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| Monday January 01 02:28:21 2007 While it appears that in the year just past... |
| ...we lost only thirteen actresses with scenes in the database, along with a couple whose names are not there but perhaps should be, there were a plethora of other people-actors, directors, authors, and the like-on the periphery of what we have come to call mainstream bondage who passed away in 2006, along with persons whose actual lives in some ways lent themselves to the creation of database entries.
And among those in the database, I feel that only one actress-Phyllis Kirk, who passed away October 19-can genuinely be considered a Hall of Famer. While her best-known scene was a remake, the difference was in the manner in which it was remade. I will not here continue the argument over whether her scene in 1953's "House of Wax" or the production number in "Roman Scandals" two decades earlier was truly the first in which nudity was unambiguously implied. What made Kirk's scene groundbreaking was that the nudity was an integral part of the perilous situation in which her character found herself. And while the "Roman Scandals" scene-which I must admit to never having seen; I'm relying here on the database description-simply could NOT have actually been filmed with nude actresses (since it was, after all, made in 1933-the same year Fay Wray was shown covered in a sheet in the original scene that "House of Wax" remade), anyone who has viewed Kirk's scene must acknowledge that it at least was shot in a manner to make it appear that it well COULD have been, although it certainly was not. Further, I think we have to give Kirk credit for her dedication to her craft. As was revealed in news accounts of her death, she really didn't want to take the "House of Wax" role-in fact, she was ironically quoted as having said she "didn't want to become (her) generation's Fay Wray." This having been during the waning days of the studio system, however, she didn't have much say in the matter. Nonetheless, she masterfully put aside any lingering resentment and gave us a performance truly worthy of the Hall of Fame in a film justifiably ranked among the great horror classics. Such professionalism would continue to serve Kirk well as Nora Charles opposite Peter Lawford as Nick in the 1957-59 "The Thin Man" television series, during which she racked up her remaining database scenes, and in her later life in public relations and social activism once her acting career waned. And while humor is perhaps misplaced in an obituary, it must be mentioned that Kirk's age was somewhat in dispute. She would have been 77 according to the IMDb, although all the news accounts of her passing that I saw gave her age as 79, which would be more in line with the year of birth I previously saw listed for her in other sources such as the World Almanac. Some of those sources, however, once showed her as having been born as many as five years before that. Not that it matters now, of course, but we will perhaps never know for sure-as she likely intended. Incidentally, having mentioned 1933's "Roman Scandals" above, it might be worth noting that Gigi Parrish, listed in the IMDb as an uncredited cast member of that film, died February 8 at 93. Also, Shelley Winters, whose name doesn't appear in the database despite playing a character whose body was shown tied to the passenger seat of a submerged convertible in a haunting underwater shot in 1955's "The Night of the Hunter," passed away January 14 at 85. She perhaps obtained a measure of poetic justice by playing the title character, who drowns a bound and gagged Pamela Dunlap, in "Bloody Mama" in 1970. Of the remaining actresses in the database, the first, Sophie Heathcote, may not be there for long. She is credited with a scene in an unidentified episode of the 1996-2001 Australian TV series "Water Rats," but the entry carries a note that the scene's existence is in question. Sadly, Heathcote was only 33 when she died on January 4 due to an aneurysm while being treated for cancer. Jean Byron, credited with being tied up in 1952's "Voodoo Tiger" by a database author based on screen captures, died February 3 at 80. Lou Gish, handcuffed to a bed in a 2002 episode of the British sitcom "Coupling," was 38 when she succumbed to cancer February 20. Jennifer Jayne, tied up in 1967's "They Came from Beyond Space," died April 23 at 74. Kasey Rogers got it in a couple of TV episodes; once in "Sergeant Preston of the Yukon" in 1957, and again four years later in "Maverick." She passed away July 6 at 80. June Allyson was yet another longtime star of both the big and small screens who apparently only managed to get into a single tieup throughout the decades-"Blackout" in 1978. She was 88 when she died on July 8. Cancer claimed Karen Mayo-Chandler ("Africa Express," 1989) on July 11 at 48. Sally Gray perhaps deserves