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Thursday January 03 00:47:35 2008
Face to Face
Another example bubbled to the surface. This one I'm sure about, and I did the research to confirm my memory. Here's the dBase entry:
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Record number: 4320

Title: Surrender (1987)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Sally Field

Description: Daisy Morgan (Field) and Sean Stein (Michael Caine) fall victim to a heist when armed thugs raid a reception, force the guests to strip and bind them face to face in pairs. Stein loses his balance and topples on top of Daisy, much to her displeasure. There follows this bit of dialog:

Daisy: "Lie still"

Sean: "I'm trying"

Daisy (wide-eyed): "Quit moving!

Sean (defensively): "I have to breathe"

Daisy (through clenched teeth): "That's not what you breathe through!"
_______

By "strip" we're talking about undies (bra & panties for Sally). The movie's kinda stoopid, but the stripped-and-tied scene was funny. I also remember liking a later scene where Caine's character looks up Sally's character and asks for a date. Talk about mortified tension! Sally was *so* cute! :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Thursday January 03 01:14:10 2008
Re: Face to Face
Van wrote:

> By "strip" we're talking about undies (bra
> & panties for Sally).

...or maybe they *were* stripped completely and it was shown with careful editing. (You'd think I'd remember if Sally Field was tied topless to Michael Caine! Geesh!) :-/
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Thursday January 03 01:50:18 2008
Re: Chicago Massacre: Richard Speck
Captureher wrote:

> Not to be confused with "Speck" from 2002.
> Anyone know if this latest release on dvd produce any
> scenes? Nothing in database that I could find myself.

I get the movie in emule but i believe that the good action is in Speck 2002
Mandrake
mandraketube@yahoo.com
Thursday January 03 02:38:13 2008
Re: Face to Face
Pat Powers wrote:

> I'm pretty sure Archer and T'Pol wind up tied face to
> face in their incredibly long bondage scene.
> Flash Gordon and Dale Arden are tied face to face in the
> current "Flash Gordon of Canada" TV series. It
> was a Loosie, very bad ropework, just rope wound around
> and around and around the two fo them (by a bounty hunter
> whom you would suppose would know better) but so much
> rope was used that it was credible that it might have
> taken them a few moments to get out of it.
> In "She Spies" the nerdy boss guy and the cute
> blonde who isn't Natasha Henstridge are tied together, I
> think face to face but I am not certain.

Title: Flash Gordon (2007)
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Gina Holden

Description: Episode: "Pride"

At about 20 minutes in DALE (Holden) & Flash get tied up together with a lot of rope simply wound around them. No wrist or ankles bondage and pretty crappy ropework overrall. Cute scene though...

When they finally get free, Dale (Gina) responds to Flash's remark about her attitude with the classic line: "Sorry, alien bondage makes me cranky."

to download this scene :

http://rapidshare.com/files/80339627/Flash_Gordon.wmv.html
Thursday January 03 08:37:35 2008
Interesting movie ad
Has anyone seen this film?
http://images.smashits.com/downloads/wall/1623_4931.jpg
Greg
gb9304@yahoo.com
http://greggerbits.tripod.com
Thursday January 03 08:42:16 2008
Re: Interesting movie ad
Greg wrote:

> Has anyone seen this film?
> http://greggerbits.tripod.com

Been out for a while

http://www.majorjohns.com/V17_51.jpg
Thursday January 03 10:10:07 2008
Re: Life On Mars Season 2 Scene
does anyone who the actress's names who received the treatment on Life on Mars the other nite? I couldn't seem to find them, but then my DVR shut off before the end credits.
rex
Thursday January 03 10:12:47 2008
Re: Face to Face
ss wrote:

> doug wrote:
> > waag wrote:
> > Connie Sellecca
> > Holy Shnikees!

Thanks Dude! Very fine scene, totally overlooked by yours truly all these years. Thankfully, I'm not a putzaphobe and can just enjoy her. Great.
doug
doug5759@yahoo.com
Thursday January 03 10:27:02 2008
Re: Life On Mars Season 2 Scene
Mad Dan wrote:

> Jeb wrote:
> but it might be the one following this one.
> Yes, it is, in ep 6 (?). Next after the mother and
> daughter ep, anyway.
> Very brief and disappointingly loose, but she still looks
> cute. Major putz alert.

Is this pic you posted FROM the upcoming "Life on Mars" episode?? There is an alert for a scene with the cop lady tied to a ladder..is this it, with a "fake" gag added?
Thursday January 03 11:07:05 2008
Law & Order
When the detective removed the duct tape gag from the girl's mouth on L&O last night, you could clearly see another, smaller piece of facing tape on the inside of the gag, obviously to make it easier on the actress.

Of course we've always known that a lot of tape gags on TV aren't sticky, or are backed by something to make them easier to remove.

This is the first time they've made it so obvious. They've apparently abandoned all pretext of realism in this respect. (Who would believe the kidnapper would do that?)

