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| Monday March 31 00:49:00 2008 Brenda Starr |
| Two girls in Sunday's Brenda Starr comic bound and cleave-gagged. |
| Cohen |
| http://www.comicspage.com/brendastarr/index.html |
| Monday March 31 01:36:08 2008 Re: Search |
| The Engineer wrote: > make sure you let me know that you tried a > search that should have worked but didn't. Test your email to make sure working, as you were sent the "Error Reports" |
| Jay L |
| Monday March 31 02:44:31 2008 Re: Search |
| Jay L wrote: . > Test your email to make sure working, > as you were sent the "Error Reports" Must have missed them. Sorry. |
| The Engineer |
| Monday March 31 02:46:01 2008 Re: Brenda Starr |
| Cohen wrote: > Two girls in Sunday's Brenda Starr comic bound and > cleave-gagged. Yeah, I posted it earlier. When posting comic strip links, it's best to use day specific ones. The one you have is invalid now, as it's gone into Monday. |
| Brian R |
| Monday March 31 02:54:02 2008 Re: Raffish DiDClips updated |
| Raffish wrote: > Bit late this week, but hope you like. Like the clever railroad deathtrap in the Chimera scene. Unfortunately she works her gag off quickly and she's kinda ugly to boot. Well tied in a nice feminine outfit. Adding it to the railroad tracks scenes in my collection. Hadn't seen this one before. Thanks. |
| Monday March 31 04:07:34 2008 Re: Brenda Starr |
| > Yeah, I posted it earlier. When posting comic strip > links, it's best to use day specific ones. The one you > have is invalid now, as it's gone into Monday. I somehow missed your post. *adjusting glasses* I obviously posted a link to a Brenda Starr/comicstrip hub. I somehow thought that the 'correct' date would automatically come up when the url was clicked. Forgive me now for sounding like...Comic-Book Guy...oh, the pain! |
| Cohen |
| Monday March 31 06:05:05 2008 Re: Funny Games |
| Pat Powers wrote: > I'd say "Terror Among Us" is a likely > candidate, though I haven't seen it so I can't say for > sure. I HAVE seen The Abductors and it seems a strong > candidate to me, but is it mainstream? (I'd say yes but > there may be conflicting opinions.) > Does bondage intensive mean amount of screen time devoted > to bondage imagery, or does it mean how intense the > bondage is (Funny Games definitely scores there, but > there are competitors there as well). What say you, O solons of Brians Page? Well for my money the best ever Bon-Rom-com (and if that isn't a recognised genre then it certainly should be) is Tie Me Up Tie Me down, with Victoria Abril spending a good 2/3 of the movie the bound and gagged prisoner of Antonio Banderas. It's funny, it's sexy and bt the end of the movie she's demanding he tie her up. I can only think of two other films that fall into this genre. All Tied Up is a bit of a putz fest but does redeem itself with a nice Teri Hatcher chairtie at the end Then there's Bound & Gagged: A Love story, largely forgotten now but Ginger Lynn Allen spends most of the movie the cleave gagged and handcuffed prisoner of her lesbian lover. A case of never mind the quality feel the width but still a great little film in my opiniom |
| Moxx of Balhoom |
| Monday March 31 06:05:08 2008 Re: Brenda Starr |
| actually theres an archive button there. i think you can still see previous episodes. |
| henry fool |
| henry_fool@lycos.com |
| Monday March 31 07:56:19 2008 Re: Brenda Starr |
| henry fool wrote: > actually theres an archive button there. i think you can > still see previous episodes. http://www.comicspage.com has "Brenda Starr" among others, and and achive. |
| Historian |
| historian64@hotmail.com |
| Monday March 31 09:47:58 2008 Site Update |
| This week's site update is a review of "Testing the Limits" which stars the incredibly lovely (see image below) Lorissa McComas as a model stalked by an obsessive fan. In the course of the movie Lorissa gets naked, bound and gagged, though sadly, not all at the same time. I also introduce in this review the Reluctant Sensitive Guy, a stock character in Skinamax films who really drags things along. And I also introduce the concept of Lurking Heavy Plot, which has destroyed more interesting characterizations on film that, well ... anything! Check it out at the homepage link if you're interested. |
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| Pat Powers |
| http://www.bondagerotica.com/mainstream.html |
| Monday March 31 09:51:33 2008 That was one tight bit gag in "Pony Soldiers"! |
