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Saturday December 02 00:03:10 2006
Re: This Fall Season - Scene of the Year
(unsigned poster) wrote:


> My Scene of the Year is safe unless something really big
> happens. Kellie Martin. Good lord!

Yes? Can I help you?

I personally don't think Kellie Martin is all that great looking, especially for an actress her age. If I remember seeing that scene correctly (and it was more than three minutes ago, so maybe not) the girl that was with her in those scenes was much better looking.

To each his own, but.




God
Saturday December 02 00:06:59 2006
Scene of the Year
Kelly Monico = General Hospital
Dogg
Saturday December 02 00:21:01 2006
Re: This Fall Season - Scene of the Year
God wrote:

> I personally don't think Kellie Martin is all that great
> looking, especially for an actress her age. If I
> remember seeing that scene correctly (and it was more
> than three minutes ago, so maybe not) the girl that was
> with her in those scenes was much better looking.

Not actually seeing that much of a difference between those two attractive brunettes, but...good scene either way.
http://www.bondageparade.com/dl/LiveOnceDieTwice.jpg
Raffish
Saturday December 02 00:39:10 2006
turistas
All the leading ladies get B&G except one.Many meet a terrible ending though.
Saturday December 02 02:22:51 2006
Re: turistas
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> All the leading ladies get B&G except one.Many meet a
> terrible ending though.

Well, to resolve this, which one DOESN'T get the B&G??
Thanks!

Saturday December 02 02:31:11 2006
vegas
did las vegas pan out to any bondage? I'm guessing not but thought I'd ask. I didn't bother recording it after I watched the first 5 minutes when Molly was seen being put into the casket.
Saturday December 02 03:35:14 2006
Re: vegas
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> did las vegas pan out to any bondage?


Nothing much from the little that I saw. Delinda (Molly Sims) had her hands tied in front for a few moments in the second hour. Saw her again later with her hands behind her back in a chair.
DJ (No Not That One)
Saturday December 02 04:04:37 2006
Re: vegas
DJ (No Not That One) wrote:

Saw her again later with her hands
> behind her back in a chair.

Hands and feet tied while in chair in last 10 minutes of ep.
No gag. No real great shots.
She was still just sitting there after an explosion went off in the shed killing her 2 guards.
You'd think she'd try to hop away or something like that.
Looks like another disappointment.
BiG MT
Saturday December 02 04:42:37 2006
Re: Alicia Leigh Willis
Raffish wrote:
> > Best soap DinD of all time?
> I'm still going to have to give
> the best-of-all-time nod to Laura Herring in "Sunset
> Beach," followed by Stephanie Cameron in
> "Days," based on the sheer length and variety
> of those sequences

Stephanie Cameron is my all time favorite, have an entire folder dedicated to just her scene(s). Love the dream sequence where she's tied on the bed and rescued. Damn it's over we think, then we see her still b&g on the bed and lucky for us it was just a dream and the scene goes on and on and on. Great stuff there. You could write a laundry list of all the great elements in this marathon.

I'd rank Martha Byrne's lengthy captivity w/ hogtie scenes as number 2.
Big MT
Saturday December 02 05:28:00 2006
Desire comes through
Okay, that's just plain neat. Clips are available accordingly.

I'd appreciate it if someone could let me know who the damsel is. I missed that particular detail, and my database would really like to have it.
http://www.bondageparade.com/dl/Desire-Part1.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/dl/Desire-Part2.jpg
Raffish
http://www.bondageparade.com/
Saturday December 02 06:12:24 2006
Re: Desire comes through
Raffish wrote:

> I'd appreciate it if someone could let me know who the
> damsel is. I missed that particular detail, and my
> database would really like to have it.

Raffish, the character's name is "Andrea Zavatti" and she is played by Michelle Belegrin.


Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Saturday December 02 10:28:39 2006
Re: Best scene of the year -- gotta be desire
Gotta be last night's desire. The guy spends five-ten minutes fondling, gloating over, etc. his bound DiD. I've never seen such a long, intense scene. Only thing that could have improved it would have been leaving the gag on the whole time. But I've not seen anything even CLOSE to this in mainstream TV since, say Xenia Seeburg's bondage spreadeagle in underwear in Lexx, complete with bound, naked guy being lowered atop her. And the Lexx scene didn't have NEARLY the fondling that the Desire scene.

But for sheer length and fondling, I've not seen anything to match it.
Pat Powers
Saturday December 02 11:05:53 2006
Inspector Mom
Hello All,

Remember a couple weeks back when the Lifetime original movie "Inspector Mom" turned out to be a bust? Well, they're running bi-weekly webisodes viewable only from the Lifetime Movie Network page (they're free) and in the final episode there's a little action. There's a quick shot of an older babe b&g, (duct tape) in the closet and a quick shot of a hottie getting cuffed at the end. It's kind of a touunge-n-cheeky drama, so these webisodes will be worth checking out in the future. I have no idea how long they will run, but hopefully long enough for a quality scene to show up, but one never knows. They come out each Tuesday and Thursday.
PW
Saturday December 02 11:57:22 2006
Calling All Aussies
Home And Away has just reached a point here in Pomland where evil Mamma Rose is about to kidnap Martha and Tasha. We understand from tv mags here that the ladies are kept in a caravan and chains are involved, but no more than that.

Nothing in the DB, but that may not always be bang up to date I appreciate, so do any of you in Oz know of any more specific details of this story?
Martin
Saturday December 02 12:33:25 2006
Re: Calling All Aussies
Martin wrote: Home And Away has just reached a point here in Pomland where evil Mamma Rose is about to kidnap Martha and Tasha.
>>
> Nothing in the DB, but that may not always be bang up to
> date I appreciate, so do any of you in Oz know of any
> more specific details of this story?

Martin, check http://www.kinkindex.com - scroll down and you will see a little info on rthe upcoming scene. Hope that helps!
zinger
Saturday December 02 12:55:32 2006
Re: Inspector Mom
PW wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Remember a couple weeks back when the Lifetime original
> movie "Inspector Mom" turned out to be a bust?
> Well, they're running bi-weekly webisodes viewable only
> from the Lifetime Movie Network page

Don't understand why they don't just run them as hour episodes on the network. It's not like they are overwhelmed with original shows.

The lead is the hottie from the "Wonder Years."
Saturday December 02 13:09:13 2006
Re: vegas
BiG MT wrote:
>
> Hands and feet tied while in chair in last 10 minutes of
> ep.
> No gag. No real great shots.
> Looks like another disappointment.

I disagree. There was a good close-up of her tied hands. The ropework around her hands was excellent. I enjoyed this scene very much.
Another Dave
Saturday December 02 13:19:36 2006
General Hospital
Not the same without Cynthia Preston and Alicia Leigh Willis
http://sjc-static12.sjc.youtube.com/vi/qEVU8N-M4Mw/2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEVU8N-M4Mw
Saturday December 02 13:30:51 2006
Re: Note about Desire
Raffish wrote:

> Sigh...missed the OTS carry, since my TiVo cut off before
> that point.

I think there is another OTS coming. The one they showed in the preview was outside near a car. It might come on Monday or Tuesday when they transport the damsel to the warehouse for the finale.
Saturday December 02 14:13:35 2006
Is it possible to do a "Gor" or a "Ginger" nowadays?
I was thinking .... would it be possible to create a book/movie/TV series like the Gor novels or the Ginger movies, which are chock full of bondage scenes, but are not clearly recognized as being all about the bondage by the mainstream folks? I mean, the first Gor novel was written back in 1967, and the first Ginger movie was made in 1970, when kinky stuff Just Didn't Happen in the mainstream, or if it did, it was as an example of psychologically disturbed people being psychologically disturbed (see: "Story of O").

