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Friday February 10 00:31:15 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE
GAGLIANNO wrote:

> This episode had to be the ultimate tease of all time.
> About 40 minutes in the bad guy chloroforms soem cutie.
>
My all-time No. 1 is the Alyson Hannigan scene in "Buffy" where she sees the duct tape coming at her mouth before commercial and we don't even see her tied when they come back. That was before Alyson eventually got the gag.

This show "Smallville" is simply a bad joke from our perspective. I knew nothing would happen beyond what they showed in the promo, simply because of their track record.
Friday February 10 00:39:34 2006
Re: Comedy bondage
I'm kinda partial to the scene in Whoops Apocalypse, with the cute blond Brit princess displayed to the public in bondage gear, a very skimpy leather bikini and nothing else, unable to escape because she's bound, unable to communicate to passers-by that she's a genuine damsel in distress because of her gag, and EXTREMELY frustrated about her situation.
Pat Powers
patpowers1995@yahoo.com
http://www.hentairevue.com
Friday February 10 00:41:39 2006
DAMSELS UNDER GLASS is Updated!
"Jackie & the Maid", a new one-chapter story, is posted to DAMSELS UNDER GLASS. Enjoy!
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/dug-banner.gif
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Friday February 10 01:37:36 2006
Moonlighting DVD release
Saw that Moonlighting Season 3 DVD was released on Feb 7th.
Contains the popular "Atomic Shakespeare" episode.
BiG MT
bigmt991@yahoo.com
Friday February 10 01:41:44 2006
Re: clear tape gags
Can anyone out there reccommend any films with clear/translucent tape gags


Leelee Sobieski in Joy Ride
BiG MT
bigmt991@yahoo.com
Friday February 10 01:44:59 2006
Re: Trace possible
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> On same subject, which network shows have infuriated you
> the most this season for lack of scenes based on good
> premises. My picks.
>
> 1. "Bones". This show has been a nightmare. Not
> one scene even with a guest. Bad ratings might help
> before the season ends.
> 2. "Numbers"
> 3. "Without a Trace"
> 4. Lifetime's "Missing."

For the second season in a row..."Veronica Mars."

I figure I'll have better odds at hitting Lotto/Powerball before I (or anybody else) sees a scene from that show. So many teasers in previews...but nothing.
Gagged Damsel Lover
Friday February 10 02:00:42 2006
Re: Trace possible
Gagged Damsel Lover wrote:

> For the second season in a row..."Veronica
> Mars."
>
> I figure I'll have better odds at hitting Lotto/Powerball
> before I (or anybody else) sees a scene from that show.

I thought the same thing with Alyson Hannigan on "Buffy." Thought it would never happen but it finally did. Problem here is I don't think "Veronica Mars" will make it to Season 6, Episode 17, like the Buffmeister did.
Friday February 10 03:43:38 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE
GAGLIANNO wrote:

> This episode had to be the ultimate tease of all time.
> About 40 minutes in the bad guy chloroforms soem cutie.
> When another girl comes to the door she knows something
> is not right and searches the basement. The first girl is
> there tied to a chair with a bandanna/scarf, etc. around
> her neck, impying that she was gagged or blindfolded. The
> bad guy sees the girl about to free the other and grabs
> her and ties her up as well. Now the first girl starts to
> give him lip, so I say good, he'll shut her up by putting
> the gag around her neck into her mouth. Nope he just
> let's her yack away. Just goes to show that a bunch of
> putzes write these shows or maybe they were gonna gag
> this actress and she made a stink and screamed bloody
> murder about it, only thing I can figure.

This episode was an infuriating disappointment. I curtailed my workout in order to get home in time to watch it, and I am enriled that I left the gym early for no good purpose.
There were countless lapses in logic in the later segments of the plot. Erica Durance was tied to a chair in the basement and had a white cloth around her neck, obviously a gag; why wasn't it in her mouth? Wouldn't it be logical for the serial killer to keep her gagged as much as possible, especially when there was someone at the door? Furthermore, Ms. Durance could've alerted Allison Mack to her presence in the basement with a series of "mmph" sounds through her gag.
I concur with Gaglianno, the serial killer could easily have gagged the two girls when they began taunting him and making admonitory comments. He never did. The minds of the clods who write this show are unfathomable.
Hadji
Friday February 10 03:55:34 2006
Re: Nancy Drew
Cleaver wrote:

> Nancy Drew was the true catalyst into this world for me,
> back at a very young age. As such, I'm pretty familiar
> with the books, especially the original yellow bound
> ones. Here's the listing of books where one (or all) of
> the girls gets at least bound. Gags often acompany, but
> not always. I try to explain as best my memory allows.