note for the time that passed between her two scenes-"The Saint in London" in 1939, and "The Keeper" nearly four decades later, in 1976. She passed away September 24 at 90. Tina Aumont ("Texas Across the River," 1966; "Lifespan," 1974) died October 28 at 60. Adrienne Shelley, found dead apparently due to foul play on November 1 at 40, left behind scenes in 1992's "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me" and "Teresa's Tattoo" two years later. Claude Jade, with a scene in a 1979 French miniseries with the English Title "Coffin Island" to her credit, was 58 when she died of cancer on December 1. Kyoko Kishida, bound in the 1964 Japanese film "Suna no onna (Woman of the Dunes)," passed away December 17 at 76. And when it comes to those on the periphery, it somehow seems inadequate to categorize Aaron Spelling that way. What was said here at the time of his passing on June 23 at 83 bears repeating: The challenge would be to go to his IMDb entry and try to find titles of works he produced that AREN'T in the database. The same could perhaps be said for author Mickey Spillane, whose best-known creation has been responsible for at least nine database entries so far, and will no doubt continue to spawn new ones. Spillane was 88 when he died on July 17. The other writers we lost this year whose works inspired database scenes included Henry ("Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?") Farrell, who died March 29 at 85; Joseph Stefano, co-creator of "The Outer Limits," who died August 25 at 84; and Joseph Hayes, who passed away Septermber 11 at 88. He wrote the play "The Desperate Hours," the 1991 movie version of which gave us both a tieup and a handgagging. One more writer authored a screenplay for a remake of a movie that is in the database-a remake that has been reported here to have a scene of its own as well. Ted Berkman, who wrote the script for 1957's "Short Cut to Hell," a remake of 1942's "This Gun for Hire" with Veronica Lake's legendary scene, died May 12 at 92. If the later scene actually exists and someone here has viewed it, a database entry would make a nice remembrance. Spelling wasn't the only producer who had a major impact on the database that we lost this year. Try throwing the title "General Hospital" into the database and count the hits (there are currently 52). It's a safe bet that Gloria Monty was at least partly responsible for many of them. In fact, she was credited with saving the soap, which was on the ropes when she took over as its executive producer in 1978, a post she held until 1987, and again from 1991-92. Monty was 84 when she passed away March 29. And Broadway producer Cy Feuer, who died May 17 at 95, perhaps deserves a mention here inasmuch as he is credited as musical director of three movie serials in the database-"Daughter of Don Q," "Jesse James Rides Again," and "The Crimson Ghost." Six directors with database titles passed away in 2006, the most prolific among them Richard Fleischer with five entries-"The Clay Pigeon" (1949, Barbara Hale), "Fantastic Voyage" (1966, Raquel Welch), "Doctor Doolittle" (1967, Samantha Eggar), "The Boston Strangler" (1968, Sally Kellerman), and "Ashanti" (1979, Beverly Johnson). Fleischer died March 25 at 89. Also, Val Guest, who co-directed the 1967 James Bond spoof "Casino Royale" (Daliah Lavi, Barbara Bouchet) died May 10 at 94; Hubert Cornfield ("The Night of the Following Day," 1968, Pamela Franklin) passed away June 18 at 77; Vincent Sherman ("The Return of Doctor X," 1939, Rosemary Lane) died the same day at 99; Gillo Pontecorvo ("Kapo," 1959, with an unidentified actress in an execution scene) passed away October 12 at 86; and Robert Altman, who supervised both Shelley Duvall's turn as Olive Oyl in 1980's "Popeye" and Julia Roberts' satirical rendering of Susan Hayward's "I Want to Live!" gas-chamber scene in "The Player" in 1992, died November 20 at 81. Several animators and comic artists whose creations either landed in the database themselves or spawned live-action scenes there passed away last year, the most famous of them, of course, Joseph Barbera on December 18 at 95. Along with him we lost Alex Toth, the comic artist who created "Space Ghost" and also worked on "Fantastic Four" and "Birdman and the Galaxy Trio," on May 27 at 77, and Ed Benedict, the Hanna-Barbera animator who designed the "Flintstones" characters, on August 28 at 94. And as always, there were performers we lost who either had a penchant for being in the field of view of the camera when an actress got it, or may have been even more responsible for a scene ending up in the database. Indeed there is at least one whose name possibly belongs there itself-Polly Burson, the "Queen of the Western Stuntwomen," who passed away April 4 at 86. The IMDb credits her as having stood in for both Linda Stirling and Betty Hutton. Since he shared Bob Hope's penchant for comedy, it's rather