I think because the Gor novels were first accepted as mainstream SF, and the Ginger movies as standard sexploitation detective movies, they gave readers who would never ordinarily touch an overtly kinky title a certain license to read a Gor novel/watch a Ginger movie. Kind of the way a lot of guys who'd never be seen buying a copy of Maxim or FHM will buy a copy of the Sport Illustrated swimsuit edition because it's not not a men's magazine, it's Sports illustrated.

But things were different back then: the common perception was that bondage was something only practiced by beret-wearing beatniks in New York City with the aid of capri-pants wearing hotties like Bettie Page. It wasn't something that people expected to see in mainstream books and movies, unless presented specificaly as a bondage story, like "Story of O." So when they watched Ginger or read the Gor novels, they didn't really see it.

Of course, people are a lot more sophisticated about bondage nowadays, but they're also a lot less sensitized to it in certain respect. That is, during the recent episode of "Desire" where the bad guy spent so much time fondling and gloating over his bound victim, there's a DEFINITE sexual bondage subtext going on there. I think modern audiences would tend to note and not be particularly upset about this because it's just something a director might do in an edgy damsel in distress scene. Their awareness of sexual bondag3e has in a sense desensitized them.

So, the quest is, could someone do a bondage series of some kind now in a mainstream venue, without having it immediately recognized for what it is? Would the increased awareness of sexual bondage make them more apt to catch on, or would the desensitizing of audiences to sexual bondage imagery make them less apt to catch on?

And for bonus points, what sort of venue might work? That is, what sort of mainstream movie/TV/novel genre might work as effectively for bondage imagery as John Norman's sword and sand fantasies, or the Ginger movies' detective genre?
Pat Powers
patpowers1995@yahoo.com
http://www.bondagerotica.com
Saturday December 02 14:14:13 2006
YouTube
Shannon Tweed B&G in 'The Surrogate'

Amazing F/F scene!
http://www.houseofbondage.com/raffish/canuck/files/TheSurrogate02.jpg
http://www.houseofbondage.com/raffish/canuck/files/TheSurrogate05.jpg
http://www.houseofbondage.com/raffish/canuck/files/TheSurrogate07.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c2e4K2aN80
Saturday December 02 14:53:30 2006
Re: Desire ("Flash Point")
> I've never seen such a long, intense scene. Only thing that could have improved it would have been leaving the gag on the whole time. But I've not seen anything even CLOSE to this in mainstream TV since, say Xenia Seeburg's bondage spreadeagle in underwear in Lexx, complete with bound, naked guy being lowered atop her. And the Lexx scene didn't have NEARLY the fondling that the Desire scene.

But for sheer length and fondling, I've not seen anything to match it.
----
I was wondering if someone else was going to comment on this gem!

Standout evil captor gloating and slimeball-osity. In fact, for the Scene Database entry, I included the last part of their dialogue.

I especially appreciated that when the EC warned the damsel that "Another word, and gag goes back on." -- he really meant it. She says one short "psychological defense mechanism" statement -- and he re-gags her ("Time for you to be quiet.").
Kinky-napper
Saturday December 02 15:09:38 2006
Re: Calling All Aussies
zinger wrote:

> Martin, check http://www.kinkindex.com - scroll down and you
> will see a little info on rthe upcoming scene. Hope that helps!

That's brilliant. Thanks a lot! Great site too by the way.

Martin
Saturday December 02 15:15:58 2006
Heart of the Storm 12-2-Sat Fox Noon ct
Heart of the Storm 2004 12-2-Sat Fox Noon central time
http://movietome.com/movietome/servlet/MovieMain/movieid-129203

Melissa Gilbert (Cassie Broadbeck)
http://imdb.com/name/nm0001271
http://movietome.com/movietome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-1057
http://www.tv.com/person/1057/summary.html

In about the last 15 minutes (with commercials)
a convict ties her hands behind her back very
loosely with a lamp cord.

