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Sunday December 10 00:32:05 2006
Re: That Girl
JP wrote:

> Tapemaster wrote:
>
> > If it is true that they are tempting us to buy the
> DVD
> > set, is it a coincidence that they chose THIS
> particular
> > scene to cut out? What do YOU think?
>
> Naw, Tape...I see where you're going with this and no, I
> doubt that the fact that it's a "bondage scene"
> had anything to do with it being edited. Rather, I
> imagine that the scene happened to occur almost exactly
> in the middle of the episode, and commercial breaks are
> put into the middle of 30-minute episodes.

Okay, it's POSSIBLE. However, what about THIS: I am watching the "That Girl" marathon and I noticed something: In the first episode that was broadcast (the one with the bondage scene), Ann already lives in New York City. In the second episode broadcast, Ann first moves to New York City. It is OBVIOUS that the SECOND episode that was broadcast was actually the FIRST episode produced. Why would they broadcast the second episode before the first one? From a continuity standpoint, that makes no sense at all. In many shows it might not make any difference, but in "That Girl" it makes a BIG difference! The first episode produced sets up the premise for the entire series, yet they BROADCAST the second episode first. Why? Did they want to make sure to grab people's attention by showing the episode with the bondage scene first? I think it is a strong possibility.
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Sunday December 10 01:34:07 2006
Re: That Girl
Tapemaster wrote:

> JP wrote:
>
> > Tapemaster wrote:
> >
> [Snip} The first episode produced sets up the
> premise for the entire series, yet they BROADCAST the
> second episode first. Why? Did they want to make sure to
> grab people's attention by showing the episode with the
> bondage scene first? I think it is a strong possibility.

The network "suits", of every network, have a long history of frakking around with episode orders in order to improve the ratings. Remember how the Fox morons fiddled with "Firefly"? They wanted more Action, so they made Joss Whedon open the series with what was intended to be episode three or four, 'cause it had that great train robbery scene & would be better for the audience (in their "crfeative" opinion). Imagine, some mid-level executives at Fox telling Joss Whedon, hot off of "Buffy" *&* "Angel", how to craft a series. But then, if the "suits" *didn't* mess with things, the top executives might wonder why they're paying them such ridiculously high salaries.

In any case, you're probably right about them recognizing the bondage scene as a crowd pleaser. Back then it was *very* naughty TV. (IMHO, it remains the best comedic use of bondage in TV History.)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Sunday December 10 01:45:51 2006
Best Mummification Scene?
Okay, my first visit to the board in like . . . a couple of years? I do regularly check the VCR alerts, however.

If this has been asked before (and what hasn't?), don't hate me, but: What are the best "full treatment" mummification scenes, wherein the gal is eveloped from head to toe? I understand that these are rarer than the "sitting in a chair" delights, but I'm sure you connoisseurs will provide me with some interesting examples.

See you soon. Leo.
Leo
monkmayfair2000@yahoo.com
Sunday December 10 02:14:32 2006
Re: who do you want to see get the gag?
I'm watching Kiss Kiss Bang Bang again, so I think my current vote would be for Michelle Monaghan.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.jebsadventurebound.homestead.com
Sunday December 10 02:25:41 2006
Re: That Girl
Van wrote:
> Back then it was *very* naughty TV.
> (IMHO, it remains the best comedic use of bondage in TV History.)

The scenes of her practicing are priceless.
Very funny.

Big MT
Sunday December 10 02:35:29 2006
Re: who do you want to see get the gag?
Jeb wrote:

> I'm watching Kiss Kiss Bang Bang again, so I think my
> current vote would be for Michelle Monaghan.


D'oh!!

Well, to be fair, I've never actually SEEN MI:3. Guess I'll go with Monica Belluci for the win.

