|
|
Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
|
|
| Saturday August 20 00:36:55 2005 Re: Television series without putzes |
| Hadji wrote:
> Most television series that contain one or more episodes > in which one or more actresses are bound and gagged > invariably feature putzes at one time or another as well. > Viewers such as ourselves persevere and loyally watch > these programs, tolerating and suffering through the putz > scenes, for the ultimate unparalleled reward of seeing an > actress bound and gagged. > I can think of one series that contained two scenes in > which actresses were bound and gagged, and didn't contain > a single putz scene, to the best of my knowledge. This > series was "Automan", where Heather McNair and > Laura Branigan were both bound and gagged. Can anyone > else think of such a series, one that was untarnished by > one or more putz scenes? I don't understand your question. Are you referring to a particular series or scenes. I'm over 50 and maybe 1% or less of the scenes I've seen over the years have putz interference. It may be a problem with a particular scene but overall the vast majority of scenes I've seen have no putz interference and the same can go for series. Actually there have been more scenes in series where a putz is bound alone than with a female. |
| hallbird |
| Saturday August 20 00:37:09 2005 Re: Television series without putzes |
| Hadji wrote:
> Can anyone else think of such a series, one that was untarnished by one or more putz scenes? Off hand I would suggest Jake 2.0, but I suppose that would be cheating wouldn't it? Ever the smartass, |
| Knottz |
| Saturday August 20 00:55:53 2005 Re: Rainbow- Street of Dreams |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> I'm sure many of us remember the 80's rock band Rainbow > and their video for "Street of Dreams," which > is of course of interest to us > Perhaps a little help on > this. How making out on this? Since you posted, included looking for it whilst looking for Cranberries one for review. Got the Cranberry one today, can use it over on Trades Page to get both these and pass them around. I can even throw in some 1st round draft picks in any deal. Let me know over there. |
| Jay L |
| Saturday August 20 02:06:40 2005 Re: Television series without putzes |
| hallbird wrote:
> Hadji wrote: > Can > anyone > > else think of such a series, one that was > untarnished by > > one or more putz scenes? > I don't understand your question. Are you referring to a > particular series or scenes. I'm over 50 and maybe 1% or > less of the scenes I've seen over the years have putz > interference. It may be a problem with a particular > scene but overall the vast majority of scenes I've seen > have no putz interference and the same can go for series. > Actually there have been more scenes in series where a putz is bound alone than with a female. Let me elucidate: can anyone think of a series, such as "Automan", that featured one or more DID scenes, but never had a putz scene? "Automan", a short-lived series that aired during the early 1980s, had two epsiodes in which actresses were bound and gagged, but never had an episode with a putz. Another contributor to this board, Knottz, just mentioned another such series, "Jake 2.0". Prolific series such as "The Fall Guy" and "Vegas" were tarnished by the occasional episode featuring a putz. I'd like to know if there were any series whose episodes were unblemished by the presence of a putz scene. |
| Hadji |
| Saturday August 20 02:08:37 2005 Re: Television series without putzes |
| Hadji wrote:
> Most television series that contain one or more episodes > in which one or more actresses are bound and gagged > invariably feature putzes at one time or another as well. If males and females get tied up in different episodes of the same series, why would you care? > Viewers such as ourselves persevere and loyally watch > these programs, tolerating and suffering I don't see where the "suffering" comes in. Why are you suffering? If you don't feel like something arouses you, that's obviously up to you. I wouldn't exactly call that "suffering". > I can think of one series that contained two scenes in > which actresses were bound and gagged, and didn't contain > a single putz scene Only one? There must be many more than one. |