surprising that Don Knotts, who was 81 when he died on February 24, appears to have only managed to be around two tieups-a 1961 "Andy Griffith Show" episode, and 1968's "The Shakiest Gun in the West"-which, ironically, was a remake of Hope's "The Paleface" from two decades earlier. Comedy was a penchant which Glenn Ford, who died August 30 at 90, didn't always share with Knotts, but at least he was lucky enough to play the male lead opposite the victim of one of cinema's all-time great comic chair ties-Debbie Reynolds in "The Gazebo" in 1959. By the way, does anyone know if that sequence was staged the same way in the Broadway play this movie was based on? If it was, whoever played Reynolds' role probably deserves to be in the Hall of Fame next to Reynolds for doing the same thing she did night after night. As for Ford, he also came to the rescue of his character's Indian-abducted wife and daughters in "Day of the Evil Gun" in 1968, and may have been involved in the two scenes from his 1971-72 TV series "Cade's County" in the database. And having mentioned Mickey Spillane above, it is perhaps worth noting the passing of Darren McGavin, the first actor to play Mike Hammer on TV, on February 25 at 83. That 1957 series produced a database entry. McGavin was also the villain who applied a handgag to Roberta Shore in a 1964 episode of "The Virginian" and the rescuer of a bed-tied woman in the 1972 TV movie "The Night Stalker," which spawned the eponymous series. Also, as was noted here when he died November 10 at 87, Jack Palance seemed to make a habit of taking roles in productions that were bound (pun perhaps partially intended) to result in tieups-in the movies "Sign of the Pagan" and "The Silver Chalice" in 1954, "The Mongols" in 1961, "The Professionals" in 1966, "Marquis de Sade: Justine" and "Legion of the Damned" in 1969, "The Four Deuces" in 1976, and the TV shows "The Man from U.N.C.L.E." in 1966 and "Bronk" a decade later. And while her late husband's "Superman" movies sadly only produced a single database scene-one which not only didn't involve Lois Lane but didn't even make it into the final cut of the film-let's go ahead and tip a glass anyway to Christopher Reeve's widow Dana, who succumbed to cancer on March 6 at 44, in tribute to her devotion and in hope for the goals she and her husband worked toward so mightily. Who knows? Had fate not intervened and forced a premature halt to her performing career, her name might well be in the database. Finally, there were two people whose real lives, like Reeve's, linked them at least peripherally to us. In fact, the first of these two was not only married to an actress in the database, but his well-publicized infidelity to her eventually put another scene into it. If you're old enough to remember JFK's presidency or the Twist, does the name "Christine Keeler" ring a bell? If so, then you probably recall that her paramour-or her client, if you ascribe to some of the darker accounts of her nature-was John Profumo, a defense minister in the British cabinet in the early 1960s. The bad news for Profumo wasn't that his wife-Valerie Hobson, of "Bride of Frankenstein" fame, with four other database scenes-eventually found out about that. It was that Keeler was at the same time (ahem, ahem) "seeing" a Soviet military attache (read "spy"), and that British intelligence and the press eventually found out about THAT. The database entry which resulted from all of this is Britt Ekland's scene in the 1989 account of the affair rather unimaginatively titled "Scandal." Profumo passed away March 9 at 91. And if you believe in the maxim that behind every great man there is a great woman, pour yourself a good stiff one and cue up your favorite scene, then kick back in your most comfortable chair while you watch and drink a well-deserved toast to Elma Gardner "Pem" Farnsworth, whose husband, none other than the immortal Philo T. Farnsworth, is today recognized as the principal inventor of television as we know it. One cannot help but wonder how we would otherwise fill the hours we spend here had she not been there to ensure that he persevered when the chips were down. Mrs. Farnsworth was 98 when she died on April 27. Let us once again pause at the start of this New Year to contemplate what the actresses and their creative cohorts whose names appear above have bequeathed to us, and resolve to continue honoring their memory through our best efforts here. |
| An Old Friend |
| Monday January 01 03:40:52 2007 Bones commentary non-alery |
| Just got finished watching the DVD of the Bones episode called "Two Bodies in the Lab" (1.15), DB Record number: 11921. Sadly, the commentary from stars Deschanel and Boreanaz makes no reference to the bondage. |
| Jeb |
| jebdel@yahoo.com |
| http://www.jebsadventurebound.net |
| Monday January 01 05:04:29 2007 Re: While it appears that in the year just past... |
| Um...wow?
