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Sunday March 09 04:33:33 2008
Re: MIs - "Deal"
Overlooker wrote:
Blair,but "The Deal" wasn't listed.
> ...I'm afraid you are right. Unfortunately, it wouldn't
> be the first time that my friggin' Cable TV Guide got
> something like this wrong.
how sad.
Sunday March 09 07:05:09 2008
The 7th Hunt
Just a heads up about a new horror film that looks like it'll have some good DiD action in it - a girl in a corset and tartan skirt chained up, and 2 blondes tape gagged! One of which i think is Imogen Bailey

Posted the youtube link in videos, worth checking out.
bob
Sunday March 09 10:39:23 2008
Women: Stories of Passion alert
Episode 30 of Women: Stories of Passion, aka "The Gigolo" is now available on Showtime On Deand: andwill be until March19. Interestingly, it was written and directed by Mary Woronov. It's also one of the best-acted softcore romantic comedies you'll ever see. Here's why some of you might want to tape it:

Record number: 1144

Title: Women - Stories of Passion
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Annaliza Scott

Description: Episode: "The Gigolo"

Attractive blonde executive who pays a gigolo to scare her during sex scenes that she scripts. The first scene involves him breakng into her place wearing a stocking mask and forcing her to cuff herself to the bedframe and then blindfolding her, followed by some consensual sex. In short, she's a DID fantasist who likes being the DID.

The second scene involved forcing her to strip naked, revealing a bondage harness, then forcing her to put on a ball gag. Followed by more consensual sex. Then the guy refuses to do her next script, so she tries some other guys, who just can't give her the thrill she needs, being kind of wimpy beefcake types. Her insistence that scenes be played her way scares them too much. Includes a scene of her kneeling on her bed, her head reasting on the footboard, her arms tied far apart at her sides.

Pat Powers
Sunday March 09 11:42:59 2008
This and that and nothing in particular...
...or as Sacramento Bee movie reviewer Carla Meyer remarked concerning Virginia Madsen's perfomance in "Firewall" a couple of years back: "It seems unfair that her reward for her success in 'Sideways' is spending much of a predictable thriller either bound or with her mouth taped. Then again, nobody forced her to take the part."

Too bad I've been away the last few days, because I hope I'm not beating a dead horse in responding to Emma's post from Thursday with regard to color remakes of black-and-white films with scenes. It's funny, Emma, that you should have mentioned Fay Wray's most famous performance without evoking memories of one of the best examples of what you're talking about-namely, one of Wray's two other 1933 scenes, in "The Mystery of the Wax Museum." Am I the ONLY person left here who remembers that this movie was remade twenty years later as (drum roll culminating in a cymbal crash, please)-"House of Wax"-which was not only in color, but was originally released in 3D?

And as for which scene was better, it's no contest. Phyllis Kirk deserved the Hall of Fame berth she earned for her work in that movie, even if she WASN'T really the first damsel to do a scene in which her nudity was unambiguously implied. They didn't even TRY to show Wray like that back in '33!

And while were dealing with Hall of Fame caliber scenes, we naturally can't avoid mentioning the first one that was part of an Oscar-winning perfomance-Susan Hayward's in 1958's "I Want to Live!" Lindsay Wagner assayed the role of Barbara Graham in a 1983 made-for-TV remake that, as its database entry author notes, dispensed with more than the exclamation point at the end of the title. This one's a close call, in my view. Unlike Hayward, Wagner wasn't blindfolded during the execution scene, and her struggles were longer and more pronounced. However, Hayward's bondage just looked more realistic to me-as if she really couldn't have gotten out of it without help. I think I'll make it a narrow win for Hayward, who appeared earlier in the original film explicitly handcuffed, albeit with her wrists in front, as opposed to Wagner's implied behind-the-back handcuffings in the remake.

Other B&W to color remakes included the 1952 version of "The Prisoner of Zenda" with Kathleen Freeman, which was a shot-for-shot remake of the 1937 version featuring Eleanor Wesselhoeft, and the 1991 TV-movie version of "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?" Man, how I wish I'd bought stock in 3M the week before they filmed Vanessa Redgrave's scene in that one. I bet she's STILL got some of that duct-tape residue on her somewhere! (By the way, database authors, any idea as to why there's no entry for Joan Crawford's scene in the 1962 original?)

Oh, and if everyone wants a chuckle this morning, be sure and take a look at today's "Dennis the Menace." Be honest now-was such ever more deserved?