Seems like in the 60's when I was growing up, those white adhesive tape gags were usually nice and, well, adhesive!
Thursday January 03 11:29:39 2008
Re: Capital One commercial
Captureher wrote:

WWS wrote:
There is an
attractive
female heroine behind him with her wrists tied with
rope ...
So judging by the succeeding posts; this ad is airing in
the broadcast football market? Do you remember the time,
day, channel? I record any broadcast I watch to fwd thru
the commercials; unless something visibly stands out or
I'm looking for something in particular I would miss it.
I saw it several times during the Capital One Bowl on ABC on New Year's Day (Michigan vs. Florida). It was fairly elaborate for a quick commercial so I'm sure they plan to run it more. I've seen one of the other similar commercials that ran with it on one of the networks, so this one should be back too. Emma Peel/April Dancer - type heroine is punching out goons near the end of it.

Cinch
Thursday January 03 12:36:44 2008
Re: Life On Mars Season 2 Scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Is this pic you posted FROM the upcoming "Life on
> Mars" episode?? There is an alert for a scene with
> the cop lady tied to a ladder..is this it, with a
> "fake" gag added?

The pic is actually a still that appeared in a TV Mag and is a clearer and closer shot than what appears in the episode.

The gag is real but the scene is a bit of the blinkie and the actress (Liz White) is in the middle distance. It is also rather dark.

If episodes show in the same order as in the UK, I think it should be in the next one, about 5 minutes from the end.
Gaz P
Thursday January 03 12:40:41 2008
Re: Life On Mars Season 2 Scene

> Is this pic you posted FROM the upcoming "Life on
> Mars" episode?? There is an alert for a scene with
> the cop lady tied to a ladder..is this it, with a
> "fake" gag added?

Yes, that's pretty much as she looks in the show. There was some debate at the time over whether the pic was a cap or a staged production still, but the gag is just as it appears here. It made me wonder how it stayed up! The shot is static and rather short.

All the more annoying is that the putz, Sam Tyler, has a good TAPE gag.


Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Thursday January 03 12:57:40 2008
Re: Face to Face
doug wrote:


> Thanks Dude! Very fine scene, totally overlooked by
> yours truly all these years. Thankfully, I'm not a
> putzaphobe and can just enjoy her. Great.

Yeah, I've been wanting to see this one since I caught the preview but not the show when it first ran 16 years ago (cancelled before repeats--d'oh!), so I was pleased to find it. Only wish it continued until they escape--wonder how it plays out.
ss
Thursday January 03 13:41:05 2008
Re: Life On Mars Season 2 Scene
rex wrote:

> does anyone who the actress's names who received the
> treatment on Life on Mars the other nite? I couldn't
> seem to find them, but then my DVR shut off before the
> end credits.

Record number: 13181
Title: Life on Mars
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Hayley McGroarty, unknown
Description: Episode: Episode 2.5 (2.5)
At the 50' mark, the female WPC (detective) goes to the shed to talk to gentleman. As she walks into the shed, she finds the mother and daughter (Hayley) standing in a compartment under the floor. As the detective talks to the man, there are occasional shots from above as the two captives are looking up at the two. The captives have a folded white cloth over their mouths, and that gag is held in plave by brown colored gag the is tied around their heads. No shots of their hands or of them being released.
Thursday January 03 13:43:18 2008
funny games US
was reading this month's TOTAL FILM and there's an interview where naomi watts talks about her 'long,long take' where she's tied up and trying to walk, saying that the ties 'weren't stage ties;they were real' and 'we did it about 3 or 4 times,in one take i couldn't get myself up'.

sounds really great don't suppose anybody's seen it yet, i know it's due out soon.

heard it's a shot for shot remake so there is a lengthy scene if i remember
Thursday January 03 17:47:48 2008
Re: funny games US
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> ... naomi watts talks about ... 'we did
> it about 3 or 4 times,in one take i couldn't get myself
> up'....
> heard it's a shot for shot remake so there is a lengthy
> scene if i remember

It is supposed to be a shot for shot remake and I'm hoping all those takes you mentioned wind up on a DVD with extras.

Captureher
Thursday January 03 18:05:50 2008
Re: Law & Order
> When the detective removed the duct tape gag from the girl's mouth on L&O last night, you could clearly see
another, smaller piece of facing tape on the inside of the gag, obviously to make it easier on the actress.

> Of course we've always known that a lot of tape gags on TV aren't sticky, or are backed by something to make them easier to remove.

> This is the first time they've made it so obvious. They've apparently abandoned all pretext of realism in this respect. (Who would believe the kidnapper would do that?)
----
Unless they've read "The Loving Dominant", as perhaps Antonio Banderas in "Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!" (1990), where he substituted a medical tape gag after Victoria Abril complained of the stickiness of the original gag.
Kinky-napper
Thursday January 03 18:19:42 2008
Re: Life On Mars Season 2 Scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> rex wrote:

> At the 50' mark, the female WPC (detective) goes to the
> shed to talk to gentleman.

Annie Cartwright, having been seconded to the CID, was by then a WDC, i.e. Woman Detective Constable.

