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Saturday March 18 00:27:51 2006
Re: DID's in books
Eric wrote:
> could anyone recomend any adult novels which contain DID
> scenes?

Well … that just happens to be my area of expertise.

“Critical Space,” by Greg Rucka
A bodyguard, guarding a Lady. She gets abducted. Bondage, ballgag. (Brief.)
Good thriller. The bodyguard stuff is cool.

“Jake and Mimi,” by Frank Baldwin
So-so thriller. Wall to wall consensual bondage play, D/s. Abduction and non-con at the end. The sex scenes are hot.

“The Fan Club,” by Irving Wallace
Nasty and sort of boring, about a bunch of assholes who kidnap a movie star. Knock out, extended bondage. (Rape.)

“Mercy,” by David Lindsay
Good thriller about a female cop investigating a series of murders in a group of lesbian bondage enthusiasts.

“Down in the Zero,” and “Hard Candy,” by Andrew Vachss
Vachss is lawyer and anti-child porn activist, but he writes all these novels with M/f D/s themes. These two have bondage sex scenes.

“Dance for the Dead,” by Thomas Perry
One of a series of books about an American Indian woman who helps people who need to disappear. In this book, the woman she’s helping gets captured by the badguys. Handcuffed to a shower. (Rape.)

I can list more, if you’re interested.



Sylvie
Saturday March 18 00:53:40 2006
V for Vendetta
Just added entry to database. Natalie Portman chained hands over head, and another throwaway scene on a TV of a detective show. both split second scenes.

On the plus side, this is a great, great movie!
hope everyone had a safe & happy St. Patrick's Day.
-val
valkyrie
http://valthesub.net
Saturday March 18 01:44:35 2006
Re: Bones
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Saturday March 18 01:53:55 2006
Late Alert for "Open House"
Figured I'd post this here as well since time is short. Just noticed that the film "Open House" is airing in just a few hours from now at 4:00am Central (early Saturday) on The Movie Channel (TMC). Nice gag scene for Christina Gallegos and a gagless tie up for Adrienne Barbeau. Haven't seen this one turn up on cable in years.
CM
Saturday March 18 08:30:58 2006
Most tied up toon star
For obvious reasons I have quite a soft spot for Penelope "Haylp! Haylp!" Pitstop. In my Snidely Claw persona that soft spot would be a nice deep pool of Quicksand obviously. But most other times I look back on her as one of those triggers that made me post on forums such as this one. Surely she must be the most tied up toon of all time. Or am I missing someone. Can there really be another?
Snidely Claw
Saturday March 18 08:46:58 2006
Re: 30 Minutes till showtime
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> On "Bones," I don't think we ever saw her feet
> tied to the chair, like in the photo, did we?

No, we didn't. I was disappointed with this scene.
Another Dave
Saturday March 18 08:56:12 2006
Re: Most tied up toon star


I'd have thought Peny from Inspector Gadget would have quite a high count.
Red Ken
Saturday March 18 09:05:41 2006
Re: Have any of these actresses been gagged/handgagged?


> In wich movie or serie?
> Catherine Zeta Jhones, Mia Sarah, Angelina Jolie, Mia
> Kirshner,Kim Delaney, Lisa Howard, Connie Nielsen,
> Emmanuelle Seigner,Susie Amy. Thanks

Connie Nielsen was gagged in okavango i believe. I think i've seen caps of it somewhere (unfortunately i can't remember where). As for the others you're probably better off checking the Database.
Saturday March 18 09:28:49 2006
Re: 30 Minutes till showtime
Van wrote:


> About the ankle ropes, but for the fact that she never
> stands up, we'd never know from what's shown on the
> screen that her ankles are tied to the chair. In point
> of fact, much of the extended sequence, especially the
> fight, is edited into a jumble of images & we're
> never shown *anything* with great clarity. That said, it
> all works! We know exactly what happened, that her hands
> were tied during the fight, etc., etc. These people know
> their craft, which is the telling of a story on the small
> screen.