Jeb
Sunday December 10 02:45:49 2006
Re: Top DiDs of each Decade?
Kinky-napper wrote:

> > What actress would you say was the top bondage
> damsel distress of each decade?
>
> I'd consider nominating:
> the 50s: Noel Neill
> the 60s: Stephanie Powers
> the 70s: Lynda Carter
> the 80s: Heather Locklear
> the 90s: Teri Hatcher
> the 00s: ?
> ----

Interesting question. Good list, but I think I'll come up with alternates in each decade:

the 50s: Gloria Winter. Ten scenes as Penny in Sky King make her a quite viable candidate. I don't think anybody else is close in the number of scenes, but Irish McCalla was about ten times sexier than either Winter or Niell.

the 60s: Elke Sommer. Nominated for being the first to wear a joyrope in a mainstream film. Actually, I think Diana Rigg is the 60s' sexiest damsel, but Elke is no slouch in the sexy dept. and there hasn't been a mainstream joyrope scene since if you don't count "Romance" so I thought I'd give Elke the nod.

the 70s: Cheri Caffaro for the Ginger movies. Actually, Cheri wasn't all that sexy looking, or that good an actress, but she sure did have some top of the line bondage scenes. Can't think of anyone sexier that had a really wild scene to match her in mainstream films of the time. (I didn't think Story of O was all that sexy.)

The 80s: I'll take Elizabeth Kaitan for her scenes in Slavegirls Beyond Infinity, Nightwish and Roller Blade Warriors: Taken by Force. Three very hot scenes. Had two nice scenes in the 90s, too.

Lana Clarkson for her incredible scenes in Barbarian Queen I and II would also be acceptable.

The 90s: a real no-brainer: Claudia Cepeda for her role as O in Story of O the series, a ten-part TV movie series that faithfully redoes the book, almost scene for scene. Cepeda's beautiful, and the bondage and sex are beautifully filmed. Sorta what the Story of O movie should have been.

I would also have accepted Xenia Seeberg for her incredibly hot bondage lapdance scene in "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" and her seven scenes in Lexx. So maybe it's not such a no-brainer, after all.

As for 2000, I agree it's premature to call it, but Chloe Hunter is going to be hard to beat for her lengthy, well-lit, bound, gagged and blindfolded scene while spreadeagled on a bed scenes.
Pat Powers
Sunday December 10 02:55:56 2006
Re: Top DiDs of each Decade?
Pat Powers wrote:

> As for 2000, I agree it's premature to call it, but Chloe
> Hunter is going to be hard to beat for her lengthy, well-lit, bound, gagged and blindfolded scene while spreadeagled on a bed scenes.

Of course, the scene in question is from the movie "Spun." Which I should have mentioned, but didn't so I'm mentioning it now.
Pat Powers
patpowers1995@yahoo.com
http://www.bondagerotica.com
Sunday December 10 03:37:56 2006
Re: That Girl
Don't know if anybody has mentioned this, but if they have, forgive me. You can see the entire episode, uncut, on the TV-Land web site. I have put the URL to the page you want below. I already checked it out and the footage we want is all there.

<rant>
For my two cents, it drives me absolutely crazy when these networks carve up tv episodes and/or movies. In this particular episode, it just so happens they cut out the part of the scene with some of the best expression shots too. All of this so they could show 10 commercials instead of 9 (I was counting). Regardless of whether there is a scene or not, shows should not be chopped up like they often are. It truly makes me not even want to watch anything on those channels again. Advertising is completely out of hand, but that's another topic, for another board.
</rant>
Wavy
verywavy@yahoo.com
http://www.tvland.com/tvlhome.jhtml
Sunday December 10 10:53:27 2006
Re: That Girl
Wavy wrote:

> <rant>
> For my two cents, it drives me absolutely crazy when
> these networks carve up tv episodes and/or movies. In
> this particular episode, it just so happens they cut out
> the part of the scene with some of the best expression
> shots too. All of this so they could show 10 commercials
> instead of 9 (I was counting). Regardless of whether
> there is a scene or not, shows should not be chopped up
> like they often are. It truly makes me not even want to
> watch anything on those channels again. Advertising is
> completely out of hand, but that's another topic, for
> another board.
> </rant>
<rant mode on>
You have to remember, to them, it's all about revenues. Increasing commercials from 9 to 10 means an 11.1% increase in revenue. And that's the bottom line, as Stone Cold used to say.
Also consider that most people watching syndicated reruns of older shows never saw them originally, so they don't really know whatthey're missing in terms of cut scenes and continuity.
Finally, think of rerun syndication as if it were being turned into something like children's Saturday morning TV. It's there to sell product, in this case DVD's with episodes intact.