Fettershackle
Sunday March 09 13:06:55 2008
Martha Smith answers!
Hi, have you ever been to this website?
Martha Smith answered questions for me about her bound and gagged scene on Scarecrow and Mrs.King! martha-smith.net. go to Ask Martha 2004 and look for my questions. There are more than one. Ron. She even said she didn't mind signing the picture I sent of her gagged on Scarecrow and Mrs. King. Ron.
Ron
bassplayer@morganco.net
Sunday March 09 14:59:00 2008
Re: Martha Smith answers!
Ron wrote:

"Martha Smith answered questions for me about her bound and gagged scene on Scarecrow and Mrs.King!... go to Ask Martha 2004 and look for my questions. There are more than one."

Hmmm...methinks the lady protested not enough!

"She even said she didn't mind signing the picture I sent of her gagged on Scarecrow and Mrs. King."

And here's what clinches her being One of Us. When someone else asked which character she'd seen in a movie that she would have most liked to have played, guess what she answered. No, not Lois Lane or someone like that. She mentioned Frances Farmer, the real-life actress and mental patient that Jessica Lange just missed becoming Bound Oscar Winner Number Two portraying in the eponymous 1982 biopic.

She even made a reference to "The Perils of Pauline" in response to another questioner over there. Wonder how ofter she lurks here?



Fettershackle
http://martha-smith.net
Sunday March 09 15:26:27 2008
Re: Martha Smith answers!
Ron wrote:

> Hi, have you ever been to this website?
> Martha Smith answered questions for me about her bound
> and gagged

Always thought she was an underrated beauty. Too bad she only had one gag scene, but it was pretty good. That orange dress is burned into my mind.
Sunday March 09 15:52:14 2008
Re: Women: Stories of Passion alert
Pat Powers wrote:

> Episode 30 of Women: Stories of Passion, aka "The
> Gigolo" is now available on Showtime On Deand:
> andwill be until March19. Interestingly, it was written
> and directed by Mary Woronov. It's also one of the
> best-acted softcore romantic comedies you'll ever see.

Thanks for the good news, Pat! This has been kind of a grail for me, for exactly the reasons you name. Basically, it's romantic, kinky and a little edgy. I love the fact that our special interest is portrayed as a healthy part of their relationship. Even when I had Showtime, though, they suddenly stopped showing this one -- at least, not when I tuned in, anyway. And I waited ages for the series to come out on DVD at all, let alone this one (or is it finally out on DVD? I oughta run and check after I post...).
The Kindly One
Sunday March 09 17:08:41 2008
Martha Smith
Did you see the the question where I ask about her gag? She said "The gag wasn't too bad. I was able to utter some words" Ron.
Ron
Sunday March 09 18:14:24 2008
Re: Martha Smith
Ron wrote:

> Did you see the the question where I ask about her gag?
> She said "The gag wasn't too bad. I was able to
> utter some words" Ron.

Interesting point she made about no being able to choose the gag. In Kate Jackson's scene in that show, it was white tape. Martha gets a white OTM.

Sunday March 09 18:46:08 2008
Re: The 7th Hunt
> 2 blondes tape
> gagged! One of which i think is Imogen Bailey
> Posted the youtube link in videos, worth checking out.

Having seen Imogen on lots of magazine covers, and her in Man Thing, i was wondering if she would get a decent treatment. The shots may be quick, but she's tied up in most of them, so i reckon she's getting the once over, several times over!

And the goth is kinda cute!
jason b
jb@yahoo.com
Sunday March 09 19:33:19 2008
Re: MIs - "Deal"
Overlooker wrote:
> Unfortunately, it wouldn't
> be the first time that my friggin' Cable TV Guide got
> something like this wrong.

TV Guide isn't wrong. It's simply a different "The Deal." This one is about the deal Tony Blair and Gordon Brown made some years ago that led to Blair getting to be Prime Minister. Not much of interest DiD-wise -- that might be more a Tory specialty :-) -- but it's a quality movie if you're into British politics at all.
Sunday March 09 22:17:24 2008
Re: MIs - "Deal"
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> TV Guide isn't wrong. It's simply a different "The
> Deal." This one is about the deal Tony Blair and
> Gordon Brown made some years ago that led to Blair
> getting to be Prime Minister.

Very interesting. I dig politics, so if you can promise me that Tony Blair does NOT get tied up at any point, I might actually watch.
Raffish

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