Cleaver, your phenomenal memory and generosity are duly noted and appreciated. I'd like to extend my most heartfelt thanks to you for compiling this informative and helpful list.
I have attempted to discern whether there is a pattern to Nancy Drew's being bound and gagged, but it appears that none exists. I calculated the interval between books in which she is bound and gagged, and it varies between one and seven. Our intrepid female sleuth is bound and gagged in consecutive titles, "The Clue of the Black Keys" and "Mystery at the Ski Jump".
This series was continued in paperback. The two titles that I recall that contained the best bondage scenes were "The Mystery of the Winged Lion", in which all three girls are bound and gagged, and "The Case of the Disappearing Diamonds", in which a quartet of girls is bound and gagged. It would be nice to know in which titles among the paperbacks Nancy drew is bound and gagged, so I might be able to discern a bondage pattern.
Hadji
Friday February 10 06:45:13 2006
Re: clear tape gags
BiG MT wrote:

> Leelee Sobieski in Joy Ride

Joyride! Forgot all about that one.
Anubis
http://www.anuvids.com/
Friday February 10 08:35:06 2006
Re: clear tape gags
Anubis wrote:
Joyride! Forgot all about that one.

Not a movie, but Dangerous Curves had a good one with the 2 leads stuffed with cotton balls and clear taped - great scene.

Major John
Friday February 10 08:44:20 2006
Re: clear tape gags
That horrible movie 2001: A Space Travesty had a very nice translucent one. That girl was very hot! Whether it was worth sitting through such an awful movie is another matter. I'm a huge Leslie Neilsen fan, but that was truly bottom of the barrel.
Wavy
verywavy@yahoo.com
Friday February 10 08:51:18 2006
Re: clear tape gags
Wavy wrote:

> That horrible movie 2001: A Space Travesty had a very
> nice translucent one. That girl was very hot! Whether it
> was worth sitting through such an awful movie is another
> matter. I'm a huge Leslie Neilsen fan, but that was truly
> bottom of the barrel.


Yeah it was terrible that God for DVD's and fast forward buttons so you can skip past all the rubbish to get to the only 5-6 seconds of the film worth watching.
ronglish
Friday February 10 09:14:25 2006
Old soap scene
There's an old soap scene I remember fomr when I was a kid...maybe it was in the 80's sometime. The DiD wore a short skirt, black hose (I think) and she was tied to a chair. The thing that makes the scene unique was that she was rescued by a friend of hers dressed as a nun who climbed in through a window. Does anyone remeber or have that scene.
Friday February 10 11:18:44 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE
> GAGLIANNO wrote:
> This episode had to be the ultimate tease of all time.

> Hadji wrote:
> This episode was an infuriating disappointment.

Well, I didn't get a chance to watch it last night. It is saved on the TiVo, but it sounds like it didn't deliver. I'll bet that it was an editing thing on the gag for Durance. They had to cut time or the network thought it might be a little "too real".

This is kind of like Kirsten Dunst in Toy Solders, there is something around the neck, we know what it is supposed to be, why have it there if you're not going to use it, just put the scene in.
Big D
Friday February 10 11:44:52 2006
Re: Old soap scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> There's an old soap scene I remember fomr when I was a
> kid...maybe it was in the 80's sometime. The DiD wore a
> short skirt, black hose (I think) and she was tied to a
> chair. The thing that makes the scene unique was that she
> was rescued by a friend of hers dressed as a nun who
> climbed in through a window. Does anyone remeber or have that scene.

My memory is just shot to hell anymore but I'm sure there are others here who can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm nearly positive what you are thinking of is a scene from a short-lived soap named "Texas". This soap, for not being on the air all that long had some absolutely incredible bondage scenes IMHO, and the one you described was one. I'm not sure if anyone here has it but I can about gurantee you that Brent Smith over at Chivalry Video would have it.
David Knight
http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com
Friday February 10 11:46:12 2006
see no evil
I don't know if this has already been reported, but there's another god-awful looking horror film set for a May release, this time starring Kane, apparently a WWF wrestler. As you may have intuited, my interest in the film itself was not what prompted this post; rather, if you go to the following link

http://seenoevilthemovie.com/

then click on "gallery" and scroll through the pics, you'll see 1) a woman in a cage, 2) a woman strapped down on a medical gurney with restraints, and c) a woman arms-over-head with an over-the-mouth gag. I'm not sure if it's the same woman in all the pics, but there's a Elisha Cuthbert look alike who I hope also gets the full treatment (before her almost certain demise, undoubtedly after having sex, etc.) And just to re-emphasize the obvious: the movie really does look terrible. (Um, I read that the original title was "Eye Scream Man," which may give you a hint of the level of wit to be expected from this film.)

dg
Friday February 10 11:51:18 2006
Carmen Electra---Kong Bait
...& speaking of "Date Movie"...

Yes, it *is* Carmen Electra & *yes* it is in the movie & yes she is tied in a standing spread-eagle & fondled by a giant mechanical ape hand... & the *likes* it!!

(No gag, but I speculate she has a no-gag-while-fondled-by-giant-animals clause in her contract, like most actresses.)

