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| Friday April 28 00:54:24 2006 Re: soaps |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> anything happening on General Hospital last fwe days, or > was that one scene with the older lady gagged on Tuesday > it? She spent most of Wednesday tied to the chair (no gag was ever seen) with Robert Scorpio...typical banter back & forth as they tried to get loose. Near the end she frees herself & is helping him get free from his handcuffs so I imagine the bondage for her is probably over. |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Friday April 28 01:12:47 2006 Re: CSI-NY 2 |
| LV wrote:
> Only thing is, in a procedural type police show, the > opportunities for the female cops to get the treatment > are limited. I was thinking the same thing. I think this is the first female cop in any of the CSIs to be tied up by a bad guy. I know Jorja Fox had a recreation hand-taping. As much as I was disappointed with no gag for Melina, give me Emily Proctor in the same scene and I'd be happy. |
| Friday April 28 05:11:26 2006 Re: CSI-NY 2 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> LV wrote: > > > > Only thing is, in a procedural type police show, the > > > opportunities for the female cops to get the > treatment > > are limited. > > I was thinking the same thing. I think this is the first > female cop in any of the CSIs to be tied up by a bad guy. > I know Jorja Fox had a recreation hand-taping. As much as > I was disappointed with no gag for Melina, give me Emily > Proctor in the same scene and I'd be happy. You're correct in your observation that in the forensic invesitgation shows, the investigators are rarely, if ever, imperiled. The damsels on these shows who are bound and gagged by the villain are the guest actresses, most of whom are good-looking. These shows are more cerebral than the typical crime drama, and rely on plot twists, rather than imperiled cast members, for suspense. Are the CSIs technically police officers? |
| Hadji |
| Friday April 28 07:44:46 2006 Re: CSI-NY 2 |
| Hadji wrote:
> You're correct in your observation that in the forensic > invesitgation shows, the investigators are rarely, if > ever, imperiled. The damsels on these shows who are bound > and gagged by the villain are the guest actresses, most > of whom are good-looking. These shows are more cerebral > than the typical crime drama, and rely on plot twists, > rather than imperiled cast members, for suspense. > Are the CSIs technically police officers? As these are procedural shows, there is virtually no likelihood that these characters would indeed rush into any type of perilous situation; these are about teamwork and backing one another up. There are no maverick cops like in older days on TV. The only way is the rare show like Wednesday night, where the cop becomes a victim. And this is very rare because these characters are about empowerment and not vitimization. Look how quickly Melina was able to cut herself free and turn her attacker into the "victim". I'd say our best chance would be if some imaginative writer got the idea of a plot with a CSI national convention, and roommates Jorja Fox, Emily Procter, Melina Kanakarides and Anna Belknap found themselves recreating Terror Among Us. We can dream. Hadji, as far as your question about the CSI personnel. As far as I know, they are police officers. They wouldn't be be the ones doing the actual hunting for and arresting of suspects nor the interrogations. I remember the original CSI taking a lot of criticism for protraying these inaccuracies. I believe this led to the creators splitting up that team to have some of them in the role of a more regular type of detective. This was the first time I watched the NY series. My impression is that Sinise's character is a detective assigned to the CSI unit. |
| LV |
| Friday April 28 07:48:33 2006 Re: CSI-NY 2 |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> ...I was disappointed with no gag for Melina, give me > Emily Proctor in the same scene and I'd be happy. I don't know about that. I think we would have seen even more frustration on this board about the missed gag opportunities. She's definitely near the top of my full treatment wish list. (Did anyone mention her in that recent thread?) |
| LV |
| Friday April 28 09:38:18 2006 John Doe Episode |
| John Doe episode "Psychic Connections" will air tonight at 7pm on Sci Fi channel. I noticed this after viewing a clip I downloaded from Anubis (if memory serves me). It shows a woman bound to a post in a "slaughterhouse". I forget at the moment on how she was bound. This is not in the database.