LV
Sunday December 10 11:30:06 2006
Deja Vu scene?
Did anyone catch the scene in the theaters with Paula Patton? Was looking for a full report on the scene as far as length, etc.
Sunday December 10 11:52:43 2006
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The Moderator
Sunday December 10 12:07:49 2006
Kate Jackson/Dark Shadows question
Dark Shadows is now out on DVD, but it's listed as Volume 1-25 w/o the episodes listed on the box.
Does anyone know which volume has the great Kate Jackson kidnap/handgag scene?
KJ
Sunday December 10 13:06:48 2006
Re: That Girl
Van wrote:

But then, if the "suits" *didn't*
> mess with things, the top executives might wonder why
> they're paying them such ridiculously high salaries.

I don't understand. The so-called "suits" can't be as bad as described, else it's hard to believe they would have jobs for very long. It's easy to pick apart what you don't like about something, while ignoring what has sustained it over time.


Kid Flash
Sunday December 10 14:05:02 2006
Re: Top DiDs of each Decade?
> Kinky-napper wrote:
>
> > > What actress would you say was the top bondage
>
> > damsel distress of each decade?
> >
> > I'd consider nominating:
> > the 50s: Noel Neill
> > the 60s: Stephanie Powers
> > the 70s: Lynda Carter
> > the 80s: Heather Locklear
> > the 90s: Teri Hatcher
> > the 00s: ?
> > ----

Well, Teri Hatcher is the queen of the '90s. But I think we have to give an honorable mention to Daneen Boone for the Justine series, Expose, and Butterscotch (which I've never seen).

In the same vein, I'd give Kirsten Alfonso and honorable mention for the '80s.

Also, on the subject of most-wanted but have yet to receive the treatment, my top 5 admittedly gag-snob picks would probably be:

1) Maggie Grace
2) Grace Park
3) Alice Greczyn
4) Sarah Mason
5) And the one that got away: Phoebe Cates
dg
Sunday December 10 14:40:19 2006
Living Death
Came across this page with a cap from a review of a woman bound to a plank or something. Added this to Netflix and will have a full set by end of the week.
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/8428/livingdeath02ep7.jpg
Gratefuldead Roger
boundandgagged2003@hotmail.com
http://boundandgagged2005.tripod.com/
Sunday December 10 16:32:47 2006
Origin of the image Fernanda Lima
Fernanda Lima, soap opera brazilian "Bang Bang"
Serg
sfc20022004@yahoo.com.br
Sunday December 10 16:58:15 2006
Randolph College Protests
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The Moderator
Sunday December 10 17:00:23 2006
Re: Origin of the image Fernanda Lima
Serg wrote:

> Fernanda Lima, soap opera brazilian "Bang Bang"

Thank you ! ;-)

Frank

Frank
Sunday December 10 17:56:06 2006
Re: Top DiDs of each Decade?
> The 90s: a real no-brainer: Claudia Cepeda for her role as O in Story of O the series, a ten-part TV movie series
that faithfully redoes the book, almost scene for scene. Cepeda's beautiful, and the bondage and sex are beautifully filmed. Sorta what the Story of O movie
should have been.
----
I might describe "Story of O, The Series" (1992) as the best mainstream production on B&D that no one seems to know about.