| Saturday August 20 02:17:15 2005 New Site Address |
| I have started a new page with Tripod, so hopefully this can handle the bandwidth. On that page are the Sin City caps as well as Hostage, Love Object and Darkness. The Geocities site will remain up so you might still be able to get some caps there. |
| Gratefuldead Roger |
| boundandgagged2003@hotmail.com |
| http://boundandgagged2005.tripod.com/index.htm |
| Saturday August 20 02:31:11 2005 Re: Attn: Canucks & Northern Yanks |
| moxx of balhoom wrote:
> http://www.showmethefilm.com/ > Wonder if this will make it over to Blighty? Doubt it. But will work on getting ahold of for pass around. |
| Jay L |
| Saturday August 20 06:41:26 2005 Custom-built Gags by the Props department |
| > "The Scarlet Letter" (1995), which
included Demi Moore > > > > today. Anyhoo... there was a sequence where the camera was on Demi when she was not on camera, but was still gagged. (The set was apparently waiting for a lighting change or something similar.) She absently popped the gag out of her mouth, without using her hands, then popped it back in. The gag appeared to be rigged with an elastic band or some other hidden means of simulating an effective cleave-gag!. The gag *looked* reasonably tight, it was a purpose-made prop, & they seem to have looked for & found an effective compromise between realism & humane treatment of the talent. Cool!! :-) ---- Now why can't my work with the company's "Build team" consultants through their Business requirements/Functional specifications/Delivery cycle be as interesting? E.g., Description: Bit-Gag, retractable. Prioritization: High (1). Level of Effort: Low-Medium. QA: Pass. User Acceptance Tester: Demi Moore. UAT: Pass! Other *cool* gags that were obviously built by the Props dept (rather than completed by a quick run to a local adult store): the velco front-closing gag in Walker, Texas Ranger ("The Return of LaRue"); Francesca Annis' padded plug-gag in "Dune" (1984); and Virginia Bryant's leather studded strap-gag in "The Barbarians". |
| Kinky-napper |
| Saturday August 20 07:26:42 2005 Re: Could anyone identify that vidcap? |
| Filou wrote:
> Martin wrote: > > > You're right Filou. It IS "Hinter > Gittern". I > > saw this episode earlier this year on RTL. > > Another question: the DiD in uniform could be Barbara > Freier (as Uschi). Who's the second one in street clothes? I think I've an aswer by my own: she could be Heidi Weigelt. Thanks for help anyway, Martin. |
| Filou |
| Saturday August 20 10:12:33 2005 Hurry Hurry Turn it on |
| It's 1015 am the East coast, I just turned on SOAP network, and the MELRSE PLACE BIG BANG THEORY PART 1 just started, Part 2 to follow 11-12. I've never seen this before, hope I helped someone else out there. |
| Rob T |
| Saturday August 20 11:49:08 2005 interesting wallpaper... |
|
This post was deleted. Poster: steve Reason: Huge image. |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday August 20 12:23:23 2005 Sheree J. Wilson |
| I'm fairly new here & I wanted to start a topic.
So what's the big deal with Sheree J. Wilson? She's moderately attractive, but an absolutely terrible actress. Is her only appeal the fact that she gets tied up quite often? She was on Dallas for a short time. They killed her off fast. Then she landed a part on Walker, Texas Ranger. This show was good, but her acting really brought the program down. She didn't express emotions well, like fear. Watching her try to act scared was like a wet dog shiver. I think the writers had Alex tied up & gagged so much because they got tired of her bad acting. |
| Ed |
| Saturday August 20 12:55:25 2005 Quick question.. |
|
This post was moved to The Trading Forum. Poster: S Reason: Off-topic. Ask for caps and clips over there |
| The Moderator |
| Saturday August 20 12:59:47 2005 Re: 5 Best gag scenes? |
| I'm surprised no one's mentioned Ulee's Gold.