| Pony Soldier - One Tight Bit Gag! Pony Soldier aired on AMC this weekend and I taped it so I could see the cleave gag worn by Penny Edwards. Later, I made some caps of the scene. And when I did that, I noticed that that was one hell of a tight cleave gag Penny Edwards was wearing in that movie (see image below). It was pulling her lips back and also distorting the outline of her nose. What's more, the curvature of the band holding the bit gag in place looked very much like the way straps curve on the neck of a commercial bondage model (or for that matter, wife or sweetie) when she's wearing a ballgag that's properly tight so it is held within the mouth. Yeah, that was one tight bit gag Penny Edwards wore, and what's more, she wore it in several different scenes in the movie. (By "scenes" I mean different shots that would have required a certain amount of set-up for the crew). There was one scene where she is found and temporarily rescued by Tyrone Power inside the tent. There was a second scene where she is standing and wearing the cleave gag while the Indians who have captured her stand around and talk about Indian stuff, like burning her alive in a fire. There's a third scene where she's seated on the ground, tied hand and foot and wearing the bit gag, as she scoots along and attempts to escape her fate. There's a fourth scene where she is again rescued by Tyrone Power. I also suspect that the scene where she's standing around with the Indians talking might have required several different set-ups to get the shots just right -- for example, the shot where she's held by the chief bad guy Indian and shrinks away while looking up at him in a frightened way while wearing the bit gag was pretty obviously posed. (It's the one that just about everyone makes a vidcap of because it's the best closeup of Penny wearing the bit gag, though it doesn't show the tightness of the gag as well as a profile shot does.) And in every shot where Penny is wearing the bit gag, her hands are tied behind her back (in some shots she might just be holding them behind her back, but there are several shots of them tied as well). This leads to what I think is a logical conclusion: Penny Edwards spent at least four or five hours sitting around tied up, or pretending to be tied up, while wearing that bit gag. Because that's the way movie making works -- you get your actors in place, then they spend enormous amounts of time waiting for the lighting and camera and set guys to get things set up just right. Then there are retakes: things don't always go right on the first take, and though there are a few directors who were famous, or more like it infamous for calling every scene a success after the first take, most directors did the safe thing and took several takes of each scene, so they'd be sure of having something usable when editing time came. Yeah, I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Penny Edwards spent several hours and probably many hours sitting around wearing a bit gag that was commercial bondage scene tight. I thought there might have been some comment about a bondage scene of such stringency. So I checked the IMDB and Googled over a 100 sites deep, using the keywords "Penny Edwards" and "gag." Nary a quote. Compare this to Naomi Watts talking up the stress of the bondage scenes in "Funny Games." I think Penny Edwards also a had a pretty severe bondage experience with that tight bit gag, but it's quite possible she thought nothing of it ... all in a day's work in the 1950s, just as camping out in the wilds of Arizona for the movie was all in a days' work, one of the mild hardships endured by Hollywood types in the effort to make a movie. |
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| Pat Powers |
| Monday March 31 10:19:06 2008 Re: That was one tight bit gag in "Pony Soldiers"! |
| Got the rest of the caps? Sounds like one 'ell of a scene! |
| Jimmy |
| Monday March 31 11:28:15 2008 Interesting Album cover... |
| British band Mystery Jets (no,me neither) second album "Twenty One" has a pair of bare women's feet tied together with a large tie. She's standing on a white canvas. No idea if CD booklet has more pics or when it's released in U.S. My first and probably only post. You have a need to know! Thank you. http://www.subba-cultcha.com/article_album.php?id=7043 |
| Mr Murdoch |
| Monday March 31 11:36:33 2008 Re: That was one tight bit gag in "Pony Soldiers"! |
| Jimmy wrote: > Got the rest of the caps? Sounds like one 'ell of a > scene! The scene is over at major johns in requests section in german but it translates pretty well, ahem |
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| Monday March 31 12:43:19 2008 Re: That was one tight bit gag in "Pony Soldiers"! |