I am hoping this will be on Fox out West.
If not, I will create the database entry
but I am hoping someone gets a chance to
record this and get a better look.
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://imdb.com/title/tt0427342
Saturday December 02 15:36:21 2006
Re: General Hospital
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEVU8N-M4Mw

I'll probably sound out of the loop, but does YT have more soap scenes. Not JUST GH but others. Lets just say for example, uh, Steph Cameron in her jammies on DOOL or Barbara Crampton from TB&TB or a younger Kelly Ripa on AMC?
Saturday December 02 15:43:38 2006
Re: General Hospital
> Not the same without Cynthia Preston and Alicia Leigh
> Willis

8 B&G scenes between them

http://www.cynthiapreston.com/assets/images/2003events/cyndy_club5.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/GeneralHospital-CPreston.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/GeneralHospital-ALW.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEVU8N-M4Mw
Saturday December 02 16:58:33 2006
Re: Desire ("Flash Point")
Kinky-napper wrote:

> I've never seen such a long, intense scene. Only
> thing that could have improved it would have been leaving
> the gag on the whole time.

KN and Pat, I love it when the gag comes off, then on again; much better drama, and it was on plenty here - no complaints from me.

> But for sheer length and fondling, I've not seen anything
> to match it.

I was great and she's hot! The hand down the breast to the stomach.... awesome. He almost kissed her over the gag... almost!

> I was wondering if someone else was going to comment on
> this gem!
> Standout evil captor gloating and slimeball-osity. In
> fact, for the Scene Database entry, I included the last
> part of their dialogue.
>
> I especially appreciated that when the EC warned the
> damsel that "Another word, and gag goes back
> on." -- he really meant it.

Very close to scene of the year except for one thing, and it's a big thing...
hands tied in front is a major buzz kill for me; not realistic, not sexy, not inescapable... just dumb.

One saving grace; I think her hands are tied behind in the next episode; last of the season. If they are, then it's scene of the year so far from me. Close second is the recent Passions soap where the blonde is stripped to her bra, blindfolded and gagged (would be #1 if we saw the gag alone if even for a second).
Saturday December 02 17:01:10 2006
Re: Desire ("Flash Point")
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I was great and she's hot!

It was great (not me), sorry for typo.
Saturday December 02 17:05:05 2006
Re: Heart of the Storm 12-2-Sat Fox Noon ct
> I am hoping this will be on Fox out West.
> If not, I will create the database entry
> but I am hoping someone gets a chance to
> record this and get a better look.
> http://imdb.com/title/tt0427342

I remember her getting her hands bound behind her, but don't recall with what. I taped the airing that was on Lifetime Movie Network earlier this summer and don't have it handy.

civil
Saturday December 02 18:43:09 2006
Re: Desire ("Flash Point")
just to make sure I'm up to speed with everybody...down here in the States there has only been ONE episode...last night (Friday)...where she has actually been gagged, correct? I only saw the very first alert for this show yesterday afternoon so anything that happened before Friday's episode I missed (which doesn't bother me if there was no gagging onvolved).
The previews showed at least 2 additional gag scenes....one with her lying down & one with her looking angry over her gag. Are both of those supposed to show up on Tuesday Dec. 5th?
rex
Saturday December 02 18:49:33 2006
Re: Desire ("Flash Point")
rex wrote:

> just to make sure I'm up to speed with everybody...down
> here in the States there has only been ONE episode...last
> night (Friday)...where she has actually been gagged,
> correct?

The only ep of Desire I've seen is Friday night's but it did have her lying down while gagged.

Pat Powers
Saturday December 02 19:49:59 2006
Cartooners: Anyone vaguely remember this show?
Years ago, there was a cartoon called "Creepy Crawlers", based on the then-popular toy where make stuff with some orange box, anyway, the cartoon based on it, if I remember right, had a girl in there who into peril a few times. Brown hair, pink shirt, love interest of the human hero? I'm just curious about it.
Saturday December 02 20:17:39 2006
Re: Cartooners: Anyone vaguely remember this show?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0128871/

The IMDB is our friend!
:^)
Snowcat
Saturday December 02 20:43:07 2006
Re: Desire ("Flash Point")

