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| Sunday May 14 01:19:55 2006 Lazos Latinos Update |
| Lazos Latino's update is ready
Enjoy it P.S: Amigo Very Wavy "no problema" with your spanish is really good. |
| Lazo Latino |
| lazo_latino@yahoo.com.mx |
| http://www.lazos-latinos.com/home |
| Sunday May 14 01:26:43 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| Here's what makes me wonder. Whan an actress is going to do a bondage scence and say it's a full treatment, gag and all- do you think she goes about it like just another day at the office? I mean if it was any other scene they probably would, or say the stunt men doing thier stunts would'nt think anything of it. Do you think they think to themselves "this is kinda kinky, I bet some viewers will get off on this" or would they not even think that? I mean let's face it, I'm sure some of these actresses do some kinky things with the men in thier lives so maybe they undestand. Do you think some of the producers/writers, etc purposley through in a bondage scence on occasion so they can see one of thier pretty actresses bound and gagged? |
| Guido Gagliano |
| Sunday May 14 02:32:44 2006 Re: Law & Order Season Finale |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Van wrote: > > > > ...& the cute brunette someone was trying to > think of > > earlier is CAREY LOWELL, the cutest ADA-ette of them > > > all!! {Sigh} Seriously, the correct order is (1) > Carey, > > (2) Angie, (3) Jill, (4) all the others... Actually, I think the correct order was (1)Jill (2)Carey (3)Angie (4)Elisabeth (5)Annie > (Jill didn't > > really spike my cute-meter 'till she grew out her > hair > > & morphed into Jordan. Who can explain it? Actually, I liked Jill better in L&O; I always imagined Jill's character to be this buttoned-up serious professional by day / deviant naughty girl by night type because of the way she was made to look. It's the old "less is more" preference. Truth be told, however, I don't think anyone approaches Elsiabeth Rohm for pure beauty. I almost always prefer brunettes to blondes, but Elisabeth had incredible features (specifically those eyes and perfect skin). Her beauty was almost unreal to me; she looked like some artist's idealized woman come to life directly from the canvas. She's definitely one of my dream DiD's. |
| Ice Cream Man |
| Sunday May 14 05:36:49 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| Guido Gagliano wrote:
> Here's what makes me wonder. Whan an actress is going to > do a bondage scence and say it's a full treatment, gag > and all- do you think she goes about it like just another > day at the office? I mean if it was any other scene they > probably would, or say the stunt men doing thier stunts > would'nt think anything of it. Do you think they think to > themselves "this is kinda kinky, I bet some viewers > will get off on this" or would they not even think > that? I mean let's face it, I'm sure some of these > actresses do some kinky things with the men in thier > lives so maybe they undestand. Do you think some of the > producers/writers, etc purposley through in a bondage > scence on occasion so they can see one of thier pretty actresses bound and gagged? For most of them, it is simply part of the job, and they derive negligible sexual pleasure from being bound and gagged. The authenticity of the bondage varies greatly, with some actresses actually being bound and gagged quite securely. They are rarely, if ever, consternated by being bound and gagged, because they are in the presence of a director, co-stars, and countless members of the film crew. They have read the script numerous times, and are fully aware that they are going to be bound and gagged. I'm sure that some actresses experience a sense of sexual titillation from being bound and gagged, and that some directors intentionally incorporate scenes with actresses bound and gagged because they are aware of the implicit sexual overtones. Ultimately, it is as our esteemed colleague Van has stated, "It's about the story, not the bondage". When an actress learns that she is to be bound and gagged in a movie, the thought that crosses her mind is not, "I'm going to be bound and gagged", but rather, "I'm going to be PAID for being bound and gagged". |
| Hadji |
| Sunday May 14 07:17:00 2006 A YouTube experiment |
| Hi all...Raffish checking in with an update. We're STILL working on those last pesky details of my new site, but I've got some news in the meantime.
Some of you will remember the "Jay L Collection" from my old site, which eventually came to include 138 clips and around 2000 caps of scenes that Jay had sent along. My new host has concluded (and I'm guessing he's right) that, if we're going to meet our goal of making Raffish DiDClips self-sustaining, we probably can't afford to put up that many clips at a time for free. However, I'd still like to get them out there somehow, given that Jay went to so much trouble to send them to me at his expense. Therefore, I'm thinking of using YouTube, and I've begun posting the original clips (plus a few that I just recently got around to) via the profile below. Once my new site launches, it will contain direct links into YouTube for each individual clip. As for the caps...not sure yet, but stay tuned. Enjoy! |
| Raffish |
| raffish@bondageparade.com |
| http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bondageparade |
| Sunday May 14 10:28:39 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| Hadji wrote:
> the thought that crosses her mind is not, "I'm going to > be bound and gagged", but rather, "I'm going to be PAID > for being bound and gagged". I'm willing to bet the thought that crosses a lot of their minds is "less dialogue to memorize". |
| LV |
| Sunday May 14 11:08:28 2006 Die Pirateninsel |
| New movie on German television this week (20 May).