| Jimmy wrote: > Got the rest of the caps? Sounds like one 'ell of a > scene! Yes, I do. I'll put 'em up in an article for next week on my site. It was, however, four or five scenes, and I'd advise you to check out the vidcaps at Major Johns first, to see how it goes. It was a 1950s production, remember, so very tame. Frex,Penny Edwards' twin prows of womanhood do a great job of straining her blouse, but she's wearing a dress made of some heavy brown material that runs from her waist to her ankles, and there's no sight of her legs, though there is an onscreen scene of her ankles being tied (through the dress). Also, I wouldn't be surprised if several of our vidclip makers have the scene, as "Pony Soldiers" shows up a LOT on cable. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday March 31 12:50:33 2008 Re: Funny Games |
| Moxx of Balhoom wrote: > Pat Powers wrote: > Well for my money the best ever Bon-Rom-com OK, I'm DEFINITELY stealing that term. It's too good not to! (and if that > isn't a recognised genre then it certainly should be) is > Tie Me Up Tie Me down, with Victoria Abril spending a > good 2/3 of the movie the bound and gagged prisoner of > Antonio Banderas. > It's funny, it's sexy and bt the end of the movie she's > demanding he tie her up. > I can only think of two other films that fall into this > genre. > All Tied Up is a bit of a putz fest but does redeem > itself with a nice Teri Hatcher chairtie at the end > Then there's Bound & Gagged: A Love story, largely > forgotten now but Ginger Lynn Allen spends most of the > movie the cleave gagged and handcuffed > prisoner of her lesbian lover. A case of never mind the > quality feel the width but still a great little film in my opiniom Good point. There's also "Secretary," which although it had it's dramatic moments had its comedic moments as well, and easily falls under the purview of bonromcomhood. Not much bondage, but LOTS of intensity, because Maggie Gyllenhaal's character REALLY wants it bad! And "Vicious Circles" although it had its dramatic elements too, could easily be considered a Bon-rom-com as the poor little slavegirl finds a way to totally confound her enemies, escape from white wage slavery, free her brother, and give sight to the blind man she loves! (I watched this film recently, the unrated version, and it's a LOT better than I initially thought it was). |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday March 31 13:01:32 2008 Re: Emily Procter |
| Van wrote: > (unsigned poster) wrote: > > I caught a glimps of this commercial for CSI: > Miami. > > Does Emily Procter get bound and gagged in the > upcoming > > episode? > We should tape the Monday *&* Tuesday episodes. Here > are the TV Guide blurbs: Sometime tonight, we should see more of Lisa Sheridan's scene from just before the writer's strike. Unfortunately, her character doesn't survive to make it 3 different times gagged in a season. Preview showed some shots of her gagged face with her lower face in the water. |
| civil |
| Monday March 31 13:18:17 2008 Re: Funny Games |
| > the most bondage-intensive mainstream movie ever made? How about 'You Have My Family's Trust'? |
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| Monday March 31 14:20:32 2008 Re: Brenda Starr |
| Cohen wrote: > Two girls in Sunday's Brenda Starr comic bound and > cleave-gagged. Wondering if people have any comic strip (or book) scenes which they remember as being especially good. I know "Steve Canyon" had a lot of them, and I think I remember some from strips like "Kerry Drake" and elsewhere - most likely "Tarzan" had more than a few - but I never did save any of them. My mother generally used all of the newspaper for wrapping up garbage when I was growing up, and there don't seem to be many adventure comic strips these days. Would especially like to know if there are collected versions of any comic strips available that are recommended for bondage scenes and good art. (Not modern, but from decades gone by.) Thank you. |
| Monday March 31 15:06:37 2008 'Last Lullaby' - New Movie |
| Sounds promising: " ..so he drives his Jeep to the 24-hour mart to shop. There, he eavesdrops on two knuckleheaded thugs — one packing heat — who've kidnapped someoneResponding indifferently to his call for action, Price follows their El Camino to a roadside shack, where inside a young woman is tied to a chair." DinD played by Sprague Grayden, who must be gagged if the villains left her in the shack tiedup |
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| http://www.thelastlullaby.com/index.htm |
| Monday March 31 15:28:46 2008 Re: 'Last Lullaby' - New Movie |
| > DinD played by Sprague Grayden, who must be gagged if the > villains left her in the shack tiedup Never minded the hands-behind-back pose |
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| Monday March 31 15:30:47 2008 Re: That was one tight bit gag in "Pony Soldiers"! |