The imbd doesn't allow direct image links, so here's the URL of the jpeg itself:
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0466342/002A.jpg
...& the URL to the imdb image page is below.
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0466342/Ss/0466342/002A.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0466342
Friday February 10 12:03:23 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE
> My all-time No. 1 is the Alyson Hannigan scene in
> "Buffy" where she sees the duct tape coming at
> her mouth

Similiar to what happened to Lindsay Lohan in 'Freaky Friday' (but at least she got a nice handgag)
Friday February 10 12:35:11 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > My all-time No. 1 is the Alyson Hannigan scene in
> > "Buffy" where she sees the duct tape coming at
> > her mouth
>
> Similiar to what happened to Lindsay Lohan in 'Freaky
> Friday' (but at least she got a nice handgag)

I hate to poop on the urban legend party, but before the misconception gets *too* solidified... the duct tape was coming at Alyson's *EYES*. It was a blindfold. Of course, the geeks should have blindfolded *&* gagged her, but for all we know, they did... off screen. :-}
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Friday February 10 12:38:31 2006
Okay, now it'g getting personal!!
~
Record number: 429

Title: The Big Valley
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Linda Evans, Jeanne Cooper

Description: Episode: "Tunnels of Gold" (1.29)

The ladies are captured by thieves who are tunneling into a Wells Fargo office full of gold that's ready for shipment. They are tied back-to-back to a pole and gagged with blue bandanna cleaves. The bad guys' tunneling has caused gas to fill the basement where they are bound, so unless the pair are rescued, they'll die from asyphyxia. Several good closeups, in a lengthy scene
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hell, up to know, this page has been a fun hobby. Now, it's getting personal. I gots me money in WELLS FARGO!!!!
AZKNIGHTOWLF
Friday February 10 12:58:17 2006
Re: clear tape gags
BiG MT wrote:

> Can anyone out there reccommend any films with
> clear/translucent tape gags
>
>
> Leelee Sobieski in Joy Ride

Though self inflicted, the tape gag that Alicia Silverstone wears in "Excess Baggage" is clear. It ends up between her teeth and perhaps not exactly what you're after...but looks quite nice on her. Apologies if scene already mentioned, didn't backtrack more than a day.

Simon
http://members.cox.net/felixkorde/alicia.jpg
Simon Kade
SimonKade@yahoo.com
http://simonsdamsels.blogspot.com/
Friday February 10 12:58:56 2006
Re: Nancy Drew
Cleaver wrote:
Here's the listing of books where one (or all) of
> the girls gets at least bound. Gags often acompany, but
>
> #3 The Bungalow Mystery (just Nancy, no gag)
> #4 Mystery at Lilac Inn (just Nancy, gag, picture)
Note: reprint contains a diff b/g scene than the 1930 original printing

> #5 Secret of Shadow Ranch (all 3 girls, no gags I
> think)
> #6 Secret of Red Gate Farm (all 3 girls, no gags I
> think)
> #11 Clue of the Broken Locket (nancy and another girl,
> gags)
> #14 The Whispering Statue (Nancy, gag I think)
> #16 Clue of the Tapping Heels (Nancy, gag, picture)
Note: reprint contains diff b/g scene than 1939 original

> #19 Quest of the Missing Map (Nancy and a couple other
> girls)
> #21 The Secret in the Old Attic (Nancy, gag)
> #27 Secret of the Wooden Lady (Nancy, George, maybe
> Bess?)
> #28 The Clue of the Black Keys (Nancy, gag)
> #29 Mystery at the Ski Jump (Nancy, gag)
> #30 Clue of the Velvet Mask (Nancy and Bess, blindfolds)
> #31 The Ringmaster's Secret (Nancy and George, gags)
> #34 The Hidden Window Mystery (all three girls, I think
> gags)
> #36 Secret of the Golden Pavilion (Nancy, gag, Ned also)
> #38 Mystery of the Fire Dragon (Nancy x2, Bess w/
> Blindfold, another
> girl, 2 pictures)
>
I hope this helps anybody who was interested!

add: Clue of the Old Album 1947
Mystery of the Ivory Charm 1936
Scarlet Slipper Mystery 1954
The Swami's Ring 1981
Mystery of the Winged Lion 1982
Secret at Seven Rocks 1991
Secret at Solaire 1993
Fortune-Teller's Secret 1994
Secret of the Scarlet Hand 1995
Case of the Vanishing Veil 1988
Baby Sitter Burglaries 1996
Emerald Eyed Cat Mystery 1984
Race Against Time 1982
Silver Cobweb 1983
Search for Cindy Austin 1988
Nancy Drew Ghost Stories 1983
Hit & Run Holiday 1986
Deadly Doubles 1987
Circle of Evil 1987
Trial by Fire
Very Deadly Yours
Sinister Paradise
Trouble in Tahiti
Danger in Disguise
False Impressions
Deep Secrets
Don't Look Twice
Hot Pursuit
Stage Fright
Dance til you Die
Stolen Kiss
Under his Spell
Rehearsing for Romance
Double Crossing
Dead on arrival