Follow the link, and best picture (well, bigger picture really) is under "bildgalerien", picture number 9. |
| Martin |
| http://www.sat1.de/filme_serien/filme/content/10714/ |
| Sunday May 14 12:59:22 2006 Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| Hey Hadji thanks for your insights. I'm curious how do you know what you say is true? Have you ever spoken to actresses who were tied up on screen? Did they tell you what they were thinking? Just curious. |
| Sunday May 14 14:26:53 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| Hadji wrote:
> For most of them, it is simply part of the job, and they > derive negligible sexual pleasure from being bound and > gagged. The authenticity of the bondage varies greatly, > with some actresses actually being bound and gagged quite > securely. > They are rarely, if ever, consternated by being bound and > gagged, because they are in the presence of a director, > co-stars, and countless members of the film crew. They > have read the script numerous times, and are fully aware > that they are going to be bound and gagged. > I'm sure that some actresses experience a sense of sexual > titillation from being bound and gagged, and that some > directors intentionally incorporate scenes with actresses > bound and gagged because they are aware of the implicit > sexual overtones. Ultimately, it is as our esteemed > colleague Van has stated, "It's about the story, not > the bondage". When an actress learns that she is to > be bound and gagged in a movie, the thought that crosses > her mind is not, "I'm going to be bound and > gagged", but rather, "I'm going to be PAID for being bound and gagged". I generally agree with your assessment, though I would add that some actresses do react strongly to the scenes. Christine Lahti, for example, detests being bound and gagged, and when she was for a movie, she said that she was angry at having to go through it and tried to channel that into her acting. Indeed, she said at the time that she specifically avoids roles with a damsel-in-distress element. Of course, that may have been her feeling about THAT movie more than a general emotion, but that's what she told interviewers at the time. As we've seen from many recent comments, though, most actresses find it amusing (as with the comments about "The Missing"). Perhaps this reflects a modern attitude about kinks, or a bravado for interviewers... |
| The Kindly One |
| Sunday May 14 15:14:29 2006 raffish move |
| Excellent idea. Thank you. |
| Lyter |
| Sunday May 14 15:32:12 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| Guido Gagliano wrote:
> Here's what makes me wonder. Whan an actress is going to > do a bondage scence and say it's a full treatment, gag > and all- do you think she goes about it like just another day at the office? In reply to this, I was recently reading an article on the net about Nicole Kidman and her thoughts on her Birthday Girl role. She said she was shown the script, loved it and had to persuade the writer or director that she was right for the part. I presume her character's bondage was in the original script, along with the male leads penchant for bondage mags, and yet she (with her stature in Hollywood) chased a role which I am sure only paid a fraction of some of her other jobs |
| Gaz |
| Sunday May 14 16:20:29 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| Gaz wrote:
> Guido Gagliano wrote: > > > Here's what makes me wonder. Whan an actress is > going to > > do a bondage scence and say it's a full treatment, > gag > > and all- do you think she goes about it like just > another day at the office? > > In reply to this, I was recently reading an article on > the net about Nicole Kidman and her thoughts on her > Birthday Girl role. > She said she was shown the script, loved it and had to > persuade the writer or director that she was right for > the part. > I presume her character's bondage was in the original > script, along with the male leads penchant for bondage > mags, and yet she (with her stature in Hollywood) chased > a role which I am sure only paid a fraction of some of her other jobs I suspect the main thing about bondage in a movie is the actual context of it. Is it fun and games or deadly serious? They would probably be more up for it if the context is fun and games. And I like the fun and games aspect of it more than the deadly serious part. That's why I like stuff like magic shows and tv programs like the japanese stuff we see occasionally. Remember, all this stuff is to be enjoyed by all participants. |
| Hermango |
| hermango@hotmail.com |
| Sunday May 14 17:16:53 2006 Moniker re-born |
| Hi!
