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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Saturday February 11 01:27:04 2006 Re: Firewall - guarantee |
| Patrick wrote:
> Check the next to last paragraph of this review. > http://www.triangle.com/movies/story/2892768p-9347547c.htm > Nice find. I checked about 20 reviews on rottentomatoes.com but didn't find any referenes to bound and gagged action, just a lot of "typical kidnapping scenarios." Works for us. |
| Saturday February 11 02:20:38 2006 Re: clear tape gags |
| William the Bloody wrote:
> Check out the DVD for Leelee's commentary where she > mentions the gag was just plastic wrap but that she had > to make it look real so she said she gave good > "mmmphh's" to sell it. I believe she said it's > because she's such a good actress. Kinda funny. > The official Brian's Page database entry says: Record number: 6241 Title: Joy Ride (2001) Medium: Movie Actress: Leelee Sobieski, Jessica Bowman Description: Venna Wilcox (Sobieski) is captured by the killer and used as bait. Venna is handgagged in a dark corn field at about 1:12 into the movie. She is held captive in a hotel room, tied onscreen to a chair, arms behind, with several turns of clear pallet (plastic) wrap and gagged with clear tape that is wrapped around her mouth several times. This happens at about 1:16 in. There is a shotgun at the door, rigged to go off if anyone opens it. The scene is switched back and forth to several times. Numerous close-ups and wondeful mmmppphing by Leelee make this scene a must-see, even for those who despise clear tapegags! ....<snip>.... Scene is approx 4 minutes long when you cut out the side scenes. Lots and lots (and lots) of clear tape used. Not a short scene. I'll have to watch this one again. My post was from memory. Looked like tape to me. That's the magic of Hollywood though. |
| BiG MT |
| bigmt991@yahoo.com |
| Saturday February 11 06:39:15 2006 Best commentary tracks/DVD extras? |
| Okay, so given that the first two entries below have come up this past week, it seems like a good time to ask: what are the most noteworthy recent examples of a little extra catering to our tastes on DVD? For starters, I nominate:
Joy Ride Moonlighting "Atomic Shakespeare" The Big Empty The Wild Card Love Object Chupacabra Terror |
| Raffish |
| Saturday February 11 06:54:31 2006 Re: Old soap scene |
| >>>>>>> kid...maybe it was in the 80's sometime. The DiD
> wore a short skirt, black hose (I think) and she was tied > to a chair. The thing that makes the scene unique was > that she was rescued by a friend of hers dressed as a nun who climbed in through a window. Does anyone remeber or have that scene.<<<<< I recall ALL of it. The DiD wqs a blonde, cute but no super-hottie. Her kidnapper was a dark-haired female assassin. They were in an old hotel room. The scene went on for several days with multiple gagging and ungagging. >>>>nearly positive what you are thinking of is a scene from a short-lived soap named "Texas".<<<<<< That's the one. >>>>I'm not sure if anyone here has it but I can about gurantee you that Brent Smith over at Chivalry Video would have it.<<<<<< I think he has PART of it. The last part. Vince |
| The Greyman |
| Saturday February 11 08:13:18 2006 Re: Nancy Drew |
| Hadji wrote:
> The authors of the Nancy Drew novels, both the originals > and the rewrites, would be moritified with horror to > learn that there are people like us who derive a sexual > thrill from the intrepid girl sleuth being bound and > gagged. They both were socially conservative and sexually > puritanical. I disagree. I think the original author understood on some level the "excitment" her stories generated. Nancy Drew stories are so key in any discussion I have ever had with women who like to, shall we say, indulge in tie up games. I am loving this discussion about the books and the scenes in them, because they bring back great memories. I wish I would have kept all those old books. |
| Snowcat |
| Saturday February 11 08:49:28 2006 Re: "Tie her up and gag her" |
| uncle wrote:
> Sic wrote: > > > > My Uncle the Alien had two good ones. When they first > grab the blonde off the street and drag her to the back > of the van, the one abductor tells the other "gag > her. tie her up. I'll drive." A bit later as > they're driving along and the one guy is in the back > wrestling with the girl while trying to restrain her, the > driver yells at him "tie her up! gag her!" I could be wrong but didn't one of the bad guy in Gridlock order a henchman to 'gag her' (Kathy Ireland) whilst he talked to the 'hoff on the phone? |
| The Goat |
| Saturday February 11 08:50:26 2006 Re: Nancy Drew |
| Snowcat wrote:
> I disagree. I think the original author understood on > some level the "excitment" her stories > generated. Nancy Drew stories are so key in any > discussion I have ever had with women who like to, shall > we say, indulge in tie up games. No, I'd say from the author's viewpoint (especially considering Hadji's statement that they were conservative and puritanical), the "excitement" is more in terms of adrenalin rush than hormonal rush. The tie ups represented the suspense and excitement of the hero or heroine in danger (and the reader's projection of themselves into the situation), same as being threatened with a gun or knife, being trapped in a room with the walls closing in, etc, and seeing how he (she) escapes. This is how most of the world views the bondage element of books, movies, etc. If others, like your indulgent women or posters here, see a sexual angle that's strictly their own interpretation, and has been said here many times before, we are still quite a small minority. |
