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Monday May 15 00:56:27 2006
not off topic
This post was deleted.

Poster: valkyrie
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Monday May 15 01:57:21 2006
Re: Jessica Biel
Unhappy ending abroud :-(
Scoobert
Monday May 15 02:55:42 2006
Re: Jessica Biel
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Ask and you shall receive.
>

I'm happy to be wrong, even if it is a lame tape gag. Weird she wasn't listed. Thanks for the pic!
DAK
Monday May 15 06:29:39 2006
Tied and True Tales updated (gallery, 8 new stories)
Its just not getting any better for my beloved Sainters with another embarrassing loss, consigning us to the lower half of the ladder along the way… the less said about our less than saintly heroes, the better. However, you’re guaranteed to win with our latest update including Part Three of our “Tied Times Two” gallery featuring beautiful bound twosomes. For those who want to say, “No I don’t look at the pictures!” we’ve got more great reading on offer with 8 all-new stories including “It’s a Team Thing” from my pen, along with more fiction from the usual suspects including Rohana, Limey, Andrea, Rick and Brian Sands.

As usual, click on the link below to visit us at http://www.tied-and-true-tales.com or navigate straight to our Updates page at: http://www.tied-and-true-tales.com/updates.htm
http://www.tied-and-true-tales.com/gallery/two-girls/2tyd21a.jpg
mason
http://www.tied-and-true-tales.com
Monday May 15 08:20:01 2006
Update
Major John's is updated for May 15.
Major John
Silent_Night_022003@yahoo.com
http://www.majorjohns.com
Monday May 15 13:09:16 2006
Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes
JP wrote:

> I watched the scene intently (luckily I'd
> set my timer at home to record it, thanks to a VCR Alert
> for it, so I didn't miss grabbing it!), but not a soul at
> my table even acknowledged it, even though it was right
> in front of us. I don't think anyone else in the
> restaurant gave it any interest either.

At the same time, I've been in theaters where a bondage scene is in a movie and suddenly things get so quiet you can hear a pin drop. Especially if there's an erotic overtone to the whole thing (Whispers In The Dark, After Hours). So I think the answer is it depends. A noisy, busy restaurant at lunchtime is probably not the best place to attract attention for anything.
John
Monday May 15 14:58:35 2006
Re: Jessica Biel
'The story centers on a man (Cage) with the unique ability to see future events and affect their outcome. Pursued by the FBI, which is seeking to use his abilities to prevent a global terrorist attack, he ultimately is faced with the choice of saving himself or the world. Biel will play Liz, the love interest of Cage's character, whom he must attempt to save from terrorists.'

based on a short story by author Philip K. Dick.
Monday May 15 15:00:17 2006
Re: Jessica Biel
(April 2006) Filming has begun on the movie "Next" starring Nicolas Cage, Julianne Moore, and Jessica Biel and based on the Philip K Dick story, "The Golden Man."
______________________

Interesting to see that the B&G scene was one of the first ones shot
Monday May 15 15:01:38 2006
Re: Jessica Biel
> I'm happy to be wrong, even if it is a lame tape gag.

Probably didn't want a tight one after having memories of her 'Ulee's Gold' scene

Monday May 15 15:06:06 2006
Re: A YouTube experiment
Raffish wrote:

> Some of you will remember the "Jay L
> Collection" from my old site, which eventually came
> to include 138 clips and around 2000 caps of scenes that
> Jay had sent along.
> I'd still like to get them out there
> somehow,
> Therefore, I'm thinking of using YouTube

Over on Trades I asked to clarify my previous reply to this.
There reasons I opted to go careful then.

Figure great what Raffish planning, but I don't trust YouTube site in the long run.
Seen in past history here, sites go up and down. So will be working on getting back as much for TV-DVDs as can for back up purposes.

Went careful, as important you cappers realise I appreciate the favour
you guys did putting those clips up for the boys here, even though you weren't getting the proper credit due you.
100% behind you
I'd like Brian R to be more vocal about his herculean contributions in catching these scenes, but he's not either.

If this not clear? Email, or continue on Trades Page =>
Jay L
Monday May 15 15:16:23 2006
Re: A YouTube experiment
Jay L wrote:
... I don't trust
YouTube site in the long run.

Of note: YouTube has been removing all copyrighted material (and banning their posters) this week. The site was originally intended for uploading personal video, etc .. and has been abused from their point of view.
I'll give this site about a month before the MPAA takes them out as they did with EDonkey.


Major John
http://WWW.MajorJohns.Com
Monday May 15 15:41:11 2006
Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes
Something occurred to me when I read the comments by JP and the poster above. I think we are dealing with several issues: First, a certain percentage of the population does know about bondage and find it erotic. Secondly, glancing at a mainstream scene on TV does not register with most people. And third, being present when a woman is tied up on stage or in film does create some tension; however, there are many things that fall into this category. For example, we see women crying on TV all the time but when you are present in a theater or in real live and you see a woman’s tears it affects you differently. It’s not sexual but it is intimate. A person who is about to undergo an operation is going to be anesthetized. They might be nervous. We can sense that. A person who gets strapped into a rollercoaster is giving up a little control and trusting the amusement park operator to do a good job. We can sense some tension even though it is not sexual. Being present when a woman is tied up does create a little tension because the person is vulnerable but the people present may or may not be turned on by bondage. In a mainstream TV show, a woman is in danger and that is it. In the program, she could be held at gunpoint without being tied up, locked in a basement (no bondage) or tied to a chair. For most people glancing at the TV it would be about the same, a bad guy is threatening a woman. We see this fifty times a day on TV.