I had troubles with my old site so I opened a new one,I hope that it doesn't freeze as often as old one. Well,take a look at it. http://didmoniker.bravehost.com/ |
| Moniker |
| moniker2006@hotmail.com |
| http://didmoniker.bravehost.com/ |
| Sunday May 14 17:28:15 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Hey Hadji thanks for your insights. I'm curious how do > you know what you say is true? Have you ever spoken to > actresses who were tied up on screen? Did they tell you > what they were thinking? Just curious. My insights are speculation, based on the information I've gleaned from regularly reading this message board, as well as interviews with actresses who have been bound and gagged. I actually once did speak to an actress who was bound and gagged in an obscure film entitled "Carjack", and she said that her bondage was fake. The ropes that purportedly bound her hands were a contrivance that was secured with Velcro. Her gag was somewhat authentic, however. There are several regular contributors to this message board who are quite familiar with the entertainment industry, and they can state with confidence that, for most actresses, being bound and gagged is simply part of the job, not an erotic thrill. I do stand by my speculation that when an actress learns from reading a script that she will be bound and gagged, the fact that she will be PAID for being bound and gagged will supersede all other considerations, especially if she's struggling to establish a career. |
| Hadji |
| Sunday May 14 19:52:31 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| Guido Gagliano wrote:
> > > > > Here's what makes me wonder. Whan an actress is > > > going to do a bondage scence and say it's a full > treatment, gag and all- do you think she goes about it like just another day at the office? I had a girl friend (not a "girlfriend") who was a dramatic arts performer, plays & stuff, and there was this one she did where she was bound & gagged. Without sounding too overly eager, anxious, or interested, I kinda asked her about the scene (I don't recall the actual conversation) but I remember her saying that "yeah, in that scene where I was tied up I only had my feet tied, but was just holding the rope behind my back, kinda twisted around my wrists" (I'm paraphrasing here). I also remember her laughing, saying that backstage her mom had to help her with her gag as she couldn't tie it behind her head & her mom (I guess) had been helping her backstage between scenes get ready. Point is she didn't seem to think any more about the bondage end of the play as any other...in fact it was glossed over pretty quickly (I think the entire part of the conversation about her being tied up lasted all of 10 seconds). Interestingly, another friend of mine who also was in plays was doing a version of Robin Hood, or one of those "arabian knights"-type play, and was tied to a tree & gagged. She made a point of telling me that the worst part of the play for her was being tied up and (she said "especially" gagged) in front of her parents & siblings in the audience because she was embarrassed in them seeing her so helpless. Without getting into too much "personal-life" stuff here, this was a person I WAS involved with for a time & she did have a thing for bondage in real life so I think that it was the fact that she kinda thought being tied up was erotic anyway & that is why she got embarassed being tied up in front of her family. I'm sure her family didn't give it a second thought though. |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Sunday May 14 20:42:37 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| original poster wrote:
> do you think she goes about it like just another day at > the office? I have been on a couple of (low, medium budget) professional sets where an actress was bound and gagged; one drama and one comedy. Everyone was respectful and it was just another scene, about as intense as a (fake) light love scene. In other words, it's a little delicate and personal, but no big deal. But it does occur to me and I'm sure to others, it's always a little sexy even though no one makes talks openly about it. I think you would have to be quite a prude and almost totally unaware of human sexuality not to know a lot of people find it titilating to one degree or another. |
| Sunday May 14 21:15:16 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> But it does occur to me and I'm sure to others, it's > always a little sexy even though no one makes talks > openly about it. I think you would have to be quite a > prude and almost totally unaware of human sexuality not > to know a lot of people find it titilating to one degree > or another. I dunno. I think that to us, it seems that alot of folks we know find women in bondage, either in "real life" (as in relationship/role-playing bondage, NOT actual crime such as real rape, robbery, murder, etc.), or on TV, movies, plays, etc. erotic to varying degrees, I think the vast majority of the general population think of it as "huh?, what? whatever...you mean people get turned ON by that sorta stuff??". Think of all the times you've been in a resturant, bar, etc. and some show is on the TV playing, and perhaps a bondage scene comes on. Now YOU (or me) may basically drop what you're doing & focus on it, but most the folks in the establishment won't even notice or bat an eye. I recall watching one of the recent tie-and-gag scenes on "One Life to Life" (Melissa Archer tied to the chair & gagged, the one that was a continuation of the "cheerleaders-tied-to-poles-and-tape-gagged" plotline) I saw on a TV during the lunch hour at a Chinese buffet where me & a group of co-workers were having lunch. I watched the scene intently (luckily I'd set my timer at home to record it, thanks to a VCR Alert for it, so I didn't miss grabbing it!), but not a soul at my table even acknowledged it, even though it was right in front of us. I don't think anyone else in the restaurant gave it any interest either. Basically, and I know this has been discussed before, I really believe we are in the "major minority" when it comes to finding women, especially in mainstream media, in bondage. |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Sunday May 14 22:14:02 2006 Jessica Biel |