| LV |
| Saturday February 11 09:25:41 2006 B&G in magazines etc |
| I don't know if this has been mentioned before in the message boards (i'm new to these pages) but is there any way of including a section/category in the D&B for women who have been B&G in written media or Posters etc e.g Ashley Judd in the youth aids posters. Or is this a bad idea on not what the DB is designed for? |
| Tommo |
| Saturday February 11 09:35:22 2006 Suprise bondage |
| Although these pages are excellent for keeping you updated for scenes and possibilities, there are still occassions where someone you never expected or a situation where you'd never have thought there would be bondage takes you unawares. For example, Daisy Donovan on Channel 4's the 11 o'clock show sticking tape over her mouth at the end of a segment on people avoiding street surveys. That really caught me off guard. The only problem with these is they often catch you out so you don't get chance to record them. Still a nice surprise all the same... |
| Red Ken |
| Saturday February 11 09:42:05 2006 Re: DID black &white classics |
| Simon Kade wrote:
> How about Jane Russell in "The Outlaw"? A > favourite scene from the old Superman TV series? What am > I forgetting? One old b&w scene that made an impression on me is Penny Singleton in "Blondie's Big Deal". She takes a job as a secretary and threatens to blow the whistle on her employers..as a result she is taken captive and tied to a chair (hands in front sadly) and gagged detective style. In a nice skirt-suit. Decent struggling. |
| Mark O |
| Saturday February 11 09:49:36 2006 Extreme Dating |
| Jaime-lynn discala. It's not in the database. She is tied up in the trailer. Anyone know if this movie is worth checking out? |
| Grandizer |
| Saturday February 11 11:44:43 2006 Re: B&G in magazines etc |
| Tommo wrote:
> is there any > way of including a section/category in the D&B for > women who have been B&G in written media or Posters No, we won't be trying to take the DB in that direction. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday February 11 11:49:39 2006 Re: B&G in magazines etc |
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> > > No, we won't be trying to take the DB in that direction. Fair 'nough just checking. |
| Tommo |
| Saturday February 11 11:50:58 2006 Re: Best commentary tracks/DVD extras? |
| Raffish wrote:
what > are the most noteworthy recent examples of a little extra > catering to our tastes on DVD? The DVD of Big Trouble in Little China has an extra scene with Suzee Pai, B&G, menaced by the evil madam. |
| Jeb |
| jebdel@yahoo.com |
| http://www.jebsadventurebound.homestead.com |
| Saturday February 11 11:53:03 2006 Re: Nancy Drew |
| LV wrote:
> Snowcat wrote: > I think the original author understood > on > > some level the "excitment" her stories > > generated. Selling books by the million, she must have had a lot of fan mail, and I really can't imagine NOBODY ever telling her he or she found the bondage scenes sexy. Also, successful thriller writers, however conservative, attend literary parties, presentations, exhibitions and the like. Such occasions are rather hard to avoid. The authors mix with show biz celebrities, some of whom have always been sexually unconventional, and stories are related. Also, could the writers of these stories describe tie-ups in convincing detail if they hadn't tried it themselves? They may not have got any kind of sensual buzz out of it, but if they did any research they would surely have met a few who did. Human nature doesn't change - we just describe it in different ways and dwell on different aspects of it. If you are staid and puritanical, and something you have written produces results which horrify you, what do you do? Stop writing such scenes, obviously. But in ND the scenes just keep on coming, and subsequent Bowdlerisation doesn't eliminate them entirely. It's easy to write stories and produce images that are entirely decent and proper, never mentioning or hinting at the S word, but containing bondage that presses buttons for an appreciable percentage of the population. One can't tell simply from the text, or even from biographical material, that the ND authors weren't thinking along the same lines. We certainly shouldn't be putting thoughts in their heads at this distance. > I'd say from the author's viewpoint (especially > considering Hadji's statement that they were conservative > and puritanical), the "excitement" is more in > terms of adrenalin rush than hormonal rush. Undoubtedly. But have you ever noticed the tendency, in drama and fiction, for a climactic danger scene involving both genders to end in a lot of hugging and kissing? Danger is