|
| Peter Fonda |
| Saturday August 20 13:00:04 2005 Re: Sheree J. Wilson |
| Ed wrote:
> I'm fairly new here & I wanted to start a topic. > Is her only appeal the fact that she gets tied > up quite often? I think her appeal comes from the fact that some people find her appealing. If you don't, that's up to you. > I think the writers had Alex tied up & gagged so much > because they got tired of her bad acting. You're not serious, of course. |
| A bored lawya |
| Saturday August 20 14:05:11 2005 Late alert for THUNDERBOLT |
| Airing today at 4PM PT on TNT. See the Alerts page for details, and my site for caps. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Saturday August 20 17:25:38 2005 Re: Site Update |
| Raffish wrote:
> Nicely done! Up for some constructive criticism? Thanks for the head's up! I'll definitely give those items a look. Prolly need to look at the whole article again... |
| Pat Powers |
| http://www.bondagerotica.com |
| Saturday August 20 17:43:27 2005 Re: Sheree J. Wilson |
| Ed wrote:
> I'm fairly new here & I wanted to start a topic. > > So what's the big deal with Sheree J. Wilson? She's > moderately attractive, but an absolutely terrible > actress. Is her only appeal the fact that she gets tied > up quite often? > > > I think the writers had Alex tied up & gagged so much > because they got tired of her bad acting. I've never actually seen Walker but I was thinking of importing a box set. I remember Carl McGuire elevating Wilson to his Hall of Fame as one of the most tied actresses of the 1990s. So is the series any good? Which season would be a good one to buy (I know only the last sason is available at present but hypotheticly speaking)? And what are the scenes like? Is it a question of quantity over quality? |
| moxx of balhoom |
| Saturday August 20 17:45:38 2005 Sin City Question |
| The database description for "Sin City" mentions another actress playing a prostitute briefly seen with her hands tied in front while being confronted by other prostitutes who think she's a traitor. Someone a few weeks ago said this actress was Alexis Bledel which would make since she plays a traitor/prostitute in the film.
However, I've been through every frame of the prostitute scenes three times now and CANNOT find even a second where Bledel or any other actress is tied hands in front. Bledel is briefly held at gunpoint by the same guys holding Rosario Dawson's character but she doesn't seem to be tied. In a closeup she briefly has both hands in front of her but not together. Then, when it cuts to a wide shot she puts her hands at her sides clearly showing that there not tied or cuffed. Is it somewhere else in the film? |
| CM |
| Saturday August 20 17:48:35 2005 The "Sheree J. Wilson" effect |
| That's the name I propose for the theory that the number of scenes an actress produces during her career is inversely proportional to her talent.
And I've got to admit, there just may be something to it. Consider if you will: How many actresses have won Oscars for performances where they got it? Three, if you don't count Ingrid Bergman (and I don't; I just don't think that's really her tied to the chair in that "Murder on the Orient Express" scene). Now, how may scenes does each have in the database? Glad you asked. Charlize Theron, 2003's Best Actress winner for "Monster," has only three-one of them a simple blindfolding in a "Saturday Night Live" appearance that probably doesn't even belong over there, another a handgagging. 1999 Best Supporting Actress and "Girl, Interrupted" co-star Angelina Jolie manages only one more scene than that, and one of hers is also a handgagging. The best actress of the bunch, Susan "I Want to Live!" Hayward, left us only the gas-chamber sequence that won her the 1958 Best Actress award and a brief appearance in handcuffs earlier in the movie to remember her by. And just in case you're wondering, 1974 Best Supporting Actress Bergman wouldn't have fared much better even if she'd umambiguously done the "Orient Express" chair-tie. It and her turn a quarter-century earlier as "Joan of Arc" are her only database scenes. That said, you've got to take into account that movie actresses of Oscar caliber-especially these days-really don't work as often or as hard as those who toil turning television's treadmill. After all, they don't have to. And who's more likely to rack up more scenes over the course of a long career-a Noel Neill (or a Teri