| Hey folks,anyone interested in Jessica Biel will enjoy her tied and gagged in the Nicholas Cage movie NEXT.A photo is in the tablod paper National Enquirer dated May 22,on page 2. |
| Johnny Mac |
| Sunday May 14 22:34:33 2006 Re: Jessica Biel |
| Johnny Mac wrote:
> Hey folks,anyone interested in Jessica Biel will enjoy > her tied and gagged in the Nicholas Cage movie NEXT. Just checked the IMDB; Jessica Biel's not in the cast list, though there is a Jessica Barth listed as "Pretty Blonde". Julianne Moore's in it too. |
| DAK |
| Sunday May 14 22:44:42 2006 Re: Jessica Biel |
| Johnny Mac wrote:
> Hey folks,anyone interested in Jessica Biel will enjoy > her tied and gagged in the Nicholas Cage movie NEXT.A > photo is in the tablod paper National Enquirer dated May > 22,on page 2. You are correct; it's Biel http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=295310 Any chance to get that pic up here? Thanks. |
| http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=295310 |
| Sunday May 14 22:59:17 2006 Jessica Biel |
| Ask and you shall receive. |
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| Sunday May 14 23:23:21 2006 Re: Jessica Biel |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Ask and you shall receive. Wow, fast, thanks. Let's hope there is a good scene before the bomb thingy which ruins the scene (if you know what I mean). |
| Sunday May 14 23:28:55 2006 Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes |
| JP wrote:
> Basically, and I know this has been discussed before, I > really believe we are in the "major minority" when it comes to finding women, especially in mainstream media, in bondage. Surveys usually find bondage the second most popular fantasy for men, after lesbian fantasies. Lots of tv and movie producers know this. Note that they don't exactly go over the top feeding the number 1 fantasy either. Just remember, bondage pornography got going in the US because Irving Klaw found 'hollywood bondage' photos were big sellers. |
| ss |
| Sunday May 14 23:32:26 2006 Re: Jessica Biel |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Let's hope there is a good scene before the bomb thingy > which ruins the scene (if you know what I mean). Release date Sept. 28......2007. Ouch. |
| Sunday May 14 23:34:10 2006 Re: Raffish- "The Collection" |
| Raffish wrote:
> Some of you will remember the "Jay L > Collection" from my old site, which eventually came > to include 138 clips and around 2000 caps of scenes that > Jay had sent along. > I'd still like to get them out there > somehow, given that Jay went to so much trouble to send > them to me at his expense. Add here I'm considering trading back for those old tapes in favour of Collector TV-DVDs with the menus. Much better a collection to work with without having to FF & REW back and forth on tapes. Problem being, having trouble getting back scenes from the early days of the page. Some it a case of a tape not being relayed to Brian, or Fuzz before the guy dropped off the page, or didn't get the proper English title of a scene- like "Schoolgirl Hitchhikers"?? |
| Jay L |
| Sunday May 14 23:44:42 2006 Notorious Betty Page |
| I saw an advance screening of The Notorious Betty Page the other night. That's the beauty of living in New York City.
Anyway it was quite disappointing. First as a film in general. But most importantly for what we enthusiasts go to these films to see. To say the film was very Vanilla, is to put it midly. The bondage scenes were hilarious, as the members of the screening audience broke out in laughter - myself included. There were re-enactments of the original Betty Page loops which are tame by modern standards and very tongue in cheek. Gretchen Mol has a great body and there were several nude shots of her as well as her in fetish attitre. What I did enjoy were the recreations of the famous Betty Page pin-ups shots that we all so love and remember. The best scene in IMO was the scene where Betty is in a standing spread eagle position wearing a white corset and gloves. She has a home made red ball gag unconvincingly stuffed in her mouth. The actor playing John Willie is singing a bawdy diitty while he checks his camera lighting and Betty is mmmphing her protest. When Willie pulls the ball gag from her mouth. Betty says she is a Christian and is offended by the song. Willie apologizies and replaces the ball gag. He then removes it and they have a serious discussion about how a religious girl can do what she does. I guess the film is entertaining and as a bondage enthusiast you should probably go see it. just for the historical references and reenactments. There are several shots of bondage magazines and quick glances of models very camply tied up. But don't expect a lot. It's funny that what was considered taboo and risque in the 1950s is just nostalgic and silly now. |
| Mike from Brooklyn |
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