I disagree with you, it doesn't work. You have to show that her feet are tied for it to work. That is why the director had her feet tied. He didn't tie her feet for a publicity photo. He did it because it fits the story. She showed in the episode that she was a tough woman. She fought hard with her hands tied behind her back. Now all of a sudden she is sitting in a chair and not fighting back. How come? Why doesn't she stand up and kick this guy. We know she can and will defend herself. We just saw it. Especially when he is walking towards her in the last scene. She would have stood up and kicked him. It doesn't work because it doesn't make sense when you think about it. You have to show that her feet are tied to the chair to keep the continuity.
Another Dave
Saturday March 18 10:02:12 2006
Re: 30 Minutes till showtime
Another Dave wrote:

> Van wrote:
>
>
> > About the ankle ropes, but for the fact that she never
> > stands up, we'd never know from what's shown on the
> > screen that her ankles are tied to the chair. In point
> > of fact, much of the extended sequence, especially the
> > fight, is edited into a jumble of images & we're
> > never shown *anything* with great clarity. That said, it
> > all works! We know exactly what happened, that her hands
> > were tied during the fight, etc., etc. These people know
> > their craft, which is the telling of a story on the small
> > screen.
>
> I disagree with you, it doesn't work. You have to show
> that her feet are tied for it to work. That is why the
> director had her feet tied. He didn't tie her feet for a
> publicity photo. He did it because it fits the story. She
> showed in the episode that she was a tough woman. She
> fought hard with her hands tied behind her back. Now all
> of a sudden she is sitting in a chair and not fighting
> back. How come? Why doesn't she stand up and kick this
> guy. We know she can and will defend herself. We just saw
> it. Especially when he is walking towards her in the last
> scene. She would have stood up and kicked him. It doesn't
> work because it doesn't make sense when you think about
> it. You have to show that her feet are tied to the chair to keep the continuity.

Fer cryin' outloud... I'm not suggesting the rope wrangler tied Emily's feet so the still photographer could get a shot. They block & reherse, they light, they shoot, they edit. It's a creative PROCESS. In the best of all worlds, it would have been nice if they started the gagging scene with a slow pan from her feet to her tied hands---but they didn't. That doesn't make the final result "bad".

I don't think they showed her getting a good night's sleep the night before *or* eating breakfast, so I suppose we're lucky she's awake.
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Saturday March 18 10:12:36 2006
Re: Most tied up toon star
Red Ken wrote:

>
>
> I'd have thought Peny from Inspector Gadget would have
> quite a high count.


Daphne from "Scooby Doo", and April O'Neil from "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" both have had multiple scenes if memory serves correct (Which it may not after the over-consumtion of a mysterious, dark, Irish beer yesterday).
tripper
Saturday March 18 12:22:18 2006
Re: Most tied up toon star
Hmmm I think Penelope Pitstop is the most tied one =)
Lobo
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Saturday March 18 12:34:00 2006
Re: Mutatis mutandis
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Saturday March 18 12:47:43 2006
New Clip - Bones and Frauenknast
New clips in PantyDiDCap site.
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Saturday March 18 14:40:46 2006
Re: All wrapped up
Mad Dan wrote:


> Unfortunately "Virgin of the Secret Service"
> was an exception. As mentioned in the IMDb, it was made
> on video tape. Film copies may have been made for sale
> abroad, but the series was not well received, and it is
> unlikely that anything survives of it. Still, you never know!

The imdb says that this was color. At that time there was no way to record to tape in color in the UK so it must have been to film.
bruce
Saturday March 18 15:41:02 2006
Re: T.. Hooker - Complete series released in a 4-box DVD
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> They just finished a cable run on A&E late last
> season. They ran through the series about 3 or 4 times.
> The show is not listed on the A&E web site anymore.
> It was clearly bought as filler programming since they
> aired it at 4 a.m. Plus, the episodes were not improved
> quality wise. Still, the upgrades from the original
> episodes/and or syndication from the 1980s was welcome.
>
> Unless Heather Locklear appears in the DVDs as she is
> today and recreates every B&G scene, I wouldn't pay a dime for any of the DVDs.

I know this. I have a hard time fathoming how anyone would pay $400 for a set of DVDs which have been around on cable! I mean if it was that important they should have taped them themselves!! Plus can you imagine watching hours of Willian Shatner and Adrian Zhamed (whatever his name is) just to catch a moment of scenes that are available here and on other bondage sites. Good god what are they thinking about?
Mark O
Saturday March 18 15:49:27 2006
Re: T.. Hooker - Complete series released in a 4-box DVD
Mark O wrote:

> I know this. I have a hard time fathoming how anyone
> would pay $400 for a set of DVDs which have been around
> on cable!

