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Thursday August 18 02:26:02 2005
Walker question
I have a question about the recent (yesterday) Walker, Texas Ranger episode. Here is the Database entry:

<<<Title: Walker, Texas Ranger
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Christie Abbott

Description: Episode: "In Harm's Way", Part 1 (7.23)

Brief scene where Tracy Barnett (Abbott) is shown tied on a bed and cleave-gagged. Later Walker views a tape where she's shown from a different angle.

The beginning of Part 2 has a recap of Part 1 with the scenes>>>

I watched Part 1 that I'd recorded yesterday, and the only scene I saw of the young lady was a quick "blink and you'll miss it" scene of her tied & cleave gagged on a bed. That wasn't so jarring in itself, but in the recap that showed in the opening few minutes of Part 2, they showed a scene of her on the bed, a much clearer shot, with the bad guy hovering over her. A shot seen in a TV monitor was also shown. Neither of these 2 scenes were in the episode of Part 1 I saw. There was a part where Walker watches a TV monitor, but just as he starts to watch it the scene changed to another scene. It didn't look like anything had been edited out, as it was a dissolve to another scene. Did I manage to miss part of the girl's bondage scenes when I watched part 1, or were there edits made that (inexplicably) were shown in the flashbacks at the begining of Part 2? Any info appreciated, as I'm a bit confused!

The footage seen in Part 2 was actually nicer than what I saw in Part 1, a better close-up of the girl, and I'd sure like to know if it just wasn't there or if I need to re-watch that episode (heck maybe I turned away at just the wrong moment & missed the extended bed scene and the TV monitor scene!). Thanks all!
rex
Thursday August 18 06:34:23 2005
Could anyone identify that vidcap?
Thanks in advance.
http://dids.adbd.org/h-g1.jpg
Filou
http://dids.adbd.org
Thursday August 18 07:19:44 2005
Re: Walker question
rex wrote:

> I have a question about the recent (yesterday) Walker,
> Texas Ranger episode. Here is the Database entry:

As I recall, the original airing showed a lot more footage of Ms. Abbott, including at least one nice close-up, most of which was edited out for syndication showings.
LV
Thursday August 18 07:25:07 2005
up coming shows
Now that the new seasons is coming up what are the odds of a Scene of the lead or semi lead actress getting a full treatment in a:
Sitcom, whether a new sitcom or one of the veterans

Action Adventure, (ie)Charmed is an Action Adventure, although I would say this has only a 5% chance of having one of the lead ladies getting the full treatment

Drama, use your own deffinition of drama for this catagory
Thursday August 18 08:14:22 2005
Re: 5 Best gag scenes?
1. Jennifer O'Dell (The Lost World - Into the Fire)
2. Charisma Carpenter (Angel - Parting Gifts)
3. Ana Lucia Dominguez (Te Voy..)
4. Teri Hatcher (Tango & Cash)
5. Heather Thomas (Fall Guy)

cleave gags
Thursday August 18 08:47:07 2005
Behind the scenes pictures
I don't think I've ever seen any photos taken on a tv or movie set whilst a full treatment scene was being filmed. I think they'd be quite interesting, has anyone ever come across any of these?
Stephen H
Thursday August 18 09:39:17 2005
Re: Could anyone identify that vidcap?
Filou wrote:

> Thanks in advance.

Looks veddy British to me.
John Quincannon
Thursday August 18 12:24:18 2005
Re: Behind the scenes pictures
Stephen H wrote:

I don't think I've ever seen any photos taken on a tv or
movie set whilst a full treatment scene was being filmed.
I think they'd be quite interesting, has anyone ever come
across any of these?

In the movie 'Say Yes' (coming up on next week's update, I think), they include the filming of the bondage scene in the DVD's extra features - quite interesting.

Major John
Thursday August 18 12:37:27 2005
Re: Could anyone identify that vidcap?
Filou wrote:

> Thanks in advance.

isnt it that German show set in an all female prison? First shown on RTL...sorry been ages since I had access to german tv...
steve a
Thursday August 18 13:29:00 2005
Mystery Men & the missing scene
Has anyone seen the Mystery Men dvd?

I was wondering if the deleted scene with Claire Forlani shows up anywhere on it, I remember at the time reading lots about her being bound & gagged in the movie but then it never happened, another one robbed from us!
Thursday August 18 17:12:45 2005
Re: Behind the scenes pictures
Stephen H wrote:

> I don't think I've ever seen any photos taken on a tv or
> movie set whilst a full treatment scene was being filmed.
> I think they'd be quite interesting, has anyone ever come
> across any of these?

A few years ago, one of the regular contributirs to this board posted behind-the-scenes pictures of a Canadian television program. It showed the heroine being bound and gagged by the crew members, and smiling jovially before and while the gag was placed over her mouth. She was also shown chatting amicably with the crew, the people who were about to gag her, and was also shown bound and gagged between takes.
Hadji
Thursday August 18 17:39:53 2005
Re: Behind the scenes pictures
Stephen H wrote:

> I don't think I've ever seen any photos taken on a tv or
> movie set whilst a full treatment scene was being filmed.
> I think they'd be quite interesting, has anyone ever come
> across any of these?