| Pat Powers wrote: >> Yeah, I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that > I thought there might have been some comment about a > bondage scene of such stringency Director made comments of the long time of having the actress bound in Malovence. Also The Missing with Evan Rachel Wood, and I believe there was comments by the actress about them leaving the gag harness in and gag talking with everyone between shots. |
| civil |
| Monday March 31 15:37:36 2008 Re: That was one tight bit gag in "Pony Soldiers"! |
| Pat Powers wrote: > Also, I wouldn't be surprised if several of our vidclip > makers have the scene, as "Pony Soldiers" shows up a LOT on cable. Yep, I've got that one, though my version is dubbed as well, and I'm missing the brief bit in the tent. However, I notice that it's airing again on Saturday at 9:30am PST/EST (alert posted), so I'll take the opportunity to grab a new clip. |
| Raffish |
| Monday March 31 15:47:26 2008 CSI vs. Medium |
| So, just in case it needs saying, I wanted to mention to our friends on the east coast that a heads-up about any happenings on CSI: Miami and/or Medium would be especially appreciated tonight. There's potential for action on both, but I lack the ability to grab two shows at once, so confirmation either way (with approximate scene times if possible) would make it that much easier for me to come through with clips. Thanks guys. |
| Raffish |
| Monday March 31 16:01:26 2008 You Have My Family's Trust |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > the most bondage-intensive mainstream movie ever made? > How about 'You Have My Family's Trust'? I think this one comes close to, and may be better than, The Collector in terms of length and quality as criteria; both beat out Terror Among Us in terms of scene time and story quality, that is, the scenes within the film as a whole go on for much longer than TAU. The only problem with YHMFT is that it never screened in America, and is not available on DVD so hardly anyone (almost no one in fact) here has seen it in full length (I know there are clips around but not the film). So, in a sense, it will never be best ever if most people can't see it; that sort of applies to TAU too in that it's not on DVD, except that this is an American board so most people here have see it, and The Collector, which is available on DVD. |
| Monday March 31 16:37:17 2008 Re: CSI vs. Medium |
| Raffish wrote: > There's potential for > action on both, but I lack the ability to grab two shows > at once, so confirmation either way (with approximate > scene times if possible) would make it that much easier > for me to come through with clips. Thanks guys. Waiting six years for Emily Procter to get gagged, reporting the news will be no problem. I'd expect a promo scene for Tuesday at worst if she's grabbed in the final minutes. |
| Monday March 31 18:59:46 2008 Re: That was one tight bit gag in "Pony Soldiers"! |
| Pat Powers wrote: > Pony Soldier - One Tight Bit Gag! > Pony Soldier aired on AMC this weekend and I taped it... Damn, I've recorded that movie 3 times now & missed the gag scenes EVERY TIME! it's a fairly long movie and there are 2 scenes so I set my DVD recorder to record 2 sections, trying to catch both scenes (the scene times listed in the database aren't accurate....I found that out the first time I recorded it!). I use the lowesat speed for best quality but that only gives me an hour to play with. The last time it was on I got the first short scene in the tent but disc space ran out right in the middle of her last scene (grrr!). One of these times I'm gonna get it right! Was there an alert for it? I didn't see one. ANyone know if it's gonna air again anytime soon? |
| rex |
| Monday March 31 19:05:07 2008 Re: That was one tight bit gag in "Pony Soldiers"! |
| rex wrote: > ANyone know if it's gonna air again anytime soon? Nevermind....I just saw the alert (thanks Mr. Raffish!!!)...THIS time I'm gonna grab it for sure! Does anyone have the exact time for all the gag scenes? |
| rex |
| Monday March 31 20:01:26 2008 Re: You Have My Family's Trust |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > (unsigned poster) wrote: > > the most bondage-intensive mainstream movie ever > made? > > How about 'You Have My Family's Trust'? > I think this one comes close to, and may be better than, > The Collector in terms of length and quality as criteria; As a metric here, my clips of YHMFT run for 7:33 total, vs. 6:48 for The Collector. I'm pretty sure I didn't miss anything much of interest, since I made both sets from the complete films. (You can see the YHMFT caps and clips for free at the link.) > both beat out Terror Among Us in terms of scene time and > story quality, that is, the scenes within the film as a > whole go on for much longer than TAU. I suspect you're right, though embarrassingly enough, I still haven't made complete clips of TAU. As far as scene time goes, however, there are clearly a number of mainstream films out there that can trounce all of these. My clips of Hana to hebi (aka Flower and Snake) total 36:54, The Great American Snuff Film comes to 24:14, and The Abductors clocks in at 15:33. For other examples, try going to my site and entering, say, "part 3" into the search engine, and selecting "Medium: Movie." |
