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Tuesday December 05 00:03:13 2006
Re: Question For The Board?- Re: Desire
Jay L wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:

> > it's a syndicated, short
> > run, prime time TV show (series drama) imho.
>
>
> It's likely going to be lined up that way then.

I'd go slow. Think about similar things like the
telenovelas these are copies of.

Brian R
Tuesday December 05 00:48:23 2006
Re: La Verdad Oculta
Jay L wrote:

> Those clips you have are mine, correct?
> As they made from what aired particular episode, and the
> scenes ongoing still....
> all will be going in the DB once the scene ends

Well, most of them are yours (and a big thank you for them, too)...but not all...I have one from some time ago, plus another from Youtube. Not all the clips list the actresses up front. But I'm happy knowing that the info will be on the dB at some point (another thanks!). Patience is indeed an important virtue, and I do have a little of it at this point in my life.

I had much the same kinds of ID-ing issues when Lazos Latinos was active. Nobody was writing entries for those clips; and although many times the actresses were identified, often the episodes were not or were (according to the IMdB) wrongly attributed. I tried to do a lot of the ID-ing work for myself, but I'm not really a fluent Spanish speaker and also not really familiar with the shows' plot lines, so I couldn't do the entries, really. Very frustrating for a collector who's got a mania for being "complete."

If you happen to know of a Spanish speaker who's linked to the Forum, I'd be happy to work with this person (sharing clips, etc.) to generate good entries.

Anyway, that's an offer, for what it's worth.

Keep up the good work.
Dannysuling
dannysuling@yahoo.com
Tuesday December 05 00:53:56 2006
Re: Question For The Board?- Re: Desire
Brian R wrote:

> We apply the soap opera designator to telenovelas,
> I believe, so this would seem appropriate here.


Got it. Thanks
Jay L
Tuesday December 05 00:57:57 2006
Re: Ernest Goes To Africa - Linda Kash
Wavy wrote:

> I came across a better version of this one

Thanks much, Wavy. Bad film. Nice scenes. Justifies the editing software and effort.

Dannysuling
Dannysuling
dannysuling@yahoo.com
Tuesday December 05 01:34:37 2006
Desire on Monday
Scene continued in Monday's episode. In opening minutes, damsel has been cleave gagged again, hands still tied in front and feet taped. Sofia Milos leaves the room, and the bad guy throws her back on the sofa for some more fondling/harassment. Best line was "I've always dreamed of this moment, Andrea. Having you helpless....quiet."

Then Sofia Milos comes back in a spoils the fun. She pulls the guy over to the other side of the room. While there, the B&G damsel crawls on the floor and finds the knife. She cuts the tape off her hands and feet and tries to attack the bad guy with the knife. Sofia Milos then drills her over the head with a vase.

Few minutes later, they arrive at the ransom drop. Damsel is in the back seat of the car, tied up but not gagged. Gag still around her neck. She's then carried OTS from the car and into the hideout while unconscious. She sits on the floor and stays tied up for the rest of the hour after waking up.

Looked like the bad guy was going to double cross Sofia Milos, but he backed off (damn!).

Series ends Tuesday night.
Tuesday December 05 01:35:02 2006
Re: Question For The Board?- Re: Desire
Brian R wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> it also airs only at night

***** None of those are particularly important in my opinion. *****

Okay got this, but in Unsigned's defence,
"Aired in US at night" has sort of been used as a designator since the Dynasty show hassle awhile back.

At the time recall back when the Dallas show aired here, it was at night and someone in the United States recalled same. Why Dallas & Dynasty shows are current TV Series

Likely source of confusion
Jay L
Tuesday December 05 02:12:34 2006
Re: La Verdad Oculta
Dannysuling wrote:

> Jay L wrote:
> Those clips you have are mine, correct?

**** Well, most of them are yours ****

Figured.
And there still more to come.
Why no entry
Jay L
Tuesday December 05 08:58:24 2006
Re: Question For The Board?- Re: Desire
Brian R wrote:

> I'd go slow. Think about similar things like the
> telenovelas these are copies of.

Yes, like telenovelas, but not exactly; telenovelas look and sound like and are generally positioned as "soaps" but I don't think My Network or the Producers of Desire and the coming flood of series like Wicked Wicked Ways and others that follow Desire, would ever position or call their shows "soap operas". It's a drama series in their minds; it doesn't look like, or compete with, nor is it programed like, "soap operas"; they (the producers) are trying to look like, and are going up against, shows like Vegas, and they're doing it in primetime.
Tuesday December 05 10:41:19 2006
Re: Question For The Board?- Re: Desire
(unsigned poster) wrote:
....and they're doing it in primetime.

This is a 'syndicated' show. Believe the air time varies from place to place. In my area 'Desire' is on at 5PM.

anon22
Tuesday December 05 11:55:50 2006
YouTube ID
Does anyone know the scene? Cute girl duct-tape gagged and struggling
http://sjl-static9.sjl.youtube.com/vi/aoLJ9rn3H3w/2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLJ9rn3H3w
Tuesday December 05 12:14:59 2006
Heart of the Storm
> Obviously there was some sort of a scene in it. What
> happened? Was it any good? What'd we miss (since there
> isn't a Database entry in yet).