Hatcher-there, satisfied NOW, youngsters?) grinding it out as Lois Lane week after week for maybe 26 to 39 episodes a year, or a Katharine Hepburn or Julia Roberts who can pick and choose her roles and perhaps appear only once or twice annually on the big screen-in a role that more likely than not won't incorporate bondage? However, I wouldn't be so quick to disparage an actress appearing in a repetitive role likely to produce a large number of scenes; it's a job that simply doesn't require Hepburn-quality talent. Wilson's Alex Cahill, despite her law degree and prosecutor's suit and high heels, was essentially a Lois Lane to Chuck Norris' Superman-or perhaps more accurately, a Velda to his Mike Hammer. Frankly, though, I think she filled out the role quite well, and earned her berth in the Hall of Fame. And save for Hatcher, the Lois Lanes weren't exactly A-list material either. Who would argue, however, that either Neill or Phyllis Coates is undeserving of her hallowed place in the annals of damseldom? Bottom line: It may well be that second-tier actresses find themselves stretching rope and biting cloth more often than those decked out in Halston or Prada on Oscar night, but it might be for reasons having to do with things other than artistic merit. And the converse is certainly not true; getting into one tieup after another doesn't have to permanently stigmatize an actress as dramatically challenged. Just look at Hatcher and where SHE is now! |
| Fettershackle |
| Saturday August 20 19:17:08 2005 Re: Sheree J. Wilson |
| moxx of balhoom wrote:
> I've never actually seen Walker but I was thinking of > importing a box set. > So is the series any good? Do you like scraps? The cops get challenged into multiple scraps every single episode. Never a simple, polite traffic stop. Always "Lets go right now then!" Like that? Get the box set. If not, talk to us over on Trades Page and we'll see about getting you the scenes for preview. ***** Which season would be a good one to buy ****** When you're looking in the Database, the episode #, or (4.1), etc indicates the season. Or a "(4.1) = season 4", (2.2) = season 2, (3.4) = season 3, etc etc That should help you decide which season to pick up. |
| Jay L |
| Saturday August 20 19:29:08 2005 Re: 5 Best gag scenes? |
| Peter Fonda wrote:
> I'm surprised no one's mentioned Ulee's Gold. > > I just did. Or is that what you were responding to? |
| Lindy Booth |
| Saturday August 20 19:34:17 2005 Re: Sheree J. Wilson |
| moxx of balhoom wrote:
> So is the series any good? Which season would be a good > one to buy (I know only the last sason is available at > present but hypotheticly speaking)? And what are the > scenes like? Is it a question of quantity over quality? "Walker Texas Ranger" is to Action/Adventure as "Baywatch" is to... whatever the hell Baywatch was trying to be. Let me start again. If you think NASCAR drivers are astronauts, have the attention span of a fried chicken, *&* think Fox News is "fair & balanced", Walker's your man. Every episode has a quota of fight scenes, & the "plot" is the excuse for them to happen... not that they need one. I remember times when Walker & one of his Ranger sidekicks enter a bar, talk to the bartender, one of the customers, or do whatever it was they needed to do for the required exposition to happen; then three or four muscle-bound stuntmen/customers pick a fight... for no reason whatsoever. Walker wins, of course. The bad guy is always a slick developer, crime boss, or smarmy lawyer. They often get caught in the opening sequence, then get released "on a technicality". Exactly what the Rangers did wrong or what they might do to prevent this from happening again is never discussed. The intent is for the audience to nod their heads & mutter "damn librel judges!" Not to worry, by the end of the episode the bad guy will be recaptured (after Walker beats the crap out of him, with the final swing-kicks being shown three times each), or, he (the bad guy) gets blowed up real good. As for poor Sheree... *who knows* if she can act? Meryl Streep would look like an idiot in that role. There are episodes where they get more than halfway through the plot, apparently realize they don't have a hostage available to provide "suspense" for the required final rescue scene, so ADA Cahill literally walks into the villain's lair to "follow up on a lead" or deliver a lecture on crime not paying. Guess what? She gets captured!! The only reason to watch Walker is for the goof value (& Sheree's DiD scenes). As to which season to buy... I suggest you consult the dBase, take notes on which episodes sound good & which season they're in, & SAVE YOUR MONEY!! :-) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.lovetied.com/dug/ |