widely said to be an aphrodisiac, and historically this is perfectly understandable. The removal of a threat to one's own security, or to that of an actual or potential partner, is a cue to reproduce while one can, before a new threat appears. It's probably programmed into our genes. Hence the well-documented increase in promiscuity during times of war. If others, like your indulgent > women or posters here, see a sexual angle that's strictly > their own interpretation, and has been said here many > times before, we are still quite a small minority. It's impossible to know just what size of minority we are, because most people still don't talk openly about their triggers, and polls on such subjects (a) don't attract a proper spectrum of the public, and (b) are not always answered truthfully for fear of embarrassment or exploitation. There are certainly enough of us for the makers of The Avengers, curiously about the time the Nancy Drew books were being censored, to play the sexy bondage card deliberately. Patrick MacNee said as much an interview about the show. |
| Mad Dan |
| http://www.whitelord.ath.cx/dansdidnts (just updated) |
| Saturday February 11 12:44:50 2006 Re: Best commentary tracks/DVD extras? |
| Jeb wrote:
> Raffish wrote: > what > > are the most noteworthy recent examples of a little > extra > > catering to our tastes on DVD? > > The DVD of Big Trouble in Little China has an extra scene > with Suzee Pai, B&G, menaced by the evil madam. > http://www.jebsadventurebound.homestead.com Would have loved an extended version of Kim Cattrall's hogtie scene from that movie too. :::Glasses raised::: Kim Cattrall: Fifty in August and still as sexy as ever! |
| Simon Kade |
| SimonKade@yahoo.com |
| http://simonsdamsels.blogspot.com/ |
| Saturday February 11 13:10:50 2006 Re: Nancy Drew |
| > No, I'd say from the author's viewpoint (especially
> considering Hadji's statement that they were conservative > and puritanical), the "excitement" is more in > terms of adrenalin rush than hormonal rush. The tie ups > represented the suspense and excitement of the hero or > heroine in danger (and the reader's projection of > themselves into the situation), same as being threatened > with a gun or knife, being trapped in a room with the > walls closing in, etc, and seeing how he (she) escapes. > This is how most of the world views the bondage element > of books, movies, etc. If others, like your indulgent > women or posters here, see a sexual angle that's strictly > their own interpretation, and has been said here many > times before, we are still quite a small minority. I find some of those other scenarios sexually exciting as well. Polls usually indicate a taste for bondage or some forms of S&M among a large portion of the population--at least 25% or so. And everyone knows how popular 'bad boys', who give off a whiff of danger, are among women. I read somewhere a reference to Nancy and Ned never doing anything sexual, that his touching her was mostly confined to helping untie her etc. That is a whole other angle that might have been developed. How to have two teenagers do exciting things together without, you know... |
| ss |
| Saturday February 11 13:21:55 2006 Re: "Tie her up and gag her" |
| There is an Austrailian B thriller called "Act of Betrayal". In it the head bad guy tells his henchman "Tie her up and gag her". The the cute young mom screams. The bad guy shouts "GAG HER!". She is treated to a nice tight, knotted cleave gag. Plenty of Mmmmphing, head shaking, gag chewing and close ups. The gag is eventually pulled from her mouth by her son, revealing the soggy knot.
A very good scene. |
| Cinchy Guy |
| Saturday February 11 14:01:30 2006 Re: Extreme Dating |
| Grandizer wrote:
> Jaime-lynn discala. It's not in the database. She is tied > up in the trailer. Anyone know if this movie is worth > checking out? Could we all have missed this? Man, I have been looking for a scene from her for awhile now. In the trailer, she is tied to a chair, hands behind, with feet tied. She is not looking at the camera, so you cannot see if she is gagged, but the putz who is in the same predicament two feet away is. I would be very disappointed if she doesn't catch the cloth in this one. Also, a nice handgag scene when she is taken. |
| tripper |
| Saturday February 11 14:19:43 2006 Attn: Handgaggers |
| > invite any Handgag,
> or gal on gal handgag fans over there who'd like to watch it for laughs Batgirl, or Biker Batgirl handgagged a cheerleader on that crazy Japanese show, along with the usual antics that ensure this show only going to air @Midnight See those interested over on Trades Page |
| Jay L |
| Saturday February 11 17:34:46 2006 Re: Best commentary tracks/DVD extras? |
| Simon Kade wrote:
> Would have loved an extended version of Kim Cattrall's > hogtie scene from that movie too. :::Glasses raised::: > Kim Cattrall: Fifty in August and still as sexy as ever! > http://simonsdamsels.blogspot.com/ I'll drink to that! I'll even go so far as to say she actually looks prettier than she did in her Big Trouble days. |
| Mark O |
| Saturday February 11 18:13:46 2006 Stargate |
| Anyone got any more info on this? Aired yesterday.