It might help to place our interest alongside others. There are web sites dedicated to actresses who have been barefoot in movies and TV. There are mud wrestling fetishes, female fighting or hair pulling, chloroforming websites and of course, pictures of actresses naked or topless. There are websites with pictures focusing on all of these themes. We know that actresses will do nude scenes if it is an essential part of a legitimate work. If the film is not an attempt at creating a work of art then it depends on the woman.

In a legitimate movie or TV program, an actress is not going to ask questions about a scene where she is sitting on the couch barefoot. There are guys pausing the DVD player so they can see her feet and most women have heard about foot fetishes. If actresses do nude scenes knowing that some guys will hit the pause button, why would an actress get worked up about her character getting locked in the basement, or getting out of bed barefoot, or pulling another woman’s hair or getting bound and gagged.

I have to admit, I don’t understand the reasons women use when making some of the subtle distinctions they make. If a guy’s motive is not sexual (or if he hides it) he can joke around with a woman, if he is outgoing he can say all sorts of things to her and hug her or touch her hair and talk about how soft her hair is or how nice she smells etc. If a guy is very quite and reserved, he can’t lay a finger on a woman without her knowing that he likes her. Women will do all sorts of things and if they don’t feel it is sexual it’s not a problem

For guys like us, a bound and gagged woman is a turn on, for her, it is not automatically sexual, it depends on the situation, the motives of the guy, and the feelings she gets etc. There is a big difference for most people between asking your girlfriend if you can tie her up because it would turn you on and seeing an actress on a TV screen in a restaurant who is tied to a post.

J Par
Monday May 15 15:46:07 2006
Re: A YouTube experiment
"We are providing a stage where everyone can participate and everyone can be seen," co-founder Chad Hurley told the Associated Press last month. "We see ourselves as a combination of America's Funniest Home Videos and Entertainment Tonight."

All of this would be inconsequential if it wasn't so insanely popular. YouTube users now upload more than 30,000 homemade videos each day.

Since launching in December, it now serves more than 40 million videos per day, making it a bigger player than Yahoo! Video, Google Video and AOL Video.

Monday May 15 16:22:55 2006
Re: Jessica Biel
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> based on a short story by author Philip K. Dick.

To quote Kramer: "That's amazing. That's like an ice cream man named Cone."
Monday May 15 16:27:11 2006
Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes
There must be a percentage of actresses who get turned on by being bound and gagged and accept roles kowing this is going to happen.
Cameron Diaz and Heather Locklear spring to mind.
Monday May 15 16:31:46 2006
Capones
Hello all from one your cousins in England.
Recently returned from your good shores,Kissimmee in Florida to be precise,and while there took in a show called Capones which is a singing/dancing/comedic take on the prohibition era.Near the end the female lead singer[Miss Bunny] gets tied and gagged and stays that way for approx 5 ish mins,Have photo [a tad blurred darn it ].It's a decent show for money $22 with buffet,so if you are down that way check it out.
I think they have shows at other locations in the US,dunno if they will have scene though!
Laters.
Mr Wonderful
Monday May 15 16:33:44 2006
"Surface" canceled
NBC annoucned its fall (crappy) schedule on Monday. "Surface" was not renewed. I really hope someone picks this show up.
Monday May 15 17:39:48 2006
Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> There must be a percentage of actresses who get turned on
> by being bound and gagged and accept roles kowing this is
> going to happen.
> Cameron Diaz and Heather Locklear spring to mind.

No. This is a fantasy some people seem to have, but it's only that. They are professionals, they don't turn into fetish babes because of a b/g scene any more than they turn into murderers if they play the heavy in a crime drama. Who knows what they do in their private time, but these are professionals first and foremost.

Ralph Lurinda (from The Bronx)
Monday May 15 17:42:20 2006
Re: Jessica Biel
(unsigned poster) wrote:


>
> Probably didn't want a tight one after having memories of
> her 'Ulee's Gold' scene

It's a zillion times more likely that previous experience didn't occur to her at all.


Petor Luzcuiveak (from Moscow)
Monday May 15 18:05:18 2006
Re: Jessica Biel
Wow, quite a suprise. I was beginning to think she would never get a scene again. September '07 is so far away though. Keep us updated with pics!

Rob
Monday May 15 19:50:19 2006
Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes
John wrote:

> At the same time, I've been in theaters where a bondage
> scene is in a movie and suddenly things get so quiet you
> can hear a pin drop. Especially if there's an erotic
> overtone to the whole thing (Whispers In The Dark, After
> Hours). So I think the answer is it depends. A noisy,
> busy restaurant at lunchtime is probably not the best
> place to attract attention for anything.