Evidently a bit too drunk just now to comment more intelligently, |
| Raffish |
| Monday January 01 08:33:46 2007 Re: While it appears that in the year just past... |
| An Old Friend wrote:
DOUBLE WOW !!!!!!!!! Happy New Year Everybody |
| Jacot |
| Monday January 01 10:37:15 2007 Re: While it appears that in the year just past... |
| An Old Friend wrote:
> And if you believe in the maxim that behind every great > man there is a great woman, pour yourself a good stiff one and cue up your favorite scene, then kick back in your most comfortable chair while you watch and drink a well-deserved toast to Elma Gardner "Pem" Farnsworth, whose husband, none other than the immortal Philo T. Farnsworth, is today recognized as the principal inventor of television as we know it. And if it's not going to immediately make the moderator hate me, it's also worth mentioning that Aaron Sorkin's pet project _The Farnsworth Invention_ might, just might, be coming to a (movie) theatre near you at some point in 2007. We can hope. |
| Raffish |
| Monday January 01 10:57:54 2007 Wildfire |
| Family is having a WildFire marathon today. There's nothing in the database, but I seem to recall a scene on the Alerts page a while back. Can anyone shed any light?
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| H |
| diddvd@yahoo.com |
| http://www.diddvd.com |
| Monday January 01 11:27:08 2007 Re: Wildfire |
| H wrote:
> Family is having a WildFire marathon today. There's > nothing in the database, but I seem to recall a scene on > the Alerts page a while back. Can anyone shed any light? > http://www.diddvd.com You are correct, Mr Filter alerted to this Here the alert: ___________________________________ Wednesday May 25 03:15:32 2005 Possible scene - wildfire Think I may of have caught a scene - TV show is "Wildfire", a new series by ABC. Looks like a drama based on a "send your bad kids to the country to play with horses" camp. Pretty sure I saw some cutie cuffed. Don't want to post this in Alerts because it is a bit off. (June 20th) AsbestosFilter ______________________________________________ |
| Jay L |
| Monday January 01 12:20:34 2007 Re: Victims comic book |
| Viking wrote:
> I saw that the shortlived 1970's comic book > "Victims", which featured two sexy women > (Blonde and African American)who are put in dire > situations including several DiD situations is now in one long form graphic novel. Interesting. I was just thinking that of all the entertainments I've enjoyed this holiday weekend -- the movies, the TV shows, the websites, etc., the one that has made the biggest impression and enjoyed the most by far was reading Jim Silke's "Betty Page, Queen of the Nile" graphic novel. It was huge fun, lots of sexy, naked and almost naked Bettie Page, and lots of B-movie hi-jinks involving flying belts, crocodiles, mummies, Cleopatra and such. Damn, it would make a fun movie. I already have several issues of "Cavewoman" comics, which I would LOVE to see in graphic novel format. So my question is, are there any other series that feature sexy, sultry, often half-naked or completely naked babes, preferably in DiD scenarios, available in Graphic Novel form? |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday January 01 13:26:22 2007 24 Season Five DVD |
| On the Special Features disc of the 24 Season Five DVD, go to the Supporting Players featurette. At the very beginning Kim Raver talks about her first day on 24, how she was "blindfolded, gagged, handcuffed and thrown into a van." Something she also mentioned on Leno a couple of years ago. |
| Paul Raines |
| Monday January 01 15:03:49 2007 Passions |
| The preview for tomorrow's episode of "Passions" shows "Fancy" (Emily Harper) encountering again the masked villain that bound and gagged her recently. There is no evidence that any bondage will happen, but it is worth watching tomorrow. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday January 01 15:10:53 2007 Desperate Housewives -- Eva handcuffed |
| In last night's "Desperate Housewives", "Gabrielle" (Eva Longoria) was arrested and shoved into a policecar with her hands cuffed in front. Obviously, there was no gag. She was resisting arrest and had her feet on the policecar. The episode was a repeat. I remember someone here mentioning this scene when it first aired. I don't know the episode title. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday January 01 15:44:41 2007 Re: Victims comic book |
| Pat Powers wrote:
So my question is, are there any other series > that feature sexy, sultry, often half-naked or completely > naked babes, preferably in DiD scenarios, available in Graphic Novel form? THis is probably old news to you, but the big-ass German hardcover collection of all the 1940-50s GWENDOLINE strips is still available from Bud Plant, and was half-price the last time I checked. I bought this on a whim a few years back and was blown away by it. A very pretty book, and well worth getting both as an entertainment and as a piece of bondage history.It's both old-fashioned and transgresive at the same time, and set much of look and iconography of bondage erotica that is still with us today in everything from X-Men comics to what the goth girls in the mall are wearing. John Willie was a genius. I'm not sure if it has any nudity in it, but Peter David and George Perez's 1990's "B-Movie on paper" SACHS AND VIOLENS (about a fetish model and a crime photographer who team up... to fight crime!)was just recently reprinted in it's entirety as a trade paperback. I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive, and I only read two issues of it's original 90's run, but I remember both of those issues having nice B/G scenes, and anytime Perez draws women it's a special treat. This is also interesting in that, as far as I know, it's the only bondage/fetish theamed comic drawn by Perez, a comics legend who has admitted in interviews to being One of Us. |
| Kid Monster |
| Monday January 01 17:23:50 2007 Re: Victims comic book |
| Yes, John Willie was a genius and an inspiration to me in my own damsel in distress cartoons. You might also want to check out Adam Warren's work on the "Dirty Pair" series he did for Dark Horse Comics. He also did a great Gen 13 parody that had 2 of the female characters tied up with Hot Wheels racing tracks (I'm not kidding!). The only other place I can think of for more damsel art is Japan. There are many adult japanese comics that use bondage as a central theme. Problem is (for me anyway) much of the ropework and situations revolve around S&M. |
| Andre |
| toon.man@verizon.net |
| http://www.damseltheater.com/andre/index.html |
| Monday January 01 18:37:25 2007 Amores Tuesday |
| Just a heads up on the Grand Finale telenovela on Telemundo. It did not air today at 2PM EST even though Telemundo advertised it all last week as being on Monday and Friday. It is listed on Direct TV as being on tomorrow, Tuesday, at 2PM EST channel 47 Telemundo. Since it has such great potential I would keep a watch out for it everyday. |
| Monday January 01 20:30:32 2007 CSI:Miami |
| Tonights episode at 10pm on CBS is a rerun. When I saw this originally, I am positive I saw a lady gagged somewhere in the last 15 to 20 mins. It was a flashback scene showing how the man entered her apartment and killed her. The scene is blink and you'll miss it. I can't remember if she was bound or not. |
| civil |
| Monday January 01 22:09:05 2007 PASSIONS |
| I too saw the preview on Passions today. Caveat though is that President Ford's funeral could impact all soaps tomorrow particularly here on the east coast. |
| hallbird |
| Monday January 01 23:10:44 2007 Re: Victims comic book |
| Kid Monster wrote:
l form? > > THis is probably old news to you, but the big-ass German > hardcover collection of all the 1940-50s GWENDOLINE > strips is still available from Bud Plant, and was > half-price the last time I checked. It is not old news to me. It's new news. I'll definitely be checking this out. > I'm not sure if it has any nudity in it, but Peter David > and George Perez's 1990's "B-Movie on paper" > SACHS AND VIOLENS (about a fetish model and a crime > photographer who team up... to fight crime!)was just > recently reprinted in it's entirety as a trade paperback. Oh, this sounds like The Very Thing I was looking for. I will be all over this. Thanks for the heads up! |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday January 01 23:31:58 2007 Re: PASSIONS |
| > I too saw the preview on Passions today. Caveat though
> is that President Ford's funeral could impact all soaps > tomorrow particularly here on the east coast. Here in SoCal, Passions and Amores air at the same time. I'll be set to record both. Amores sounds like a better bet for a scene (almost guaranteed), and you never know about Passions. That Fancy sure likes to get into trouble. :) |
| GH Fan |
| Monday January 01 23:35:51 2007 Bluecollar Comedy |
| Hello All,
I remember a while back someone posting about a regular actress on the show getting b&g during an episode of the Jeff Foxworthy Bluecollar comedy show. I heard there is a new season out on DVD and wondering if anyone could shed any light as to whether it's worth it. Best, |
| PW |
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