I recall seeing behind-the-scenes pictures from "This Gun For Hire", starring Veronica Lake, and "The Collector", starring Samantha Eggar, two acclaimed movies in which the two actresses were bound and gagged. The picture of Veronica Lake showed her bound and gagged, with the crew fussing over her, getting her ready for her scene.
The picture of Samantha Eggar showed her standing, relaxing between takes, wrapped in a red blanket, her hands free, but her mouth still gagged. This occurred during the filiming of the scene in which she is bound and gagged in a bathtub.
Hadji
Thursday August 18 17:44:47 2005
Re: ZOEY 101
el tinko wrote:

>
>
> I
> think the priceless handgag scenes have the
> "handgagee" still trying to speak through the makeshift gag.

Gags Galore wrote:
Perhaps I should rephrase. It's not her reaction that's priceless, it's her facial expression. I love the way she has a geniune look of surprise on her face when the hand reaches her mouth, and the submissive way that she shrugs it off as if there is nothing she can do about it.

Gags Galore
Thursday August 18 17:47:06 2005
Re: Behind the scenes pictures
Hadji wrote:

> Stephen H wrote:
>
> > I don't think I've ever seen any photos taken on a
> tv or
> > movie set whilst a full treatment scene was being
> filmed.
> > I think they'd be quite interesting, has anyone ever
> come
> > across any of these?
>
Somehwere is a picture of Bridget Bardoe from what-ever-that-movie-was where she's being shot by a firing squad (Viva something?)...anyway...she's sitting in a chair with her feet still tied and a blindfold on, but as a joke she's holding a book up like she's reading it.
Thursday August 18 18:01:35 2005
Re: Could anyone identify that vidcap?
steve a wrote:

> isnt it that German show set in an all female prison?
> First shown on RTL...sorry been ages since I had access
> to german tv...

You mean "Hinter Gittern", don't you? That goes with the file name. Let me google it...

Filou
Thursday August 18 18:42:14 2005
Re: Behind the scenes pictures
> Hadji wrote:
>
> > Stephen H wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think I've ever seen any photos taken
> on a
> > tv or
> > > movie set whilst a full treatment scene was
> being
> > filmed.
> > > I think they'd be quite interesting, has anyone
> ever
> > come
> > > across any of these?
> >
On one of "The Transporter" features from the DVD, you can see Asian actress Shu Qi standing around, unbound, with tape over her mouth while the director gives some advice on how the scene should be done.

Also, that movie "The Wild Card" (I think) with Hillary Tuck has some behind the scenes stuff of her tied and gagged while receiving some acting tips. Really good stuff.
Goten
Thursday August 18 19:10:51 2005
Re: Behind the scenes pictures
Stephen H wrote:

> I don't think I've ever seen any photos taken on a tv or
> movie set whilst a full treatment scene was being filmed.
> I think they'd be quite interesting, has anyone ever come
> across any of these?

Yes. There was a behind-the-scenes promo on a local newscast for a CBS soap opera (Y&R, I think), where they we're taping a scene wiht the damsel tied to a bed and cleave-gagged. Between takes, the leading man teased her, and she said pretty clearly through her gag, "get away from me, you pervert". (She was laughing.) She then easily reached and pulled down her gag, even though she was still tied.
Gag Fan
Thursday August 18 19:11:37 2005
Re: Behind the scenes pictures
Hadji wrote:

> A few years ago, one of the regular contributirs to this
> board posted behind-the-scenes pictures of a Canadian
> television program. It showed the heroine being bound and
> gagged by the crew members, and smiling jovially before
> and while the gag was placed over her mouth. She was also
> shown chatting amicably with the crew, the people who
> were about to gag her, and was also shown bound and
> gagged between takes.


Record number: 8165

Title: The Making of Les Dangereux
Medium: TV Movie
Actress: Véronique Cloutier

Description: This one-hour TV special depicts the making of the Quebec film 'Les Dangereux' which is about the kidnapping of a cute blonde singer (Véronique Cloutier). She's shown tied up with hands duct-taped in front and ropes around he body and legs. She's also shown OTM gagged. In one cute scene, the prop guy behind her brings the cloth around her head to gag her. When she sees it, she puckers her lips just before being gagged.
Jay L
Thursday August 18 19:30:58 2005
Re: Mystery Men & the missing scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:


> I remember at the time reading
> lots about her being bound & gagged in the movie but
> then it never happened, another one robbed from us!

Damn her!

Zorak
Thursday August 18 19:57:09 2005
5 best gag scenes ever
In no particular order:

1. Single White Female (Bridget Fonda):
In terms of bondage quality combined with damsel hottness, this is tough to beat. I'm a tapegag lover, and this one is my favorite. There have been so many "botched" tapegags in film and TV, but thankfully this one was nearly perfect. The only way this scene could have been better would have been if it was silver duct tape, and she was tied up in the nightgown she was wearing in the previous scene. (Damn you, Jennifer Jason Leigh, for letting her put her clothes on first!)