I originally noticed that Melissa Gilbert was in a movie where excapees that take her family captive. I started to tape it just for the hell of it. I walked back in the room as her husband showed up and was shot. The criminals were preparing to leave and they then bound Gilbert's hands behind her with black cord (maybe lampcord). Occurred in the last 15 to 20 min of the movie and lasted maybe a minute or so. Pure luck that I got it. She never got gagged. I am not sure if the one daughter had her hands tied or not. It was nice, but my opinion is different than others.

Once I find the tape and rewatch it. I will add an entry summarizing the scene.



civil
Tuesday December 05 12:39:12 2006
Re: YouTube ID
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Does anyone know the scene? Cute girl duct-tape gagged
> and struggling
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLJ9rn3H3w

Yeah, I have a copy of this clip from another source. I believe it's taken from a 1987 German movie, "Kies," but there's no entry in Brian's db, and the IMdB is not much help narrowing down who the DiD actress is:

Dany Mannor?
Ilse Matheis?
Dorothea Moritz?

To JayL's contact, Peter: can you help?

Anyone else out there know more about this?
Dannysuling
dannysuling@yahoo.com
Tuesday December 05 12:53:47 2006
Re: YouTube ID
> Dorothea Moritz?

Too old
http:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLJ9rn3H3w
Tuesday December 05 12:56:03 2006
Re: YouTube ID
> Dany Mannor?

Dany Mann - born in 1938

Tuesday December 05 14:18:58 2006
Re: YouTube ID
More new videos, including Kelly Ripa's second B&G scene on All My Children


http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=brinyw
Tuesday December 05 14:51:40 2006
Ulee's Gold
Don't recall this shot in the film. DVD?
http://www.zima-sisters.net/vanessa/uleegold/uleebind.jpg
Peter F
Tuesday December 05 15:08:04 2006
YouTube
Trailer for still unreleased film '88 Minutes' with Al Pacino (where Alicia Witt has huge cleave gag)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/media/promo_alicia_witt.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4R7bxUpQxU
Tuesday December 05 15:10:27 2006
Re: YouTube
Also 'The Jinn'

http://www.newmotionpictures.com/TheJinn005.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uam-GjFzYwo
Tuesday December 05 15:13:16 2006
Re: YouTube ID
> More new videos, including Kelly Ripa's second B&G
> scene on All My Children

Some good stuff
http://sjl-static13.sjl.youtube.com/vi/cQSRpaSn5Rs/2.jpg
http://sjc-static7.sjc.youtube.com/vi/G_fkaTssJRw/2.jpg
http://sjc-static3.sjc.youtube.com/vi/qoqsNORn4Yw/2.jpg
Cy Lence
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=brinyw
Tuesday December 05 15:14:40 2006
Re: Ulee's Gold
Peter F wrote:

> Don't recall this shot in the film. DVD?

Likely just a publcity still. When the scene started, the daughter and mom were already bound and gagged, with the thugs gagging Jessica Biel on screen. Guess here is the thugs are just out of the picture to the left and about to tape up Biel. Photo likely taken a few seconds before, but that shot was not in the film.

Tuesday December 05 15:20:39 2006
Re: Ulee's Gold
(unsigned poster) wrote:

Guess here is the
> thugs are just out of the picture to the left and about
> to tape up Biel. Photo likely taken a few seconds before,
> but that shot was not in the film.

??? I specifically do remember this scene from the movie version I saw. They might have cut it out of later tv versions,I don't know, but I have seen this already.


Allah
Tuesday December 05 15:35:36 2006
Re: Ulee's Gold
Allah wrote:

> I specifically do remember this scene from the movie
> version I saw. They might have cut it out of later tv
> versions,I don't know, but I have seen this already.

I've only seen TV versions, but one of them was Showtime and I don't think they cut any scenes. In my version, the thugs ask Peter Fonda "have any duct tape?" and he says "sure."

Next cut shows hands and feet of the three damsels being taped, with camera then shifting to Biel, who is already gagged with the thugs wrapping more duct tape around her mouth. Camera then pans to the second damsel, then the mom, who gets an apology. Never saw any shot of two damsels gagged and Biel ungagged.



Tuesday December 05 15:49:05 2006
Re: Ulee's Gold
Nice look on Jessica's face anyway
Tuesday December 05 15:51:54 2006
New Clips and New DvD #15
Clips "K11" and "Lenssen".

Ciao!
http://www.pantydidcap.com/forum/k11_1.jpg
http://www.pantydidcap.com/forum/len.jpg
PantyDiDCap
info@PantyDiDCap.com
http://www.PantyDiDCap.com
Tuesday December 05 17:33:50 2006
Re: New Clips and New DvD #15
PantyDiDCap wrote:

> Clips "K11" and "Lenssen".
>
> Ciao!
> http://www.PantyDiDCap.com

Well, okay, thanks...I think. First of all, the Lenssen & Partner clip is not publicly available; it's in the members' section. Did you intend that, to tease us, or is it misplaced?