A few notes to add:
The original publishers were Grosset & Dunlap, those are the old yellow-spine hardbacks. When they "modernized" Nancy and went to quick-production paperbacks, the publisher was Archway or Minstrel (both had it at one time or another)

Also, there were many publishers who tried to copy the wildfire success of Nancy Drew, and even Grosset & Dunlap tried to see how many of these types of books they could put out to milk the cash cow. So also check out
The Dana Girls mysteries
Kay Tracey mysteries
Vicki-Barr, Stewardess
Penny Nichols mysteries
Penny Parker mysteries
Dorothy Dixon mysteries

Generally, the older books had the better scenes because they weren't out to make Nancy "politically correct" which was making its big move when Nancy went paperback. Most of the paperback scenes were a page or 2 long. One of the most unique scenes I've ever read though, was in Very Deadly Yours:
Nancy is grabbed, and the bad guy says to his accomplice "Tie her up", and they do gag her, but then just hustle her over to a car trunk and throw her inside. So she's gagged, but never tied. In the trunk, during the abduction, she ungags herself, then thinks better of making the bad guy with the gun mad, and actually re-gags herself before the trunk is opened. It was one of the strangest scenes I'd ever read.
-val
valkyrie
http://valthesub.net
Friday February 10 13:10:56 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE
Van wrote:

> I hate to poop on the urban legend party, but before the
> misconception gets *too* solidified... the duct tape was
> coming at Alyson's *EYES*. It was a blindfold. Of
> course, the geeks should have blindfolded *&* gagged
> her, but for all we know, they did... off screen.

They showed the tape through her eyes coming at her. I don't think it ever got close enough to tell whether it was coming to her mouth or eyes. But why would they *blindfold* her when she already saw the geeks? The next scene had Alyson in a public arcade unbound, so why the need for a blindfold on the transport? We'll have to check the tape on this one, but I don't think it was logged because there wasn't a tie-up. I think it was earlier in Season 6 before Alyson got the gag anyway.
Friday February 10 13:22:03 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE
> They showed the tape through her eyes coming at her. I
> don't think it ever got close enough to tell whether it
> was coming to her mouth or eyes.

This is all pretty pointless speculation
Friday February 10 13:35:40 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> GAGLIANNO wrote:
>
> > This episode had to be the ultimate tease of all
> time.
> > About 40 minutes in the bad guy chloroforms soem
> cutie.
> >
> My all-time No. 1 is the Alyson Hannigan scene in
> "Buffy" where she sees the duct tape coming at
> her mouth before commercial and we don't even see her
> tied when they come back. That was before Alyson
> eventually got the gag.
>
> This show "Smallville" is simply a bad joke
> from our perspective. I knew nothing would happen beyond
> what they showed in the promo, simply because of their track record.

Now, it is possible the gagged (or blindfold) scene was deleted for time (maybe she was gagged and got it out herself). The Smallville DVDs include deleted scenes, hopefully it might be there. Could be in store for more disappointment, but something to keep in mind.
Gratefuldead Roger
Friday February 10 13:43:51 2006
Three Burials for Melquiades Estrada
I plan on seeing the movie in about five hours out here on the SoCal West Coast. It's only in one theatre in all the county so I will report tomorrow on the January Jones DiD scene...I hope!!!!
Nite Owl
Friday February 10 13:49:26 2006
Re: Can someone fake this?
JH wrote:

> Eva Herzigova
I got duped - the link produced this - please delete. the link was here:

http://images.sexiest100.org/evaherzigova,1.jpg

JH
Friday February 10 13:49:52 2006
Re: Nancy Drew







The clue of the velvet mask have two gils blinfolds & gagged
cicisaur
Friday February 10 13:56:19 2006
Re: Nancy Drew
Val--

Above and beyond the call of duty. Huge round of applause for your scholarship.

My personal fave is the original "Mystery at Lilac Inn", with the villainess gloating over Nancy; the front-of-book illustration from that one is just a classic.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.jebsadventurebound.homestead.com
Friday February 10 14:00:11 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Van wrote:
>
> > I hate to poop on the urban legend party, but before the
> > misconception gets *too* solidified... the duct tape was
> > coming at Alyson's *EYES*. It was a blindfold. Of
> > course, the geeks should have blindfolded *&* gagged
> > her, but for all we know, they did... off screen.
>
> They showed the tape through her eyes coming at her. I
> don't think it ever got close enough to tell whether it
> was coming to her mouth or eyes. But why would they
> *blindfold* her when she already saw the geeks? The next
> scene had Alyson in a public arcade unbound, so why the
> need for a blindfold on the transport? We'll have to
> check the tape on this one, but I don't think it was
> logged because there wasn't a tie-up. I think it was
> earlier in Season 6 before Alyson got the gag anyway.