| Raffish |
| http://bondageparade.com/search.cgi?title=family%27s |
| Monday March 31 20:10:37 2008 Re: CSI Miami Alert- Thanks |
| Those reenactments (tape-g'd chloro) and the lead blonde (cleave)- fun episode huh? and more to come too Thanks for the alert my southern friends |
| Jay L |
| Monday March 31 20:14:33 2008 Re: CSI vs. Medium |
| Raffish wrote: > So, just in case it needs saying, I wanted to mention to > our friends on the east coast that a heads-up about any > happenings on CSI: Miami Believe ours originates out of US? And with you liking chloro, there a chloro and tape gagged reenactment running through the ep. The lead blonde goes on a tip when the H gets arrested by Feds. She a cleave scene right at the end. There, return favour for that southern alert. Fun ep |
| Jay L |
| Monday March 31 20:48:23 2008 Nicky Whelan.... did we miss it? |
| I found this story from 2005, regarding Nicky Whelan tied up in a play. Has anyone heard of it before? http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,16438495-28957,00.html |
| H |
| diddvd@yahoo.com |
| http://diddvd.com |
| Monday March 31 22:17:26 2008 Re: CSI vs. Medium |
| Jay L wrote: > And with you liking chloro, there a chloro and tape > gagged reenactment running through the ep. > The lead blonde goes on a tip when the H gets arrested by > Feds. She a cleave scene right at the end. So you've seen the episode up there? I figured the action wouldn't be till the end so I just tuned in at the 17-minute mark. Did I miss any of the tape gag reinactment? |
| rob roy |
| Monday March 31 22:22:58 2008 Re: CSI vs. Medium |
| rob roy wrote: > Jay L wrote: > > > And with you liking chloro, there a chloro and tape > > gagged reenactment running through the ep. > > The lead blonde goes on a tip when the H gets > arrested by > > Feds. She a cleave scene right at the end. > So you've seen the episode up there? I figured the > action wouldn't be till the end so I just tuned in at the > 17-minute mark. Did I miss any of the tape gag reinactment? Yep. Scene at beginning was of them finding the. But the reenactment showing her drowing was somewhere between the 5 and 15 minute marks. |
| civil |
| Monday March 31 22:34:33 2008 Re: CSI vs. Medium |
| civil wrote: > > > 17-minute mark. Did I miss any of the tape gag > reinactment? > Yep. Scene at beginning was of them finding the. But the > reenactment showing her drowing was somewhere between the > 5 and 15 minute marks. CSI chloro scenes at 27' and again at 30' with her struggling the car before going in. Sorry if you have corpal tunnel syndrome, but I watching the show while changing my dialup to a new company. I will just try to loop my times the best I can. |
| civil |
| Monday March 31 22:36:03 2008 CSI Miami |
| Well crap....massive rainstorm here right now & satellite just went kaput. Hopefully it'll come back on before Emily's gag scene at the end!!! |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Monday March 31 23:10:26 2008 Re: CSI Miami |
| JP wrote: > Well crap....massive rainstorm here right now & > satellite just went kaput. Hopefully it'll come back on > before Emily's gag scene at the end!!! Quick glimpse of her in the final seconds, so have the tape rolling when Horatio opens the gate in Brazil. I'm not expecting much on Tuesday, except a Calleigh wake-up scene where she remembers what happens. Hopefully, the gag will stay on for a few scenes. |
| Monday March 31 23:11:47 2008 Re: CSI Miami |
| JP wrote: > Well crap....massive rainstorm here right now & > satellite just went kaput. Hopefully it'll come back on > before Emily's gag scene at the end!!! Very guick and only a portial view. Preview from last week had more of her in the shot. Around the 58' mark. Preview shows her getting chloroformed with a white rag on Tuesday, but also being lead unbound and gagged. Gag and restraints won't last long on nest episode. |
| Monday March 31 23:32:58 2008 Re: You Have My Family's Trust |
| Raffish wrote: > As far as scene time goes, however, there are clearly a > number of mainstream films out there that can trounce all > of these. Raffish, thanks for the clips; very generous. Imho, the 3 films you mention that have longer scene times don't hold a candle to The Collector or YHMFT in terms of quality. Especially The Collector which was a best selling book and a film with major Oscar nominations. |
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