Here is an excerpt of a scene review I found "the killer has picked out the phychic,and has decided to finish what he started 5 years ago. He kidnaps phychic and takes her to his slaughterhouse to be "re-processed." John fortunately arrives with the police, and in a frantic struggle between John and the butcher, phychic kills the butcher with his own cattle nail gun". |
| civil |
| Friday April 28 10:31:11 2006 Re: CSI-NY 2 |
| LV wrote:
> Hadji wrote: > in the forensic > invesitgation shows, the investigators are rarely, > if ever, imperiled. > > this is very rare because > these characters are about empowerment and not That rare huh? Admit when India's CID Special Bureau, ep: "The Bride Who Wore Black" Part 4 didn't have an actual gag. Figured make a handgag/bound clip for guys like Kevin W during the 2nd round But seeing these CSI gals are rare, figure get off my arse and get it up for passaround tonight then. Talk more over on Trades => |
| Jay L |
| Friday April 28 12:04:28 2006 Greatest Handgag Scene Ever |
| I finally saw the film noir classic No Way Out, which, for my money, contains the best handgag scene I've ever watched (displacing Tamlyn Tomita's classic from The Karate Kid Part II). The only drawback to this scene is that it's not as long as Talia Paul's handgag in Anguish. Then again, there probably aren't any handgags that last as long as Ms. Paul's, right? Anyway, this scene truly does have it all: exquisite beauty Ms. Darnell, good lighting, the bad guy commanding his henchman to shut her up ("put your hand over her mouth so she can't yell" or something close to it), realistic and firmly applied handgag, plenty of physical resistance and frightened facial expressions, a fair amount of muffled cries, and textbook taunting by the villain (excellently played by Richard Widmark). And for those of you who like a little extra, Ms. Darnell manages to wipe some water out of her eye while being restrained after the bad guy empties his glass on her. This scene is a must-see even for those who aren't as interested in handgags as they are in ropes and other gags. |
| Ice Cream Man |
| Friday April 28 12:16:28 2006 Re: Intresting Info about New Elisha Cuthbert Movie |
| > If you go to IMDB.com and search under Captivity, a ton
> of people have posted that saw a screening. But none > answer our questions exactly about gags, etc. Read the Rotten Tomatoes Forums or CA Forums. |
| Logos |
| ehgualco@hotmail.com |
| Friday April 28 12:26:28 2006 Re: Intresting Info about New Elisha Cuthbert Movie |
| Accorsi wrote:
> Any has made Direct Question about Gag in a movie Forum? > I want to ask, but i think i probably be banned. No, you don t be banned |
| Logos |
| ehgualco@hotmail.com |
| Friday April 28 12:37:57 2006 Re: Greatest Handgag Scene Ever |
| Ice Cream Man wrote:
> there probably aren't any handgags that last > as long as Ms. Paul's, right? The Russian TV show on trades page is loooong. Shame he couldn't get that tape on her though |
| Darius Kasparaitis |
| Friday April 28 12:51:19 2006 Re: Intresting Info about New Elisha Cuthbert Movie |
| The film is set in Manhattan and will feature Cuthbert as a fashion model who, along with a chauffeur, gets kidnapped and held in a small room by a serial killer. While the psycho methodically terrorizes them, the victims draw strength from each other and fall in love.
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| Friday April 28 12:52:14 2006 Re: CSI-NY 2 |
| LV wrote:
> Hadji, as far as your question about the CSI personnel. > As far as I know, they are police officers. Emily Proctor in a recent episode detailed her "night vision" problems when she was a police officer. |
| Friday April 28 12:54:52 2006 Re: soaps |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> She spent most of Wednesday tied to the chair (no gag was > ever seen) with Robert Scorpio...typical banter back > & forth as they tried to get loose. That is amazing, since they showed her (and him) getting gagged in the final minutes on Tuesday. Not that I care since it's Tracy, but, wow, if that had been one of the GH hotties... |
| Friday April 28 13:50:19 2006 "Marathon Angels" coming to DVD |
| Hi all - I didn't see this news mentioned, so I just wanted to be sure it was noted. The third season of "Charlie's Angels" is scheduled to come out on DVD on July 4 according to tvshowsondvd.com. It should include the "Marathon Angels" episode. This is a personal fave as it is the first DiD scene I ever was able to record on my VCR. That original tape is gone, but the memory lingers. :) If the link below doesn't work, just go to the homepage and click on the "more news" link above the recent posts.
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| PRW |
| http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5537 |
| Friday April 28 14:03:48 2006 Good one |
| One of the tightest cleaves I've seen on Jay L's today. |
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| Friday April 28 14:47:55 2006 Re: Greatest Handgag Scene Ever |
| Darius Kasparaitis wrote:
> The Russian TV show on trades page is loooong. Dug up that clip, say lasted roughly over a minute |
| Jay L |
| Friday April 28 14:50:49 2006 Re: Good one |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> One of the tightest cleaves I've seen on Jay L's today. Credit where due the Major & Bindher put that up for you guys |
| Jay L |
| Friday April 28 15:02:43 2006 Re: Intresting Info about New Elisha Cuthbert Movie |
| > kidnapped and held in a small room by a serial killer.