The "W" prefix for all female officers was dropped in 1999.
Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Thursday January 03 18:44:27 2008
Re: Law & Order
Kinky-napper wrote:
> Unless they've read "The Loving Dominant", as
> perhaps Antonio Banderas in "Tie Me Up! Tie Me
> Down!" (1990), where he substituted a medical tape
> gag after Victoria Abril complained of the stickiness of the original gag.

Proper medical tape, the cloth kind with zinc oxide adhesive, is among the stickiest of all. It also follows facial contours, sealing well and creating none of those shadows that give away the relatively unyielding duct tape "loosie".

Well I remember the "Sunset Beach" scene in which Laura Harring blows a wisp of hair out of her eye while "gagged" with duct tape. :-)

An oddity that sometimes crops up in movies is the conveniently packaged gag-size rectangle of cloth tape with a non-adhesive dressing strip along the centreline. It's nice and sticky above and below the mouth, but does nothing to seal the lips.
Mad Dan
Thursday January 03 18:59:46 2008
Correction on Possible Alert: Somebody Help Me (2007)
Should be on 1/4/2008 at 8:00 PM.
Thursday January 03 20:24:17 2008
Re: Law & Order
Regarding the tape-gag-with-an-inner-lining thing, I think we can probably field a viable tread listing *other* examples (not that I particularly *want* to). In addition to Mad Dan's "Sunset Beach"/Laura Herring example, here's one other:

The image below is scanned from the "Special #50" issue of the magazine "TV Zone". It's a shot taken by the "STARGÅTE SG-1" set photographer just after Teal'c rescues Sam (Amanda Tapping) in the episode "Forsaken" (6.18), dBase Record number: 8983. If you look to the left of Sam's hand, you see the knife "Murray" just used to cut her cable-tie ankle and wrist bonds. If you look to the *right* of her hand, you see the back of her tape-gag. There's a quarter-inch rim of black which is the actual back of the tape. In the center is a white rectangle of... gauze? ...paper? The gag is (supposedly) black military "60 mph" tape (see second image), so, obviously, they decided to protect Amanda's warm, soft, *kissable* lips {Sigh} rather than go for absolute realism.

This is a surprise? You can't run a movie or TV set and do things that damage the talent. Not only is it not nice, but it causes super-expensive downtime while they wait for scratches and bruises to heal (to the point they can hide them with makeup).

I wish they'd develop a better technology, like some sort of hypoallergenic spray adhesive that adheres to the skin but can be removed without damage, but one things' for sure: You can't fault the production team of "Law & Order" for inattention to detail. A city-wide blackout was an important part of last night's plot, and they simulated *all* the little effects in exquisite detail.

Obviously, it's the norm in the industry to use "cheater tape-gags". Let's hope that changes, but I'm not holding my breath.
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/temporary/forsaken-tvzone-spec50.jpg
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/temporary/at-forsaken.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Thursday January 03 20:37:55 2008
Jayma Mays tied
I found this on my travels.
http://www.pushingdaisiesinsider.com/images/gallery/jayma-mays-on-pushing-daisies.jpg
Wannatieya
Thursday January 03 20:54:05 2008
A litle help over here?
Hopefully you can help me in identifying a scene. It's from a movie in the late 80's or something like that. It's a futuristic film similar to "Mad Max", also set in the desert in which a blond actress(maybe in her mid or late 30s) is b/g for a long time. I remember she's carried OTS and later hidden on a kind of pick-up truck. When the baddies arrive to their destination, there is a line where they mention they have a special delivery or something like that. I'm sorry I don't have more specific information, but I watched this movie on cable a number of years ago.
Hal
Thursday January 03 21:35:50 2008
Re: A litle help over here?
Hal wrote:

> Hopefully you can help me in identifying a scene. It's
> from a movie in the late 80's or something like that.

Sounds like this:

Record number: 2042

Title: Warlords of the 21st Century (1982) aka Battletruck
Medium: Movie
Actress: Annie McEnroe

Description: Tied up and cleave-gagged for a short while
Thursday January 03 22:01:30 2008
Re: Jayma Mays tied
Wannatieya wrote:

> I found this on my travels.

Record number: 13051

Title: Pushing Daisies
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Jayma Mays

Description: Episode: "Pigeon" (1.4)

At the 45' mark (8pm on ABC), Jayma invites the criminal into her windmill, and he ties her up and rips open the stairs to find the jewels. Jayma has her hands bound to each arm of a chair by a one armed man. She manages to stretch the ribbons like rubber bands to get free


civil
Thursday January 03 22:03:07 2008
paperback scene
I just started reading Michael Connelly's newest paperback release, "The Overlook". The early chapters feature a woman who is found on her bed, nude, hogtied with zip cuffs and gagged with a necktie. After she is released, she describes her ordeal to her rescuers.
Rich McGill
Thursday January 03 22:10:37 2008
Re: Law & Order
Speaking of Law and Order, did anyone else happen to catch the preview for next Tuesday's SVU, showed 3 shots of a woman gagged with tape. While law and orders don't usually have the best scenes, the next SVU seems to show promise.
DarkRider

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