| Saturday August 20 19:49:00 2005 Re: a few video/DVD possibles |
| The Kindly One wrote:
> JP wrote: > > **Killing Words- a definite full treatment I think. > The > > cover shows a woman in a chair, wrists taped to the > arms, > > & tape gagged. > > It's a woman all right, in this Spanish film with the > original title Palabras Encadenadas. Goya Toledo plays > Laura, your babe in question. She apparently spends a > chunk of the film bound and gagged -- but there maybe > some gruesome elements. > I haven't see any of these films, and I'm unable to > confirm bondage in the latter two titles. > Has anyone ever taken a chance on any of these?? I'm surprised you're still guessing here. I watched "Killing Words" about a year ago, prepared a DB entry, then found someone had beaten me to it. The DB entry is quite good and to the point. |
| Peter de K |
| Saturday August 20 20:00:20 2005 Re: a few video/DVD possibles |
| Peter de K wrote:
> The Kindly One wrote: > > > JP wrote: > > > > **Killing Words- a definite full treatment I > think. > > The > > > cover shows a woman in a chair, wrists taped to > the > > arms, > > > & tape gagged. > > > > It's a woman all right, in this Spanish film with > the > > original title Palabras Encadenadas. Goya Toledo > plays > > Laura, your babe in question. She apparently spends > a > > chunk of the film bound and gagged -- but there > maybe > > some gruesome elements. > > I haven't see any of these films, and I'm unable to > > > confirm bondage in the latter two titles. > > Has anyone ever taken a chance on any of these?? > > I'm surprised you're still guessing here. I watched > "Killing Words" about a year ago, prepared a DB > entry, then found someone had beaten me to it. The DB > entry is quite good and to the point. Oops! I assumed that, since the original poster was guessing, he hadn't found a database entry. I should have remembered the extraordinary number of people who ask for info without consulting the dabatase. I agree, the databse is clear and informative. Sigh. Oh, well, at least I know enough to decide whether it's worth renting / buying. |
| The Kindly One |
| Saturday August 20 20:28:08 2005 The "Sheree J. Wilson" effect |
| > That's the name I propose for the theory that the number of scenes an actress produces during her career is
inversely proportional to her talent. > And the converse is certainly not true; getting into one tieup after another doesn't have to permanently stigmatize an actress as dramatically challenged. Just look at Hatcher and where SHE is now! ---- Two other TV actresses who fortunately weren't "stigmatized" by the sizeable number of DiD scenes at the start of their careers are: Heather Locklear ("T.J. Hooker"), and for the last several years has been arguably Hollywood's most-requested actress for TV series work. Stefanie Powers ("Girl from UNCLE") to "Hart to Hart" + dozens of TV-movies and mini-series. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Saturday August 20 21:29:42 2005 ? |
| I've just come across a phenomenon I would like to ask others. I have just recently come into possession with one of my Holy Grails (as I can understand that phrase, ie- would do anything to obtain a recording or wish desperatley a certain actress would get herself bound and gagged)Mine was Jane Seymoure in Dr. Quinn MD woman. Now the problem, I find myself with no Holy Grails that I would have to have. I don't save or even record grey tape gags anymore, poor rope works barely get a notice, loose over the mouth gags I don't waste time on.
Sure there are the regrets, like the ones that got away, Stephanie Zimbalist, Helen Hunt, Jodie Foster, and a few others come to mind, but nothing so important that I would have to have. Are there any others out there that feel the same. |
| Saturday August 20 21:40:18 2005 Re: ? |
| I understand entirely. Just as with many other things in life, the "thrill of the chase" is gone. I'm not gonna get all philosophical about it, however it's very natural to find dissapointment even after you have something you've longed for for so long (check out the divorce rate these days - LOL).