Second, the K11 clip's full title is "K11-Kommissare Im Einsatz." But I haven't a clue about which episode, or who the DiD actress is.

Lookin' for a little help, here.
Dannysuling
dannysuling@yahoo.com
Tuesday December 05 17:37:38 2006
Re: New Clips and New DvD #15
PantyDiDCap wrote:

> Clips "K11" and "Lenssen".
>
> Ciao!
> http://www.PantyDiDCap.com

There's also a clip available on the site labeled as "Protection." Hmmm.... Could this be "Executive Protection," aka "Livvakterna" (2001, Sweden)? Is this DiD Lia Boysen?

It's not that I don't appreciate your efforts, Panty DiD. I do. But it would be really thoughtful of you if you would add to the value of your site by posting more complete information, rather than making the sleuths among us try to figure things out.

Grazie.

Dannysuling
dannysuling@yahoo.com
Tuesday December 05 17:50:34 2006
Re: New Clips and New DvD #15
Dannysuling wrote:

> the Lenssen
> & Partner clip is not publicly available
> Lookin' for a little help, here.


If you'd like to watch some Lenssen & Partner clips,
come talk to me on Trades =>
Jay L
Tuesday December 05 18:00:59 2006
88 minutes
Looking over that last scene were three women seem to be in jeopardy (just before Al P grabs the rope with the woman falling through the glass)it almost looks as though two of the ladies are sporting a gag. Unable to identify any of them though
Tuesday December 05 18:21:31 2006
Desire
I know Raffish had some clips up from Desire - we don't follow the net too closely, so the clip tonight might be repetitive.
If so, just ignore.
http://www.majorjohns.com/desire3.jpg
Stephanie
http://www.majorjohns.com
Tuesday December 05 19:31:21 2006
Re: YouTube ID
Dannysuling wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know the scene? Cute girl duct-tape
> gagged
> > and struggling
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLJ9rn3H3w
>
> Yeah, I have a copy of this clip from another source. I
> believe it's taken from a 1987 German movie,
> "Kies," but there's no entry in Brian's db, and
> the IMdB is not much help narrowing down who the DiD
> actress is:

Haven't seen the movie in question, but if The clip is from "Kies", it was probably a repeat. Somehow this looks to me much more recent than 1987.
Peter de K
Tuesday December 05 19:33:47 2006
Re: New Clips and New DvD #15
Dannysuling wrote:

> "Executive Protection," aka
> "Livvakterna" (2001, Sweden)? Is this DiD Lia
> Boysen?

Yes, on both accounts.

Peter de K
Tuesday December 05 20:02:05 2006
Re: YouTube ID
Peter de K wrote:

> Haven't seen the movie in question, but if The clip is
> from "Kies", it was probably a repeat. Somehow
> this looks to me much more recent than 1987.

Peter, I can't say where that Yuotube poster got his/her clip from, but mine's definitely been in my library more than a few years. I didn't get it from any recent broadcast.

To me (at my advanced age and hoary memory), the style of dress and haircut look exactly like the late '80s. But, then, I haven't been able to find anything on this movie anywhere but the IMdB, and what they've got is precious little (as in, "a very little, my Presssiouss...."), so who really knows what the release date is.

A puzzle worth exploring, if like me you enjoy solving that kind of mystery. I'll keep investigating, and if I find out anything I'll duly post it.

Thanks anyway.



Dannysuling
dannysuling@yahoo.com
Tuesday December 05 20:04:40 2006
Re: New Clips and New DvD #15
Peter de K wrote:


> Yes, on both accounts.

Thank you, Peter, for the confirmation. It actually gives me a little frisson (hmmm...make that "eine freudige Erregung"....) when my sleuthing turns out so positive.

On we go!
Dannysuling
dannysuling@yahoo.com
Tuesday December 05 20:30:04 2006
True Crime/Detective Magazine Covers
And now.. for something completely different...

I've been working on compiling a database of True Crime/Detective magazine covers which show bound/gagged damsels for a while, and currently have a little over 600 of them listed.

Of the cover scans I've got, around 400 or so are completely identified (magazine name and date/issue#), 200 or so are partially I.D.ed (magazine name only) and a handful are totally unknown. The picture below is a montage of the cover fragments that are total mysteries.

If any readers here recognize any of the covers shown, or if this is your area of expertise or interest, I'd appreciate your info or correspondence.

Larger pictures are at the URL link, and even larger ones are at the Yahoo group: (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/truecrimemagazines/).
http://www.pofoz.com/did/totallyunknow.jpg
Pofoz
http://pofoz.com/did/truecrimemagazines-totallyunknown.html
Tuesday December 05 23:02:25 2006
Re: True Crime/Detective Magazine Covers
What a good idea! Can't help you out with any, but best of luck!
It'd make a good coffee table book when the whole things through.
SLJ

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