The Legion of Dorkness geeks were invisible, remember? Willow had found their lair, but didn't know what was what... then she finds the blueprints of the weapon, the weapon itself, then... "Congratulations. You're our first hostage." Why blindfold her? ...to make her easier to control? ...to keep her from knowing where they were taking her? ...because?? It's not how *I* would have handled Willow (so to speak), but I'm not a geek. ...honest!

Seriously, the next time you see the episode, think to yourself "Here comes the blindfold!" Suddenly, all the gag-frustration drains away. ;-)

For general info, the season 6 episode title is "Gone", & to be fair, I found a site that includes a detailed synopsis, & the author thinks the tape was a gag as well.
http://www.sunnydale-slayers.com/episodes/egone.html

I stand by my Blindfold Theory, but by all means, lets continue arguing about things that fictional characters didn't do. :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Friday February 10 14:03:01 2006
"Tie her up and gag her"
Co-incidentally, I recently posted in Val's yahoo group about one of my favorite film scenes, "The Baby", and the fact that one of the reasons I like it so much is Ruth Roman's classic instruction to the bad girls to "tie her up and gag her."

And while I'm not advocating it become a standard part of Database entries, that kind of instruction to the "henchpersons" is something that really enhances a scene for me, and can move a good one into the great category.

I can think of a couple more instances of that kind of dialog (Die Die My Darling-- "gag and bind her"; the WW ep with Andrew Duggan gagging Diana P), but I'd be interested in hearing other folks' favorite versions of it. There's probably a bunch I've missed!

So, what's your favorite scene with some variation of of "Tie her up and gag her"?
Jeb
Friday February 10 14:03:35 2006
Re: clear tape gags
Major John wrote:
>
> Not a movie, but Dangerous Curves had a good one with the
> 2 leads stuffed with cotton balls and clear taped - great
> scene.
>
Speaking of Crimetime After Primetime, Teri Austin and Sandra Nelson were gagged with translucent tape in their back-to-back scene in "Scene of the Crime".

I can't believe no one has mentioned Single White Female unless they don't consider the tape used to gag her as translucent. You could certainly see her lips underneath.
MadFish
Friday February 10 14:06:00 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE

> > My all-time No. 1 is the Alyson Hannigan scene in
> > "Buffy" where she sees the duct tape
> coming at
> > her mouth before commercial and we don't even see
> her
> > tied when they come back. That was before Alyson
> > eventually got the gag.


I remember getting really annoyed at the scene with the tape coming at her mouth then the cut to her unbound at the arcade. I think i gave up on the series at that point (having waited for some time) thinking it was never gonna happen then a few years later i get the internet and i find out on these pages that it happened a few episodes later so i have to get the DVD. Typical of my luck that.
red ken
Friday February 10 14:08:51 2006
T J Hooker
Does anyone have an idea when T J Hooker series 4 (I believe this is the best series for bondage) might be coming out on DVD? I've checked on google but can only find series 1 and 2 and no release date for 4
Sparks
Friday February 10 14:09:03 2006
Re: Nancy Drew
Jeb wrote:
> Val--
> Above and beyond the call of duty. Huge round of applause
> for your scholarship.
>

Aww, crumbs, I knew I forgot something! the credits!
That was all "Mr. Irony", whom I referenced yesterday.
When I first found his site, years & years ago, I made a copy of his archives, cuz I thought that was a pretty clever list. He made one for romance, sci fi, and everything. He even went so far as to list who the damsel was by name, abbreviations for the scene (b/g/c/e where "c" = chloroform, and I never did find out what e stands for?) and how many times the damsel was captured (sometimes more than once, esp. in the Jon Norman "Gor" novels) and he gave 1-5 star ratings. very useful. Me, I kinda look at it like the scene database here- if I was going to watch the movie anyway, then I'd Def watch if there's a scene in it, but a lame movie is still a lame movie even with a good scene in it. Also, I always like to joke that when I was reading these, I thought they were just mystery novels, as opposed to you guys for whom it was "sex education" he he he...

valkyrie
http://valthesub.net
Friday February 10 14:52:49 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
Jeb wrote:

> And while I'm not advocating it become a standard part of
> Database entries, that kind of instruction to the
> "henchpersons" is something that really
> enhances a scene for me

Not a problem
Just post over on Database Corrections the line you want added to what entry
and I'll get it in there for you
Jay L
Friday February 10 15:19:01 2006
Re: clear tape gags

>
> I can't believe no one has mentioned Single White Female
> unless they don't consider the tape used to gag her as
> translucent. You could certainly see her lips underneath.


I reckon that scene counts, its probably one of my favourite scenes of all time too.
Red Ken
Friday February 10 15:55:00 2006
DB
This post was moved to Database Corrections.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: That is where corrections to the Database are looked after
The Moderator
Friday February 10 16:23:00 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
Jay L wrote:

> Jeb wrote:
>
> > And while I'm not advocating it become a standard
> part of
> > Database entries, that kind of instruction to the
> > "henchpersons" is something that really
> > enhances a scene for me
>
> Not a problem
> Just post over on Database Corrections the line you want
> added to what entry
> and I'll get it in there for you

I probably wasn't clear. That info is already in the Database in this case (I wrote the entry), and I'm not suggesting that everyone add it to their descriptions-- it's not something that necessarily matters to others.