E.g., if one goes to IMDB:

* The Discussion board for "The Story of O" (1975) is pretty active, yet few posters seem to be aware of the existence of "Story of O, The Series" (1992).
* "Story of O, The Series" (1992) has only one User review.
* "Story of O, The Series" (1992) Discussion board has... 0 posts.
* Claudia Cepeda's discussion board has ... 0 posts. :-(
Kinky-napper
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0147791/
Sunday December 10 19:48:22 2006
General Hospital
I just watched a five-hour GH marathon I recorded late last night of days Monday-Friday. While nothing showed up of Constance Towers' bound & gagged predicament on the Monday, Wednesday, or Thursday episodes, (and I think she still looks very attractive even at her age!), Tuesday's episode showed more footage of her tied to the bed. There was only one scene, at around the half-way mark, the villainess enters the room & taunts Ms. Towers. She is already tied to the bed & cleave gagged. The scene lasted a minute or two (typical soap segment), and was the only scene of her that episode. So nothing was shown of her except for this one Tuesday segment, and the one from Friday. In thie scene from Tuesday, the bad lady enters & begins telling Constance how she "Constance" got her wish, and the bad lady had been fired from her job, and with no one to take "care" of her in the room anymore, she will probably starve to death eventually.
As she was already tied to the bed, and apparently being "taken care of" by the bad lady, this situation has obviously been going on a while...at least as far back as last week sometime. Must have totally slipped under everyone's radar.

Scene is still going on so more next week I imagine. I wonder how this all began.
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Sunday December 10 20:42:58 2006
Re: That Girl
Kid Flash wrote:

> Van wrote:
>
> > But then, if the "suits" *didn't*
> > mess with things, the top executives might wonder why
> > they're paying them such ridiculously high salaries.
>
> I don't understand. The so-called "suits" can't
> be as bad as described, else it's hard to believe they
> would have jobs for very long. It's easy to pick apart
> what you don't like about something, while ignoring what
> has sustained it over time.

That's just it. Executive turnover in Hollywood at the studios & networks is incredibly high. Even turnover of CEO's & VP's is high. Don't you follow the Entertainment "News"? ;-)

Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Sunday December 10 20:48:27 2006
Re: meat
M7 wrote:

> Le Bastard's gay little brother wrote:
>
> > I saw a movie in black and white where a girl got
> gagged
> > with meat.
> >
> >
> Could it be American History X?

Doubt it. The only black and white scenes are at the beginning if I recall correctly, and there's definitely nothing of this sort.

MC
Sunday December 10 21:02:11 2006
Re: meat
My brother says it is American History X.
Le Bastard's anal little brother
Sunday December 10 22:09:14 2006
Re: meat
Le Bastard's anal little brother wrote:

> My brother says it is American History X.

Yeah. It is - this happens in the scene where the neo nazi punks raid the supermarket, and attack the clerks. Why anyone would want DiD from a film of this nature is beyond me, but hey - I guess I'm one to talk, what with all the horror I watch.

X
Sunday December 10 22:32:45 2006
Sleeper Cell - Sonya Walger
At the tail-end of tonight's season premier, Sonya Walger's character is seen in a terrorist hostage video bound (hands behind) and tape gagged. She puts up some valiant struggling, but meets an unfortunate end.

It's on Showtime so it's easy to catch a repeat.
http://www.makeup411.com/images/beauty_breakdown/Coupling_Sonya.jpg
Lex
Sunday December 10 23:21:50 2006
Next week's Dexter...Jennifer Carpenter full treatment
Tonight's episode ended with a shot of Dexter's sister (played by Jennifer Carpenter) lying out cold with her hands duct taped in front of her. Previews for next week show her with her hands wrapped in tape in front of her, her arms taped to her sides, her ankles and knees taped, and her mouth tape gagged as well as blindfolded. One quick shot has her screaming with the tape half off her mouth and the killer pulls it off with a roll of duct tape in his other hand (possibly to put a fresh layer on)

Next week shouldn't disappoint...waiting to catch the replay of Sleeper Cell in a few minutes, too
Will the Bloody

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