Title: Stargate SG-1 aka Stargåte SG-1 aka Stargate: SG-1 Medium: TV Series Actress: Amanda Tapping Description: Episode: "Off the Grid" (9.16) In the first half of the episode, SG-1 is undercover on an agricultural planet, investigating the Lucian Alliance. They're dressed in leather costumes, & Sam's blouse is a virtual corset! She's showing more cleavage than... ever!! Anyway, they're all captured & bound with single wide leather thongs---around the throat, down the back, then around the wrists. They get interrogated (slapped & punched around) then are rescued via Asgard beam by an earth ship. ANYway... great cleavage on Sam, & she (like the others) looks genuinely helpless. |
| Mel Gibson |
| Saturday February 11 19:44:17 2006 Re: Extreme Dating |
| Grandizer wrote:
> Jaime-lynn discala. It's not in the database. She is tied > up in the trailer. Anyone know if this movie is worth > checking out? She is tied up quite a bit in this, along with a woman whose name I forget (and a couple of guys). Unfortunately, her gag scene is pretty bad. She is sitting far from the camera and her head is turned away the whole time. She is ungagged right away (we get a close up of the guy's gag being taken off, lucky us). Someone comes to the door and one of the captors says "Put their gags back in". We later see the guy hopping around bound and gagged again, but never her. Pretty doggone disappointing. |
| Thrillhouse |
| Saturday February 11 19:48:17 2006 Re: Stargate |
| Mel Gibson wrote:
> Anyone got any more info on this? Aired yesterday. > > Title: Stargate SG-1 aka Stargåte SG-1 aka > Stargate: SG-1 > Medium: TV Series > Actress: Amanda Tapping > > Description: Episode: "Off the Grid" (9.16) > > In the first half of the episode, SG-1 is undercover on > an agricultural planet, investigating the Lucian > Alliance. They're dressed in leather costumes, & > Sam's blouse is a virtual corset! She's showing more > cleavage than... ever!! Anyway, they're all captured > & bound with single wide leather thongs---around the > throat, down the back, then around the wrists. They get > interrogated (slapped & punched around) then are > rescued via Asgard beam by an earth ship. ANYway... great > cleavage on Sam, & she (like the others) looks genuinely helpless. I'm the one that posted the dBase entry. So, "Mel", ...what more do you want? The name of the cow they made Sam's costume from? How 'bout some negatives? No gag. No closeups of bound wrists. No Sam nipples. No unicorns. :-) Seriously, if you wait a week or so & do a google image search along the lines of "Stargate Off the Grid", you ought to scare up some screencaps. |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.lovetied.com/dug/ |
| Saturday February 11 20:53:45 2006 favourite mmmphers |
| Having looked at the recent clip from V.I.P on kerkap's page i have to say Pamela Anderson does an excellent mmmmph. Anyone out there got any other particular favourites? |
| neil pie |
| Saturday February 11 21:06:41 2006 Re: favourite mmmphers |
| Anyone out there got any other particular favourites?
Kathryn Harrold in "The Hunter" |
| kramer |
| Saturday February 11 21:48:02 2006 Just how much mainstream interest in bondage is there? |
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This post was deleted. Poster: Hermango Reason: Off-topic. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday February 11 21:48:29 2006 Re: Just how much mainstream interest in bondage is there? |
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This post was deleted. Poster: WMD Reason: Off-topic. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday February 11 21:48:55 2006 "Telus Idol" |
| A couple of caps from a film made by a company run by shitbags. There isn't anything on further pages, so don't bother looking.
If you have telus as an isp, this site will probably be blocked since telus likes censoring certain websites. Link to video is http://www.cupwnewvision.org/dumbass/Telus-Idol.wmv |
| AsbestosFilter |
| asbestosfilter@gmail.com |
| http://cupwnewvision.org/more1.htm |
| Saturday February 11 22:49:24 2006 Firewall |
| Maybe I missed it, but how good is the scene with Madsen? |
| The Knotty Professor |
| Saturday February 11 23:01:22 2006 Re: Firewall |
| The Knotty Professor wrote:
> Maybe I missed it, but how good is the scene with Madsen? Show a clip just now on Hollywood Heat on Court TV. It showed Ford looking at his wife and kids on the sofa with their hands bound behind them and tape gagged. The next clip showed him peeling the tape off of his daughter and then off of his wife. The tape is about 2" wide and is a clear type and you can see his wife's lips through it as he removes it. |
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