But I am curious to read other posters' examples of that sort of dialog.
Jeb
Friday February 10 16:30:56 2006
Re: clear tape gags
Anubis wrote:

> BiG MT wrote:
>
> > Leelee Sobieski in Joy Ride
>
> Joyride! Forgot all about that one.

Leelee Sobieski was gagged with plastic wrap in "Joyride", not tape. It was transparent, however.
Hadji
Friday February 10 16:35:12 2006
Re: clear tape gags
Alarm fur cobra 11: "Der Joker"
Two gals in equestrian dress transparent tape-gagged
cicisaur
Friday February 10 16:36:25 2006
Re: Can someone fake this?
JH wrote:

> JH wrote:
> http://images.sexiest100.org/evaherzigova,1.jpg


I faked an uncropped version of that pic years ago, and it was on display at The IHOB on Lycos until that server pulled the plug on its groups service. Red tape to match her swimsuit, IIRC.

Sadly, I'd lost my own copy when the CD it was on got damaged, so I can no longer share it. I'm sure somebody out there has a copy; if he or she could forward it to me by e-mail at my site, I'd be most grateful. Same goes for any of the hundreds of other images I lost in that crash. Thanks, friends.

MD
Mad dDan
http://www.whitelord.ath.cx/dansdidnts
Friday February 10 16:38:51 2006
Re: Can someone fake this?
Mad dDan wrote:

Don't remember acquiring a stutter! :-(
Mad Dan
Friday February 10 17:37:31 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
Jeb wrote:

>
> So, what's your favorite scene with some variation of of "Tie her up and gag her"?

I can't recall the episode title but in one episode of Knight Rider Patricia McPherson is captured and the villian instructs his men to 'take her in the other room and tie her up'

Then there was the Six Million Dollar Man episode where Lee Majors says to Britt Ekland (playing one of the criminal gang holding him captive
"I thought we could spend these last few minutes alone"
"What do you mean last few minutes"
"These last few minutes while i tie you up"
Cut to Ekland cleve gagged and tied to chair.

moxx of balhoom
Friday February 10 17:46:08 2006
Re: Old soap scene
David Knight wrote:

I guarantee (sic)you that Brent Smith over at Chivalry Video would have it.

I have that scene on a Soap scene tape from Brent.
It friggin Rocks!
:^)
Snowcat
Friday February 10 18:20:06 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
moxx of balhoom wrote:

> Jeb wrote:
>
> >
> > So, what's your favorite scene with some variation
> of of "Tie her up and gag her"?
>

From Batman "Catwoman's Dressed to Kill": Batgirl scene

Catwoman (played by the great Eartha Kitt): "Angora, Gag her! Crimefighters are meant to be seen, not heard."
Caesar
Friday February 10 18:23:01 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
"Put a gag in her mouth"

Wonder Woman
Friday February 10 18:24:23 2006
Midnight alert
I posted a VCR alert for "Dead Leaves" an anime that airs tonight at midnight (i.e. on the Saturday alerts page). Has a straightjacket scene or two. Note, it's not trad anime style, more like MTV toons. Very cartoonish. But if you're into straightjackets, it's probably about the only non-hentai ever with a scene involving sex while wearing straightjackets.

Pat Powers
Friday February 10 19:06:02 2006
Re: Buffy, the Vampire Slayer
> I hate to poop on the urban legend party, but before the misconception gets *too* solidified... the duct tape was
coming at Alyson's *EYES*. It was a blindfold. Of course, the geeks should have blindfolded *&* gagged her
----
Really? I guess I didn't see a point in blindfolding someone when all of the gang is "invisible".

Of course, these geeks were later shown to be engrossed in playing video games at the arcade, rather than gloating over a captive Willow Rosenberg.
Kinky-napper
Friday February 10 19:53:08 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
Jeb wrote:

> So, what's your favorite scene with some variation of of "Tie her up and gag her"?

Wonder Woman's "Martians" episode is one of my favorites where this happens.
Anubis
http://www.anuvids.com/
Friday February 10 19:54:43 2006
Re: clear tape gags
Hadji wrote:

> Leelee Sobieski was gagged with plastic wrap in
> "Joyride", not tape. It was transparent, however.

I think it was actually non-sticky prop tape, meant to look like tape but without the stickiness to make LeeLee uncomfortable.
Anubis
Friday February 10 20:02:13 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
Debra Messing in "Prey"

Villian has his hand tightly clamped over her mouth, looks up at his female partner and says, "I think I like her better with her mouth shut." Partner smiles and then precedes to tape Debra's mouth.

