be allowed but NO UPSET REPLIES.
That's the purpose of fakes. Any such messages will be
immediately deleted. Is this clear?


The Moderator
Saturday March 29 12:51:52 2008
Re: Prom Night
Hadji wrote:

> Actually, there was a putz scene in the original version
> that starred Jamie Lee Curtis. In the previews for the
> remake, I did see a blonde, perhaps Britanny Snow, having
> a hand forcefully clamped over her mouth. This may have
> been the hand of the villain, the deranged former teacher
> who's stalking her, or from a male friend trying to
> protect her.

I noticed that handgag in the preview just recently.. just crossing my fingers now. It's out April 11th? - I think.. blah I hate waiting!
Mushroom
Saturday March 29 13:58:05 2008
Re: Queen of Swords alumnae
> Spanish hottie Elsa Pataky is set to star in Italian horror master Dario Argento's latest film,"Giallo", as a fashion model abducted by a serial killer...
~~~~
That's great news!

Also, the other star on "Queen of Swords", Tessa Santiago, is filming "The Cell 2". The original "Cell" had a short scene (w/o gag) for Jennifer Lopez, and given the premise of the heroine's psychic ability there's at least a better than even odds for a DiD-scene for "Cell 2" (whether it's the actual victim and/or the psychic entering the killer's mind).
Kinky-napper
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1185837/
Saturday March 29 14:49:18 2008
Re: mistake
Harry wrote:

> I meant to write 3/25.Sorry about that.

Harry....what was 3/25? What's the title of the show/movie you're referring to?

Saturday March 29 19:14:37 2008
Re: Funny Games
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Pat Powers wrote:
> > The game's afoot! Is Funny Games the most
> > bondage-intensive mainstream movie ever made?
> You know Pat, most intense, most length, is good
> criteria, and TAU may be the best so far, I think The
> Collector just beats it out. For me it's about screen
> time, quality and sexiness and story. If it's hot all
> the way through, and that means not overly violent, and
> the DID looks good, and that means not beat up or bloody,
> and if the context is erotic, and that means a lot of
> things to a lot of people, then it's the best.

To me, your standards seem better suited to rate the overall quality of a movie in terms of bondage scenes, rather than its bondage intensity. For example, I think the scene in Over The Wire is really excellent, a topnotch scene, with the erotica elements you speak of, lack of violence (it's consensual) and a gorgeous DiD. But the one scene is all there is, and it just doesn't last that long, so I wouldn't rate the movie highly in terms of bondage intensity.

I think bondage intensity might be defined as a matter of screen time and the degree to which the bondage is played up in the movie.

That is, you could have a movie in which a damsel languishes in chains and even a gag throughout a movie, but if all she does is lie there and languish, even if there are many shots of her lying around languishing, I wouldn't call the movie bondage intensive, no matter how much screen time she gets, especially if the bondage never changes.

There have to be struggles, attempts to escape, that sort of thing, or lots and lots of different bondage scenes to show that the villain considers keeping the damsel on ice very important.

By that logic, the Artzin in Angst (or whatever, can't remember the title offhand) movie that Jay L cited would probably rank very highly in terms of bondage intensity. There are many scenes, many different forms of bondage, lots of emoting by the damsel. Clearly the bondage is important to the story. I haven't seen it myself so I can't say for sure.

To me, one of the most bondage-intensive movies ever is a hentai called "Imma Youjo 4: The Erotic Temptress." Despite the goofy title (there is no character who can reasonably be called an erotic temptress in the movie) it is full of bondage imagery, the imagery is very important to the story, and what's more the bondage scenes in the last 20 minutes or so all develop the plot more, and have a built-in increase in intensity. (Basically, the bad guys have a woman in their dungeon all chained up and frequently molested whom they really, really, really shouldn't be molesting. But they're bad guys, and they don't know what they're doing. The audience does.)

Another example would be "Intensity" the movie. The bondage is essential to the story, the heroine's desperate desire to escape is palpable, and you understand exactly why, after much struggling, she's willing to throw herself down a flight of stairs while chained to a chair. If there had been more bondage throughout the movie ... say, the little girl had been more like 18 years old and physically restrained herself instead of just psychologically terrified, it would be without a doubt one of the, if not the most bondage intensive movies ever. As it is, it's worth mentioning in any list of bondage intensive movies.

I agree with you that the great bondage intensive movie has never been made. But it's been written. It's called "Let's Go Play At the Addams."

That doesn't mean it would be the best bondage movie ever. That movie would be "Captive of Gor," properly made. Or "Slave Girl of Gor." Or "Dancer of Gor." Because they have the romance element you speak of. I don't think bondage intensity necessarily has to include a romance element. But I agree with you that it helps define the very best bondage movie in general. If "Secretary" had had more bondage imagery, it might have filled the bill. Hell, if "Cheyenne" had had more bondage imagery (lots lots lots more) it might have filled the bill.


TAU is
> mentioned because it also has multiple DID's; even
> better. In a way, I think we all look for the ultimate
> mainstream scene because it hasn't happened yet.
> So few contenders are even close these days, screen time
> seems to be the biggest hurdle, you know, flash cuts and
> all that. Story is a big problem too, we really need a
> good long kidnapping for love type story; only The
> Collector comes close on this.
> Intensity is good, but most here would say that means
> tight and realistic, not overly cruel, so that leaves out
> Funny Games, I think, but maybe not for others.
> Personally, I'm hoping for a DID Love Story to come
> along, and I think it may soon. 9 1/2 Weeks was such a
> disappointment, if you read the book, the author had a
> gag scene or two, but ultimately that story had no chance
> because the female lead was not into it and not willing
> to give up trust; it was the wrong story for us.
> The best mainstream scene ever? Not important to me to judge now, I'm still looking for the best one.

Pat Powers
http://www.hentairevue.com/hentaireviews/reviews/immayoujo4/imma_youjo_4_adult_anime.html
Saturday March 29 20:35:30 2008
Re: Watchable martial arts B-movies with bondage scenes
> And since I'm a martial arts fan I watch "Invincible Pole Fighter," which many people would probably call a grade Z movie, at least once a year. Again, the scene(s) are a bonus. Well-choreographed fights are so great to watch, as opposed to the attention deficit disorder/MTV crap that passes for fighting in so many modern films.
~~~~
Fortunately, someone has posted "Eight Diagram Pole Fighter" (aka, "Invincible Pole Fighter") on YouTube, in nine parts.

Thanks for the tip; I caught it for the first time.
Kinky-napper
Saturday March 29 21:45:09 2008
Re: The Capture of the Green River Killer
> Hoping this is informative.

By informative, I mean something about the MOVIE. The crime
itself is off-topic.


The Moderator
Saturday March 29 22:59:18 2008
Re: The Capture of the Green River Killer
The Moderator wrote:

> > Hoping this is informative.
> By informative, I mean something about the MOVIE. The
> crime
> itself is off-topic.

Okay, sorry, misunderstood, because I was talking about a book and the movie is based on a book.


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