BUT, I think the best thing to do is keep a positive outlook. At least you HAVE it, man. I've had a Grail for many years now, and never even come close to obtaining it. Chances are, I never will -- All the same, everybody loses. Yeah, man, that's how it is .. Life's a bitch and then you die. :) |
| X |
| Saturday August 20 22:50:57 2005 Re: Sheree J. Wilson |
| moxx of balhoom wrote:
> So is the series any good? Which season would be a good > one to buy (I know only the last sason is available at > present but hypotheticly speaking)? And what are the > scenes like? Is it a question of quantity over quality? Walker is basically a Bruce Lee movie with texans instead of asians. The 2 plots can be summed up as "kick the bad guys ass because they are bad guys" and "kick the bad guys ass because they stole our women". Some of the did scenes are excellent, but don't expect a great storyline or anything from the show. |
| AsbestosFilter |
| AsbestosFilter@gmail.com |
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps |
| Saturday August 20 23:06:55 2005 Re: ? |
| X wrote:
Yeah, man, that's how it is .. Life's a bitch and then you die. :) Or, as put by Brooklyn's greatest bondage master, Irving X. Schultz, "Life's a bitch, then you tie one up for fun and profit...and then, later on, you croak." |
| A seasoned professional |
| Saturday August 20 23:13:15 2005 Re: Sheree J. Wilson |
| AsbestosFilter wrote:
> moxx of balhoom wrote: > > So is the series any good? Which season would be a > good > > one to buy (I know only the last sason is available > at > > present but hypotheticly speaking)? And what are the > > > scenes like? Is it a question of quantity over > quality? > > Walker is basically a Bruce Lee movie with texans instead > of asians. The 2 plots can be summed up as "kick the > bad guys ass because they are bad guys" and > "kick the bad guys ass because they stole our > women". Yeah. I guess. I liked the snappy one-liners they used to give Chuck Norris just before he would attack...for example, before he would kick a crook in the mouth, he would say, "you have the right to remain silent!", you know, stuff like that. Also, how is it that everyone, crook and bad guy in Texas, seems well-versed in the martial arts? Like Billy Bob Washburn from Waco, a smarmy jewel theif, would really have time to learn the finer points of kung-fu. > Some of the did scenes are excellent, but don't expect a > great storyline or anything from the show. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps |
| Kurt Madden |
| Saturday August 20 23:34:53 2005 Re: Sheree J. Wilson |
| |> Ed wrote:
> > > I'm fairly new here & I wanted to start a > topic. > > > Is her only appeal the fact that she gets tied > > up quite often? > > I think her appeal comes from the fact that some people > find her appealing. If you don't, that's up to you. > > > > I think the writers had Alex tied up & gagged so > much > > because they got tired of her bad acting. > > You're not serious, of course. Damn right I'm serious. She stinks as far as actresses go. In another message, Teri Hatcher is mentioned. Now there is an actress that has had several good shows, either as the star or a guest. Several episodes of MacGyver & 2 scenes. Plus she has talent. Another actress mentioned was Noell Neil. I can't comment because I've never seen the old Superman TV show. As for Walker having a plot, I'd say a slim 1. Walker drives around, kicks some ass. Take another ride, kick more ass. Get a phone call, save useless Alex Cahill, kick more ass. Similar to Baywatch: run in slow motion, save a drowning person, more slo-mo running to save a drowning person. Same stuff every week. If Sheree J. Wilson was more attractive, she would have fit in perfectly on Baywatch. A no-talent on a plotless show. Wait, she WAS on a show like that… |
| Ed |
| Saturday August 20 23:35:11 2005 Re: a few video/DVD possibles |
| The Kindly One wrote:
> Oops! I assumed that, since the original poster was > guessing, he hadn't found a database entry. I should have > remembered the extraordinary number of people who ask for > info without consulting the dabatase. I agree, the > databse is clear and informative. > Sigh. > Oh, well, at least I know enough to decide whether it's > worth renting / buying. oh fer-cry-in-out-loud. I'm the original poster, and no I'm not one of the "extraordinary number of people who ask for info without consulting the dabatase". I didn't ask for any info anyway, I merely reported 4 movies I saw at the video store that looked promising. And no I didn't check the database beforehand before I posted. I mentioned them once I signed on so I wouldn't forget their titles. Man the things some folks dwell on...! |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
|
|