I suspect that these aren't legit releases, but bootlegs instead. The series is being released on legit DVD for a lot less money.
Todd 3-D
todd3d@yahoo.com
http://cliffhangerproductions.8m.com
Saturday March 18 16:08:39 2006
Re: Most tied up toon star
tripper wrote:

> Red Ken wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I'd have thought Peny from Inspector Gadget would
> have
> > quite a high count.
>
>
> Daphne from "Scooby Doo", and April O'Neil from
> "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" both have had
> multiple scenes if memory serves correct (Which it may
> not after the over-consumtion of a mysterious, dark,
> Irish beer yesterday).

I would think with all the various animated Superman cartoons (going all the way back the classic Max Fleischer ones) that Lois Lane would have the most. There were at least three I know of in the Fleischer series, at least three in the 60's animated version, and at least two in the more recent 90s series.
MadFish
Saturday March 18 18:08:39 2006
Charmed scene
I seem to remember hearing that there was a Charmed scene a few weeks ago involving a blond girl other than the charmed ones or Kaley...

the episode title from that days discussion (Feb 26) was Charmed: "Engaged and Confused"

I missed it and no one put it into the DB

so did anyone see it and did anything happen?
Snowcat
Saturday March 18 18:28:30 2006
24 The Computer Game
I know there was a lot of speculation about this before but i can't recall anyone confirming it had a storyline of interest to us. Well the good news is it does, caught an ad on ITV1 over here in Blighty tonight.

Opening shot was 'Kim Bauer' roped to a chair and cleve gagged, mmmppphhing and strugling, then it cut to Jack interegating a terrorist "Where's my daughter?"

Apparantly Elisha Cuthbert recorded the voice for this game, doesn't look like she had much dialogue to learn
moxx of balhoom
Saturday March 18 19:33:46 2006
Re: Most tied up toon star
My favorite "most tied up toon stars":

Lois Lane ( the Fleischer series )

April O'Neal

There's also this French cartoon called "Clementine". The title character's abducted, bound & gagged in almost every episode.

Traveller
Saturday March 18 19:38:19 2006
Re: 30 Minutes till showtime
Van wrote:

> I don't think they showed her getting a good night's
> sleep the night before *or* eating breakfast, so I suppose we're lucky she's awake.

I don't know what she ate for breakfast, but she had cloth for dinner.
Another Dave
Saturday March 18 19:56:13 2006
santa barbara
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Saturday March 18 21:03:56 2006
Re: DID's in books
Sylvie wrote:

> I can list more, if you’re interested.


Sylvie, I'd really appreciate it if you can post some more references to novels with bondage in them. Thanks in advance.


Btw, does anyone know what happened to Dr. Irony's site? It had a huge list of bondage in literature.


"The Hellfire Club" by Peter Straub
The story's protagonist is kidnapped by a serial killer ( he doesn't kill her but keeps her as his captive. some other conspiracy which would ruin the book, if I'd tell you now ) She's bound and gagged with duct tape.

"Repetition" by Alain Robbe- Grillet
A girl is abducted in a trunk. She's tied spreadeagled in a warehouse where she's examined and interrogated.

Traveller
Saturday March 18 21:36:22 2006
Re: V for Vendetta
valkyrie wrote:

> Just added entry to database. Natalie Portman chained
> hands over head, and another throwaway scene on a TV of a
> detective show. both split second scenes.

The chains were ok, but, if I recall correctly, it was a rather quick view from behind. Besides, they missed a great opportunity for a handgag at the very beginning of the movie. Natalie Portman handgagged would have been worth it from the DiD vantage had it happened.

> On the plus side, this is a great, great movie!

From a movie-watching point-of-view, yes, it was well worth it. Highly recommended.

Ice Cream Mna
Saturday March 18 22:43:48 2006
Re: Most tied up toon star
What about the leading ladies of TOTALLY SPIES? I seem to remember them getting tied up at least three dozen times.

Robert Knaus
knauswalpole@aol.com
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Saturday March 18 22:45:30 2006
Re: DID's in books
Traveller wrote:

> Sylvie wrote:
>
> > I can list more, if you’re interested.
>
>
> Sylvie, I'd really appreciate it if you can post some
> more references to novels with bondage in them. Thanks in
> advance.

Sallie Bissell's first two novels both contain excellent bondage scenes. In the first one, entitled "In the Forest of Harm", TWO damsels are bound and gagged TWO TIMES EACH! Each is intitially bound and gagged individually, and together the second time. The first time each is bound with rope and cleave-gagged, and the second time they are both bound and gagged with duct tape.
In the second one, entitled "A Darker Justice", the protagonist, a prosecutor of Native American descent, is kidnapped by white supremacists and bound and gagged with duct tape.
Hadji
Saturday March 18 22:49:33 2006
Re: Most tied up toon star
Robert Knaus wrote:

> What about the leading ladies of TOTALLY SPIES? I seem to
> remember them getting tied up at least three dozen
> times.