> Very close to scene of the year except for one thing, and it's a big thing...
hands tied in front is a major buzz kill for me; not realistic, not sexy, not inescapable... just dumb.
.
At least when the hands are tied in front, you can see that they are really tied, and I love seeing the wrist really tied tight, ether in front or back. If in that scene her hands were behind her while she was on her back, how would you know that they were really tied? She could just be holding her hands in back for that entire scene. In any bondage scene, if they never show the hands Tied in back, 9 times out of 10 their Not!
Jerry
Saturday December 02 20:51:31 2006
Re: Desire ("Flash Point")

They just showed that entire scene on flash backs of last weeks Desire.
Jerry
Saturday December 02 21:11:25 2006
Re: Desire ("Flash Point")

Jerry wrote:
They just showed that entire scene on flash backs of last
weeks Desire.

They also showed the entire kidnapping scene with the close ups of the tieing of the hands & feet with duct tape, and the OTS scene. They also showed some of the chair tied & close up gag scenes. The scene with her on her back started with him saying "time for you to be quiet". He then re-gagged her and they showed the rest of the scene from here till the ending fade out.
Jerry
Saturday December 02 21:53:13 2006
Re: Cartooners: Anyone vaguely remember this show?
Snowcat wrote:
> The IMDB is our friend!
> :^)

A good start, but I'm afraid it's practically...nothing. Thanks anyway, at least someone remembers

If anyone remebers any scenes from the series or has pics at least, you know where to go: Here! lol
Saturday December 02 22:14:45 2006
Turistas
Here's the deal.

Only decent scene occurs early, and it's with Olga Diegues who plays a girl from Sweden. She's the one tied to the posts being carried through the forest with her boyfriend, a.k.a. a Swedish putz.

Contrary to what we have been believing thus far, Beau Garrett is actually the ONE female lead that isn't gagged nor restrained in any way. Melissa George, and Olivia Wilde are tied hands behind and gagged in cages. Here's the problem: the scene is extremely dark and dirty, and loaded with putzes. Some decent stuff for George, but really nothing mind blowing.

All things considered, fun film, more of an action than horror flick, though there's some terrible latin rapping, and some awful ethnocentric stereotyping of Brazil.
X
Saturday December 02 22:43:34 2006
Re: Desire ("Flash Point")
Jesus, I always watch this show at night knowing something might happen on it, and the one time I don't watch it I miss everything.
SLJ
Saturday December 02 22:47:06 2006
Re: vegas
Another Dave wrote:

> BiG MT wrote:
> >
> > Hands and feet tied while in chair in last 10
> minutes of
> > ep.
> > No gag. No real great shots.
> > Looks like another disappointment.
>
> I disagree. There was a good close-up of her tied hands.
> The ropework around her hands was excellent. I enjoyed
> this scene very much.

This scenario screamed for a gag. With all of her wisecracking and face-spitting, and the main kidnapper's constant commands for her to "shut up", you'd think he'd finally do something about it! Sigh ...
Stephen
Saturday December 02 23:07:37 2006
Re: Turistas
X wrote:


> All things considered, fun film, more of an action than
> horror flick, though there's some terrible latin rapping,
> and some awful ethnocentric stereotyping of Brazil.

If I movie has a decent scene or two, I am perfectly fine with the ethnocentric stereotyping. I don't too many guys on this site would disagree.
Lula
Saturday December 02 23:29:30 2006
Re: Turistas
X wrote:

> Here's the deal.
> All things considered, fun film, more of an action than
> horror flick, though there's some terrible latin rapping,
> and some awful ethnocentric stereotyping of Brazil.

Furthermore, their Spanish grammar is bad. "Turistas" with an "-as" at the end should be used only if the tourists are made up exclusively of women; even if there are nine women and one man, the proper word would be "Turistos" with an "-os" at the end. Since there are plenty of putzes in the mix, the title should have used the "-os." I was hoping against all rational hope that there wouldn't be any putzes because of the strictly feminine title, but we aren't so lucky, obviously. Thanks, Hollywood.
Ice Cream Man

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