2. Kristin Davis (A Deadly Vision)
Davis is one of the hottest women I've ever seen, and the duct tape bondage is very well done here. This would have been a MAGNIFICENT scene, and could have given SWF a run for it's money, if only the whole thing wasn't so damn dark.

3. Natural Born Killers (Corinna Lazlo)
I'm not sure why I love this scene so much, as it's very short and you only get a few brief looks at the damsel. I think it's the look in her eyes, the position she's tied in, and the overall atmosphere of the scene. Plus, it was such a shock the first time I saw it, which for some reason, carries a certain weight.

4. Sleeper (Diane Keaton):
Older movie, but I must say that DK was smokin' in this movie. The cleave gag was very tight, and I loved her struggling and facial expressions as she bit down on it. Although the scene was meant to be humorous, she really gave it her all to make us believe she didn't like being tied up.

5. Terry Farrell (Hellraiser 3):
If only this scene were longer with more closeups, it would really be something special. Although it's still great. Terry Farrell is unbelievably hot, and how often do we get to see a hot actress in serious bondage equipment such as that mask? Even if that's not your cup of tea......damn!
McBain
Thursday August 18 19:57:19 2005
Behind the scenes pictures
> photos taken on a tv or movie set whilst a full treatment scene was being filmed.
----
One of those Entertainment Tonight-type shows ran a preview of "The Scarlet Letter" (1995), which included Demi Moore "dodging" her co-star while B&g'd during between-takes horseplay.

In the pre-Internet era, that was one of the few occasions that we knew there'd almost certainly be a full-treatment scene in an upcoming movie.
Kinky-napper
Thursday August 18 20:56:04 2005
Re: Mystery Men & the missing scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Has anyone seen the Mystery Men dvd?
>
> I was wondering if the deleted scene with Claire Forlani
> shows up anywhere on it, I remember at the time reading
> lots about her being bound & gagged in the movie but
> then it never happened, another one robbed from us!

I own the DVD and have watched it many times. The bonus material is minimal, and the deleted scenes mainly show character development (each hero at their job, for example). I don't know if there is more than one version of the DVD (I haven't seen any others) but that's the story on mine.
The Kindly One
Thursday August 18 21:07:19 2005
Re: Behind the scenes pictures
Kinky-napper wrote:

> > photos taken on a tv or movie set whilst a full
> treatment scene was being filmed.
> ----
> One of those Entertainment Tonight-type shows ran a
> preview of "The Scarlet Letter" (1995), which
> included Demi Moore "dodging" her co-star while
> B&g'd during between-takes horseplay.

I saw that broadcast as well, & it *was* "Entertainment Tonight". This was before "ET" hired a new producer who turned it into the information-free sensationalized hype-fest it is today. Anyhoo... there was a sequence where the camera was on Demi when she was not on camera, but was still gagged. (The set was apparently waiting for a lighting change or something similar.) She absently popped the gag out of her mouth, without using her hands, then popped it back in. The gag appeared to be rigged with an elastic band or some other hidden means of simulating an effective cleave-gag!. The gag *looked* reasonably tight, it was a purpose-made prop, & they seem to have looked for & found an effective compromise between realism & humane treatment of the talent. Cool!! :-)
http://brianspage.com/ezine/issue-2.3/images/demi_moore.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/
Thursday August 18 21:27:07 2005
Re: Walker question
LV wrote:

> rex wrote:
>
> > I have a question about the recent (yesterday)
> Walker,
> > Texas Ranger episode. Here is the Database entry:
>
> As I recall, the original airing showed a lot more
> footage of Ms. Abbott, including at least one nice
> close-up, most of which was edited out for syndication
> showings.

If I remember right, it was even for one of the network
repeats. Speculation was that the scene got heat from
the censors.

It was a long ways back, nothing shows in the archives
about it, so I can't say for sure.

Brian R
Thursday August 18 21:30:24 2005
Re: Behind the scenes pictures
Hadji wrote:


> The picture of Samantha Eggar showed her standing,
> relaxing between takes, wrapped in a red blanket, her
> hands free, but her mouth still gagged.


I think the DVD of The Transporter had a similar scene
in the extras.

Brian R
Thursday August 18 22:49:03 2005
Re: 5 Best gag scenes?
Iwa wrote:

> If you were going to Blackbuster, what 5 DVD would you
> rent for the best gag scene?
>

Why can't I pass up these "best of all time" threads?

My list, in no particular order:

Annabella Sciorra - Whispers In TheDark
Jennifer Tilley - Bound
Cameron Diaz - A Life Less Ordinary
Mädchen Amick - Hangman
Natasha Henstrege - Caracara

Knottz
Thursday August 18 23:04:30 2005
Site Update
I've updated Bondagerotica with the Firsts in Bondage in Mainstream Scenes article that grew out of a discussion on this page. I've added some caps and updated the text. Enjoy!
Pat Powers
http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/firsts/firsts.html

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