> While the psycho methodically terrorizes them, the > victims draw strength from each other and fall in love. Has you see it? |
| Accorsi |
| idc05@hotmail.com |
| Friday April 28 16:30:13 2006 Re: Greatest Handgag Scene Ever |
| Jay L wrote:
> Darius Kasparaitis wrote: > > > The Russian TV show on trades page is loooong. > > Dug up that clip, > say lasted roughly over a minute Where can I find this Russian clip? I've scanned the Trades page and can't seem to find it. I need more info, I guess (what's the subject of the post and how old is it?) I would love to see it and compare the two scenes. Thanks in advance! |
| Ice Cream Man |
| Friday April 28 16:53:45 2006 Attn: Ice Cream Man - Re: Greatest Handgag Scene Ever |
| Ice Cream Man
I just posted for you Re: the Russian HG Clip on the Trades Page Talk to you over there ==> |
| Jay L |
| http://brianspage.com/showday.php?fname=trade%2Fhtml%2F117-2006 |
| Friday April 28 18:15:24 2006 Re: Ladies playing Mermaids |
| Mr. Moderator - all your points on this subject are well taken - logical and sensical. Of course, it's also your forum and what you say goes no matter.
However, I'll add this one point and be done with my opinion. My point was this: In this case, the legs are bound and not the wrists. Your response was: The legs are not. They are a fish tail. Me, now: Because mermaids don't really exist (sorry all the cryptozoologists out there), unlike, say, bank robbers, that means every actress in every filmed or video'd entertainment portraying a mermaid is therefore bound. And from what I hear, they are quite uncomfortable in their costume. They can't walk or perambulate in any way - they often have to be carried. Therefore, I understand and support how discussion of actual, real criminal and evil behavior are not welcome on this forum - although the fictional portrayal of such is - but I don't understand how the discussion of such innocent fantasy as mermaidiana (have I coined a word?) as portrayed by sexy women in skin-tight mermaid costumes aren't allowed: not because they are sexy (this site doesn't deal in simply sexy women, but bound sexy women, of course), but because their legs are tightly sheathed together within the costume, making them at least partially helpless. Okay, I've had my say. And BTW, don't worry, I won't be starting a mermaid site any time soon. |
| Clarifier |
| Friday April 28 18:25:11 2006 Re: Ladies playing Mermaids |
| Clarifier wrote:
> My point was this: > > In this case, the legs are bound > and not the wrists. > > Your response was: > > The legs are not. They are a fish tail. > > Me, now: > > Because mermaids don't really exist (sorry all the > cryptozoologists out there), unlike, say, bank robbers, > that means every actress in every filmed or video'd > entertainment portraying a mermaid is therefore bound. > And from what I hear, they are quite uncomfortable in > their costume. They can't walk or perambulate in any way > - they often have to be carried. That, to me, is no more a form of bondage than is the inability to use ones arms or legs i.e. a para- or quadraplegic. I suppose a mermaid costume could be construed as a form of partial mummification, but it is not the intention. The intention is to make her look like a mermaid. Is she bound? In a sense, yes. Is it bondage? Nah. Like Brian R. said..it's a fish tail. |
| Mark O |
| Friday April 28 18:59:26 2006 Mermaids-in-Distress |
| Okay, I'm bored, here's my opinion.
There's no need to make this complicated. The DiD factor is what's important. The mere existance of a maid in a mermaid costume may be of interest to... somebody, but a mermaid in a net struggling to get back to the ocean...now *THAT*s on topic!! :-) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Friday April 28 19:13:40 2006 May 2006 Spin on The Notorious Bettie Page |
| The May 2006 issue of "Spin" magazine contains a small photo inset of Gretchen Mol as Bettie Page on its cover (with the teaser words that caught my eye along the lines of "Whips!" "Chains!") and an even more interesting 1/3-page black-and-white photo from the movie:
Gretchen cleave-gagging a lingerie-clad model restrained in a fetishy metal collar linked by chain to her wrists cuffed in front. Unfortunately, Gretchen is much more attractive than her gaggee -- but ya gotta give some reason for people to shell out for the movie ticket to see more... |
| Kinky-napper |
| Friday April 28 19:48:26 2006 Re: John Doe Episode |
| > Here is an excerpt of a scene review I found "the
> killer has picked out the phychic,and has decided to > finish what he started 5 years ago. He kidnaps phychic > and takes her to his slaughterhouse to be > "re-processed." She is scene getting pulled out of a cage, with her hands bound in front. She is then taken out and has her hands bound to a ladder. As the killer goes to tie her feet, she gets her hands free and stabs him. After a brief chase, she is got again. This time she is hoisted upside down by her feet with her hands bound down dangling to the floor. The good guys show up, and you see her lowered to the floor. My bad on the previous assumption that she was bound to a post. |
| civil |
| Friday April 28 19:54:25 2006 Re: John Doe Episode |
| > She is scene getting pulled out of a cage, with her hands
> bound in front. "Psychic Connections" This scene occurs after the last commercial, which is basically in the last 10 min. And by the way, pardon my spelling of "scene" and not "seen". |
| Friday April 28 20:12:37 2006 Since The Word hath been spoken- |
| -with regards to the topicality of actresses playing mermaids (by the way, Boss, good call on your part, in keeping with the consensus that neither Wende Wagner's long-ago stuck-on-a-conveyor-belt "Green Hornet" scene nor Hilary Swank's "Million Dollar Baby" sequences merited inclusion in the database), I won't test our host's patience by belaboring the point. I will, however, simply point out for the benefit of the poster who brought it up that there just happens to be a bona fide mermaid bondage scene in the database. Try throwing a search on the name Rya Kihlstedt and see what comes up.