MadFish
Friday February 10 20:11:59 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
An "almost, but not quite" entry in this genre: In "Iron Jawed Angels" Frances O'Connor, playing a suffragist jailed for her part in the famous World War I picketing of the White House, has her wrists shackled over her head in her jail cell as punishment for having gotten rather strident with the warden (women, you see, weren't supposed to get like that in those days). Before he leaves,the warden gruffly barks to his subordinates that they are to "put a buckle gag on her!"-or any of her jailmates-if he hears another peep out of them.

Unfortunately, he doesn't.
Fettershackle
Friday February 10 20:21:37 2006
Foreign Hassles, Comments- Opininons?
In General to all Handgaggers, before moving to other Forum:

Taking some creative liberties here,
on my opinion of that foreign guy on about after review.
No thanks to Babble-fish (fount?) ;)
Rough:
He disappointed that the girl turned out to be the villian that Bound&cleaved'd the guy in the deathtrap, instead of other way around.
However, that meant she involved in the lively handgagging of the cute gal, (or fraulein) at the start.

Rest of course,
will take over to Trades Forum, and invite any Handgag, or gal on gal handgag fans over there who'd like to watch it for laughs
Jay L
Friday February 10 20:46:11 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
Jeb wrote:

> Co-incidentally, I recently posted in Val's yahoo group
> about one of my favorite film scenes, "The
> Baby", and the fact that one of the reasons I like
> it so much is Ruth Roman's classic instruction to the bad
> girls to "tie her up and gag her."
>
> And while I'm not advocating it become a standard part of
> Database entries, that kind of instruction to the
> "henchpersons" is something that really
> enhances a scene for me, and can move a good one into the
> great category.
>
> I can think of a couple more instances of that kind of
> dialog (Die Die My Darling-- "gag and bind
> her"; the WW ep with Andrew Duggan gagging Diana P),
> but I'd be interested in hearing other folks' favorite
> versions of it. There's probably a bunch I've missed!
>
> So, what's your favorite scene with some variation of of "Tie her up and gag her"?

Kill Crazy is one of the best. Rachelle Carson is bound and gagged, the captor says those exact words "Garrison, tie her up and gag her." Truly an excellent scene if you haven't got the chance to see it. She actually gets bound and gagged twice in the movie. Once while sitting with a white cleave, and the other bound to a cot with a blue cleave.
Sic
Friday February 10 21:08:14 2006
Re: clear tape gags
Anubis wrote:

> Hadji wrote:
>
> > Leelee Sobieski was gagged with plastic wrap in
> > "Joyride", not tape. It was transparent,
> however.
>
> I think it was actually non-sticky prop tape, meant to
> look like tape but without the stickiness to make LeeLee
> uncomfortable.

Check out the DVD for Leelee's commentary where she mentions the gag was just plastic wrap but that she had to make it look real so she said she gave good "mmmphh's" to sell it. I believe she said it's because she's such a good actress. Kinda funny.

Also, unrelated, on the Moonlighting Season 3 DVD, there is a reunion of Bruce Willis, Cybill Shepard, and creator Glenn Gordon Caron. Regarding the "Atomic Shakespaere" episode, Cybill notes "I don't like being tied up on film." and we see the writers who mention she was tied up in the scene "more than she had to be".
I believe she also said to them "You're enjoying this, aren't you?" while she spent the long takes bound.

Just a little info for u guys. After all, how many among us were waiting to see Maddie Hayes bound and gagged?


William the Bloody
Friday February 10 21:20:07 2006
Re: Nancy Drew
valkyrie wrote:

I thought they were just mystery novels, as
> opposed to you guys for whom it was "sex education" he he he...



:^p
Snowcat
Friday February 10 21:58:33 2006
Re: clear tape gags
MadFish wrote:
Speaking of Crimetime After Primetime, Teri Austin and
Sandra Nelson were gagged with translucent tape in their
back-to-back scene in "Scene of the Crime".

I can't believe no one has mentioned Single White Female
unless they don't consider the tape used to gag her as
translucent. You could certainly see her lips underneath.

___________________________
Major John wrote:
Not a movie, but Dangerous Curves had
a good one with the 2 leads stuffed with
cotton balls and clear taped -
great scene.
___________________________
I liked all 3

Dangerous Curves(French Defection,The)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0103395
#1014
Michael Michele (Holly Williams)
Lise Cutter (Gina McKay)

Single White Female 1992
http://imdb.com/title/tt0105414
#271
Bridget Fonda (Allison Jones)

Scene of the Crime(Curse of the Twins)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0101191
#4073
Sandra Nelson (Audrey)
Teri Austin (Monique)
http://bindherupx.net/tgg1/teriaustin.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/tgg1/bridgetfonda.jpg
http://bindherupx.net/tgg1/michaelmichele.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net/bhuxref.htm
Friday February 10 22:05:03 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
moxx of balhoom wrote:

> Jeb wrote:
> Then there was the Six Million Dollar Man episode where
> Lee Majors says to Britt Ekland (playing one of the
> criminal gang holding him captive
> "I thought we could spend these last few minutes
> alone"
> "What do you mean last few minutes"
> "These last few minutes while i tie you up"
> Cut to Ekland cleve gagged and tied to chair.