Unfortunately, they are not gagged a sufficient number of times, despite being tied up in nearly every episode. The brunette member of the trio, Alex, has been bound and gagged three times, by my count, the most of the threesome. The blonde, Clover, has been bound and gagged twice, one alongside Alex. The brainy redhead, Sam, has not been gagged yet, despite there being numerous opportunities to gag her in multiple episodes.
Does anyone know whether a new season of episodes is currently in production?
Hadji
Saturday March 18 22:54:42 2006
Re: DID's in books
Hadji wrote:

> Traveller wrote:
>
> > Sylvie wrote:
> >
> > > I can list more, if you’re interested.
> >
> >
> > Sylvie, I'd really appreciate it if you can post
> some
> > more references to novels with bondage in them.
> Thanks in
> > advance.

Two novels of the prolific Ed McBain come to mind, both of them from his famous 87th Precinct series. The first one is entitled "So Long As You Both Shall Live"; its plot concerns an obsessed stalker who kidnaps the newlywed bride of a policeman on her wedding night. She is bound and gagged on a mattress in an unfurnished room. Her wrists and ankles are bound with rope and she is gagged with white surgical tape. The villain keeps her bound and gagged for some time.
The second one is one of his more recent movels, "The Frumious Bandersnatch". In this novel, an up-and-coming pop diva is kidnapped and bound and gagged. She is very securely bound with rope, and gagged with a black cleave-gag knotted tightly between her teeth.
Hadji
Saturday March 18 22:56:29 2006
Monk season finale
I see that noone has commented on the major putz-fest that occurred on the season finale of Monk last night. Has there ever been a scene where an entire sequestered jury has been B&G before? Had there been at least a couple of decent looking women (especially like the one doing the taping) on this jury, this would have been salvageable. But there wasn't much to write home about on the female front. You gotta admit though, it was pretty funny seeing Monk try to straighten the venetian blinds with the knife instead of trying to untie himself. If only ...
Steven
Saturday March 18 22:58:34 2006
Re: DID's in books
Hadji wrote:

> ...its plot concerns an obsessed stalker who
> kidnaps the newlywed bride of a policeman on her wedding
> night. ... Her wrists and ankles are bound with
> rope and she is gagged with white surgical tape.

Sounds like this may have been the basis for the Colombo episode featuring Joanna Going.
LV
Saturday March 18 23:04:25 2006
Re: DID's in books
Hadji wrote:

> > > Sylvie wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can list more, if you’re interested.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sylvie, I'd really appreciate it if you can
> post
> > some
> > > more references to novels with bondage in them.
>
> > Thanks in
> > > advance.

Four novels by Robert B. Parker, another prolific mystery writer come to mind. The first one is the inaugural novel in the Spenser series, entitled "The Godwulf Manuscript". Its plot concerns the redoubtable detective attempting to rescue a deluded rich girl from the clutches of a religious cult in whose thrall she is under. He rescues her from a sacrificial type religious ceremony, in which she is a bound and gagged and unwilling participant. She is tied with rope, and gagged with a paper towel in her mouth held in place by tape.
The next novel is from the Spenser series, entitled "Walking Shadow". An emotionally needy woman with mental problems who craves attention fakes her kidnapping, and sends the intrepid sleuth a video of herself bound and gagged. She is tied to a chair and gagged with a cloth over her mouth.
The third novel is also from the Spenser series, entitled "Thin Air". Its plot concerns the wife of a cop friend of Spenser who is kidnapped by a Latino gangster. She is bound and gagged twice, the first time with scarves, and the second time with duct tape. She spends a lot of time bound and gagged.
The fourth novel is from Parker's newer Jesse Stone series, "Trouble in Paradise". An attractive female friend of the protagonist is kidnapped by the villains and bound and gagged on a bed. She is bound with rope and gagged with a single strip of duct tape.
Hadji
Saturday March 18 23:06:13 2006
Re: DID's in books
LV wrote:
> > ...its plot concerns an obsessed stalker who
> > kidnaps the newlywed bride of a policeman on her
> wedding
> > night.
> Sounds like this may have been the basis for the Colombo
> episode featuring Joanna Going.

It was indeed the basis for this movie. I recognized the plot immediately.
Hadji

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