Oh, and as far as the best handgag scene is concerned, I thought everyone here knew that there are really only two kinds of handgag scenes-Lori Martin's pas de deux with Robert Mitchum in the original "Cape Fear," and everything else. |
| Fettershackle |
| Friday April 28 20:26:02 2006 Re: Ladies playing Mermaids |
| Clarifier wrote:
> because their legs are tightly sheathed > together within the costume, making them at least > partially helpless. As I said, intention matters. They are no more bound than, let's say, a woman who is eating and has a large bite of food in her mouth can be said to be gagged. The effect may be similar, but the intent is not there. No restraint -> no bondage -> off-topic. |
| The Moderator |
| Friday April 28 22:04:21 2006 Re: John Doe Episode |
| civil wrote:
> John Doe episode "Psychic Connections" will air > tonight at 7pm on Sci Fi channel...It shows a woman bound to a post in a "slaughterhouse".... Many thanks for the heads-up. A very nice scene, IMHO, and a splendid DiD...FYI, 'epguides' informs that her name is Sonja Bennett. |
| Overlooker |
| Friday April 28 22:14:40 2006 Re: Since The Word hath been spoken- |
| Fettershackle wrote:
> -with regards to the topicality of actresses playing > mermaids...As far as the best handgag scene is concerned, I > thought everyone here knew that there are really only two > kinds of handgag scenes-Lori Martin's pas de deux with > Robert Mitchum in the original "Cape Fear," and everything else. ...Mermaids don't do it for me, whether tied up or simply au natural...But tho I'm not the ultimate fan and/or authority on the handgag, Lee Remick being muffled by Ross Martin in "Experiment in Terror" is the hands down winner....err, as it were...What a dame!! |
| Overlooker |
| Friday April 28 22:22:41 2006 Paula Peril |
| The new comic book, Paula Peril, shows some awesome potential. I bought the first issue in a comic book store and the title girl gets the treatment at the end. Check out this Web site and do some exploring. This comic book was made for people like us!
http://www.atlantisstudios.net/paulaperil/ |
| somerset |
| gagsngirls@hotmail.com |
| Friday April 28 22:59:30 2006 mermaids |
| If you're looking for a mermaid in bondage, the very last page of TORQUERE (Torture) by Sorayama Hajime, is a full-color, full-page picture. The mermaid has some cuts and blood, and doesn't look like she had an easy time with her capture.
Sorayama is an artist, known for female androids called "gynoids", a blend of woman and machine parts. Many of these feature women in extremes of contortion & position. A few of his sketches start with the "bare bones" base model (all woman, no machine) and proceed thru each step until the original model is almost unrecognizable for all the added machine parts. Many of his sketches are also just women in bondage, no machine parts added (the mermaid, a cowgirl, some others). But all the pics are extreme fetish shots. Interestingly, Sorayama has gone on record as saying this is his ARTWORK, and no one can draw any conclusions about his personal sexual preferences from it. Which I think means he still wants to be invited to his mom's house for Thanksgiving dinner. Sorayama's books are poster-sized, very large, these won't fit on anyone's bookshelf, and as coffee table books they do grab attention. They are also very expensive. Besides Torquere, the other is called The Gynoids, and the other may just be called "sketchbook". This is the only mermaid in bondage shot I've ever seen. You could look at the Aquaman comic as a possible source. Oh, and "MISTY", another comic book heroine, was captured and seduced by mermaids in an early issue, and set to be executed by being strapped to a giant starfish... I hope this helps. The more specific your kink is, the harder it is to find good sources. -val |
| valkyrie |
| http://valthesub.net |
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