I think they had just slept together. She wasn't wearing too much either.

Another good one was on One Wakiki West when Cheryl Ladd is about to be tied up in the hold of a ship. "Bind her!" (the bad gal).

I think catwoman actually says 'crimefightRESSES should be seen and not heard'.

Didn't Quentin Tarantino order 'tie her up! tight!' on Alias (a disappointing scene).
ss
Friday February 10 22:11:17 2006
Re: Nancy Drew
Snowcat wrote:

> valkyrie wrote:
>
> I thought they were just mystery novels, as
> > opposed to you guys for whom it was "sex
> education" he he he...

The authors of the Nancy Drew novels, both the originals and the rewrites, would be moritified with horror to learn that there are people like us who derive a sexual thrill from the intrepid girl sleuth being bound and gagged. They both were socially conservative and sexually puritanical. If Nancy Drew was bound and gagged in the course of solving a mystery, then it was out of necessity, not to sexually arouse a reader. As our esteemed colleague Van has pointed out, it's about the plot, not the bondage. The bondage is ancillary to the plot, not vice versa, and this was a verity in the Nancy Drew series.
The original stories were written by Mildred Augustine Wirt(later Benson), a ghostwriter working out of Ohio. They were rewritten during the 1960s by Harriet Stratemeyer Adams, the head of the syndicate that published the books, because readers were complaining about derogatory racial stereotyping. In the course of rewriting, much detail was excised from the text, including vivid descriptions of bondage. I read the sections of two editions of "The Clue of the Tapping Heels" in which Nancy Drew is bound and gagged. The description of her being overpowered and bound and gagged by the villain is far more vivid and richly detailed in the original edition than it is in the rewrite. The illustration of Nancy Drew bound and gagged in the original edition is better as well.

Hadji
Friday February 10 22:12:49 2006
Firewall - guarantee
Check the next to last paragraph of this review.
Patrick
pat512@yahoo.com
http://www.triangle.com/movies/story/2892768p-9347547c.html
Friday February 10 22:27:59 2006
Re: "Tie her up and gag her"
Sic wrote:

>
My Uncle the Alien had two good ones. When they first grab the blonde off the street and drag her to the back of the van, the one abductor tells the other "gag her. tie her up. I'll drive." A bit later as they're driving along and the one guy is in the back wrestling with the girl while trying to restrain her, the driver yells at him "tie her up! gag her!"
uncle
Friday February 10 23:32:58 2006
ORIENTAL SCENES
Thanks to the Major for his id of my scene.
hallbird
Friday February 10 23:42:40 2006
Re: SMALLVILLE
Hadji wrote:

> GAGLIANNO wrote:
>
> > This episode had to be the ultimate tease of all
> time.
> > About 40 minutes in the bad guy chloroforms soem
> cutie.
> > When another girl comes to the door she knows
> something
> > is not right and searches the basement. The first
> girl is
> > there tied to a chair with a bandanna/scarf, etc.
> around
> > her neck, impying that she was gagged or
> blindfolded. The
> > bad guy sees the girl about to free the other and
> grabs
> > her and ties her up as well. Now the first girl
> starts to
> > give him lip, so I say good, he'll shut her up by
> putting
> > the gag around her neck into her mouth. Nope he just
>
> > let's her yack away. Just goes to show that a bunch
> of
> > putzes write these shows or maybe they were gonna
> gag
> > this actress and she made a stink and screamed
> bloody
> > murder about it, only thing I can figure.
>
> This episode was an infuriating disappointment. I
> curtailed my workout in order to get home in time to
> watch it, and I am enriled that I left the gym early for
> no good purpose.
> There were countless lapses in logic in the later
> segments of the plot. Erica Durance was tied to a chair
> in the basement and had a white cloth around her neck,
> obviously a gag; why wasn't it in her mouth? Wouldn't it
> be logical for the serial killer to keep her gagged as
> much as possible, especially when there was someone at
> the door? Furthermore, Ms. Durance could've alerted
> Allison Mack to her presence in the basement with a
> series of "mmph" sounds through her gag.
> I concur with Gaglianno, the serial killer could easily
> have gagged the two girls when they began taunting him
> and making admonitory comments. He never did. The minds of the clods who write this show are unfathomable.



Right you are dude. They must have the witers from "Laura Mars". Reminds me of another frustrating scene. In that dunb disney show "The Famous Jett Jackson", there was an episode where the lead character and a blonde princess were tied up back to back. The princess was dressed nicely in a velvet gown, heels, hose, etc. She was giving her captors a lot of lip so one of them said 'put a gag on her', but she tehn relpied something like, "I'm a princess, everyone knows you CAN'T GAG A PRINCESS". And of course the putz buys it and leaves her be. Infuriating!!If that were me I would have gagged her with the tightest cleve I could find.
gagliano

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