Point well put. However, isn't it more likely that, in your example of the hushed audience in "Whispers" and "After Hours", that the audience's attention was so focused & quiet because (in "Whispers") she was in peril, in a scene that kinda suddenly came out of nowhere, and they were in a sense "worried" about her, and wanting to know what was happening to her, because she was in some peril, and NOT specifically because she was tied up?

And in "After Hours", possibly because it was an interesting, off-beat and unexpected plot twist in the movie (plus getting a fair gander at Linda's boobs!) and, again, not specifically because she was "tied up"?

Now again, on the other hand, maybe everyone in that audience WAS dumbstruck because they are all thinking "hey, allright, she's bound and gagged...I'm so intrigued!", and if the same exact situation with the lady in question would have been happening on the screen but no ropes were involved, they'd have been somewhat "less" interested...who really knows fer sure? :-)

I do think that most folks, if the bondage does get their motor going, it's the erotic scenes (ex. "Devil's Prey", etc) with some nudity, maybe a little sex & fongling, & so forth, and not just the "plain old' girl in a business suit tied to a chair & gagged. Now, WE get a charge out of it, sure, but I don't think the general public really does. Some will, naturally, just as in the example stated above about how some will get "interested" in the women with the bare feet, those wrestling in mud, etc. , but just not a huge percentage. I'm not basing this on anything other than my own opinion of course! :-)
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Monday May 15 19:55:32 2006
Re: "Surface" canceled
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> NBC annoucned its fall (crappy) schedule on Monday.
> "Surface" was not renewed. I really hope
> someone picks this show up.

Figures. 'Surface' was interesting early on, but the characters started getting on my nerves by the end of the first season. Poor choices all around. The only thing NBC does well is sitcoms. Everything else on their programming lineup is formulaic or derivative. They'll probably look at what another programmer is doing well and try and make some horrible clone.

It's a shame as I was hoping to Leighton Meester might get a scene. Her role was expanding as the season progressed. Hopefully, she got enough exposure to get other acting jobs. She's starring in some B-Horror Flick called 'Drive Thru' about a demonic clown slashing teenagers in Orange County.
MadFish
Monday May 15 20:05:28 2006
Jennifer Grey
Don't know if it's already been posted. But, Jennifer Grey has in Tales From The Crypt: Ritual. Out on dvd.
John Denham
roadman4@netzero.com
Monday May 15 20:38:58 2006
help with youtube video
This post was moved to The Trading Forum.

Poster: Chris
Reason: Let's keep tech discussion there.
The Moderator
Monday May 15 20:46:21 2006
Re: A YouTube experiment
Major John wrote:

> Jay L wrote:
> ... I don't trust
> YouTube site in the long run.
>
> Of note: YouTube has been removing all copyrighted
> material (and banning their posters) this week.

This doesn't surprise me, I've been expecting something
along these lines.


Brian R
Monday May 15 20:57:51 2006
Three/ Survival Island
I was wondering if anybody has seen this movie. I was thinking of subscribing to showtime this month so I could watch this tonight. Is the scene with Kelly Brook worth it?

Please advise
Monday May 15 21:00:53 2006
Re: Actresses discussing bondage scenes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> There must be a percentage of actresses who get turned on
> by being bound and gagged and accept roles kowing this is
> going to happen.
> Cameron Diaz and Heather Locklear spring to mind.

As is always, we've gone from the silly way into the
ridiculous. That's it for this, move on to something
else.

Anything further, well, you know.


The Modertor
Monday May 15 21:07:03 2006
VCR alert
For anyone taping tonight, note presidential speech pushed everything back in east coast. Nothing likely on the FOX shows, but just in case they'll be going well past 10 p.m.
Monday May 15 22:11:47 2006
Cento Vetrine

what happened to "Cento Vetrine" that used on air on tln at 7p.m.
Liliana Garieri
adamo@on.aibn.com
Monday May 15 22:16:16 2006
X3: The Mystique of Bondage
The new issue of Starlog (#345) adds to our expectations for the X3 Mystique bondage scene. Various photos have shown our favorite blue mutant with her wrists manacled together in an interrogation room. Well... Starlog has a photo of Mystique in what is probably her holding cell, possibly just before she's led to her interrogation. The cell is stainless steel, about the size of a small closet, & has a door with thick steel bars. Ms. M is in what are probably the same manacles, & they're secured arms-over-head. Given that Mystique is Rebecca Romjin dipped in blue paint but otherwise nude... I flashed on House of Gord!! :-)

Also, check out the photo I found at a French site. (It's too big to post here.)
http://outnow.ch/Media/Img/2006/X-Men3/movie.fs/10?w=1400&h=948
Note the care taken in the fabrication of Mystique's manacles!! Van's First Law: It's not about the bondage,; it's about the story---but when the bondage is part of the story, isn't it nice to see it done right??

...& here's Mystique doing some manacle-jumping.
http://outnow.ch/Media/Img/2006/X-Men3/movie.fs/03?w=1400&h=933
http://www.starlog.com/graphics/articles/1219_homepage.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/

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